Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[MadStan]

And this from Walmart - so they promised to cover sick pay and such and then wipe out an entire 33% of their workforce in one fell swoop by eliminating an entire 8 hour shift. The reasons given are pure lies. If this doesn't tell you economically we are in real trouble, then nothing will.

"A major grocery store chain is temporarily changing their hours amid an influx of customers clearing shelves of toilet paper, cleaning products, and other groceries from fears of coronavirus.

"According to a statement on Walmart's website, beginning Sunday, all Walmart stores and neighborhood markets will only be open from 6 a.m. to 11 p.m. until further notice.

"The company's COO says this will help ensure stores are able to stock products, especially those in high demand, and to also clean and sanitize stores.

"For employees, the company says all shifts will stay the same as will deliveries."

 

[jjabramsisdumb]

Meanwhile, in American Socialist land, the LatinX Marxist illegals and semi-legals have decided they are owed free houses, especially because of Wu Flu, so they're just going to fucking take them.

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Sorry, "reclaim" them.

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Bernie's totally-not-his-wink-wink team is involved:

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Of course, a group of Communist Chink infiltrators are involved:

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From the people that brought you "Lets just not arrest criminals, laws are racist" now comes "you fuckers can live in the pods, we want free houses instead."

The real scary thing about this is this is disruptive enough that some little Commie Goblin group like the DSA could actually sneak in and steal power during all of this.

I mean, they’re not wrong. I’d rather someone in an empty house than on the streets.

 

[MadStan]

And if it couldn't be anymore stupid this announcement from Walmart:

"Certain Walmart locations will allow parts of select parking lots to be turned into coronavirus-testing stations, Walmart CEO Doug McMillon said at a White House press conference on Friday."

So lets get this straight. Some dickhead is worried and wants to get tested. So what does he do? He goes to Walmart to get tested but in case the test comes back positive (after all he has symptoms and is going for testing) so what does dickhead do?

He goes shopping for supplies right before or after his test. This makes Walmart the new epicenter for stupidity and the virus.

We're supposed to keep testing centers and potential spread AWAY from where people gather! Who is running this fucking country? The 3 Stooges?

 

[LazyLizard]

so sweden has just given up, not even keeping track of the infected anymore. isn't having a feminist government the best?

Sweden: Public Health Authority will no longer report number of COVID-19 cases

Sweden's Public Health Authority has developed a novel way of combating the COVID-19 epidemic: by not reporting the number of cases.

voiceofeurope.com

 

[MrBlueSocks]

Pages back another poster put up this link to a livestream of several cameras in Wuhan.

Things are still really quiet. Too quiet.
Their time zone is GMT +8 , so it's 8am on Sunday morning right now. And there's movement, but no a lot. Massive roads are either empty or have a couple of cars on them. No people out and about, and the emergency hospital has the occasional guy in a full hazmat suit amble past.

Weren't the CCP claining that they've got things under control? They were claiming that they were back to work . Bollocks.


Also, this thread has gone to shit, I was remember when it was still cool. And there's few good posters not been seen for a while. I hope everyone's OK.

Edit: Spastic fingers. Twice.

 

[MadStan]

I mean, they’re not wrong. I’d rather someone in an empty house than on the streets.

America has on average 2% of houses empty waiting for renters or that are empty and up for sale. At any time "america" has a homeless population that could be housed in 24 hours. I'm not advocating it, but it is a fact there are enough homes so no one need be homeless.

 

[benutz]

It's habbening!

UK getting ready to send the troops in to defend supermarkets and hospitals.

Some folks don't like being told they can't hab no more baked beans!

Some folks don't like being told their ma and pa is gonna get the plug pulled in favour of some 20 year old!

Spoiler

Troops on the streets in the fight against coronavirus

The Royal Logistics Corps are preparing to be used to escort food convoys and the Royal Army Medical Corps is poised to build tented field hospitals next to care homes.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Coronavirus deaths in the UK almost double overnight to 21

The drastic measure will likely be enforced in the next 20 days as Boris Johnson ratchets up efforts to tackle the UK's outbreak.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Army could be drafted in to deliver groceries to ease coronavirus crisis

Government in talks with supermarkets over supplies for elderly and vulnerable as Chancellor sets out Budget support for virus-hit business

www.telegraph.co.uk

Army on standby to hit streets for when UK reaches 'peak coronavirus' stage

Prime Minister Boris Johnson will call upon the Army to keep supermarkets and petrol stations stocked up and functional if the UK hits 'peak virus' next month

www.mirror.co.uk

Looks like I got my baked beans just in time!

UK supermarkets draw up plan to 'feed the nation' as coronavirus spreads

Plans would help with panic-buying brought on by escalation of coronavirus outbreak

www.theguardian.com

I don't want any old or vulnerable people to die. But it's vanity on my part to think that what I want or wish will make any difference in the greater God's eyes.

But in my little human heart, I wish we could get a cull for all those selfish bastards hoarding tard roll


The game is afoot.

The die has been cast.

And the shit is about to hit the fan.


It'll be fun.

Whether you want it to be or not.

 

[ditto]

McDonald's self-serve kiosks now show a message saying that they are "cleaned regularly". Now I'm sure it's serious!

 

[eternal dog mongler]

I mean, they’re not wrong. I’d rather someone in an empty house than on the streets.

Yeah. It costs much less if you want to home the homeless compared to just letting them wander around the street and become frequent fliers.

Dr. Ben took away our funding though.

 

[afternoon_tea]

One kind of novel and interesting thing I heard from a credible source is that this has been doing the rounds since August of last year. As I say, it's a credible report. One of the defining factors with the disease is that it comes in stages. First you get a kind of typical cold, then it recedes. Few days later you get a nastier but still typical flu, then it recedes. Then a few days after that you get pneumonia. From which you probably recover. They weren't noting major deaths from their small set of observations.

But the disease itself has been doing the rounds for a while it would seem. For what little it matters.

I have no way of knowing if it had anything to do with this current illness, but I can anecdotally add that an illness like this ripped through my workplace in October. All of us that got it were talking about how weird it was because it seemed like two different illnesses, like a weeklong mild but annoying cold with slight fever that lasted a week, and then another week and a half of severe chest cold and breathing issues.

Maybe it was just some well known virus I've just never experienced before, but it definitely stuck out as odd to me at the time. I don't know if there'd be any way of finding out if some variation of this virus was making the rounds even earlier though.

I guess they could look back and see if there was an unusual spike in pneumonia at any point last year, but I don't know if there are any other tools they have for tracing back to the earliest it may have started.

I'd also really like to find out more about whether or not there are asymptomatic carriers. There were some reports early on about kids who may have been asymptomatic but tested positive, but I never saw any updates about whether they ever developed symptoms eventually.

 

[ditto]

Meanwhile, in American Socialist land, the LatinX Marxist illegals and semi-legals have decided they are owed free houses, especially because of Wu Flu, so they're just going to fucking take them.

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Sorry, "reclaim" them.

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Bernie's totally-not-his-wink-wink team is involved:

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Of course, a group of Communist Chink infiltrators are involved:

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From the people that brought you "Lets just not arrest criminals, laws are racist" now comes "you fuckers can live in the pods, we want free houses instead."

The real scary thing about this is this is disruptive enough that some little Commie Goblin group like the DSA could actually sneak in and steal power during all of this.

Of course they not relocating actual homelss from the street into these houses. They're turning them into DSA flophouses and activism centers.

 

[LazyLizard]

It's habbening!

UK getting ready to send the troops in to defend supermarkets and hospitals.

Some folks don't like being told they can't hab no more baked beans!

Some folks don't like being told their ma and pa is gonna get the plug pulled in favour of some 20 year old!

Spoiler

Troops on the streets in the fight against coronavirus

The Royal Logistics Corps are preparing to be used to escort food convoys and the Royal Army Medical Corps is poised to build tented field hospitals next to care homes.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Coronavirus deaths in the UK almost double overnight to 21

The drastic measure will likely be enforced in the next 20 days as Boris Johnson ratchets up efforts to tackle the UK's outbreak.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Army could be drafted in to deliver groceries to ease coronavirus crisis

Government in talks with supermarkets over supplies for elderly and vulnerable as Chancellor sets out Budget support for virus-hit business

www.telegraph.co.uk

Army on standby to hit streets for when UK reaches 'peak coronavirus' stage

Prime Minister Boris Johnson will call upon the Army to keep supermarkets and petrol stations stocked up and functional if the UK hits 'peak virus' next month

www.mirror.co.uk

Looks like I got my baked beans just in time!

UK supermarkets draw up plan to 'feed the nation' as coronavirus spreads

Plans would help with panic-buying brought on by escalation of coronavirus outbreak

www.theguardian.com

I don't want any old or vulnerable people to die. But it's vanity on my part to think that what I want or wish will make any difference in the greater God's eyes.

But in my little human heart, I wish we could get a cull for all those selfish bastards hoarding tard roll


The game is afoot.

The die has been cast.

And the shit is about to hit the fan.


It'll be fun.

Whether you want it to be or not.

i hope the troops get called in here in sweden, there's an army base at the edge of my city, maybe if the troops came marching through the streets in full on hazmat outfits people would finally take this shit seriously. so far no one is taking this shit seriously here, people are out walking and playing like nothing is going on when i talked to my vet when i went to buy dog food she just said "nah nothing is going to happen, don't worry about it". ffs i feel like i'm the crazy one because i seem to be the only one in the city taking this shit seriously.

 

[Cutlass Supreme]

I wonder what the lockdowns in Europe and the telecommuting in the US will do for carbon emissions, and if the results will be noticeable in the short term.
I also wonder if this will cause lasting change in the labor market in the future. Maybe enough employees and employers find out that they actually prefer telecommuting.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Trump doesn't have coronavirus. I'm sure he's relieved and thousands of blue checkmarks are screaming into their pillows.

Biden still has dementia though.

 

[Innominandum]

Study time
... short addendum, American innuendo edition ...

First 12 patients with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the United States

Methods​

We collected demographic, exposure, and clinical information from 12 patients confirmed by CDC during January 20–February 5, 2020 to have COVID-19. Respiratory, stool, serum, and urine specimens were submitted for SARS-CoV-2 rRT-PCR testing, virus culture, and whole genome sequencing.

Results and Therapy ​

Among the 12 patients, median age was 53 years (range: 21–68 ), 8 were male, 10 had traveled to China, and two were contacts of patients in this series. Commonly reported signs and symptoms at illness onset were fever ( n=7 ) and cough ( n=8 ). Seven patients were hospitalized with radiographic evidence of pneumonia and demonstrated clinical or laboratory signs of worsening during the second week of illness. Three were treated with the investigational antiviral remdesivir. All patients had SARS-CoV-2 RNA detected in respiratory specimens, typically for 2–3 weeks after illness onset, with lowest rRT-PCR Ct values often detected in the first week. SARS-CoV-2 RNA was detected after reported symptom resolution in seven patients. SARSCoV-2 was cultured from respiratory specimens, and SARS-CoV-2 RNA was detected in stool from 7/10 patients.

Conclusions​

In 12 patients with mild to moderately severe illness, SARS-CoV-2 RNA and viable virus were detected early, and prolonged RNA detection suggests the window for diagnosis is long. Hospitalized patients showed signs of worsening in the second week after illness onset.

Spoiler: Actual info I - Worsening, after first week

Overall, these patients had milder disease than those in initial reports from China.
All patients recovered or are improving, and three patients tolerated treatment with the investigational antiviral remdesivir. SARS-CoV-2 RNA was detected in upper and lower respiratory specimens, stool, and serum. The highest viral RNA levels were detected in upper respiratory tract specimens, typically during the first week of illness.

Initial case identification in China focused on hospitalized patients with pneumonia, but recent reports have described a milder clinical course, consistent with our findings. Among hospitalized patients in this report, the second week of illness was characterized by clinical or laboratory signs of worsening such as hypoxemia, increase in fever, or elevation of aminotransferases. No definitive evidence of bacterial co-infection was found. Worsening in the second week of illness is consistent with previous reports and highlights the importance of close monitoring beyond the first week of illness, even in patients with mild illness or no initial radiographic abnormalities.

Spoiler: Actual info II - Viral Retention in sputum and stool

SARS-CoV-2 RNA was detected in respiratory tract specimens for 2–3 weeks in most patients and for up to 29 days as of February 22. In two patients with a productive cough, viral RNA was detected in sputum after RNA was no longer detectable in NP or OP specimens. SARS-CoV-2 RNA levels and duration of RNA detection did not appear to vary by illness severity, and several patients had viral RNA detected in respiratory specimens after reported symptom resolution. We detected SARS-CoV-2 RNA in stool of multiple patients; testing continues to assess if this representsviable virus. SARS-CoV-2 was cultured from one patient’s stool in China28 but the implications for transmission are unclear. We detected SARS-CoV-2 RNA in the serum of one hospitalized patient but did not detect RNA in urine. More data are needed to better understand how duration of RNA detection, RNA levels, and viable virus are related to symptom progression, illness severity, and transmission.

Spoiler: Actual info III - Therapy

Three hospitalized patients received the investigational antiviral remdesivir under expanded access (compassionate use) at the time of clinical worsening based upon a decision by each patient’s clinician. Remdesivir inhibits viral replication through premature termination of RNA transcription. In vitro studies have demonstrated that remdesivir inhibits SARS-CoV-2 replication in non-human cells. Because remdesivir use was not given as part of a randomized controlled trial, We are unable to assess its effectiveness or safety (the fuck). Randomized controlled trials of remdesivir are underway. Two hospitalized patients received corticosteroids. WHO interim guidance for clinical management of severe acute respiratory infection with suspected COVID-19 advises against use of corticosteroids unless indicated for another reason.

Spoiler: Limitations

Our sample of patients is small. Information collected from patient interviews may have been subject to response bias. The threshold for admitting patients and for monitoring in the hospital was likely lower than for other respiratory infections because of uncertainty about the clinical course of COVID-19. Dates of illness resolution may be imprecise due to non-specific lingering symptoms or symptoms from chronic or unrelated conditions.Clinical laboratory tests and radiographic studies were ordered as a part of routine patient care and were not collected systematically. SARS-CoV-2 RNA detection does not necessarily reflect the presence of infectious virus, and rRT-PCR Ct values may have varied due to specimen collection or handling. Specimen collection is ongoing to inform both clinical management and infection prevention and control practices, and findings will be updated as more information becomes available.

Spoiler: Demographics and clinical characteristics of patients, probably chinese

More info at: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.09.20032896v1.full.pdf​

 

[Aib Ld]

Last time I knew of my state, there was 20 cases. Recently, it got a jump to 66. No explanation (yet?), but judging from the numbers by country, most likely community spread and the fights happening at various stores.

EDIT: Apprantely, there's a mall who has a confirmed case with an employee and is refusing to shut down.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

Apparently the fatality rate is about 10x deadlier than the flu and could very well kill over a million Americans over the next 12-24 months. If I can get a copy of it, I’ll share the email that goes over all of this from my uncle.

*Edit* he said I can share it once he crops out some headers, so I’ll upload it in a bit.

*edit 2* I’m working on cropping it right now/editing out emails. on reading the email there’s not a bunch of new info if you followed the thread. Also, I was wrong about the numbers, they actually think 1.6 million Americans will die. Another interesting tidbit is that spreading through fecal matter was confirmed, but apparently getting shots for pneumonia (?) and the flu are still good ideas cause if you’re sick with those, then COVID19 is more likely to kill you.

 

[Non-Expert!]

Ok, Friday was the last day for school LA Unified School District. This is no small decision. Locking kids in the house. If the second largest school district in the nation considers it dangerous for children to attend school, this is something to take seriously.

Husband does not want to go to the stores and hoard. He says it is too unsafe, because of the crowds.

Gonna share plan B:

For the sake of keeping you and your loved ones safe, it might be time to think outside the box. For example, let's say you have a bunch of oatmeal stored because you don't really like it ... well you can actually mix it with some ground beef and taco seasoning to make a meaty side.

Don't be afraid to make weird meal combos ... like ... do you have a bunch of those sweet instant oatmeal packets? Well, nasty as it sounds if you get stuck, you can still eat if you mix up a couple of those, bake up a couple of straggling fish-sticks in the freezer and have a side of kidney beans. You can eat this random stuff in courses, (French and Italian style), to make it more palatable.

That is just a random example but the best thing to do is stay out of stores, unless your cupboards are empty. It is hard for me to swallow my pride and cobble together such a bizarre menu, but it means less exposure to germ-infested grocery stores.

You can also stretch Kraft Mac and cheese by adding another fistfull of Macaroni. No more milk? Check the sour cream. If it isn't a Petri dish yet it should be a good sub for milk and butter.

There are also recipe finders out there: you enter the ingredients you have and the web churns out a potential dish.

Ok just thought I would share.

 

[Green Man]

Gotta go on a rant so please excuse the sperging, but holy shit I'm getting tired of people in my area/state bitching about the fact that because schools are closed, their children won't be able to eat. So basically some schools are still open on a limited basis so that kids can come there and eat. Firstly, what fucking good does closing the schools do if they're going to come in, be sat down in a room together and served food? Sure, they aren't going to be around eachother or in close-quarters for the normal duration of a school day, but you're still going to have kids coming in and transmitting the virus to one-another and staff. So what was the point of closing these institutions in the first place?

Secondly, aren't children supposed to have at least one adult in their life who lives with them and, oh, I don't know, provides necessities for these children? You know, food, water, hygiene products, a place to sleep. Aren't there entire government programs dedicated solely to this purpose, ensuring that families are fed? I know it's gonna be difficult for them but maybe if Shaneequa could stop trading her SNAP benefits for crack just for a month or so, she could feed her kids and wouldn't need to rely on institutions in her community to provide a meal for her kids.

Third, listen I know it's not a nice prospect for kids and it's not a good look for them to be hungry. But let's be realistic here. You do not need three meals a day plus snacks inbetween. That's a nice commodity and it's good to have a routine, but in a situation where you may be forced to isolate yourself from the community and as a result will need to ration your supplies, you MOST CERTAINLY do not need three meals a day. Actually, unless you're driving fenceposts or swinging a pickaxe all day, you don't need three meals a day then either. Sitting on your ass all day at home because you're quarantined, or even sitting on your ass in an office cubicle all day, these activities do not expend enough calories to require one to consume three meals a day plus a little treat from Baskin Robbins. I know it's unpleasant for many and a daunting prospect for people adjusted to this routine, but crisis situations no matter how temporary will require you to adjust certain behaviors and maybe even alter your lifestyle. Rationing will require you to pretty much just be hungry for most of the day. Simply being hungry will not kill you, and when it does begin to kill you, you'll sure the hell know it when it happens. Most people can go quite a while on no food if they're mostly sedentary during that time. It's not great for you, but you will survive.

Anyway, that's my autism for the day. Sorry. But I find it difficult to believe that we live at a time and place where parents don't understand that children require food, make no plans to provide said food when shit gets hairy, and then demand that many people be put at risk because they didn't plan ahead or consider their options. If you can't even afford basic, cheap subsistence foods and staples, perhaps you should consider wearing a rubber? This 'three squares a day, no matter what' mentality will cause people to burn through shit very, very rapidly if they don't understand that they'll have to adjust for the current scenario and most of them don't. You're not going to be eating a full breakfast, a submarine sandwich at lunch and half a pizza for supper unless you have no sense and you don't need it anyway. My breakfast most days is a cigarette and a cup of joe. I'm still alive. Most people, too, could afford to make a few new notches in their belt whether it's doomsday [it really isn't] or not.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Secondly, aren't children supposed to have at least one adult in their life who lives with them and, oh, I don't know, provides necessities for these children? You know, food, water, hygiene products, a place to sleep

Welcome to the 2020s, the family unit has been systematically flayed to nothing for 50 plus years.