Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Shaved Kiwis]

Azar completely fucked this up. That's why you don't promote pharma execs to HHS.

I definitely feel something trickling down, but it sure smells funny.

 

[Champion The Wonder Horse]

Just came back from a Sainsbury's in south britbong - no bog roll or multivitamins, all the cheap hand soaps are gone, plenty of posh wanker soaps left though. I heard the phrase "self-quarantine" about three or so times in hushed murmurs. A surprising number of old people, and the pharmacy lass behind the counter looked pretty frazzled. Oh, and all the mega boxes of pet food are out too.

It'll be interesting to see how we handle this as it unfolds.

I hit Sainsburys yesterday and just been in Tesco, no bumwad to be had. Pasta, flour and rice have similarly been stripped clean however the instant noodles at 40p a brick for north of 400 calories were untouched.

Fresh fruit and veg looked like a horde of locusts had descended, and tinned veg is being rationed. Thankfully, as an excessively online individual I went and stocked up on dry goods 3 weeks ago.

 

[NoSpiceLife]

I'm going food shopping today, my normal day,...
...Then we WILL be in a world of shit.

I made the mistake of living week to week too, no toilet paper, tissues, paper towel for me. The insanity isn't stopping, I just read that in the supermarkets here, any toilet paper they get in, is gone 15 minutes after the shop opens!

How to make the virus spread? Let everyone jostle it out with 50 other people, as they push and shove, to be the first person to get to the toilet paper aisle.

 

[Fugax]

The fact that we all don't have bidets in 2020 is the real sign of the apocalypse. Those things are great.

 

[Shield Breaker]

Has anyone seen this retardedness yet?

Are you referring to your posting habits?

 

[Borax Bozo]

More word from my Australian source:
Parts of the government seem to be gearing up to move to work-from-home telepresence arrangements en masse.
This being the bureaucracy, they are starting with important things such as ... making the staff self-assess how dangerous their chairs at home are and whether they have correct posture.

 

[Shaved Kiwis]

I made the mistake of living week to week too, no toilet paper, tissues, paper towel for me. The insanity isn't stopping, I just read that in the supermarkets here, any toilet paper they get in, is gone 15 minutes after the shop opens!

How to make the virus spread? Let everyone jostle it out with 50 other people, as they push and shove, to be the first person to get to the toilet paper aisle.

And I made the mistake of buying Scotts paper towels. What the goddamned shit is this!? I thought it was turlet paper. When the fuck did they start making paper towels? I'm not even having a giggle here. This actually happened to me today.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Can't stop fucking laughing, rapidfire spanish kek news! My fucking sides they hurt!

First of, The prez came up then with a thousand words just told us that tomorrow congress will declare which list of measures it will make available for the autonomies to take at their own leisure. Fucking kek. This isn't even telling us they're declaring emergency, he's told us he's gonna tell us emergency will be declared by someone at some point. Kekafuckingmundo.

Meanwhile valencia and catalonia bitching they have too many people from madrid in their coast. Meanwhile most of them are actually in the south btw, catalonians are just bitches. They've interviewed people from madrid and they've all pretty much said "we heard they were closing so we decided to get out before they closed", madrid is almost empty btw they've fucking migrated en masse. Zero fucks!

And on the meantime the private sector is freaking the fuck out because it's finnaly gonna get told to fucking do something. Maybe. If congress makes it available to the autonomies and they decide to apply it, eventually. I guess I should start with the prologue.

So quick explanation about spanish politics. Due to our solid healthcare and education systems, for those sectors it's been known private just means shit. I'm not kidding here, for younger schools not so much (there it's mostly private=religious or private=snob who wants to make contacts instead of actually learning) but when it comes to universities, everyone knows if you go to a private campus its because you didn't have enough marks for the public ones, they're glorified diploma mills, which explains while almost every single politician of the major parties has a private diploma... yeah they're not for the sharpest amongst us. Fuck I'm mentally challenged and even I past the test, they are just fucking idiots each and every single one of them.

Anyway point is healthcare is similar. Private healthcare over here is fed by big businesses' giving insurance to employees so they go there because they do things quicker, due to not having any patients, but most of them are shit. You don't go to private healthcare if you want, you go if your boss wants. They don't even have installations for the weirder stuff except on very minor exceptions, most of them are there just to churn out work accidents like crazy.

So health ministry drafted a law, which is one of the laws which will be proposed tomorrow for congress to possibly aprove for some regions to decide if they chose to implement it. This law would force the private healthcare to help in the effort by giving material, keep farmaceuticals from selling material to them (material related to coronachan) and even in case of emergency temporarily take their installations. All would be given back and paid for at market value after the emergency. Note that the personnel wouldn't be besieged, only the material. Well the law got leaked (like everything else in this country) and now we got the private sector claiming it is unfair discrimination that they be asked to aid in healthcare and as private entities they should get paid leave instead of that. Note that the personnel is free to do so, only their installations need to stay open, they misunderstood the law and proceeded to make a stink at their implication than they be asked to work. And of course they're also claiming they get an undeserved bad wrep and are an oh-so-necessary part of our healthcare. Fucking kek. Usureros each and every one of the little bastards.

Long story short, something might be done, sometime, by someone, in the near future, if it can be decided, eventually, probably. My fucking sides.

 

[Atatata]

Would it be too doomer of me to ask, in the situation that hospitalization isn't an option, about ways to treat pneumonia, or at least alleviate some of the symptoms/lasting damage?

If worst happens, its not unrealistic to assume that hospitals won't be the easiest way to get treatment, might as well ask now lol.

...I miss when it was just shitposting about China.

 

[Not Really Here]

Without wanting to sound paranoid, it may be worth someone making a thread on how to survive if infected in a worst case scenario without medical care/minimal supplies, etc.

Already exists-

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/general-prepper-sperging-thread.66663/

 

[AtomicAgeBoy]

Some Finnish news

KYS: Kaikkia koronavirusepäilyjä ei enää testata

KYS tiedotti, että hengitystieoireisten, mutta hyväkuntoisten henkilöiden, ei tule enää soittaa terveydenhuollon yksiköihin tai Päivystysapuun, vaikka epäilisikin koronavirustartuntaa.

www.is.fi

Archive

Kuopio University Hospital (KYS) informed that all coronavirus suspects are no longer tested.

According to KYS, samples will be taken in the future from:

• Hospital emergency patients with respiratory infections requiring hospitalization and suspected pneumonia whose cause is unknown.
• A health and social care worker with symptoms of acute respiratory infection. If the symptom is plain rhinitis, no sample is taken but the worker is instructed to remain at home until the worker has been asymptomatic for 24 hours.
• Specialized patient and long-term care client with symptoms of acute respiratory infection.
• Over 65 years of age and / or basic illnesses with symptoms of respiratory infection.
• In addition, if resources permit, samples may be taken from teachers and other educational staff with symptoms of acute respiratory infection if the person has been abroad for 14 days before the onset of the symptoms or if he or she has been in close contact with a corona infected person 14 days before the onset.

 

[Rapeseed Oil Diffuser]

Would it be too doomer of me to ask, in the situation that hospitalization isn't an option, about ways to treat pneumonia, or at least alleviate some of the symptoms/lasting damage?

If worst happens, its not unrealistic to assume that hospitals won't be the easiest way to get treatment, might as well ask now lol.

...I miss when it was just shitposting about China.

Amoxicillin (search for lab grade fish tank pills..) at the correct dosages and timeline: https://www.drugs.com/dosage/amoxicillin.html

Combine that with breathing exercises: https://www.lung.org/lung-health-and-diseases/protecting-your-lungs/breathing-exercises.html

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

Corona-Chan has touched down in Alabama.

 

[Nonconsentual Pronouns]

Would it be too doomer of me to ask, in the situation that hospitalization isn't an option, about ways to treat pneumonia, or at least alleviate some of the symptoms/lasting damage?

If worst happens, its not unrealistic to assume that hospitals won't be the easiest way to get treatment, might as well ask now lol.

...I miss when it was just shitposting about China.

This is where I have a lot of unfortunate experience.

Two things that can and should be helped are inflammation and sputum (mucus in the respiratory tract). Take anti-inflammatory drugs in maximum safe long-term dosage. Be careful with this. Don't take antihistamines if your lungs are full of mucus or you will dry it out and not be able to cough it up. Keep your fluids up (as you should be doing anyway), drink hot non-caff drinks, keep your chest warm, use albuterol inhalers if you have access to them, cooperate with gravity by not sitting up straight, plug your tub and run the water as hot as it goes with the door shut to breathe in the steam, soak in the bath when it's cooled off enough, and most importantly... DEEP COUGH.

Throat coughing from that little divet where your neck meets your clavicle accomplishes nothing but clearing your throat. Take deeeeep breaths and use your diaphragm (belly area) to cough from your lungs properly. Deep coughing is the only way to voluntarily expel the excess amounts of sputum that cause you to basically drown from the inside. Depending on how bad off you are, you need to be coughing up wads of yellow-green snot that are thick enough to chew like fucking bubble gum. Nice, just made myself gag a bit. Ugh. It would also help to take OTC meds that advertise themselves to help "productive coughing", like Mucinex and the knockoffs. This stuff basically does the opposite of an antihistamine by causing more flow of thinner fluids that will loosen up your sputum.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

Wonder if anyone brought this up yet:

Mexicans wonder if Trump's wall could stop coronavirus spreading south

True to form, U.S. President Donald Trump has warned coronavirus could spread from Mexico, touting his anti-migrant wall as a solution. Seen from south of the border though, the greater risk is infection from the much bigger outbreak in the United States.

www.reuters.com

Mexicans wonder if Trump's wall could stop coronavirus spreading south

Lizbeth Diaz
3 MIN READ

MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - True to form, U.S. President Donald Trump has warned coronavirus could spread from Mexico, touting his anti-migrant wall as a solution. Seen from south of the border though, the greater risk is infection from the much bigger outbreak in the United States.


A general view shows the border fence between Mexico and the U.S. as pictured from Tijuana, Mexico, March 12, 2020. REUTERS/Jorge Duenes
Residents of the city of Tijuana, just across from San Diego, California, have for years crossed back and forth daily to reach jobs and schools. Many say they are now wary of bringing back the contagious disease from the U.S. side.
Perla Macias, a Tijuana resident who heads into California to tend a make-up concession in a mall, now sees her commute as a daily risk, but an unavoidable one.
“I don’t want to get sick, but I don’t have a choice,” she said. “I work over there.”
In Mexico, authorities have detected 12 cases of the virus so far and no deaths, a fraction of the more than 1,000 confirmed cases in the United States, where there have been dozens of fatalities.

In California alone 50 cases and four deaths have been confirmed. In Tijuana’s state of Baja California, no cases have been confirmed.
WALL WISECRACKS
Last week, Trump wrote on Twitter that his signature border wall is needed “more than ever,” citing coronavirus as a new argument for the barrier.
The overwhelming majority of Mexicans oppose the wall, dating back to Trump’s campaign for president in which he routinely lashed out at Mexico and its migrants.
Across social media though, Mexicans joked on Thursday that the wall had taken on new purpose - to stop U.S. citizens infecting Mexicans.

Wisecracks aside, Julian Palombo, a Tijuana business chamber official said what was needed was much tougher measures to check for infections coming from San Diego.
“It makes sense to build a wall, but a public health wall from over there to here to avoid the risk of possible infections,” he said.
Like others consulted by Reuters, Palombo bemoaned the lack of checks at busy land crossings into Tijuana, or in nearby airports. He added that face masks and hand sanitizer were in short supply on both sides of the border.
Coronavirus has infected more than 126,000 people globally according to a Reuters tally, most of them in China. In Italy there are 15,000 cases.
Some experts speculate that the outbreak is more acute in both Mexico and the United States than the relatively low number of confirmed cases suggests, due to insufficient testing for the virus. Mexican authorities say they have a clear containment strategy.
Tijuana Mayor Arturo Gonzalez Cruz has said that he is working with Baja California state officials to implement better health checks on persons crossing on foot each day.

Dulce Molina, whose husband works in a San Diego hotel, supported tougher sanitation measures at the border but said a physical barrier was not a solution to keeping the virus out.
“It’s all over the world,” she said.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

Would it be too doomer of me to ask, in the situation that hospitalization isn't an option, about ways to treat pneumonia, or at least alleviate some of the symptoms/lasting damage?

If worst happens, its not unrealistic to assume that hospitals won't be the easiest way to get treatment, might as well ask now lol.

...I miss when it was just shitposting about China.

Take vitamin C, fish antibiotics, random drugs you've bought from Singapore, go out like a boss surfing on your twenty cases of toilet paper.

There's no actual real at-home treatment for viral pneumonia. Sorry.

If you're SOB go to the emergency department but call ahead first.

 

[PantsFreeZone]

Dude.

I just went to a tiny Trader Joe's where I always buy my groceries and it was a madhouse. This is a store where I've never seen 2 people in line and today the shelves were emptied in a Florida pre-hurricane manner and there were at least 500 people in line. It was nuts.

The hysteria is more real than the virus and it will now have a wide, encompassing effect on everything around us. This is wild.

 

[Bad Gateway]

Contribooting my powerlevel: In a state with a declared state of emergency, my local stores are well stocked. Everything except hand sanitizer, masks, and wipes. Plenty of TP, all of the canned food except the small cans of Campbell's chicken noodle, and all of the chicken breasts were sold out too. Shop was busy, but not crammed, no real sense of panic, but some urgency, similar to shopping on December 23rd. Lots of closures and cancellations, most local schools still open, which could change. I would expect some kind of lockdown by the middle of next week. Fairly few cases here, personally, I'm anticipating a decent spike over the weekend.

 

[Reverend]

Would it be too doomer of me to ask, in the situation that hospitalization isn't an option, about ways to treat pneumonia, or at least alleviate some of the symptoms/lasting damage?

If worst happens, its not unrealistic to assume that hospitals won't be the easiest way to get treatment, might as well ask now lol.

...I miss when it was just shitposting about China.

1. Drink a shit ton of fluids drown yourself in water to flush your system
2. Take anti-inflamatory meds - advil, alleeve, etc. Alka-seltzer cold and flu is fucking great
3. Take anti-congestion meds - mucinex DM will make you cough up crud like no ones business but as a nurse has reminded me "Better out than in". Also sudafed will let you breathe through your nose.
4. Sit up, don't lie down, you can literally drown in your own mucus.
5. Walk around. I know this is counter productive but it'll get your blood flowing, breathing in air that's 'clean' and not recycled. And you'll start hacking shit up which is good.

I went in for a 'respiratory infection' to which they gave me steroids and these lil pills that helped my cough. I sound like I smoked a carton of marlboro reds as my throat is raw from coughing but I'm feeling much better.

You can only treat the symptoms, there is no cure for the flu. Whomever can cure the flu will make ungodly billions...if it's ever released.


I've also sent the family out to get basic supplies* we are low on:

1. Rice - you can eat this for fucking ever and it needs water which I have
2. Canned Veggies/Fruits - adds to what we already have in stock in rotation.
3. Butter - Butter is good, I can melt butter to make dairy if i have to.
4. Flour/Baking goods- I'll make my own bread. buying bread right now is fucking dumb. Flour can coat in chicken which I have in spades.
5. Salt/Pepper/Seasoning - You need these staples to make bread and make food not taste like shit out of a can.
6. Noodles - don't care what it is can use nearly everything.

Nice to have:
1. Bullion cubes - water+cube=chicken/beef stock and flavor. Add stock to noodles and you got ramen flavor
2. Oil (peanut/olive/veggie) - use this to cook with , you can recycle these liquids with a filter made from paper towels or even clothes



TRUMP CARD:
Because I Can: I bought a whole pig back in December, processed it, and now it's in my freezer. 250lbs of pure processed pork butt, shoulder, bacon, loins, chops, etc etc..
Everyone around me laughed at me for buying a whole pig "YOULL NEVER EAT IT EL OH EL!" but I"m gonna be eating literally high on the hog (HEYO) or barter for other goods.

 

[Aib Ld]

News reports are being re.tarded right now. The hospital I mentioned before now has 2 patients with the virus. Thing is, they never explain if they are spreaded by the very first before he was transferred to another hospital, the first patient is actually 2 patients all along, or it's 2 new patients. Either way, this really doesn't bode well for my aunt and town.

Also, now knowing the damage the virus does is very scary, despite that I don't know what most of words mean. Has any virus does damage that bad before? Or did Corona-chan break new ground?