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I'm not a writer, but I took a crack at revision
"Leia handed her Luke's lightsaber, Rey took it reverently and dashed into the jungle with BB-8 rolling after her.' That's my revision.
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"Leia handed her Luke's lightsaber, Rey took it reverently and dashed into the jungle with BB-8 rolling after her.' That's my revision.
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I don't remember Kreia ever showing respect towards anyone but Revan, does she ever does say something that can be seen as respect or similar emotion toward the Exile? I mean before she reveal stuff in the endgame?
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Yeah please go ahead with more juicy tidbits.
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Please post all the juicy tidbits you can find.
Mark Raats on Twitter
“If you really want to piss me off then steal my art, use it in an official TOPPS card set and pretend its your own. As if to irritate me even further its clear all this genius did is trace (badly) my comp - flipping it as if that would make it ok. Get your grubby shit together”
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And I know Itchybacca can be divisive around here, but he just made a pretty good compilation of some of the shit Disney has stolen Star Wars, especially Marvel comics with their shameless tracing of fan designs.
Star Wars Artist Plagiarizes For TOPPs
That’s the claim of artist Mark Raats, who recently tweeted out the following: The artist who flipped the artwork and traced it is Norvien Basio, according to another TOPPS associate, KSGeekM…
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The latest Star Wars comic is AN INSULT to fans! (...and why I'm done buying Star Wars comics)
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Marvel Stole a Fan's Star Wars Designs (again!)... and REFUSES to acknowledge them!
Marvel stole a fan's custom ship and astromech, and included it in two comics with no credit given at all. This is the continuation of a series of videos I w...
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Marvel stole EVERY CAPITAL SHIP for their latest Star Wars Comics... from FAN designs!
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Official Star Wars Movie Posters are stealing FAN ART... and it gets WAY worse
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Star Wars Books are STEALING fan art... and it has to stop
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Anyway, back to the old grind, and if you just got here, read this first:
Much time had passed since the formation of Skyriver and the disappearance of Wutzek's progeny, equal to millions upon millions of years to anyone else but the Celestials. The centuries passed and the Celestials had left the main galaxy in which they planted the seeds of life and each went off to work on their own personal galaxies where they could still keep an eye on the central galaxy while allowing it to develop by itself. It was from there that they joyfully witnessed the birth, evolution and rise of the Firstborn. The Firstborn were the first lifeforms to achieve full sentience and higher intelligence, and it was their hope that the Firstborn would one day advance far enough that they would become like gods themselves and take the place of the Celestials who would then leave the Skyriver in their hands and go off to create more worlds. The Firstborn were wonderfully gifted and each blessed to be strong in the Force, possessing knowledge or abilities that would allow them to bring more life to the galaxy and help it grow. Making them suitable precursors for future generations.
The Firstborn consisted of the first 80 species to successfully evolve into sapient life. However a small number of them were advancing at impressive rates, eventually achieving an unprecedented high level of intelligence and the creation of technology. These few, much like their progenitors, would come to be known by many names some of which they shared with the Celestials and Old Ones, as many species could not see the difference between them, with titles such as "Architects" and "Gods", but their most common title were the "Precursors". The Celestials worried these powerful Precursors were advancing too fast and might risk falling to the dark side, causing harm to unevolved species as they finally achieved the means to reach other worlds. So the Celestials appeared before them in the guise of a "more technologically advanced species of aliens" similar to their progeny, seeking to aid them and offer the moral guidance of the Four Precepts if they so wished. The Precursors would refer to them by terms that reflected seniority, such as Ancients or (ironically) Old Ones.
However, a few of these Precursors were not so easily fooled, as those most attuned to the Force could sense that these so called "ancient aliens" were in fact their sacred progenitors, a revelation that was met by some with fear and with honor by others. Those who accepted this revelation with excitement chose to aid their "ancestors" in spreading life and goodwill, the few who were fearful chose to isolate themselves or have nothing to do with them or their fellow Precursors, and those less inclined to the Force remained unaware of the Ancients' true natures, and they either simply saw this as an opportunity and accepted it with optimism or chose not too out of distrust or fear of new technology.
Regardless of initial reactions, the Precursors began to aid each other and spread life to desolate worlds while aiding primitive lifeforms that needed aid or civilization.
The Firstborn consisted of the first 80 species to successfully evolve into sapient life. However a small number of them were advancing at impressive rates, eventually achieving an unprecedented high level of intelligence and the creation of technology. These few, much like their progenitors, would come to be known by many names some of which they shared with the Celestials and Old Ones, as many species could not see the difference between them, with titles such as "Architects" and "Gods", but their most common title were the "Precursors". The Celestials worried these powerful Precursors were advancing too fast and might risk falling to the dark side, causing harm to unevolved species as they finally achieved the means to reach other worlds. So the Celestials appeared before them in the guise of a "more technologically advanced species of aliens" similar to their progeny, seeking to aid them and offer the moral guidance of the Four Precepts if they so wished. The Precursors would refer to them by terms that reflected seniority, such as Ancients or (ironically) Old Ones.
However, a few of these Precursors were not so easily fooled, as those most attuned to the Force could sense that these so called "ancient aliens" were in fact their sacred progenitors, a revelation that was met by some with fear and with honor by others. Those who accepted this revelation with excitement chose to aid their "ancestors" in spreading life and goodwill, the few who were fearful chose to isolate themselves or have nothing to do with them or their fellow Precursors, and those less inclined to the Force remained unaware of the Ancients' true natures, and they either simply saw this as an opportunity and accepted it with optimism or chose not too out of distrust or fear of new technology.
Regardless of initial reactions, the Precursors began to aid each other and spread life to desolate worlds while aiding primitive lifeforms that needed aid or civilization.
The Precursors dedicated themselves to expansion, colonization and helping other Firstborn establish civilizations. And worlds they left their colonies on would end up evolving uniquely into new species of their own. However each species of Precursor naturally had their own way of doing things and their own gifts and ideals to share. The known Precursor races were...
The Whills also known as the Shamans.
I've already detailed much of what they are a few highlights ago, specifically here:
But the sum of it is that they help propagate life on a cellular level and record all of history on behalf of the Celestials in a book referred to as The Journal of the Whills which also dictates prophecies and parables and first referenced in an early draft of A New Hope. Regardless of whether or not they were the first Firstborn, they were definitely the first to achieve apotheosis by becoming one with the Force.
I've already detailed much of what they are a few highlights ago, specifically here:
But the sum of it is that they help propagate life on a cellular level and record all of history on behalf of the Celestials in a book referred to as The Journal of the Whills which also dictates prophecies and parables and first referenced in an early draft of A New Hope. Regardless of whether or not they were the first Firstborn, they were definitely the first to achieve apotheosis by becoming one with the Force.
The C'thol aka the Kathol and later the Fiery Ones.
A mysterious species that resided within the Kathol Rift, a near-endless maze of nebulas that caused all sorts of unusual effects and it is here where the Celestials presumably resided as well during their time as the "Ancients" or before they departed the Galaxy. As such, the C'thol had a special affinity and reverence for the Celestials. The C'thol were the first species to create a form of technology, specifically organic technology (much like that of the Vong but less corrupted), a method they achieved through their intelligence and their abilities within the Force, becoming capable of creating organisms and shaping them into all manner of forms, even creating new species. As such they could be considered the fathers of genetic engineering. They were responsible for being the first to genetically engineer new species into the galaxy, engineering many new lifeforms both sentient and animalistic; presumably many of those that existed within the Kathol Sector of the Galaxy, and possibly beyond. Through their biotechnology, they even created the first means of traveling into hyperspace and by extension other worlds in the form of unstable "Launch Gates", strange technorganic crystalline structures that could open pathways to other planets which they used to expand their influence and colonies and share their knowledge with other Firstborn. They even created a "supercomputer", a gigantic Guardian to serve as the protector of their world from outside threats and who had almost all of the same capabilities as them. However their creation would prove to be their undoing in due time...
Many millennia after their golden age, the "Kathol" had become a pacifistic race, but tragedy would strike when their world was invaded by a powerful Force user and his comrades who had been banished from the ancient Jedi order (identities never revealed but they could be the group or related to the group that first landed on Korriban and became the first Sith). The war was long and harsh, with many of the Kathol's creations fighting to save their creators. Eventually the Jedi discovered what their banished brethren were doing and joined in the fight against them. This dreadful war resulted in the Kathol Rift Disaster where in during the battle, the Kathol Launch Gate was damaged, causing a tremendous shockwave that tore open a pathway into Otherspace (aka Illathurion the realm of the Old Ones), unleashing a deadly dark energy that corrupted the sector, resulting in the destruction of many life forms and the banishment of others into Illathurion. The very few surviving Kathol sought refuge within the "Lifewell", an impenetrable organic crystalline chamber, created long ago during the first coming of the Sith God, Typhojem during the prehistoric wars, as a place of protection that could preserve their forms within the Force without destroying their physical forms, and so they tasked their Guardian to protect the Lifewell until the Kathol Rift was purified once more. However, they were unaware that their Guardian had no intention of ever freeing them, instead it sealed them all within the Lifewell. Now the Guardian could rule the Kathol Sector as a dark god unmatched while its creators decayed. The Guardian was then dubbed "The DarkStryder" and it would create many creatures of its own that would restore life to the Kathol Sector but while also serving as its slaves.
As the centuries went by, the preserved essence of the Kathol became unstable, with the few parts of their spirit that could leave the Lifewell turning into small will-o-wisp-like spirits called Fiery Ones that watched over their forsaken world and gifted their children and the miserable children of the DarkStryder the power of the Force with which they could heal themselves and use unique abilities which their children would dub "Ta-Ree".
Despite the fate of the Kathol, it was quite possible that members of their kind survived on other worlds thanks to their Launch Gates, possibly on the world of Endor...
A mysterious species that resided within the Kathol Rift, a near-endless maze of nebulas that caused all sorts of unusual effects and it is here where the Celestials presumably resided as well during their time as the "Ancients" or before they departed the Galaxy. As such, the C'thol had a special affinity and reverence for the Celestials. The C'thol were the first species to create a form of technology, specifically organic technology (much like that of the Vong but less corrupted), a method they achieved through their intelligence and their abilities within the Force, becoming capable of creating organisms and shaping them into all manner of forms, even creating new species. As such they could be considered the fathers of genetic engineering. They were responsible for being the first to genetically engineer new species into the galaxy, engineering many new lifeforms both sentient and animalistic; presumably many of those that existed within the Kathol Sector of the Galaxy, and possibly beyond. Through their biotechnology, they even created the first means of traveling into hyperspace and by extension other worlds in the form of unstable "Launch Gates", strange technorganic crystalline structures that could open pathways to other planets which they used to expand their influence and colonies and share their knowledge with other Firstborn. They even created a "supercomputer", a gigantic Guardian to serve as the protector of their world from outside threats and who had almost all of the same capabilities as them. However their creation would prove to be their undoing in due time...
Many millennia after their golden age, the "Kathol" had become a pacifistic race, but tragedy would strike when their world was invaded by a powerful Force user and his comrades who had been banished from the ancient Jedi order (identities never revealed but they could be the group or related to the group that first landed on Korriban and became the first Sith). The war was long and harsh, with many of the Kathol's creations fighting to save their creators. Eventually the Jedi discovered what their banished brethren were doing and joined in the fight against them. This dreadful war resulted in the Kathol Rift Disaster where in during the battle, the Kathol Launch Gate was damaged, causing a tremendous shockwave that tore open a pathway into Otherspace (aka Illathurion the realm of the Old Ones), unleashing a deadly dark energy that corrupted the sector, resulting in the destruction of many life forms and the banishment of others into Illathurion. The very few surviving Kathol sought refuge within the "Lifewell", an impenetrable organic crystalline chamber, created long ago during the first coming of the Sith God, Typhojem during the prehistoric wars, as a place of protection that could preserve their forms within the Force without destroying their physical forms, and so they tasked their Guardian to protect the Lifewell until the Kathol Rift was purified once more. However, they were unaware that their Guardian had no intention of ever freeing them, instead it sealed them all within the Lifewell. Now the Guardian could rule the Kathol Sector as a dark god unmatched while its creators decayed. The Guardian was then dubbed "The DarkStryder" and it would create many creatures of its own that would restore life to the Kathol Sector but while also serving as its slaves.
As the centuries went by, the preserved essence of the Kathol became unstable, with the few parts of their spirit that could leave the Lifewell turning into small will-o-wisp-like spirits called Fiery Ones that watched over their forsaken world and gifted their children and the miserable children of the DarkStryder the power of the Force with which they could heal themselves and use unique abilities which their children would dub "Ta-Ree".
Despite the fate of the Kathol, it was quite possible that members of their kind survived on other worlds thanks to their Launch Gates, possibly on the world of Endor...
The Gree.
The Gree were undoubtedly the most calculating and technologically advanced of the Firstborn. They (along with a rival species) were the fathers of technology and science which proved more effective than the means of other precursors like the Kathol, being the creators of the first form of primitive automatons, computers and interplanetary travel which they shared with a few of their fellow Firstborn in the hopes of encouraging the trade of goods and knowledge. The early transports were known as the Hypergates, a superior version of the Kathols' Launch Gates and were the first attempt at entering hyperspace before hyperdrive-run ships were created.
They were even the creators of the devices that would inspire the creation of the Holocrons used by Sith and Jedi. They even managed to learn genetic engineering, although it is unknown what manner of things they would create or if they would even be as successful as the Kathols' creations. The Gree were a truly alien lot whose language and behavior revolved around colors and angles. They also had a strict rule about not interfering too much in primitive societies or sharing technology unless a primitive society had the means of making it themselves. Instead they ruled several worlds via a delicate touch and their empire would come to be known as the Gree Enclave. Their technology was so great, that when the Old Ones returned, the Gree were able to use their hypergates to seal away some of the Dark Gods back where they came from, proving just how formidable the Gree had become even without the Force or achieving apotheosis yet, resulting in them being favored by the Celestials as one of their key architects for the advancement of life. This peace would not last though for after one of their fellow Firstborn misused the Gree's technology and unintentionally created a terrible empire with it, the Gree went to war against these "traitors". The end result was the Gree ending their expansionist and helpful ways, closing off the borders of their territories from the rest of the galaxy for thousands of years to come. Eventually their descendants would lose track of their past as they went through their own dark ages, and around 3000 years before the Battle of Yavin they began communicating with the rest of the galaxy again, although on a limited basis, but their technology still remained ahead of the curve despite their own fall from grace.
The Gree were undoubtedly the most calculating and technologically advanced of the Firstborn. They (along with a rival species) were the fathers of technology and science which proved more effective than the means of other precursors like the Kathol, being the creators of the first form of primitive automatons, computers and interplanetary travel which they shared with a few of their fellow Firstborn in the hopes of encouraging the trade of goods and knowledge. The early transports were known as the Hypergates, a superior version of the Kathols' Launch Gates and were the first attempt at entering hyperspace before hyperdrive-run ships were created.
They were even the creators of the devices that would inspire the creation of the Holocrons used by Sith and Jedi. They even managed to learn genetic engineering, although it is unknown what manner of things they would create or if they would even be as successful as the Kathols' creations. The Gree were a truly alien lot whose language and behavior revolved around colors and angles. They also had a strict rule about not interfering too much in primitive societies or sharing technology unless a primitive society had the means of making it themselves. Instead they ruled several worlds via a delicate touch and their empire would come to be known as the Gree Enclave. Their technology was so great, that when the Old Ones returned, the Gree were able to use their hypergates to seal away some of the Dark Gods back where they came from, proving just how formidable the Gree had become even without the Force or achieving apotheosis yet, resulting in them being favored by the Celestials as one of their key architects for the advancement of life. This peace would not last though for after one of their fellow Firstborn misused the Gree's technology and unintentionally created a terrible empire with it, the Gree went to war against these "traitors". The end result was the Gree ending their expansionist and helpful ways, closing off the borders of their territories from the rest of the galaxy for thousands of years to come. Eventually their descendants would lose track of their past as they went through their own dark ages, and around 3000 years before the Battle of Yavin they began communicating with the rest of the galaxy again, although on a limited basis, but their technology still remained ahead of the curve despite their own fall from grace.
The Columi.
They were one of the most technologically gifted of the Firstborn and quite possibly the first to establish a basic technological Earth-tier society while many other species were still crawling out of the mud (or so they claim). They (along with a rival species) were the fathers of technology, being the creators of the first computers, the first real droids and the first primitive starships, they may have even invented some of these things before the Gree. But what is certain is that they are the fathers of Droids, a technology they would sell to others at insane prices. As they were the first to achieve space travel (without hyperdrive or hypergates), they were the first to see the early galaxy, and suffice it to say THIS was their reaction... Every planet that was close enough to their own was a piece of crap in their eyes. Planets were either uninhabitable, had gravity that was too much for their puny asses and every species they came across was a dumbass caveman in their eyes unworthy of their big brained conversations. So the disappointed Columi went back home and they became galactic NEETs and circlejerk'd each other from then on. They were so disgusted by their neighboring worlds that they swore to never do physical activities again, seeing it as the thing of barbarians, instead dedicating themselves to mental activities and having their droids do all the work, like taking care of them or taking resources from other planets. After countless centuries of this, their bodies shriveled up and they became true big brained arch-fedoralords. They also apparently had some sort of tie to certain galactic demons like the Molators of Alderaan and even Cacodemons (yes you read that right, Cacodemons are a thing thanks to the Columi). Either that or people saw the Columi to be just as fucked up as demons.
When the Gree finally showed up, the Columi told them and their hypergates to fuck off (but they stole their hypertech anyway and claimed they invented it and used it to steal more shit they took credit for). Then the Celestials decided to intervene to warn them about the Twilight Wars, the Columi were pissed at finding out creatures better than they existed, so they closed their planet off completely, never leaving their safespace again, and no one would talk to them because they were assholes, but they then decided to take credit for what the Celestials did because why not. Because of this, they gained a closer affinity with their droids than other sentients, to the point where Columi developed the ability to control technology with their minds. Despite their isolationism, they would still trade goods with the rest of the galaxy simply because they saw any tech they traded away for some galactic porno as leftover garbage that would please the "stupids" of the galaxy. Thousands of years later the Empire showed up to conquer them, but the Columi gave them sweet new tech and a few dumber Columi to help them with their science in exchange for leaving them the fuck alone. After the fall of the Empire and the Vong, they also toyed with the idea of conquering the Galaxy with their own slimy shapeshifters which they made using technology they stole from the Vong. In short, they were cold and calculating super geniuses who invented the first droids, they were also lazy as fuck and were effectively the FIRST ASSHOLES. Honestly my favorite species.
They were one of the most technologically gifted of the Firstborn and quite possibly the first to establish a basic technological Earth-tier society while many other species were still crawling out of the mud (or so they claim). They (along with a rival species) were the fathers of technology, being the creators of the first computers, the first real droids and the first primitive starships, they may have even invented some of these things before the Gree. But what is certain is that they are the fathers of Droids, a technology they would sell to others at insane prices. As they were the first to achieve space travel (without hyperdrive or hypergates), they were the first to see the early galaxy, and suffice it to say THIS was their reaction... Every planet that was close enough to their own was a piece of crap in their eyes. Planets were either uninhabitable, had gravity that was too much for their puny asses and every species they came across was a dumbass caveman in their eyes unworthy of their big brained conversations. So the disappointed Columi went back home and they became galactic NEETs and circlejerk'd each other from then on. They were so disgusted by their neighboring worlds that they swore to never do physical activities again, seeing it as the thing of barbarians, instead dedicating themselves to mental activities and having their droids do all the work, like taking care of them or taking resources from other planets. After countless centuries of this, their bodies shriveled up and they became true big brained arch-fedoralords. They also apparently had some sort of tie to certain galactic demons like the Molators of Alderaan and even Cacodemons (yes you read that right, Cacodemons are a thing thanks to the Columi). Either that or people saw the Columi to be just as fucked up as demons.
When the Gree finally showed up, the Columi told them and their hypergates to fuck off (but they stole their hypertech anyway and claimed they invented it and used it to steal more shit they took credit for). Then the Celestials decided to intervene to warn them about the Twilight Wars, the Columi were pissed at finding out creatures better than they existed, so they closed their planet off completely, never leaving their safespace again, and no one would talk to them because they were assholes, but they then decided to take credit for what the Celestials did because why not. Because of this, they gained a closer affinity with their droids than other sentients, to the point where Columi developed the ability to control technology with their minds. Despite their isolationism, they would still trade goods with the rest of the galaxy simply because they saw any tech they traded away for some galactic porno as leftover garbage that would please the "stupids" of the galaxy. Thousands of years later the Empire showed up to conquer them, but the Columi gave them sweet new tech and a few dumber Columi to help them with their science in exchange for leaving them the fuck alone. After the fall of the Empire and the Vong, they also toyed with the idea of conquering the Galaxy with their own slimy shapeshifters which they made using technology they stole from the Vong. In short, they were cold and calculating super geniuses who invented the first droids, they were also lazy as fuck and were effectively the FIRST ASSHOLES. Honestly my favorite species.
The Kwa.
A race of blue-skinned saurians of great compassion and wisdom from the planet Dathomir (future homeworld of the Rancors and Dathomir Witches). They were the fathers of philosophy, theology, laws and self-defense, effectively being the precursors that would help lead the way to the founding of the Jedi Order and the Galactic Republic... as well as the Sith and Empire. Naturally it was their way and teachings which had the most profound and widespread impact on the Galaxy, making them truly the most influential Precursors. They were also the creators of many unique technologies of their own, including the legendary Tho Yor space arks. They were the most dedicated servants of the Celestials' goals and one of the few outside of the Kathol and the Aing-Tii to be truly aware of their nature. They traveled to as many worlds as they could to teach all lifeforms about science, philosophy, civilization, and the Force (which they called the Power of the Cosmos) and how it unites them all, and to uninhabited worlds they would bring new life from other worlds or of their own making much like the Kathol. They even copied the Gree's Hypergate technology and made their own more advanced and efficient portals called the Infinity Gates (this angered the Gree, who saw this as a gross misuse of their gate technology... and it was also a copyright infringement).
Unlike the Gree, the Kwa wanted to share everything with everyone, believing in compassion and understanding, regardless of a species' development, instead believing that any could be taught, a notion which the less emotional Gree would come to loath. Sadly their desire to help and advance others would end up causing more suffering untold suffering when they shared their ways with a vicious species that only knew of cruelty, destruction and deception... They fought their pupils and won (for the moment), but still grew to be loathed by their comrades the Gree, and so the Kwa exiled themselves back to their homeworld of Dathomir were they abandoned all technology, hoping to never cause suffering again, but a few others chose to do one last bit of good for the Galaxy on a world they would call Tython to prepare future generations against the evil they created should it ever return by giving them the knowledge and technology they would need to survive. After their emergency plan was completed, all Kwa returned to Dathomir to fade away in shame, eventually degenerating into primitive wild animals...
Despite their fates, it was this desire for redemption and their planning that inevitably lead to the foundation of the Jedi and freeing the Galaxy from a new dark age. In short, they were everything the Columi weren't. Also they were seemingly replaced in Disney shit by these flat-headed freaks from Fallen Order who even hung out on their old turf of Dathomir...
A race of blue-skinned saurians of great compassion and wisdom from the planet Dathomir (future homeworld of the Rancors and Dathomir Witches). They were the fathers of philosophy, theology, laws and self-defense, effectively being the precursors that would help lead the way to the founding of the Jedi Order and the Galactic Republic... as well as the Sith and Empire. Naturally it was their way and teachings which had the most profound and widespread impact on the Galaxy, making them truly the most influential Precursors. They were also the creators of many unique technologies of their own, including the legendary Tho Yor space arks. They were the most dedicated servants of the Celestials' goals and one of the few outside of the Kathol and the Aing-Tii to be truly aware of their nature. They traveled to as many worlds as they could to teach all lifeforms about science, philosophy, civilization, and the Force (which they called the Power of the Cosmos) and how it unites them all, and to uninhabited worlds they would bring new life from other worlds or of their own making much like the Kathol. They even copied the Gree's Hypergate technology and made their own more advanced and efficient portals called the Infinity Gates (this angered the Gree, who saw this as a gross misuse of their gate technology... and it was also a copyright infringement).
Unlike the Gree, the Kwa wanted to share everything with everyone, believing in compassion and understanding, regardless of a species' development, instead believing that any could be taught, a notion which the less emotional Gree would come to loath. Sadly their desire to help and advance others would end up causing more suffering untold suffering when they shared their ways with a vicious species that only knew of cruelty, destruction and deception... They fought their pupils and won (for the moment), but still grew to be loathed by their comrades the Gree, and so the Kwa exiled themselves back to their homeworld of Dathomir were they abandoned all technology, hoping to never cause suffering again, but a few others chose to do one last bit of good for the Galaxy on a world they would call Tython to prepare future generations against the evil they created should it ever return by giving them the knowledge and technology they would need to survive. After their emergency plan was completed, all Kwa returned to Dathomir to fade away in shame, eventually degenerating into primitive wild animals...
Despite their fates, it was this desire for redemption and their planning that inevitably lead to the foundation of the Jedi and freeing the Galaxy from a new dark age. In short, they were everything the Columi weren't. Also they were seemingly replaced in Disney shit by these flat-headed freaks from Fallen Order who even hung out on their old turf of Dathomir...
The Killiks aka The Kind.
The original inhabitants of Alderaan (then known as Oroboro), the Killiks were an industrious insectoid species capable of building magnificent structures. The Killiks specialized in "architecture", building not only magnificent mountain-like hives, but even entire regions and even whole planets. They achieved this thanks to the Killik nests existing as a single Hivemind working together towards a common cause, effectively making each Killik hive a single entity with multiple bodies, so in a way through their hivemind, they achieved a mental apotheosis. Making them the most calculating and industrious species in the Galaxy and the Architects of many worlds. Unlike the other Precursors who either acted on their own accord or spread life as the Celestials intended, the Killiks worked directly under the three Celestials known as the Mortis Gods. Fashioning many worlds and even systems for them, creating titanic tractor beams such as the World Puller (or "Qolaraloq" as they called it) so that future generations could one day move and fashion worlds on their own once the Celestials had left.
With use of the World Puller, the Killiks and the Mortis Gods were the creators of the Corellian System, populating it with three primitive species from different worlds, Drell, Solenians and Humans, possibly to see how three foreign species would interact if introduced into alien environments. The three species were able to co-exist peacefully and explore space faster than anticipated, and suffice it to say the Mortis Gods were happy with the results. Later, it was the Killiks who would go on to create new planets out of the remains of the Sith God Typhojem after the great wars with the Old Ones had ended, they even fended off the Infinite Empire when they came to Oroboro, and later on the they would seal away the Sith Goddess Abeloth with the aid of the Celestials, making the Killiks the most formidable of the Precursors thanks to their raw power and vast numbers. After the great threats had been dealt with, the Celestials left the Galaxy once more, leaving the Killik hivemind and allowing them to build their own future. However without the Celestials' influence, the Killiks became aimless, ravenous even, going on to conquer worlds and consume their resources, actions which put the entire galaxy in danger thanks to the World Puller, forcing the Celestials to return and cast down the Killiks. With the Killiks defeated, they abandoned Oroboro (allowing Humans to take control and name it Alderaan) and made an exodus into the Unknown Regions were they would contemplate their existence and purpose in exile.
They have all but disappeared from SW in Disney canon, even their hives in Aladdin's Rebels are just rocks now or jedi-made according to Disney info.
The original inhabitants of Alderaan (then known as Oroboro), the Killiks were an industrious insectoid species capable of building magnificent structures. The Killiks specialized in "architecture", building not only magnificent mountain-like hives, but even entire regions and even whole planets. They achieved this thanks to the Killik nests existing as a single Hivemind working together towards a common cause, effectively making each Killik hive a single entity with multiple bodies, so in a way through their hivemind, they achieved a mental apotheosis. Making them the most calculating and industrious species in the Galaxy and the Architects of many worlds. Unlike the other Precursors who either acted on their own accord or spread life as the Celestials intended, the Killiks worked directly under the three Celestials known as the Mortis Gods. Fashioning many worlds and even systems for them, creating titanic tractor beams such as the World Puller (or "Qolaraloq" as they called it) so that future generations could one day move and fashion worlds on their own once the Celestials had left.
With use of the World Puller, the Killiks and the Mortis Gods were the creators of the Corellian System, populating it with three primitive species from different worlds, Drell, Solenians and Humans, possibly to see how three foreign species would interact if introduced into alien environments. The three species were able to co-exist peacefully and explore space faster than anticipated, and suffice it to say the Mortis Gods were happy with the results. Later, it was the Killiks who would go on to create new planets out of the remains of the Sith God Typhojem after the great wars with the Old Ones had ended, they even fended off the Infinite Empire when they came to Oroboro, and later on the they would seal away the Sith Goddess Abeloth with the aid of the Celestials, making the Killiks the most formidable of the Precursors thanks to their raw power and vast numbers. After the great threats had been dealt with, the Celestials left the Galaxy once more, leaving the Killik hivemind and allowing them to build their own future. However without the Celestials' influence, the Killiks became aimless, ravenous even, going on to conquer worlds and consume their resources, actions which put the entire galaxy in danger thanks to the World Puller, forcing the Celestials to return and cast down the Killiks. With the Killiks defeated, they abandoned Oroboro (allowing Humans to take control and name it Alderaan) and made an exodus into the Unknown Regions were they would contemplate their existence and purpose in exile.
They have all but disappeared from SW in Disney canon, even their hives in Aladdin's Rebels are just rocks now or jedi-made according to Disney info.
The Aing-Tii.
These strange travelers were brilliant navigators from the Kathol Rift dedicated themselves to achieving whole enlightenment and understanding everything they could about the Force. They were said to be the first to learn how move objects with the Force and were the creators of some of the most unconventional and powerful Force abilities which could potentially drive other species mad, and they discovered as many new techniques as they could and as many uses for the Force as well, even as a source of energy. When they first came across the "Ancients", they were one of the few to realize who they truly were much to their delight, referring to them as "Those Who Dwell Beyond the Veil". The Aing-Tii held a great contempt for imprisonment and slavery, believing this to be against the will of Ancients desire to see life spread. Despite these seemingly benevolent traits, their morality could be a bit skewed due to not believing in simpler notions of light/dark and good/evil, resulting in them often committing questionable acts if they thought it was for a greater good. Considering that they only operated and taught those within the Kathol Rift, it was quite possible that they were first creations of the Kathol but that was never confirmed. They were also responsible for teaching Jacen Solo the techniques that would cause him to fall to the Dark Side.
They were recently recanonized in Disney shit, and Plan IX copied many of their abilities for Kylo Ren and Rey but with none of the drawbacks and no fucking limits. And Hidalgo also implied that they had a hand in creating IX's macguffin...
These strange travelers were brilliant navigators from the Kathol Rift dedicated themselves to achieving whole enlightenment and understanding everything they could about the Force. They were said to be the first to learn how move objects with the Force and were the creators of some of the most unconventional and powerful Force abilities which could potentially drive other species mad, and they discovered as many new techniques as they could and as many uses for the Force as well, even as a source of energy. When they first came across the "Ancients", they were one of the few to realize who they truly were much to their delight, referring to them as "Those Who Dwell Beyond the Veil". The Aing-Tii held a great contempt for imprisonment and slavery, believing this to be against the will of Ancients desire to see life spread. Despite these seemingly benevolent traits, their morality could be a bit skewed due to not believing in simpler notions of light/dark and good/evil, resulting in them often committing questionable acts if they thought it was for a greater good. Considering that they only operated and taught those within the Kathol Rift, it was quite possible that they were first creations of the Kathol but that was never confirmed. They were also responsible for teaching Jacen Solo the techniques that would cause him to fall to the Dark Side.
They were recently recanonized in Disney shit, and Plan IX copied many of their abilities for Kylo Ren and Rey but with none of the drawbacks and no fucking limits. And Hidalgo also implied that they had a hand in creating IX's macguffin...
The Mu-Ab.
A starfish-like species and one of the few truly aware of the Celestials and loyal to their cause. They were the creators of the first droids with sapient AIs, the Silentium (pictured above), having understood the nature of life after interacting with the Celestials. Their droids could think and act much like living creatures, and this system would be copied by other species, thus allowing droids to take on unique personality traits and mentally evolve (that was until the restraining bolts and memory wipes were invented to make sure they didn't get any ideas). So while the Columi could be considered the fathers of Droid technology, the Mu-Ab may be considered the creators of their minds. The Mu-Ab would be the First of the Precursors to fall to extinction after they were destroyed by the first droids of destruction created by those with evil intent, but their droid creations would carry on their legacy and achieve a form of artificial apotheosis, swearing to combat the evil that destroyed their beloved and kindhearted creators. Sadly the Silentium would unwillingly spread fear and war to other worlds in their quest for vengeance against the mechanical abominations, a war which would take them to other galaxies and cause untold harm for centuries, wars which would lead to the birth of the Yuuzhan Vong and their hatred of technology.
A starfish-like species and one of the few truly aware of the Celestials and loyal to their cause. They were the creators of the first droids with sapient AIs, the Silentium (pictured above), having understood the nature of life after interacting with the Celestials. Their droids could think and act much like living creatures, and this system would be copied by other species, thus allowing droids to take on unique personality traits and mentally evolve (that was until the restraining bolts and memory wipes were invented to make sure they didn't get any ideas). So while the Columi could be considered the fathers of Droid technology, the Mu-Ab may be considered the creators of their minds. The Mu-Ab would be the First of the Precursors to fall to extinction after they were destroyed by the first droids of destruction created by those with evil intent, but their droid creations would carry on their legacy and achieve a form of artificial apotheosis, swearing to combat the evil that destroyed their beloved and kindhearted creators. Sadly the Silentium would unwillingly spread fear and war to other worlds in their quest for vengeance against the mechanical abominations, a war which would take them to other galaxies and cause untold harm for centuries, wars which would lead to the birth of the Yuuzhan Vong and their hatred of technology.
The Indur.
The native Indur of Endor shared much in common with the Kathol, with both species being masters of creating life (with some of their creations being genetically similar to those of the Kathol) and the greatest proof of all was the Endor Gate, a mysterious wormhole opened long ago near Endor similar to the portals opened by past Launch Gates. The Indur adored nature and the wonders of their forest moon, but instead chose to never expand or leave their beloved world unlike the expansionist Kathol. But like the Kathol, they forged their own children from the animals of Endor after receiving a vision of evils to come, creating the forest tribes, the swamp tribes, the mountain tribes, the valley tribes, the giant tribes and others to protect Endor should the Indur ever be destroyed. During the Twilight Wars their vision had become reality with the return of the Old Ones. Endor was invaded by two of these beings, Tharagorrogaraht the Night Spirit, its "daughter" Griagh, Queen of the Night Spirit and their horde of minions who sought to make Endor their own kingdom, even seducing the swamp tribes and giant tribes into serving them. In the end the Indur were victorious with the aid of their clever and faithful progeny, banishing the Night Spirit and sealing its daughter Griagh beneath Endor, a task which would require all their might to achieve. So with what little time they had left, the Indur created "Monitors" to watch over and aid their children, and then they used the last of their life energy to become one with Endor's trees to complete the seal upon Griagh. But that was not their end, for fragments of their spirits would be reborn as a new race of Fiery creatures the forest tribes would come to know as the Firefolk.
The native Indur of Endor shared much in common with the Kathol, with both species being masters of creating life (with some of their creations being genetically similar to those of the Kathol) and the greatest proof of all was the Endor Gate, a mysterious wormhole opened long ago near Endor similar to the portals opened by past Launch Gates. The Indur adored nature and the wonders of their forest moon, but instead chose to never expand or leave their beloved world unlike the expansionist Kathol. But like the Kathol, they forged their own children from the animals of Endor after receiving a vision of evils to come, creating the forest tribes, the swamp tribes, the mountain tribes, the valley tribes, the giant tribes and others to protect Endor should the Indur ever be destroyed. During the Twilight Wars their vision had become reality with the return of the Old Ones. Endor was invaded by two of these beings, Tharagorrogaraht the Night Spirit, its "daughter" Griagh, Queen of the Night Spirit and their horde of minions who sought to make Endor their own kingdom, even seducing the swamp tribes and giant tribes into serving them. In the end the Indur were victorious with the aid of their clever and faithful progeny, banishing the Night Spirit and sealing its daughter Griagh beneath Endor, a task which would require all their might to achieve. So with what little time they had left, the Indur created "Monitors" to watch over and aid their children, and then they used the last of their life energy to become one with Endor's trees to complete the seal upon Griagh. But that was not their end, for fragments of their spirits would be reborn as a new race of Fiery creatures the forest tribes would come to know as the Firefolk.
[when the shitposting stops]
Regardless, out of the ones mentioned above, only the Whills, Kathol (partially), Gree, Columi, Aing-Tii and Indur (partially) were recanonized in Disney shit, with the Kwa and Killiks being all but replaced or axed, but the Columi are thankfully still assholes at least. One of them is probably bound to show up in High Republic, possibly the Killiks. Either that or Disney will just make another crappy donut steal, but then again its already been confirmed that Disney pretty much just copied Dark Empire, Last Command and Chuck Wendig's awful book for Plan IX, so they might use more source material and I can only dread as to how they'll cuck it up:
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@GeneralFriendliness You mentioned in this thread before that the Filoni Wars finale and midichlorians made you suspect George Lucas dabbled in scientology at some point. Can you elaborate on that? Did his concept for midichlorians change in the time between TPM and his interview in James Cameron's Story of Science Fiction, (where he says they are a link to the force and not the force itself)?
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As far as nuWars goes that art is decent. At least it isn't like the main Star Wars comics where they took screenshots of the movie, slapped a filter on them, and touched up a bit (often causing agonizingly bizarre faces on the characters).
It's a lost opportunity for a plot. Han Solo does something stupid and gets the Millennium Falcon stolen by a valet and he now must chase the thief to get his ship back. Except it turns out the thief is working for some elite crime boss and Han's just stumbled into some massive conspiracy.
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So RJ apparently never test screened TLJ to audiences. Kinda winded if he did with executives or not.
screenrant.com
Rian Johnson Wanted To Test Screen The Last Jedi
Johnson was able to do so for Knives Out.
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Maybe he should have screen tested everyone's Snoke theories before he said they sucked.
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eh, me3 fell apart right from the start. infiltration sexbot straight out of austin powers to give the ship a sexy body, hilariously blatant deus ex mcguffin that made no sense, suddenly MUH EARTH (because reasons), whole plot being stupid with shepard fucking off doing other shit while earth gets reaper-banged, doing all that shit at the end while there is a space battle going on (all the reapers had to do was to fucking kamikaze the mcguffin and it would be game over, especially since they already knew about it), that fucking PTSD subplot...
in that regard it's much closer to TROS, while TFA was shit too at least it was salvageable. and not to defend that shitheap TLJ, even that was salvageable. but instead of taking their heads out of their asses disney doubled down on it, and look where we are.
as for anthem, I mentioned it before (dunno here or another thread), but it's actually fine (now at least), especially in the parts that matter like gameplay - because naturally me3 also had shit gameplay with bulletsponges, and whoever thought hardbinding 3 actions on the same fucking key meaning you can't even split it on pc needs to gtfo from game design.
to bring it back to star wars, they made a lot of things right in anthem regarding universe and story similar to ANH by just giving you enough details and info to fill the rest with your own headcanon and to make it easier to accept as it is - no retarded "fixing the lore" or autisticly explaining lorebits no one gives a shit about or which are explained from context already. but then bioware had a rare lucid moment and was smart enough to hire karpyshyn again which probably reigned in the tard writers so the worst part are the dialogs and NPCs but it doesn't shit on everything or outright breaking it.
even without the post-modern crap most stuff would be shit since everything is filled with hack writers thinking they're smarter than they are (the sherlock "smart people are wizards" /tv/ pasta describes it perfectly). whatever they'd shit out it would be inevitably shit since they're too dumb with zero talent to even pull off a bedtime story. and while people like that have always existed and could even be entertaining in some regards, the real mindboggler is that these people are now handed the reigns of multi-billion dollar franchises with zero oversight or people signing off on that shit.
So RJ apparently never test screened TLJ to audiences. Kinda winded if he did with executives or not.
Rian Johnson Wanted To Test Screen The Last Jedi
Johnson was able to do so for Knives Out.
that frigging hilarious, especially since disney and hollywood in general doesn't release anything without screenings to get the best audience reaction, and has been doing so for years. ruin johnson must've been a helluva sub for KK to pull that off, wouldn't be surprised if he'd literally lost his balls in the process.
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I don't think we're doomed to have stupid people as the only writers media companies will use forever. The problem is right now you need to either have or being willing to bow to SJW beliefs to get the jobs. That doesn't attract smart people. It attracts people who are either dumb enough to buy into the group think or just clever enough to know pretending to buy into it can get them promotions they can't earn with their talent.
It's perfectly possible to make a movie that promotes positive values that doesn't come off as propaganda, but the SJW movement demands direct rather than symbolic messages. It demands a lack of nuance in the enemy. It demands a perfect protagonist. It demands things that make it very difficult for a any writer, skilled or a hack, to finally get down to the business of telling a good story because so many other priorities are placed before that goal. I think if you get rid of the need for the post-modern crap it immediately makes it a lot easier for the writers to do their jobs.
It's perfectly possible to make a movie that promotes positive values that doesn't come off as propaganda, but the SJW movement demands direct rather than symbolic messages. It demands a lack of nuance in the enemy. It demands a perfect protagonist. It demands things that make it very difficult for a any writer, skilled or a hack, to finally get down to the business of telling a good story because so many other priorities are placed before that goal. I think if you get rid of the need for the post-modern crap it immediately makes it a lot easier for the writers to do their jobs.
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Any theory would've been better than what we actually got.
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I've always had a soft spot for the Gree and Kwa, and how they rose and stagnated/degenerated due to their actions regardless of their intentions. I would've loved more stories about these species pre-Disney, especially about a partial restoration/resurgence like with the Sharu. It's a shame the Kwa and their wonderful design and past technologies were kicked to the curb in Fallen Order over those reject Greys with heads flattened by a frying pan. The Columi were always a treat to read about, but I fear the Rat will ruin them and their smug NEETness that made them such a fun species of assholes to read about. The Whills I've always been conflicted about considering their nature. Something about them just irks me, and I've longed desired a tale (which definitely won't happen now, or the it might and it'll be assbackwards courtesy of the Rat) that saw their position be challenged/threatened by an outside force. And again, General, yet another fine assemblage of work!The Gree.
The Gree were undoubtedly the most calculating and technologically advanced of the Firstborn. They (along with a rival species) were the fathers of technology and science which proved more effective than the means of other precursors like the Kathol, being the creators of the first form of primitive automatons, computers and interplanetary travel which they shared with a few of their fellow Firstborn in the hopes of encouraging the trade of goods and knowledge. The early transports were known as the Hypergates, a superior version of the Kathols' Launch Gates and were the first attempt at entering hyperspace before hyperdrive-run ships were created.
They were even the creators of the devices that would inspire the creation of the Holocrons used by Sith and Jedi. They even managed to learn genetic engineering, although it is unknown what manner of things they would create or if they would even be as successful as the Kathols' creations. The Gree were a truly alien lot whose language and behavior revolved around colors and angles. They also had a strict rule about not interfering too much in primitive societies or sharing technology unless a primitive society had the means of making it themselves. Instead they ruled several worlds via a delicate touch and their empire would come to be known as the Gree Enclave. Their technology was so great, that when the Old Ones returned, the Gree were able to use their hypergates to seal away some of the Dark Gods back where they came from, proving just how formidable the Gree had become even without the Force or achieving apotheosis yet, resulting in them being favored by the Celestials as one of their key architects for the advancement of life. This peace would not last though for after one of their fellow Firstborn misused the Gree's technology and unintentionally created a terrible empire with it, the Gree went to war against these "traitors". The end result was the Gree ending their expansionist and helpful ways, closing off the borders of their territories from the rest of the galaxy for thousands of years to come. Eventually their descendants would lose track of their past as they went through their own dark ages, and around 3000 years before the Battle of Yavin they began communicating with the rest of the galaxy again, although on a limited basis, but their technology still remained ahead of the curve despite their own fall from grace.The Columi.
They were one of the most technologically gifted of the Firstborn and quite possibly the first to establish a basic technological Earth-tier society while many other species were still crawling out of the mud (or so they claim). They (along with a rival species) were the fathers of technology, being the creators of the first computers, the first real droids and the first primitive starships, they may have even invented some of these things before the Gree. But what is certain is that they are the fathers of Droids, a technology they would sell to others at insane prices. As they were the first to achieve space travel (without hyperdrive or hypergates), they were the first to see the early galaxy, and suffice it to say THIS was their reaction... Every planet that was close enough to their own was a piece of crap in their eyes. Planets were either uninhabitable, had gravity that was too much for their puny asses and every species they came across was a dumbass caveman in their eyes unworthy of their big brained conversations. So the disappointed Columi went back home and they became galactic NEETs and circlejerk'd each other from then on. They were so disgusted by their neighboring worlds that they swore to never do physical activities again, seeing it as the thing of barbarians, instead dedicating themselves to mental activities and having their droids do all the work, like taking care of them or taking resources from other planets. After countless centuries of this, their bodies shriveled up and they became true big brained arch-fedoralords. They also apparently had some sort of tie to certain galactic demons like the Molators of Alderaan and even Cacodemons (yes you read that right, Cacodemons are a thing thanks to the Columi). Either that or people saw the Columi to be just as fucked up as demons.
When the Gree finally showed up, the Columi told them and their hypergates to fuck off (but they stole their hypertech anyway and claimed they invented it and used it to steal more shit they took credit for). Then the Celestials decided to intervene to warn them about the Twilight Wars, the Columi were pissed at finding out creatures better than they existed, so they closed their planet off completely, never leaving their safespace again, and no one would talk to them because they were assholes, but they then decided to take credit for what the Celestials did because why not. Because of this, they gained a closer affinity with their droids than other sentients, to the point where Columi developed the ability to control technology with their minds. Despite their isolationism, they would still trade goods with the rest of the galaxy simply because they saw any tech they traded away for some galactic porno as leftover garbage that would please the "stupids" of the galaxy. Thousands of years later the Empire showed up to conquer them, but the Columi gave them sweet new tech and a few dumber Columi to help them with their science in exchange for leaving them the fuck alone. After the fall of the Empire and the Vong, they also toyed with the idea of conquering the Galaxy with their own slimy shapeshifters which they made using technology they stole from the Vong. In short, they were cold and calculating super geniuses who invented the first droids, they were also lazy as fuck and were effectively the FIRST ASSHOLES. Honestly my favorite species.undefined
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So RJ apparently never test screened TLJ to audiences. Kinda winded if he did with executives or not.
Rian Johnson Wanted To Test Screen The Last Jedi
Johnson was able to do so for Knives Out.
I don't know if it would've helped. It took me 3 days after viewing it to really get worked up about TLJ to the point where I hated it and was able to articulate why. Immediately after viewing it, which is when a test audience gives answers, I was just kind of stunned and thought I missed something.
Test screenings could've pointed out the big stuff immediately--bombers were stupid, Rose's line about sacrifice was stupid, the Holdo Maneuver broke the universe--but I don't know how much you could fix in a film. You can take out Rose's line easily enough, but how do you cut the bombers? Could you do enough re-shoots to not make Holdo an irredeemable bitch?
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The ending is nothing compared to the entire ME3 game. That said, the franchise died with ME2 when they streamlined the story, the powers, the weapons, the gameplay. They could have fixed the issues of the first game (make a better UI, inventory system, vehicles, planet exploration, instead they decided to remove all of that. Also it didn't help that they RianJohnsoned the story by killing the main protagonist in the prologue.
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I will play devil's advocate and say that even at its worst, ME 3 was still miles better than current bioware games and movies. And killing Shep at the beginning of two was just to justify turning him/her from a human to a borderline demi-god that can headbutt krogan like its nothing. Sure, there could have been other ways but I just cant dislike the trilogy because of the really good stuff they have. You will never find someone making a sci-fi universe take off like ME did nowadays (and yes, I know there are some like The Expanse but it didnt reach ME levels where people are actively speculating the next entry in the trilogy like its a cinematic event akin to Star Wars)
Tho this isnt a ME thread so...
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Maybe the Kwa will be put in the High Republic because you know dinosaurs.
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Disney's credit has been downgraded thanks to the corona outbreak.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
Disney's Credit Rating Downgraded by Fitch Over Virus Impact
The firm says the pandemic "will materially weaken Disney's operating and credit profile over the near term."
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Disney's credit has been downgraded thanks to the corona outbreak.
Disney's Credit Rating Downgraded by Fitch Over Virus Impact
The firm says the pandemic "will materially weaken Disney's operating and credit profile over the near term."
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I don't wanna jump the gun just yet, but if Disney's stock fall will continue, they maybe soon up for grabs.
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Alright! I read chapters 4-10 and it was the longest 80 pages of my life.
First off mechanics:
1) Maybe I'm just an elitist, but I hate how she uses synonyms for "said" after every bit of dialogue. Writers often think this makes it more vivid, it doesn't, it just clogs your work up. There's a lot of "he said" "she retorted" "they shouted together" "she insisted persisantly" and things like that.
2) There's way too much telling and not enough showing. It's Brian Herbert (of McDune) levels of bad. She tells us what characters are feeling and how they look instead of manipulating dialogue or wording to show us. Obviously exposition is necessary sometimes, especially when there aren't two characters to hold dialogue with, but it shouldn't be your prime literary technique!
Story things that bothered me.
1) Ah, Disney! in your arrogance, you proclaimed that your canon was best, and that it wouldn't be contradictory or cluttered. Yet in this book, Rey ponders if Unkar Plutt (the Blobfish) striped her speeder for parts, implying that she hasn't seen him since TFA. Why would she wonder, though? Chewie ripped Plutt's arms off on Takodona after he tracked her there, like we were shown in the TFA novelization. She knows what happened to him.
2) Ironically, one of Carson's and the TROS novelization's biggest issues is fixing problems that didn't exist in the first place (see my gripe about how Boolio got the file). Lando tells the gang that he and Luke overheard Ochi bragging about how he knew where the wayfinder was in a cantina. Ochi was looking for it too. This was headache inducing for me because I had assumed Ochi was one of Sidious' people from the beginning but it now appears that he himself was looking for the Emperor! They created a plot hole that never existed!
3) Speaking of Ochi, one of the plot holes that did exist was why Ochi's ship wasn't striped for parts. So we get this part in the book. "[On Jakku it] would be stripped for parts within days. Maybe the Forbidden Valley really was forbidden, only used once every 42 years during the Festival of Ancestors. There had to be an explanation for why this ship remained untouched." This is never brought up again. The answer is literally is lul dunno.
4) One last thing about Ochi is that Lando mentions that Ochi was a Jedi Killer since the Clone Wars. Look, I get that some species live longer than others, but do we need more characters that have been around since the Prequel Trilogy? Seriously, every character we meet now is pushing 100 and has been kicking since Naboo and Geonosis, Darth Maul, Darth Sidious, Rex, Hondo, and now Ochi, all surviving decades. Can we just accept that people die and that some people are younger than others?
5) Finally, Kylo Ren interrogates Chewie and taunts him, goading him to try and kill him. Chewie obviously doesn't do it, but Kylo mocks him and tells him that Chewie feels the Dark Side. Chewie can feel the Force now, apparently.
One last thing is, this book is really short! It's only 247 pages, I had read it was supposed to be 350 pages. It did get pushed back 2 weeks so I guess they cut a load of shit out. Remember: this is supposed to be the super fancy director's cut, imagine what was in those 100 pages. Welp, I'll keep reading and hopefully I'll be done tomorrow.
space shark doggo say bleh
First off mechanics:
1) Maybe I'm just an elitist, but I hate how she uses synonyms for "said" after every bit of dialogue. Writers often think this makes it more vivid, it doesn't, it just clogs your work up. There's a lot of "he said" "she retorted" "they shouted together" "she insisted persisantly" and things like that.
2) There's way too much telling and not enough showing. It's Brian Herbert (of McDune) levels of bad. She tells us what characters are feeling and how they look instead of manipulating dialogue or wording to show us. Obviously exposition is necessary sometimes, especially when there aren't two characters to hold dialogue with, but it shouldn't be your prime literary technique!
Story things that bothered me.
1) Ah, Disney! in your arrogance, you proclaimed that your canon was best, and that it wouldn't be contradictory or cluttered. Yet in this book, Rey ponders if Unkar Plutt (the Blobfish) striped her speeder for parts, implying that she hasn't seen him since TFA. Why would she wonder, though? Chewie ripped Plutt's arms off on Takodona after he tracked her there, like we were shown in the TFA novelization. She knows what happened to him.
2) Ironically, one of Carson's and the TROS novelization's biggest issues is fixing problems that didn't exist in the first place (see my gripe about how Boolio got the file). Lando tells the gang that he and Luke overheard Ochi bragging about how he knew where the wayfinder was in a cantina. Ochi was looking for it too. This was headache inducing for me because I had assumed Ochi was one of Sidious' people from the beginning but it now appears that he himself was looking for the Emperor! They created a plot hole that never existed!
3) Speaking of Ochi, one of the plot holes that did exist was why Ochi's ship wasn't striped for parts. So we get this part in the book. "[On Jakku it] would be stripped for parts within days. Maybe the Forbidden Valley really was forbidden, only used once every 42 years during the Festival of Ancestors. There had to be an explanation for why this ship remained untouched." This is never brought up again. The answer is literally is lul dunno.
4) One last thing about Ochi is that Lando mentions that Ochi was a Jedi Killer since the Clone Wars. Look, I get that some species live longer than others, but do we need more characters that have been around since the Prequel Trilogy? Seriously, every character we meet now is pushing 100 and has been kicking since Naboo and Geonosis, Darth Maul, Darth Sidious, Rex, Hondo, and now Ochi, all surviving decades. Can we just accept that people die and that some people are younger than others?
5) Finally, Kylo Ren interrogates Chewie and taunts him, goading him to try and kill him. Chewie obviously doesn't do it, but Kylo mocks him and tells him that Chewie feels the Dark Side. Chewie can feel the Force now, apparently.
One last thing is, this book is really short! It's only 247 pages, I had read it was supposed to be 350 pages. It did get pushed back 2 weeks so I guess they cut a load of shit out. Remember: this is supposed to be the super fancy director's cut, imagine what was in those 100 pages. Welp, I'll keep reading and hopefully I'll be done tomorrow.
space shark doggo say bleh