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Sorry if this has already been answered in the thread before, but how severely harmed is Chinese industry/production of goods. I've seen some reports of Chinese factories being shutdown for months, however I've also seen some people theorizing that because of China's disregard for human life, that many factories will remain open and production won't be severely impacted.

Should we expect a signifcant supply shortage due to a disruption in Chinese production?
 
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Great health advice from India. Drink the cow piss bigots.
A Hindu group hosted a cow urine drinking party on Saturday as they believe it wards off the coronavirus, as many Hindus consider the cow sacred and some drink cow urine believing it has medicinal properties.
“We have been drinking cow urine for 21 years, we also take bath in cow dung. We have never felt the need to consume English medicine,” said Om Prakash, a person who attended the party.
 
Sorry if this has already been answered in the thread before, but how severely harmed is Chinese industry/production of goods. I've seen some reports of Chinese factories being shutdown for months, however I've also seen some people theorizing that because of China's disregard for human life, that many factories will remain open and production won't be severely impacted.

Should we expect a signifcant supply shortage due to a disruption in Chinese production?
I think they're more likely to have problems when it comes to shipping. You're talking about a lot of lost money if a trade ship gets quarantined at a port for a month.
 
Interviewer: So 60 percent need to get it and 1 percent will die. That's a lot of people?
UK's chief scientific adviser: Yes


The UK population is 66 million. 60% of that is ~40 million. 1% of that is ~400K. This is completely insane. It's pretty well known that flattening the curve works:

https://qz.com/1816060/a-chart-of-the-1918-spanish-flu-shows-why-social-distancing-works/

In 1918, the city of Philadelphia threw a parade that killed thousands of people. Ignoring warnings of influenza among soldiers preparing for World War I, the march to support the war effort drew 200,000 people who crammed together to watch the procession. Three days later, every bed in Philadelphia’s 31 hospitals was filled with sick and dying patients, infected by the Spanish flu.

By the end of the week, more than 4,500 were dead in an outbreak that would claim as many as 100 million people worldwide. By the time Philadelphia’s politicians closed down the city, it was too late.

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A different story played out in St. Louis, just 900 miles away. Within two days of detecting its first cases among civilians, the city closed schools, playgrounds, libraries, courtrooms, and even churches. Work shifts were staggered and streetcar ridership was strictly limited. Public gatherings of more than 20 people were banned.

The extreme measures—now known as social distancing, which is being called for by global health agencies to mitigate the spread of the novel coronavirus—kept per capita flu-related deaths in St. Louis to less than half of those in Philadelphia, according to a 2007 paper in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

The concept of “flattening the curve” is now a textbook public health response to epidemics, including the spread of Covid-19. Once a virus can no longer be contained, the goal is to slow its spread. Exponential growth in infections leaves health care systems struggling to handle the surge. But with fewer people sick at once (and overall), services aren’t overwhelmed and deaths diminish. This buys time for doctors to treat the flood of patients and researchers to develop vaccines and antiviral therapies.

Trying to get herd immunity by letting 60% of the population get infected rather than flattening the curve via social distancing is absolute madness.
 
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I live in a moderately-sized town with a population just under 40,000, and my state closed its schools recently and currently has 19 confirmed cases.

Went to a local grocery store, and while there were quite a few people there, no one was in any real hurry. Still loads of items on the shelves, though I didn't check the paper aisle. Though someone took all the French Silk pies.
 
Sorry if this has already been answered in the thread before, but how severely harmed is Chinese industry/production of goods. I've seen some reports of Chinese factories being shutdown for months, however I've also seen some people theorizing that because of China's disregard for human life, that many factories will remain open and production won't be severely impacted.

Should we expect a signifcant supply shortage due to a disruption in Chinese production?
CO2 emissions in China have dropped by 25% and oil prices are down like 50% due to Chain quarantining pretty much their entire labor force.
Shipping time from China to the west coast of the US is around 1 month via ship.
Take a guess what's happening.
 
It’s so interesting to see the way people are responding to this. Watching the internet over the last 24 hours, the way people act is like it’s a big snowstorm coming this weekend, like somehow there is a risk that is heightened during a specific period of time like it would be with a major weather event. In reality, what makes this weekend any more dangerous than, say, last Tuesday? A bunch of places around here are closing for arbitrary amounts of time. The zoo is closing til April 10, the aquarium til March 29th. My gym is closing for one week but they aren’t even starting the closure until Monday. They will be open all weekend and no members or anyone else affiliated with the gym have tested positive for the virus. What’s going to be so different on Monday? At this point it honestly feels like...performative, like places are doing it because they don’t want to look bad or like they don’t “care enough”.
Exactly the way people are talking its like a hurricane, "two weeks from now everything will be fine" yeah fuck that. We're basically now entering China's January. Chances are everything until July will need to be canceled. All school bullshit is over, as is the movie season and sports and everything else. Concerts are definitely a no go. I know a guy thats an exexutive at live nation and basically ticket sales are basically non-existent. LA is basically a town of millions of unemployed people right now. Even if you're in the guilds you arent being paid what you could be actually working. And those with jobs they can telecommute to, basically dont have any work to do.

I agree with your view about people swamping stores though. Apparently its doubled sales in retail places all around the states this week.

Ill be surprised if everyone will have the cash to survive 3 months of this bullshit. Especially with how many people are being laid off. Between LA and Vegas the entire mojave is going to be a LARP of New Vegas or California Love by June. I know if i couldnt work and knew property crimes werent going to get the cops called on me, I'd break into fucking anywhere. In 3 months im sure most people who haven't gotten paid in that time will start doing that, especially in the desert. You'd be surprised how many over 70+ people are just sitting around with a shitload of supplies and cash.
 
What amuses me is everyone who brushed this entire thing off repeatedly and would go back to yammering about impeachment and how Trump needs to be removed when I tried talking about it, and suggested they make a effort to prepare are now freaking out and can't shut about it. Absolutely no one besides me and less than a hand full of people where discussing it at work, but the last week and a half has all the Boomers scared now. Of course it's still somehow Trump's fault and lots of "Oh, so he's finally doing something about it?" When I ask someone if they saw whichever press release. Like bitch, you didn't fucking give a damn two weeks ago and visibly believed the entire travel restriction thing was racist BS to distract from your impeachment pipe dream.

I hate to be that person in this situation but Schadenfreude can be deceptively and alluringly sweet.

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Exactly the way people are talking its like a hurricane, "two weeks from now everything will be fine" yeah fuck that. We're basically now entering China's January. Chances are everything until July will need to be canceled. All school bullshit is over, as is the movie season and sports and everything else. Concerts are definitely a no go. I know a guy thats an exexutive at live nation and basically ticket sales are basically non-existent. LA is basically a town of millions of unemployed people right now. Even if you're in the guilds you arent being paid what you could be actually working. And those with jobs they can telecommute to, basically dont have any work to do.

I agree with your view about people swamping stores though. Apparently its doubled sales in retail places all around the states this week.

Ill be surprised if everyone will have the cash to survive 3 months of this bullshit. Especially with how many people are being laid off. Between LA and Vegas the entire mojave is going to be a LARP of New Vegas or California Love by June. I know if i couldnt work and knew property crimes werent going to get the cops called on me, I'd break into fucking anywhere. In 3 months im sure most people who haven't gotten paid in that time will start doing that, especially in the desert. You'd be surprised how many over 70+ people are just sitting around with a shitload of supplies and cash.
Dude, we are nowhere near China. China is one of the dirtiest, rat infested places on earth.
 
What amuses me is everyone who brushed this entire thing off repeatedly and would go back to yammering about impeachment and how Trump needs to be removed when I tried talking about it, and suggested they make a effort to prepare are now freaking out and can't shut about it. Absolutely no one besides me and less than a hand full of people where discussing it at work, but the last week and a half has all the Boomers scared now. Of course it's still somehow Trump's fault and lots of " Oh, so he's finally doing something about it?" When I ask someone if they saw whichever press release. Like bitch, you didn't fucking give a damn two weeks ago and visibly believed the entire travel restriction thing was racist BS to distract from your impeachment pipe dream.

I hate to be that person in this situation but Schadenfreude can be deceptively and alluringly sweet.
They're concerned now because there's a good chance their fat asses, likely suffering from other prexisting conditions and old age, have a decent enough chance of dying with their likely horrible diets.

All the relatively young people do not give a fuck, are cracking jokes about shit going Mad Max, posting memes on the internet, and tweeting about how everyone bought all the paper towels and toilet paper as if those would save them from the plague for some fucking reason
 
This would make a great time for a Trains, Planes, and Automobiles sequel to be set in. Have Steve Martin play some shut-in old guy who cameos while the main adventure is about his grandkids in europe and on a military base in asia illegally immigrating back home. Fun for the whole family!
 
My 85 year old aunt goes to mass every morning and she cooks for all the parish functions. There are a lot of older people who go to church several times a week. So people of the highest risk congregating together is a recipe for disaster.

Even if your church is still open just don't go. Although it's hard to get some people to understand. They will still go.

So my doctor did tell me to go to the ER. He would not see me in office and I let the hospital staff know that. I went yesterday and was there for almost seven hours. It was a madhouse. Everyone wearing masks and panicking. There was an older woman in a wheelchair who was screaming "Mama! Mama!" and throwing up. She looked really really bad and they took her right back. I don't think she was crazy. Some guy had an 104 fever. There was a four year old with the flu. And the nurses could not find a pulse oximeter for him at first because they were all tied up with people who thought they had wuflu but were fine.

In the waating room there was a couple munching away on chips and soda. She had to be about three hundy with cottage cheese ass visable through her thin, light grey leggings. He was a good five hundred and couldn't even fit in the chair right. The bigger chairs were all occupied by normal sized people and women with kids. So he had to sit sideways. It must have really hurt.

So the guy gets on his phone and asks someone "you outside?". Then the lady goes out and comes back in with fast food. I don't even... :cringe:

It was like a scene out of My 600 lb Life. How sick could you be if you are ordering fast food from the ER? Go home. You are fine. :mad:

There was some manic white trash lady having an argument with someone on the phone about how she did not pull a gun on her boyfriend and she was sleeping in her own bed that night no matter what. She was definitely on meth and kept obsessively going to the hand sanitizer dispenser.

Some ghetto trash was making fun of a exceptional guy who was really sick and throwing up. They called him a "crazy ass cracka" and said he didn't need a wheelchair because he walked in.

When I got into the back finally some guy was searched by security because they suspected he was doing drugs in the bathroom and tried to flush the needle.

Anyway, they did an EKG because they have to when you have chest pain of any kind. I also got a chest xray. And they made me wear a mask. Since most of the time I am only coughing when I move around I wasn't hacking up much.

They took five vials of blood and told me I had a respiratory virus. I wasn't swabbed for the flu because I didn't have a fever.

I had a bad respiratory infection two years ago and thought I was gonna die. I ended up with a small amount of collapsed lung tissue. This isn't as bad so far.

I would highly advise you to stay away from the ER unless you absolutely have to go or the doctor tells you to go there instead of the office. It is insane. Everyone thinks they are gonna die right now. The doctor at the ER told me that ther resources are being spread thin because of all the people panicking and coming in. God help you if you have a non-wuflu related emergency and they have to check someone with sniffles because they convinced themselves that they have the virus.

They aren't going to admit you unless you have a fever and need oxygen.

I am gonna pick up my prescription soon. I needed it last night but there was no way in hell I was gonna wait in that Walgreens. Everyone is panic buying. All the toilet paper and rubbing alcohol is gone. Almost all the water is gone.

Sounds like a normal visit to the ER in the ghetto, TBH.
 
Women use TP every time they use the toilet.
If that's not clear, women have to dry their slot after peeing.
If that's not clear, use fewer drugs, or more.

I have it on good authority that not all women have slots, transphobe.


Trump sure seems sickly.
Shortness of breath ... check
light sensitivity ... check
Carson by his side ... jesus

This worked better when they did it in Doctor Who.

"Don't you think she looks tired?"


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We need a final solution to the hoarder question.

The final solution is when all theses idiots are in the ICU or dying in plague camps, we can raid their houses for free shit.

Personally, I haven't gotten a "sickly" vibe from Trump.

If anything, it appeared that Trump, for once, is not enjoying his job as POTUS.

I get a "if only you knew how bad things really were" vibe from him. Seriously, more than anything else, I think that was kinda my blackpill moment.

"Oh shit. This really is a happening, isn't it?"


My own prep work isn't great. I have enough food to last a few weeks I think, if I ration properly. Really wish I had spent ~$50 on pork / beef roasts to freeze, since you can chop those up into chops and steaks and the like, and use the leftover bits as stew. Might try going out and seeing about buying some real quick, but from what I understand my town is pretty picked clean from panic buying. It's not urgent yet, so I probably can wait till next week and see if things stabilize.
 
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