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SARS 1.0 had lung scarring as a semi common long term side effect in survivors, and with the similarity between the two illnesses some suspect this one to act similarly.
Limited studies on survivors of the 2019 edition seem to support that theory
Of course someone who just got over severe pneumonia would have 20-30% less lung functionality a month later. That is not unexpected.

The difference was that the SARS scarring was still present, and getting worst, years later. Its far too early to determine if Red Lung will do the same damage. Like I said earlier, it takes 3-4 months for a typical pneumonia victim to regain full lung function. Corona is causing severe weeks long pneumonia, the damage will be worse and take longer to heal, especially as it takes weeks for the body to be fully rid of the disease, which would impede healing.

Now, if that dysfunction lasts in those patients 6 months from now after pulmonary therapy, then we have a problem. But ATM it is far too early to tell. Especially when these reports are coming from.....china. Do not believe anything China says (they reported everything from heart attacks to male infertility coming from this thing). These people with permanent lung damage could have gotten said lung damage from many sources, likely their lungs and pulmonary system were already damaged by years of breathing in china's shitty air, and Coronachan made that very evident. Until countries in the west, and places like singapore/japan confirm these findings, take China's reports with a truckload of salt.
 
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"Downtown Nashville" is "trending" for me right now and it's full of people like this one A-logging partygoers :
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jesus christ, we get it, these people are stupid, but they just want to continue their lives
 
Here is some very smart women trying to shame people to go and eat out and receive take-out at Chinese restaurants. Lets be honest any take-out and restaurant is a potential hazard when you have additional people touching and preparing your food. It's always women who come up with this sorta shit then they get mad and wonder why people do not want female leaders, with the "lets bake cookies for the soldiers" mentality.

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I like that one of them mentioned social distancing while advocating people eat out. Why would you want to eat food someone else prepared and breathed all over if you're actively distancing yourself from other people to prevent infection? Such fucking buffoons scrambling for woke points.
 
Don't think autism is in the high risk category. Some conditions autists have a tendency of also having, sure. Autism on its own? Only if it's the kind needs aides for every task.


The Soviet Union put political dissentients in asylums. The go to diagnosis for them was sluggish schizophrenia. Bad example unless you like chemically lobotomizing people you disagree with.
You're right about that, even places in America for the mentally disabled like Penhurst and Willowbrook were awful to say the least. Just wish some people were off the streets.
 
First deaths where I am. Most patients not severely ill which is interesting (although most are 40-60 and fit, they’re the initial cases from skiing holidays ) but capacity becoming strained.

I have a low fever, a dry cough, my heart isn’t happy and I’m feeling unwell. Confined to barracks at the moment, and extremely glad of the weeks of prepping done. Probably just a bad chest infection took but I’ll never know because nobody is testing any more. We need a rapid POC test ASAP.
 
Here is some very smart women trying to shame people to go and eat out and receive take-out at Chinese restaurants. Lets be honest any take-out and restaurant is a potential hazard when you have additional people touching and preparing your food. It's always women who come up with this sorta shit then they get mad and wonder why people do not want female leaders, with the "lets bake cookies for the soldiers" mentality.

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Taco Bell figured out how they will win the franchise wars. Everybody eating out at other places will get WuFlu and only the Taco Bell customers will remain. We've already run out of toilet paper and Denis Leary lives in a sewer, it's only a matter of time until this comes true.
 
First deaths where I am. Most patients not severely ill which is interesting (although most are 40-60 and fit, they’re the initial cases from skiing holidays ) but capacity becoming strained.

I have a low fever, a dry cough, my heart isn’t happy and I’m feeling unwell. Confined to barracks at the moment, and extremely glad of the weeks of prepping done. Probably just a bad chest infection took but I’ll never know because nobody is testing any more. We need a rapid POC test ASAP.

Bless you, @Otterly. Take good care of yourself and keep us posted.
 
Chinese restaurants not getting business due to racism"

What about all the other restaurants? Confirmation bias is a bitch.


The official info is bullshit. Homes, have you not been following at all? There is not a low chance in a lot of the US. They're artificially decreasing the numbers by refusing to test people, and even the artificially decreased numbers show a worrying exponential trend. The rest of the world is learning from Italy's example of leading with mass death. Do you think Disney, for example, has or ever would completely shut down for no reason? Do you think the executives in charge of Disney are making casual, uninformed decisions with their money? That school districts are shut down across the country for funsies? Kids don't even get sick, they just carry it.

If you are healthy there is absolutely no way to know if you're carrying it. Because they won't test you. Act as if you're contagious. Stay the fuck home unless absolutely necessary. I know it's really easy to fall into the "it can't happen HERE!" trap, but it absolutely can. Italy is a first world country, and it couldn't happen there until it did.

Agree it's not possible for most, but I think people are underestimating just how much it's spread in the U.S.. Most states are still limited to a small number of tests because there's a bottleneck & focus is going to places where sustained community spread has been proven. Some states have evidence of community spread, indicating that a significant portion of their population is already infected, but aren't considered "sustained" yet because they don't have enough tests to prove such a thing.


The CDC is very much at fault for blundering the testing situation to begin with imo. They fucked up the efficacy of the tests and failed to provide access to local testing while stalling the general public and pretending they would start training for it "soon". The FDA was just doing their job.

I think the truth is that they are purposefully holding back testing because it's very widespread and everyone who gets pozzed will want to be in the hospital and clog up the system. Talking to people I know in hospitals that is the biggest concern right now, a repeat of the situation in Italy. We have a limited number of hospital beds and staff. So they limit the tests and tell high ranking govt officials and large corporations to shut shit down.

Tomorrow a lot of non essential (ie clothing, toys, electronics but not food) retail stores will be announcing they are closing at 6-8pm.
 
France and Belgium have more and more wide spread of age groups getting "severe" symptoms and aggravation from the virus, even if it still statistically hit the elderly much more, their narrative was "it only affects badly very old people, everyone else under 60 years old is fine."

Well, we all know chinese doctors and patients as low as the age of 34 died from it... Now there's a bunch of 30 to 40's year old cases that have their life pronostic engaged in a bunch of hospitals in France and Belgium.

Here's even 3 medics in Belgium in their 40's who are in intensive care being in severe condition / vital pronostic engaged.

Article here :

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Here is some very smart women trying to shame people to go and eat out and receive take-out at Chinese restaurants. Lets be honest any take-out and restaurant is a potential hazard when you have additional people touching and preparing your food. It's always women who come up with this sorta shit then they get mad and wonder why people do not want female leaders, with the "lets bake cookies for the soldiers" mentality.

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Butbutbut....That's the best part.
 
First deaths where I am. Most patients not severely ill which is interesting (although most are 40-60 and fit, they’re the initial cases from skiing holidays ) but capacity becoming strained.

I have a low fever, a dry cough, my heart isn’t happy and I’m feeling unwell. Confined to barracks at the moment, and extremely glad of the weeks of prepping done. Probably just a bad chest infection took but I’ll never know because nobody is testing any more. We need a rapid POC test ASAP.
Oh man, I was wondering when you were going to post again. All the best, and take care of yourself. Take it easy.
At least we've all got preps in, thanks pretty much entirely to this thread.
 
You're right about that, even places in America for the mentally disabled like Penhurst and Willowbrook were awful to say the least. Just wish some people were off the streets.
I am torn on the homeless situation.
Having volunteered at both a homeless shelter, that can house up to 400 people nightly, and then volunteering for a homeless outreach where we make and take PB&J sandwiches, bottled water and candy bars, and bring them to an outdoor distribution site: The shelter is just a huge vector for spreading any virus. People congregate in tight quarters at night, and then are kicked out into the streets to wander until they can check back in the next night. Nightmare fuel for disease spreading.

The outdoor distribution for food would seem to be the better option. The "unhomed" have less prolonged contact with each other and they then return to their various encampments. There is really no great option, but encouraging the smaller encampments that they normally form, as opposed to sheltering hundreds of them, seems to me to be the lesser of two evils.
 
Shit, sorry Otterly. My whine about not being able to go for a beer seems selfish now.

Get well soon.

cheers, appreciate the thoughts! I’m Ok, I’m sure it’s just another bloody cough, this year has been shit for them.
On the off chance this is it, so far it’s gone:
Very high fever and sweating one night, and tingling in limbs, gone in the late morning, followed by a gradual onset of shortness of breath and a dry unpleasant cough. Palpitations, low fever which fluctuates and fatigue. Same as any chest bug except the palpitations, which are unpleasant. I can tell I’m fighting something off but I’m Ok as long as I don’t exert myself. Husband has same symptoms, kids have a minor cough. This is day 3. We are staying away from everyone as per local guidelines. Probably just a cold.
 
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