Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

They really shouldn't given their mother company loses about 50 million a day now or something like that. They can't get propped up for now like they used to.

At some point someone is going to realize they're going to go belly-up with their continued "fuck our customers" attitude.
 
So, umm...here’s a thing.
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Wanna see just how bad it gets?
 
I'm not going to go into the deep lore for Ben but he's kind of a fuckup and an idiot who needs to get his shit together before even Warcampaign would trust him with another crowdfund.

I should mention, they reopened the Offworlder campaign and I have heard absolutely nobody say anything about it.
 
Hoo boy, they're going to really wish they didn't say 'fuck you' to the fans that are still working through these sickly times, and making money, and will be in quarantine needing something to read.

But hey, at least fat, crooked nosed women who identify as a non-binary catkin now can tweet a pretty pink comic they will never read and will be cancelled in five issues.
 
Lady Alchemy/Martina Markota is another Cridious in the making

Go to 1:37:00 to 2:00:00 for the gist of the following : https://thedickshow.com/episode-198/

Some highlights of the video were
1) Markota pretty much didn't give her writer and artist practically any lead/direction and chose to essentially ignore their scripts (or just not care until later);
2) Markota, like Cridious, apparently appropriated a chunk of the project's money for a Visa for her husband or boyfriend (forgot which);
3) Her artist (not sure about the writer) was paid only 4k;
4) Her artist and/or writer actually started the project (so technically it's theirs);
5) Markota was allowed/offered to come on the show but didn't (don't really think much of an effort was made to get her on but whatever);
6) Her artist and/or writer shared the same accountant at least for this project so they should be able to actually prove their case;
7) Either her artist or writer went through the trouble still of shipping Lady Alchemy posters and shirts while Martina did nothing; and
8) The only involvement that I can discern Doug had was essentially just talking to the artist and writer on how to deal with Martina after things went south. So technically...Micah's conspiracy theory does have a kernel of truth, but that's only because of the peculiar situation (see also @Mister Dongs post in the Hanger's on thread regarding Micah Curtis' white knight defense/conspiracy theory against Doug Tennapel wanting to de-platform Lady Alchemy if you want a dose of exceptionalism)

I'm now going to check this Wengcast the above CG autist mentioned (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxqZezmJ_RM). I'll summarize it a bit....

So not surprisingly her story is pretty much the same that she gave on Twitter. She didn't like their script, they were taking advantage of her, they closed down the project which from what I understand is true, because they apparently actually owned and started the project.

Edit : (still listening to this gibberish...)

1) Goddang her "story" is pathetic compared to the other two gentlemen who were way more straightforward on what went on, what they did, how they could prove their story, etc;
2) So apparently...she denies that the former writer of the comic who she had worked with before and was helping the artist actually wasn't the writer...then who the hell wrote the comic then? That only leaves her or the artist, and it seems abundantly clear Martina wrote jack shit;
3) Continues with the claim that Lady Alchemy only showed up in page 14 when the former artist and writer said she first shows up in page 4 (note that her former artist and writer said the idea was that the story would have ten issues and that the first comic was going to be more of an origin story hence why the title character didn't get that much focus);
4) She says her artist provided no artwork...;
5) Jesus...she's playing the victim-card up the ass surrounded by her loyal white knights no less;
6) So far the 4k number is accurate (Martina says she paid 3k at first then 1k later) not 10k which she specifically said on Twitter,
7) Did she just sort of admit around @59:00 there wasn't a contract before (that is with her previous artist but there is one with the new guy)....how stupid are you people; and
8) @1:11:20 Oh piss off with this Doug Tennapel Derangement (or maybe it could have been Doug Ernst since he only said Doug). God you CG people are a broken record.

I stopped at 1:20:00 or so. I couldn't take any more of the meandering, "it's his fault", "it'll be great with the new guys", repetoire. I certainly will add that I have no idea why in general she decided to go with this artist over somebody else and not, like I noted before, just because he lacked experienced in making a comic book, but also that his artwork is just not good.

The only nice thing I can say is that the new art looks good.
 
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Investigative journalist/excessive free time haver Mike S. Miller is getting to the bottom of this.

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So apparently the Lady Alchemy creative team were already working on a project when they approached Markota to see if they could use her to raise the profile of their pre-existing enterprise and shoehorn "Lady Alchemy" into it and on the covers. It doesn't seem like Martina was aware of any of this though. And since she was the fundraiser, all the money was being given to her. Which strikes me as a bit of an oversight but you can't expect much from dumb frogposters.
 
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I'm starting to form a little conspiracy theory of my own of this mess at least in regards of how it relates to CG inc. It seems to me that Martina, is being quarantined/kept at arms length by CG, outside certain white knight defenders i.e. Micah Curtis, who want to use this as an opportunity to write this off as some kind of Anti-CG plot because Doug Tennapel just so happened to speak with the artist and writer who was helping him.
 
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Hey all. I've been lurking here a bit the past couple years (not as much since I'm working on art again now), and since I still follow the slow motion CG train wreck casually I thought go ahead and make an account so I can say hi. I have no idea what's going on with Mike and Frog these days, but hello all you weirdos!
 
Uh, the frog? What frog?
@FROG obviously Ashley. His Ethan Van Sciver, former DC artist and the creator of Cyberfrog. You might be interested in his work given your penchant for furries and zoophilia. If you decide to do any fan art and fanfic material, please don't hesitate to post it in this thread. Ethan is a proud warrior for the LGBT community, so if you want to have poor Cyberfrog getting split in half by his brother Salamandroid's massive cock I'm sure Ethan would be very appreciative.
So who is this Ben guy? lol. These SIMPCAMPAIGN people are some of the lamest people I have ever seen. Holy shit... Never have I been so unimpressed with their "memes" in my life. Our chat is so much more savage than these tardlets.

It's honestly like having middle aged housewives on Facebook trying to mic drop you lol.
Benjamin Hennessey? Henderson? Henneson? I can't remember his last name, he was one of the earlier CG creators. He somehow shacked up with Chuck Dixon (the co-creator of Batman's villain Bane) and founded Cautionary Comics. Their first campaign Ravage: Kill All Men was the third campaign I ever backed in 2018 (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ravage-kill-all-men/x/18750285#/). It raised just under 50K and was one of the more successful CG books from a relatively unknown at the time. The book ended up being late (like most CG books), the art was pretty terrible in some panels and he must have fucked up pricing international postage because no international backers got their book and he had to refund everyone. He tried to launch a second campaign called The Offworlder, which failed spectacularly and they pulled it down.

He then sold Cautionary Comics to James Dean Anderson, who himself has a book which hasn't been fulfilled yet (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/conflict-claws-out/x/18750285#/), a common theme you'll start to notice within Comicsgate. Ben is now crawling back to CG and has relaunched The Offworlder which is doing even worse this second time around (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/offworlder-by-mike-baron-and-jordi-armengol/x/18750285#/). His a literal nobody and his channel hardly has any subs, I wouldn't worry about him. His probably grandstanding in an attempt to show loyalty to CG to remind them all he exists in hopes they'll back his book.
Malin could do it. TUG could do it. Yellow Flash could do it. Raging Golden Eagle could do it. Anna could do it.
Malins already doing it. Have you grabbed an oar and screamed "I AM COMICSGATE" from a rooftop yet Ethan? TUG only helps himself in case you haven't picked up on that yet. Yellow Flashs audience is pretty mixed, a cross between CG, Weebwars and Killstream viewers, if he openly shills for CG too much it might damage his channel. Raging Golden Eagle has already shilled for CG books in his streams, the effects on campaigns were near negligible. His audience is mostly MGTOW, outrage merchants and weebs, they'll support his campaign because they like him. I don't know much about Anna, but i doubt her audience really gives a shit about comicbooks. Probably a bunch of thirsty neckbeards who want to watch a half decent looking girl talk about Star Wars.
Hey all. I've been lurking here a bit the past couple years (not as much since I'm working on art again now), and since I still follow the slow motion CG train wreck casually I thought go ahead and make an account so I can say hi. I have no idea what's going on with Mike and Frog these days, but hello all you weirdos!
You already seem far to nice for this place. Turn back now, it will destroy you.
Lady Alchemy/Martina Markota is another Cridious in the making
Speaking of Cridious, he done another livestream a few days ago with Fan Advocacy Network. If FAN sounds familar he was the youtuber who got his twitter flagged by warcampaign and then Reinoe spread fake discord images of him admitting to having CP. Poor guy couldn't even defend himself while Andrew Huerta, Liam Gray, Warcampaign, Micah Curtis and Donal Delay signal boosted the shit out of it and kept tagging the FBI in an attempt to ruin the guys life. Real nice friends you got there @FROG


Its a short stream, goes for about an hour. FAN is pretty fair to Cridious, asks him about solutions to the dilemma, what mistakes others could learn from him, if Comicsgate offered any support etc.
 
In other news, frequent EVS guest and the writer/producer of CG comic Englewood, Micah Curtis, has been making plays for the heavily contested title of "dumbest Comicsgate figure" by putting forward not one but two of the most exceptional conspiracy theories I've seen within the span of a week. The first concerns the aforementioned project Englewood.


There's no pictures of the protagonist Elijah Wallace, a "wealthy MMA superstar who encounters tragedy and starts fighting crime - a Hero Born in Blood" fighting said crime, or even in costume, but we can gather that the hero from the mind of Micah Curtis' does have passions, like being oiled up and swole, beating up wh*toids and smashing white bitches with his BBC. Of course, we can't judge the work before it comes out, but by all appearances he's approaching Bendis-territory with this shit.

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Things were well on trac- well actually no they were not, Curtis is half a year behind on this 36 page debut presumably because his artist had previous arrangements doing art for MILFToons by the looks of it, but in any case, this week "Grok Comics" debuted a new character to his "Christian 90s-comic"-themed "Tribulation Taskforce" roster, Eli Caldwell, "wealthy, disgraced MMA fighter who encounters tragedy and starts fighting crime as The Thief in the Night". How 90s is it do you ask? I shit you not, Grok Comics offers pogs as a stretch goal.

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Of course, Micah's project is already funded, backed by Comicsgate and he's had almost a year head start to get his 36 page pamplet out the door and firmly establish himself as the originator of the concept of "guy who was trained in fighting fights crime", so he has nothing to wor- No wait, Micah immediately threatened an internet lolsuit over Twitter.


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Micah then sought to outdo his own exceptionalism by pushing forward a conspiracy theory that Doug TenNapel was some sort of gay op mastermind behind Martina Markota's "Lady Alchemy" crowdfund being dead in the water from fulfillment, instead of the increasingly accepted theory that Martina is an idiot who spends her time livestreaming reading from textbooks and begging for superchats instead of working on her comic book.

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Now Micah's egregious simping for Lady Alchemy has caught the attention of the Dick Show, because Doug can get on streams like that, while Martina has to show up on fucking Wenger's stream.

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So, Micah has started down the path of ruin like many of his former Channel Awesome colleagues.
Is it really that hard to not be exceptional?
 
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So nick called out Micah Curtis on starting shit with doug being involved with lady alchemy.

The live stream isn't done saving yet so I'll or someone else will snipe the part where nick talks about Doug.


3:11:42 Adressing The lady Alchemy drama
3:12:17 calling out micah.

Nick is right about cg keeps bringing him into drama which he has been quiet about cg drama since his debate with Ethan, is Cg a battered woman's shelter because ch can't be dramawhoring the same 3 people every live stream.
 
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Apparently there's some good news for CG. Comic artist Dan Fraga has decided to enter the fray on their side. Let's see how long he lasts...
 
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Apparently there's some good news for CG. Comic artist Dan Fraga has decided to enter the fray on their side. Let's see how long he lasts...

Probably the same way doug's tenure. Makes a book, does a book on a license property which the owner of the property tells him to stay away from this gate shit and Ethan ask if the character he's working on is homophobic, cries 3 days straight how another known creator left cg end Cecil is going to pretend he already "saw" it coming.
 
Just a dumb boomer who bit off more than he could chew when it came to making a comic. I'd be more concerned about WarCampaign and only because they make it a point to be actively annoying. But yeah, they should be basically zero threat to you.


Marvel is trolling hard as fuck right now. Here's the clip for convenience.

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Do you think they are that self aware?

Hoo boy, they're going to really wish they didn't say 'fuck you' to the fans that are still working through these sickly times, and making money, and will be in quarantine needing something to read.

But hey, at least fat, crooked nosed women who identify as a non-binary catkin now can tweet a pretty pink comic they will never read and will be cancelled in five issues.

Honestly it wouldn't matter. most your talking the difference of ten thousand. No one reads comics anymore.

1) Goddang her "story" is pathetic compared to the other two gentlemen who were way more straightforward on what went on, what they
3) Continues with the claim that Lady Alchemy only showed up in page 14 when the former artist and writer said she first shows up in page
7) Did she just sort of admit around @59:00 there wasn't a contract before (that is with her previous artist but there is one with the new guy)....how stupid are you people; and
8) @1:11:20 Oh piss off with this Doug Tennapel Derangement (or maybe it could have been Doug Ernst since he only said Doug). God you CG people are a broken record.

1. She's been stripping or whatever as alchemy for years. He can try, but pretty sure he'd have a hard time stealing it from her.
2. She doesn't need a physical contract. they can have a verbal agreement. Not a good idea, but she's not a businesswoman.


So nick called out Micah Curtis on starting shit with doug being involved with lady alchemy.

The live stream isn't done saving yet so I'll or someone else will snipe the part where nick talks about Doug.


3:11:42 Adressing The lady Alchemy drama
3:12:17 calling out micah.

Nick is right about cg keeps bringing him into drama which he has been quiet about cg drama since his debate with Ethan, is Cg a battered woman's shelter because ch can't be dramawhoring the same 3 people every live stream.

This shit is tedious. Notice how they go after Doug Tennaple more than actual SJW's?

Nick's either lying or hasn't kept up because Doug shit talks comicsgate every time I listen. Not Frog in particular though.

Also fuck Nick and Tye for unrelated weeb reasons.
 
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