Orbiter 🏳️‍🌈🐱 Nick Fuentes / Nicholas Joseph Fuentes / der America First Pürrer / "Nick the Knife" - CatboyKami's ex. Flipped fed asset after January 6th. Groypers are pardoned for January 6th, still a fag. Kept Ali Akbar, brown muslim boy-hungry pedophile, around groypers knowing what he was. Hates white women more than blacks and jews.

You are supposed to say BOTH.

"I don't support these shootings but these shooters do have legitimatizes grievances. They don't want diversity, they don't want to become a minority in their neighborhood and they feel powerless to enact change through the system because the liberals marginalize their viewpoint as racist. So again I don't support these actions but these people do have legit graveness and domestic terrorism from muslims or whites or blacks is just part of daily life in a multiracial society. There will ALWAYS be people ON BOTH SIDES that dislike multiculturalism and will fight to achieve a neighborhood that looks like them, #selfdetermination."
Assuming that this was an effective PR strategy for a moment, it would only work if you were actually addressing the problems.

The El Paso shooter was just a regular guy who believed in the agenda Trump sold in 2016.

Would he have gone out blasting if Trump had done something as simple as pushing out an EO clarifying the birthright citizenship question, or any of a number of simple, effectively free things he promised to do? Probably not.
 
Zoomer Clips disappeared. I think it's because people were saying that he was basically doing Jared Holt's job for him by posting clips and Jared Holt liked a tweet that pointed that out. This isn't the tweet Holt liked, I can't find it, but it shows the sentiment against him. I documented him getting into fights with over people in his milieu earlier in the thread too.

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Assuming that this was an effective PR strategy for a moment, it would only work if you were actually addressing the problems.

The El Paso shooter was just a regular guy who believed in the agenda Trump sold in 2016.

Would he have gone out blasting if Trump had done something as simple as pushing out an EO clarifying the birthright citizenship question, or any of a number of simple, effectively free things he promised to do? Probably not.
You need to think beyond Trump.

White shooters in America are just the AMERICAN manifestation of diversity/lack of self determination. No difference between the El Paso Shooter, Dallas BLM Shooter, Dylan Roof, Breivik, Trenton and or the Serbian shooter that shot the archduke 100 years ago. In a a multiracial society there will ALWAYS be people that resist the oppression of their people and fight for freedom, independence, self-determination.

Your goal is to not support these shootings because they are not productive, counter productive, while also explaining the viewpoint of the shooter and stopping the liberals from demonizing these people as monsters. This is new normal, the inevitable result of LIBERAL, not Trump, diversity policies. The liberals need to take responsibility for oppressing these shooters, waging a war to exterminate their white neighborhoods and white families. Force the democrats/liberals to admit that shooters are their responsibily because they promote the policies that radicalize these people and they have for decades, Timothy McVeigh
 
I never really thought of fan service in that way but the more I think about it the more your right.
Specifically modern fan service. If you look at fan service from the 80's and 90's the women had much more realistic proportions and you'd rarely if ever see fan service of a character who was a preteen. Jap fanservice was at a much closer level to fan service in American movies from the same era. Good old fashioned T n' A. If the show was edgy and mature you'd get rape stuff, but again, not too different from in the west, which also did that a lot with darker content at the time. Like the famous Robocop shooting that guy in the dick scene, it was usually interrupted by the hero in spectacularly violent fashion or used to show how nasty the villain was.

Now there's a big divide between the two cultures, with a lot of western media being anti-sexiness in general thanks to the rise of woke scolds and paranoia about sexism/rape accusations, while even mostly wholesome anime and manga have wink-wink, nudge-nudge moments for niche fetishists whose tastes are very abnormal from what a regular, well adjusted, red-blooded male would find sexy. Nowadays, something as simple is a hot chick with big tits in a skimpy bikini is fairly rare to see as fan service from either country when it used to be the norm for both.

Pardon my sperging.
 
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I'm just going to leave this here, I wonder how Nick will be able to spin this to his groyper army as some kind of win.
The thing is that Nick probably doesn't even care for Trump that much anymore and it's very obvious that like 90% of Nick's fans don't even like Trump at all.

However, Nick doesn't want to go "Well, it's better to have a Republican than a Democrat. Trump might be a disappointment but I'd rather have him than Biden/Warren." he's still trying to still have a typical 'MAGA vibe' to try 'redpill the MAGApedes' but it just doesn't work. He's been doing stuff like "See, I'm a TRUE Trump fan," on Twitter lately, instead of dismissing the entire idea of Trump and just going for the reality of the situation.

Its cemented for a long time that Trump's and his base, the MAGApedes and the boomers aren't gonna budge on their neoconservatism.

I assure if Trump wins, Nick will definitely go anti-Trump later down the line when 'the coast is clear' for him.
 
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Its cemented for a long time that Trump's and his base, the MAGApedes and the boomers aren't gonna budge on their neoconservatism.

Because they cannot budge without the liberals attacking them as racists. Same reason liberals are stuck with neo-liberalism; if they try to pass any form of healthcare or tuition reform, the neo-cons will attack them as "literally Stalin." The result of center-left & center-right politics is the left wins on "racism bad" and the right wins on "socialism sux" so end result is diversity, degeneracy and wagecucking.

If Nick was a real leader, he would go and fight the liberals. The conservatives from whom he is seeking validation (Trump, Charlie Kirk) already lost to the liberals on gay marriage and immigration and deporting illegals. Until he proves that his talking points "own the liberals." they will not be able to support him.
 
The thing is that Nick probably doesn't even care for Trump that much anymore and it's very obvious that like 90% of Nick's fans don't even like Trump at all.

However, Nick doesn't want to go "Well, it's better to have a Republican than a Democrat. Trump might be a disappointment but I'd rather have him than Biden/Warren." he's still trying to still have a typical 'MAGA vibe' to try 'redpill the MAGApedes' but it just doesn't work. He's been doing stuff like "See, I'm a TRUE Trump fan," on Twitter lately, instead of dismissing the entire idea of Trump and just going for the reality of the situation.

Its cemented for a long time that Trump's and his base, the MAGApedes and the boomers aren't gonna budge on their neoconservatism.

I assure if Trump wins, Nick will definitely go anti-Trump later down the line when 'the coast is clear' for him.
It's pretty clear that he, like a lot of right wingers, was a fan of candidate Trump and not so much of President Trump.
 
Everyone on the right besides Trump seems to have this problem for some reason. It's either "I condemn these bad Nazis someone forwarded me a New York Times article about without doing any unbiased research into them," which validates and reinforces leftist tactics that will be used against you later, or "I empathize with the mass shooter who killed children" which will be used against you right now because you sound like a fucking psychopath.

It's an extremely all or nothing mentality.

Part of the reason is that half the time those on the right are accused of being things they aren't (or people are accused of being on the right when they aren't), that to be openly right wing itself is almost synonymous with being unapologetic.
 
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It's pretty clear that he, like a lot of right wingers, was a fan of candidate Trump and not so much of President Trump.
It wasn't even that: they loved their idea of Trump. For them, Trump was everything that the media said he was: a racist, a white nationalist, woke on (((THEM))), Putin's best bud, etc. They wanted the left-wing narrative to be true. True, Trump has shifted towards Normie Conservatism. Even with that, he has fulfilled most of his campaign promises, including (a portion of) the wall and curbing immigration. Even if one is a 2016 MAGApede, you can't deny that Trump has been remarkably successful for a first term president with an uncooperative congress.

These guys that have been largely "disillusioned" by Trump remind me of the black voters that were convinced that Obama was going to pay their gas, rent, mortgage, kitchen, etc.

Imagine actually believing that a guy with a Jew for an in-law was going to take care of America's (((ROOTLESS COSMOPOLITAN))) problem.
 
It's pretty clear that he, like a lot of right wingers, was a fan of candidate Trump and not so much of President Trump.
I think a lot of people got caught up in the euphoria of sticking it to the media for once, there was a lot of hope on all angles of the right back in 2016. Looking at the general numbers Trump can muster for his rallies its safe to say theres plenty of centre right and moderate right wingers that do still like him. We can only find out later on down the line with the next election if right wingers still like him or not.
 
The CBS News documentary that Nick smartly declined being interviewed for has been released on their YouTube channel. JF sat down with them for an interview, as did Faraday Speaks and some other guy.

 
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Good optics is power, period. Basic bitch apolitical normies gravitate to power (REAL power, not embarrassing Cville goon marches), not ideas.

The problem is that those factors aren't mutually-exclusive, but rather inherently feed into eachother: you can't have real political power to further an ideology without having appealling ideas and a way of attracting followers, and just having a bunch of followers and ideas on their own is meaningless if you have no idea how to translate them into something real and functional.

Failure to understand that is how you get people like Nickers (and their Communist counterparts as well, tbh), who are an impotent group by default, but feel that they're just entitled to autocratic power to enact the extremely controversial fringe ideology of their choice, while having absolutely no clue on how to actually take the first step to actualize it. I can't blame any political organisation for ostracizing the fuck out of the larping clowns, they're a losing tickey if I ever saw one.
 
The problem is that those factors aren't mutually-exclusive, but rather inherently feed into eachother: you can't have real political power to further an ideology without having appealling ideas and a way of attracting followers, and just having a bunch of followers and ideas on their own is meaningless if you have no idea how to translate them into something real and functional.

Failure to understand that is how you get people like Nickers (and their Communist counterparts as well, tbh), who are an impotent group by default, but feel that they're just entitled to autocratic power to enact the extremely controversial fringe ideology of their choice, while having absolutely no clue on how to actually take the first step to actualize it. I can't blame any political organisation for ostracizing the fuck out of the larping clowns, they're a losing tickey if I ever saw one.

But it works both ways, though: it's easiest to attract new followers to your ideas if you project some sort of power legitimizing your ideas and yourself as the person to execute them. Most people will not sit down for hours to debate you unless they are fringe obsessives predisposed to doing that. Instead, they are people occupied with everyday problems who will perk up if you indicate you can solve those problems.

If the alt-right built something IRL that filled a power vacuum (for example, heroin rehab clinics or vocational training facilities for whites in appalachia) they could get away with advocating some pretty far-out shit.

But they can't and won't, so the Nickers are stuck getting kicked out CPAC by drag queens. Everybody wants to be a strongman til it's time to lift weights.
 
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People missed this little drama but Nick Fuentes and James Allsup were kinda going at it, again, over the Weinstein Rape trial. Basically James called out Patrick Casey and the other AmNats for unironically putting a moral high ground over Harvey Weinstein and saying they're all physically deficient. Nick gets all passive aggressive, goes NO U at James, spends his stream time trying to shit on James' physique and claiming how he's a shit person with women.

Kind of ironic since James can handle relationships, unlike Nick.

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