Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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Watching Spanish flu documentary. Interview with a woman who survived it. First thing out of her mouth was about how everything was closed.

Also double edged sword of closing schools is it protects older relatives more than the kids. But according to the guy in JRE podcast is that 40% of nurses have school age kids. Meaning they gotta find someone to watch them.

Good luck kiwis. Preppers were right all along the federal government is useless
 
If I had any doubt about this being a genuine emergency, it is all gone. Cancelling professional sports events, Disney closing and some public schools starting to wake up and close? Shit's real. Here in America always follow the money. Schools aren't open out of concern that poor kids won't get food, they couldn't care less about that. They want the money the government pays out for every kid in attendance each day. Disney and sports? Money. If businesses are willing to lose cash then it's worse than we imagine.
 
Working in a hospital, and my whole department is what they call "essential" so dealing with this crap is my life for who knows how long. The worst part isn't worrying about catching a disease, it's dealing with the ever changing and escalating needs the system has for handling a possible worst case scenario. And all this on top of our regular busy workload has me super stressed.
 
Went to discount grocery store this morning, and Costco around noon Pacific.

Discount grocery store normal, saw a couple people buying water, but still a good amount available. Plenty of ass-wipe.

Costco was rather busy, but had no problem finding a parking spot, getting everything I wanted (except a cherry pie), and getting out in less than 30 minutes. Saw people buying water and asswipe, among other things, but didn't see any purchases in panic amounts. Shelves overall a little depleted, but not bad. Didn't check out the water and asswipe. Don't buy them at Costco, anyway. Had a whole pallet of gloves on the sales floor, but it looked like nobody had purchased any. Did see some people buying three-packs Clorox bleach.

See MLB has cancelled the remaining spring training games and pushed start of season back two weeks. Oh, well. Don't care about the NBA or NHL, just MLB. Guess Pornhub will be a little busier.

Looking at the latest WuFlu scoreboard, worldwide up to 127,863 cases. Don't believe China's numbers at all. Subtract China's claimed nearly 81,000 cases and we get 46, 863. Of that number, 30,606 come from just three countries (Italy, Iran, South Korea). Believe Iran's numbers are higher than reported. That leaves 16, 247 for the rest of the world, six billion of us.

Watched President Trump's speech yesterday on YouTube. Have listened to a number of his speeches. The President normally comes across as confident, if not brash. But the tone of last evening's speech was businesslike and somewhat subdued. President Trump also looked tired, not his usual self, if you will.

He obviously knows something, probably a great deal, more than we do about this virus, but for some reason isn't sharing it. One reason may be to protect sources of intelligence. Another reason may well be to stave off panic.

But what I hear and what I am seeing these days don't match. Have never seen such a large number of disease-related closures, postponements, etc, in seven decades of life. These closures and postponements remind me of what must have happened during the Spanish Flu. Don't remember such a scale of closures/postponements, etc. during the swine flu. Not even sure there were this many closures/postponements during polio epidemics. And you don't see such closures/postponements in regard to the "regular" flu.

We are told the average person's chance of catching the virus is low, and most who come down with the virus recover. Yet, in my opinion the actions taken seem to fit a very virulent virus with a very high mortality rate. So far in the USA there have been just forty deaths, thirty of them in one state.

Something much more is going on here, something we aren't being told, in my opinion. Because right now the WuFlu numbers I see don't approach the hospitalizations/fatalities for the "regular" flu.

Believe the American people can handle the truth. Always have in the past. Understand the natural tendency of those in office, of any party, is to play down what's happening. Then we get a nasty surprise when we learn the actual magnitude of the problem.

So pay attention to what's being said, but pay more attention to what isn't being said.
So, is it time to panic?
 
The first name I recognise, that is the mouthwash right?
Yes. I also just thought when I was out that quaternary sanitizer (Quat) as used in restaurants might be good too, it doesn't stain or bleach cloth and is as good a disinfectant as bleach when properly diluted. You can't add it to your drinking water, but most people aren't gonna need to go that far.

While we were at the docs today, I chatted with an aquaintance who works there. Apparently our county has a bunch of cases, one confirmed and six more suspected in the main hospital and eight more suspected at another hospital in the county.

ETA: We stopped at the store on the way home. Cops were there breaking up some kind of shouting match. Everyone's nuts today.
 
All this ass-wipe talk makes me wonder if people are also hoarding cat litter.

Hmmmm .....
Can confirm, tried to pick up some last minute stuff today before the panic settled in here and there's barely any pet goods. No normal cat litter, not even hamster litter. (PSA hamster litter is great for cats and lasts longer please try it)
It's fucking annoying. Half these people here let their cats roam outside, the fuck you need that much cat litter for? Can you even expect an outdoor cat to stay inside for months?
 
So if the rumor of NYC being completely locked down tonight is true, I'm going to go ahead and update the status.
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Don't assume people will do the "right" thing. The child's mother was wearing a face mask, after all, but had no qualms whatsoever about exposing a pregnant woman, a dozen special-needs kids and an occupational therapist to her ambulating Petri dish.

Y'know what's funny. There are at least 500k ILI cases a year in the US directly attributable to well-child visits.

Ped offices set up these play places and your kid's gonna get every fucking pathogen imaginable engaging in that.
 
all but the dumbest citizens know about germ theory.
and yet you're on the internet shilling against testing for coronavirus

It's all good though. This is the kind of response that will stop or at least mitigate a swine flu like scenario.
ah yes, swine flu, the one where improper treatment and american medical industry incompetence killed more people than the virus itself in america.
 
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