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Yes. Funny how he doesn't like him huh?
#Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!
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Yes. Funny how he doesn't like him huh?
Convenient for Frog, he launches a campaign and some new idiots are coming at him. Lucky.
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Hey @FROG i have a question, I noticed Doug has his campaign set longer and it looks led like Zack had his only open for a month. What would the benefits be of doing a shorter campaign vs a longer campaign?
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Or false flag. Either or depending on how much foil you want to waste on pirate hats to keep the mind rays from Nibiru at bay.
Heh, I'm not suggesting anything like that.
But I do think the fact he has a new e-nemy played a role into launching when he did. Anger sells. He likes foils, no pun intended, who can't punch him back too hard. I'm certainly interested how the corona plays. I'm thinking people will have more cash from cancellations. Its whether they want to distract themselves or horde for potential medical bills that is unknown.
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In perhaps more interesting news, it appears that the bluehaired comic book troon gestapo have sent Mags Visaggio as an "envoy" to propose a ceasefire to EVS and Zack "in the face of the coronavirus".
This seems to have confused Ethan at first because the coronavirus does not impede his profession of fucking around in his basement for a living in the slightest, but he then realized that the virus has cancelled or plummeted the attendance of all upcoming comic conventions, which is how these SJWs are eking out a meager existence. It certainly isn't from sales of their shit comics after all.
In a move that some might call extremely based, EVS seems to have regarded this move where the opponents in his fight for his profession suddenly start crying in pain and asking him to stop as a signal to really lay it on. After all, it's not like they'd show any mercy for him whatsoever were the tables turned.
This seems to have confused Ethan at first because the coronavirus does not impede his profession of fucking around in his basement for a living in the slightest, but he then realized that the virus has cancelled or plummeted the attendance of all upcoming comic conventions, which is how these SJWs are eking out a meager existence. It certainly isn't from sales of their shit comics after all.
In a move that some might call extremely based, EVS seems to have regarded this move where the opponents in his fight for his profession suddenly start crying in pain and asking him to stop as a signal to really lay it on. After all, it's not like they'd show any mercy for him whatsoever were the tables turned.
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Probably the most interesting news in a few days, nice observation. At first I was wondering why the fuck corona virus would be reason enough for a "truce" in comics, but I think your convention analysis is spot on. They must know secretly on some level that their own supporters and fans never actually contribute to financially support their campaigns compared to the money that comicsgate brings in. The perfect time to kick these dogs is while they are down, being magnanimous to SJWs wont earn you any favors short or long term.
Also I'm about 50 minutes into the Andy and Geek stream and my god is it painful. It goes for 5hrs, was there actually anything interesting of worth to be gleamed from it?
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It's not my analysis, it's EVS'. But I can't find any fault with it.
Life's too short to spend five and a half hours listening to Warski stream with a fat, real life version of the soyboy wojak.
Life's too short to spend five and a half hours listening to Warski stream with a fat, real life version of the soyboy wojak.
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People are also more likely to stay away from shops or spend money on luxury items too. Pro's may gloat that the stores are their customers, but if Corona-chan drags on then you could see a large decrease in orders as consumers care more about food staples and where their next paycheck comes from.
I'd speculate that the chance of Disney shuttering the comics division and having IDW or someone license IPs has also increased. Disney's still $50b in debt, their stock prices have tanked by a third (from 150 to 102), and they have closed their big money makers in the parks, hotels, cruises and movies for at least 2 weeks with the possibility of a longer period. Investors will want to see some fat cut, why not rid themselves of a barely profitable publishing arm and have someone pay them instead?
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How does that even matter anyway? The whole lot of them may very well go under. Certainly both groups will very likely be downsized regardless in the future. Besides that, how do these people figure that suddenly either's fan base will suddenly be happy that Gail Simmone or Mark Waid is breaking bread with RIchard Meyer of all people? What a load of BS.
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I've been listening while doing shit around the house, basically so far it goes like this
1st Hour - Technical delays, Andy being a sperg on his soundboard, bringing up the Quartering being a bitch on twitter and his and Ethans feud, they then talk about how a bunch of big youtubers actually hate Ethan and have been encouraging them to do a video on him.
2nd Hour - They start watching Ethans video about them, TonkaSaw is the chat derails the thing, they invite Tonka and argue for a abit before booting him, they go back to watching Ethans video, Ethan shows up in chat and demands to be let on because his thin skinned and they basically tell him no.
3rd Hour - They start getting into the meat and potatoes of comicsgate, talk about Doug and Mike S Miller being booted from CG, talk about Ethan monetizing outrage for his bottom line, talk about Marvel and DC going SJW and how there is some validity to CG but feel its been co-opted by Ethan.
Ill edit this post as I go along to include the next 2 hours, but fuck I feel like ending myself right now. This stream is unbearable, the criticisms they have against CG certainly are valid but the delivery is just god awful.
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Tonka can't really let it go, can he?
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It's really cute that the pros want a truce now when they think they're in danger of taking a decent punch to the wallet. Didn't seem all that interested in peace when they were trying to get Ya Boi fired from his day job, targeting his Patreon or getting people labeled as alt-right nazis because they were mad about poorly filmed phone videos. If they really want peace, they could trying giving earnest apologies instead of switching tracks because they're simply afraid for the own situation.
But yeah, Pieman is gonna use this to really dig in now, so I guess we'll see how that goes
Ol' Pete ism't buying this truce either and he shouldn't after what they did to him.
But yeah, Pieman is gonna use this to really dig in now, so I guess we'll see how that goes
Ol' Pete ism't buying this truce either and he shouldn't after what they did to him.
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Losers ask for peace. Winners set terms of surrender.
What would it even be without him?
What would it even be without him?
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If this "twuce pweese?" schtick is real...and frankly thats a really big "if", then I am honestly fucking speechless....I mean lets think about this.
a) they have the absolute audacity to try and ask for a truce from people they spent a half decade declaring to be subhuman incel nazis and actively trying to destroy their careers and lives
b) and this one is the big one.....how fucked is the comics industry right now if they are trying to get the retard parade of comicsgate on side?!
If this aint just a blip or an attempt by some comic goon to farm "oh I extended the hand of friendship and these evil dudebros rejected it" reactions, then im thinking in the wake of DC slipping closer to oblivion and bat-aids closing both comic conventions and disney parks enough to put the whole comic industry and its corporate overlords deep into the red, that there are extremely angry phone calls and emails going round demanding that this neverending shitshow be ended ASAP.
a) they have the absolute audacity to try and ask for a truce from people they spent a half decade declaring to be subhuman incel nazis and actively trying to destroy their careers and lives
b) and this one is the big one.....how fucked is the comics industry right now if they are trying to get the retard parade of comicsgate on side?!
If this aint just a blip or an attempt by some comic goon to farm "oh I extended the hand of friendship and these evil dudebros rejected it" reactions, then im thinking in the wake of DC slipping closer to oblivion and bat-aids closing both comic conventions and disney parks enough to put the whole comic industry and its corporate overlords deep into the red, that there are extremely angry phone calls and emails going round demanding that this neverending shitshow be ended ASAP.
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verissimus
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A helluva lot less exceptional that's for sure. Exactly what difference does it make exactly except for those who very likely never would have had a chance to make a comic but did (i.e. TUG, Sweetcast, Jeff Hicks, Nasser, etc.)? I'd imagine the rest like Malin, Tennapel, and Miller would have managed with or without CG.
On another note, I still can't over this talk of "peace" in general. I mean, I get the whole slew of comic pros have gone cuckoo for the past decade, but do you honestly want me to believe we're at the point where a handful of them who have been bitching at each other and each other's fanbase just decided one morning to want to make "peace"? Since when do cows make peace?
@5t3n0g0ph3r Cows never surrender.
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Cows make peace when their asses are being held over a fire by those providing them funding/access/status. Only the most egotistical and autistic specimens will defy their overlords when their proverbial and literal tendies are on the line
And since my often sperged maxim of "these. people. don't. care. about. the. cause." is in effect with most of these fucking people who latched onto SJW shit to either get asspats or to wallpaper over their shoddy work, they would have zero moral or ideological qualms in grovelling before those they were calling nazi rape monsters five minutes beforehand, because its not like they would be betraying anything they actually cared about. The only exception would again be those whose egos and delusions are strong enough to convince them that they can defy orders from above with impunity.
Ofcourse, I still have yet to see proof of a widespread attempt to call an armistice so while I have no doubt they would be craven and shameless enough to pull this shit, im not sure such a thing is happening just yet
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All these gates are the same. We've been here before with the class of 2016's Skeptics. Remember when the great truce was brokered and Warski was getting friendly with MTV Decoded's Francesca Ramsey and the anti-feminists went from savaging to simping for Lacey Green?
That didn't end well. These sociopaths never change, they're parasites and once they've bled you they'll stab you in the back and say 'LOL psych! Never liked you anyway.'
Right now they're the ones afraid of being gate-kept, they can see that crowdfunding might become their only avenue to market in the future and Comicsgate have indiegogo's ear so they're scared that EVS might use his influence to gate-keep them from the platform, because that's what they'd do if they had his influence.
Being SJW's they don't understand that not everybody is a grasping narcisist with a borderline personality disorder and doesn't behave like them.
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Nigga are you serious? This is Ethan Van Sciver we're talking about here. That's exactly who he is.
And these people who told him they weren't going to let up until the only thing coming out of his mouth was "would you like fries with that?" are now asking "please don't cancel me".
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I don't think there are ANY benefits to opening a campaign at 60 days, which is your maximum funding period.
I think the reason Doug did it was because he might not have opted into In Demand, which would make his campaign a store after the time he chose. So he's leaving it open the maximum window of time, right out of the gate, to collect all the money he can, at which time he'll close out the campaign for good.
The problem with that: The first 48 hours and the last 48 hours are big sales spikes. The time in between is a slow drag. A successful campaign might make $1000 per day during that middle period.
The plan that we've found is MOST successful is to run a 30 day campaign, and then use your one extension to add another 30 days at the last minute. People rush to back the campaign on day 30, and you get that huge spike in sales, then you decide to extend it, and you get another final day spike on day 60.
Zack runs 30 day campaigns and then lets it fall into an In Demand store because he gets his payout after the 30 days, and he needs to pay people. He's been very successful running campaigns as In Demand stores after his funding period, so it makes sense for him to do so.
But these numbers are all pretty arbitrary...the longer your campaign runs, it doesn't necessarily mean you'll bring in more money. I ran a 7 day campaign a year and a half ago and made $90K. The urgency and time limit works just fine.