Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

eternal dog mongler · Mar 12, 2020

Radical Cadre said:
That's why the EAS hasn't been used. That's why the president is trying to temper everything he says about this, and that is why the government is taking its time with things. They're going to have to break a few eggs to cook this omelet because otherwise they are lighting a match after the pilot light has been out all evening.

We popped off an EAS today.

The fun thing is that our public health providers are so decentralized. You may or may not have people taking this seriously depending on where you live.

Dom Cruise · Mar 12, 2020

Radical Cadre said:
You can see it hinted at with many of the replies here concerning how Donald Trump and his government have responded to this. But so far I haven't really seen anyone call a spade a spade.

If anyone in the government comes out and says things plainly and matter of fact, the fragile American public simply won't be able to handle it. They'll completely lose their shit, start smearing it all over the walls, and a few will remember that video of the homeless guy from last week and think that maybe they should be eating it.

The US government is in a bind because a large enough portion of their population are so coddled and spoiled that they will tear the entire place apart if they were told they need to change their lifestyle, buckle down, and get ready for some hard times.

That's why the EAS hasn't been used. That's why the president is trying to temper everything he says about this, and that is why the government is taking its time with things. They're going to have to break a few eggs to cook this omelet because otherwise they are lighting a match after the pilot light has been out all evening.

To make matters worse Americans have become especially more deranged over the last several years.

We are the proverbial powder keg just waiting for a match to ignite it.

Smug Cat · Mar 12, 2020

All right, real question.

If someone's in a "hot" zone, one of the "in two weeks we're gonna be Italy" spots and they're following the recommendations in this thread and elsewhere to stay home, how long would they need to do so to appreciably improve their situation? Would staying home for a week right now make a significant difference? Two weeks? A month? Do we have any idea how much time would be needed or when the optimal time would be?

UntimelyDhelmise · Mar 12, 2020

I've been pretty resilient to all the fear and anxiety up to now and instead have kept a cool but cautious head over this debacle, but with the last 24 hours, that resilience is starting to break down my fellow Kiwis...

Green Man · Mar 12, 2020

If the National Guard does get mobilized, and I imagine that it will in certain states, you only need to look back to Katrina to see how black communities will react to their entry. Even white people start getting fidgety when they see National Guard trucks roll up. Last time we had bad floods where I live, I overheard people saying that they were MORE afraid because the National Guard showed up. Like it's some kind of paramilitary there to enforce martial law and kick doors in. You'd think people would be happy to see the National Guard guys giving out bottles of water, rations and setting up cots for the people made homeless overnight, but people react very poorly because it's like seeing the Guard affirms that the situation has truly gone to shit. In some neighborhoods, it might look like fuckin' Ferguson, MO in 2014.

JosephStalin · Mar 12, 2020

No Ma'ams Land said:
If 9/11 taught us anything, it's that psychological warfare against the American public is so god-damn effective that it'll drive us all mad for entire election cycles.

And it can cause the USA to take action of some sort against the perceived bad guys.

Muttnik · Mar 12, 2020

The only difference between this and 9/11 is that we were all together after it happened. For a brief period in America, everyone regardless of status and beliefs and races and political affiliations came together as brothers and looked out for each other. It was a moment of earnest vulnerability and intimacy that had not been seen in a long time.

And now here we are screeching no matter what Orange Man does and bleating about muh racism while stealing all the goddamn TP. What a world.

JosephStalin · Mar 12, 2020

UntimelyDhelmise said:
I've been pretty resilient to all the fear and anxiety up to now and instead have kept a cool but cautious head over this debacle, but with the last 24 hours, that resilience is starting to break down my fellow Kiwis...

Do not take counsel of your fears. I don't. I just do the best I can and take care of myself.

You can't win the war all by yourself. But you can win your little piece of it.

Feel like the back is against the wall? Know what that means? Nobody can get to you from the back now. Just keep on keeping on. Never quit. Never give up.

Male Idiot · Mar 12, 2020

Thailand wanted some authentic ghetto culture but without having to worry about human rights and all that shieeeet.

Feline Supremacist · Mar 12, 2020

Iuz said:
How long until we discover that this is the CCPs attempt at developing FEV?

I don't have a Plasma Rifle or a dog to fetch things from locked containers. Life sucks.

mr.moon1488 · Mar 12, 2020

Link: https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1238233411808120833

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Drones being used to patrol in Italy

Blop · Mar 12, 2020

Alto said:
The only difference between this and 9/11 is that we were all together after it happened. For a brief period in America, everyone regardless of status and beliefs and races and political affiliations came together as brothers and looked out for each other. It was a moment of earnest vulnerability and intimacy that had not been seen in a long time.

And now here we are screeching no matter what Orange Man does and bleating about muh racism while stealing all the goddamn TP. What a world.

My coworker and I were talking about this today and said the same thing. This situation is surreal like nothing since 9/11, but 9/11 brought (most of) us together, while coronavirus just seems to be fanning the flames. *sigh*

Shield Breaker · Mar 12, 2020

Feline Supremacist said:
I don't have a Plasma Rifle or a dog to fetch things from locked containers. Life sucks.

I'm starting to doubt your commitment to the DERF cause.

jjabramsisdumb · Mar 12, 2020

GrimProphet said:
If the National Guard does get mobilized, and I imagine that it will in certain states, you only need to look back to Katrina to see how black communities will react to their entry. Even white people start getting fidgety when they see National Guard trucks roll up. Last time we had bad floods where I live, I overheard people saying that they were MORE afraid because the National Guard showed up. Like it's some kind of paramilitary there to enforce martial law and kick doors in. You'd think people would be happy to see the National Guard guys giving out bottles of water, rations and setting up cots for the people made homeless overnight, but people react very poorly because it's like seeing the Guard affirms that the situation has truly gone to shit. In some neighborhoods, it might look like fuckin' Ferguson, MO in 2014.

Only Roof Koreans can be trusted by all in these situations.

interalia · Mar 12, 2020

Smug Cat said:
All right, real question.

If someone's in a "hot" zone, one of the "in two weeks we're gonna be Italy" spots and they're following the recommendations in this thread and elsewhere to stay home, how long would they need to do so to appreciably improve their situation? Would staying home for a week right now make a significant difference? Two weeks? A month? Do we have any idea how much time would be needed or when the optimal time would be?

People treat it like an absolute and that's a mistake, imo. It should be possible to just minimize your activity levels outside your house and only go on necessary trips without committing to full lockdown. Barring any specifics of your area that seems like the most reasonable choice.

Feline Supremacist · Mar 12, 2020

Shield Breaker said:
I'm starting to doubt your commitment to the DERF cause.

I guess I could settle for a mole rat or Yao Guai but they don't fetch so good.

Non-Expert! · Mar 12, 2020

Kari Kamiya said:
Alright, I'm gonna get controversially biblical/apocryphal here, this thought's been bugging me all day when I realized something, so I just wanted to gather my thoughts someplace.

Quick background, I'm getting this from a book that was published by a known general authority of the LDS church, but this was kind of a problem because he did not get permission to publish this. At the time, he was a member of the First Counsel of the Seventy, which in term of authority is lower than the Twelve Apostles who's lower than the First Presidency and the Prophet, but the general authority as a whole are still considered prophets and revelators. The publisher was Bruce R. McConkie, who's beloved by members for his wisdom, his poetry (one of which became a hymn, "I Believe in Christ",) and has lived on in memory for his books. He was never prophet, and he died as a member of the Twelve Apostles from cancer in 1985, but some older members still look up to him as someone who was as close to God as possible. Well, the book he published in 1958 was called "Mormon Doctrine" that has been publicly circulated until it went out of print ten years ago, but it got a revised edition back in 1966 to be more "accurate" than just from one man's own testimony and learnings. There was a third edition, but I have the second.

I basically swiped this book from my grandmother's house years ago (she later found out but was okay with it) to keep in my room because of all the church's teachings and scriptures, I've always been the most fascinated about the Sign of the Times, which has been given throughout Jesus' ministry whenever he brought up his Second Coming, so even before the Book of Revelation it was talked about. I like to read up on it since it's both a morbid curiosity and a kind of anxious impatience wondering when this is all going to end--not in a doomsday sense, mind you.

Do note that even the prophet of the time, David O. McKay, was not happy with McConkie when it was first published, but he and the general authority more-or-less gave it their blessing with the second edition, it's just never been considered an endorsement. But the global pandemic got me thinking if something like this was ever brought up, so I opened the book to check, keeping in mind the previous predictions that have been posted pages ago:
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("Men's hearts shall fail them" in the verse was "Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken." This is referring to the Signs of the Times, but in being blind to what's happening in the heavens.)

By the way, in terms of "new and unheard of diseases", I checked to see when Ebola was first discovered: 1976. But it didn't cover the land and become threatening, not like how Corona-chan has. But the coronavirus isn't a new and unheard of disease, the WuFlu just so happens to be a different strain doing really weird things like causing heart failure, which coronaviruses aren't known to do.

Just what is going to be the "last plague", the Big One that's going to wipe out a significant part of the population? What could be considered worse than a highly-infectious respiratory disease that's mainly hurting/killing the elderly and the really sick?

It's... curious.

The worst plague?

Nothing that takes out the elderly and sick.

It would be one that takes out people under the age of 20, with strong immune systems, and comes in waves. Something that acts on strong immune systems, turns the immune system against the host, has a long incubation period and is contagious during said period. It would mutate annually like the influenza virus.

You take out an entire generation of young people, we are doomed to extinction.

I shouldn't be posting this shit, lest somebody wants to engineer a perfect bloodless killing machine.

Anyway, the wu-flu is a nuisance that is going to cost a lot of money, waste a lot of time, and kill a lot of people but it is not end-times, for those who believe in such a thing.

DewsLit · Mar 12, 2020

DewsLit said:
THL muutti linjaa: Epidemia-alueista turha enää puhua, koronaviruksen voi saada mistä tahansa Suomessa

THL puhuu jo epidemian tulevasta etenemisestä Suomessa ja luopuu termin epidemia-alue käyttämisestä.

www.kauppalehti.fi

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That didn't take long.

Yesterday when it became obvious to most people in Finland that THL (Department of Health and Welfare) and our politicians are incapable of assessing the severity of the situation or making hard decisions that should've been done weeks ago, and that there's no containing this shit anymore, they started panic buying like crazy.

Tuna, beans, bread, potatoes, meat, cleaning products and, you guessed it, TP + bunch of other stuff flew off the shelves.