Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[AgriDrThunder]

Anybody know what's going on with Germany's numbers? They seem fucked to me; 15,320 confirmed infected with only 44 dead compared to the UK with ~2700 confirmed and 137 dead. Are they covering up deaths?

 

[mindlessobserver]

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Are we seriously going to start bitching about a potential treatment for this, now? Are we actually going to do that?

Absolutely. There is no hope left. Accept your doom. Wallow in the failure of the orange man. America is doomed.

The New York Times

Our current generation of journalists is straying dangerously close to treason. It's one thing to pretend nothing is wrong. Nobody is doing that. It is quite another however to actively undermine the governments response to what is an existential crisis to the nation. These people seem perfectly happy to parrot the propaganda of Beijing while at the same time try and undermine the actions of Washington DC.

One must therefore ask which government these journalists serve.

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It's a rhetorical question. They serve Beijing. They fear China but disregard America because they assume the 1st amendment gives them carte blanche to do what they want. They are very wrong and for the first time this crisis has given Bad Orange Man the power to actually reach for weapons stored in the attic.

The Espionage Act of 1917 doesnt just have provisions to dunk on Wikileaks. It also has provisions for dealing with American publications parroting the official line of a foreign power.

I generally hate the 1917 espionage act but dammit if these morons aren't making me want to reevaluate my stance.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Any idiots that still believe that their "corporate family" values them have now had that dream shattered. Based on this, I think this whole problem is a good thing overall.

A key part of National Bolshevism is that corporate leaders don't care about you but, the Leader cares. And if you're lucky he'll visit your failing corporation, call your boss a cockroach and tell him to pay you or get shipped to off to ze camps. An energetic leader and a large supply of camps is necessary for this heterodox economic intervention to have an effect.

 

[DNA_JACKED]

Anybody know what's going on with Germany's numbers? They seem fucked to me; 15,320 confirmed infected with only 44 dead compared to the UK with ~2700 confirmed and 137 dead. Are they covering up deaths?

Extremely unlikely. More likely that germany is catching more early/mild cases then the UK is catching in their testing. The simple infection of a nursing home could throw a number as low as 44 off by a wild amount.

 

[Rudy Russo]

US:
191 deaths
108 recoveries

I recall early in the thread talk of China's numbers and comparing deaths vs recoveries being important.
Why more deaths than recovered? Is it just too early in to see recoveries?

The US seems to be very careful with declaring someone recovered compared to alot of other countries.

 

[Smug Cat]

Our current generation of journalists is straying dangerously close to treason.

I think they're slimey mindless faggots but aggressively criticizing the ruling government is not treason. The media poking the government in the face and calling them shitty is a fundamental American value. Just cause they're being retarded this time doesn't mean the whole thing should be thrown out.

 

[wokelizard]

Horrifying

Seeing those heads, in those bubbles was chilling. Like, that's horror movie stuff, literally drowning in air and hospitals not having the equipment to save you. It's a possible future for countries behind Italy on the infection curve, for hundreds of thousands closer to home, if we don't get this thing under control.

 

[2021Murder]

I'm rating you autistic right now, but I'm coming back to change it to winner if you're right.

I'm calling bullshit just based on how many journalists and politicans would be fucked with this law. DC is technically in maryland when it comes to shit like state lines, but almost all journalists are in VA, same with a shitload of congress, the amount of interstate travel between VA and MD is almost as much as the ones between NJ and NY. You would basically be turning everyone against the feds for that. Christie went from prospective head of the RNC or President to unemployed for closing a few lanes of traffic on just one bridge in new jersey. deaths would happen with interstate travel, that plus the century of road building in this nation means you would need a vehicle and soldier on every road. stopping interstate travel also doesn't stop people from

 

[AgriDrThunder]

DC is technically in maryland when it comes to shit like state lines,

Please explain how that works

 

[Slap47]

Attracting illegal immigrants to fight an outbreak.

 

[heyilikeyourmom]

If my local supermarket put up prices in response to increased demand, I might actually be able to buy stuff.

I’m sorry. This was a situation whose complexity I underestimated, Nutria.

 

[mindlessobserver]

I think they're slimey mindless faggots but aggressively criticizing the ruling government is not treason. The media poking the government in the face and calling them shitty is a fundamental American value. Just cause they're being exceptional this time doesn't mean the whole thing should be thrown out.

I want to make a hard line distinction between being a legit criticism and a mouthpiece of Xi Xinping. Too much of our media seems to want to be the latter rather then the former. Criticism of government is fine. Being a tool of the Chinese Communist Party is not.

 

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Attracting illegal immigrants to fight an outbreak.

I'm all for it, as long as this "bailout check" comes in the form of a pair of handcuffs and a 1 way ticket to mexico.

 

[wokelizard]

Eating fresh bat caused Ebola and eating monkey caused AIDS so it seems like some animals should just be haram.

I wonder if in hindsight, given the damage to the global economy from all this, it would have just been cheaper to guarantee a nutrition supply to every human on the planet so they don't have to eat shit like bats and monkeys. Add up all the money and lost growth and this'll end up costing trillions right? And killing millions? I think I'd rather have spent that money feeding everyone. Literally just giving away food everywhere until nobodies involuntarily hungry any more. How many tens of billions would that cost per year? Versus trillions now?

 

[Rudy Russo]

With the government as co-owner of your business, won't that make you subject to every stupid government regulation on the books? And won't you then be filling out all kinds of forms in triplicate?

Plus you'll have to hire Nancy's relatives, Chuckles relatives, Lindsey Graham's gay lovers relatives, and so on.

 

[DNA_JACKED]

I wonder if in hindsight, given the damage to the global economy from all this, it would have just been cheaper to guarantee a nutrition supply to every human on the planet so they don't have to eat shit like bats and monkeys. Add up all the money and lost growth and this'll end up costing trillions right? And killing millions? I think I'd rather have spent that money feeding everyone. Literally just giving away food everywhere until nobodies involuntarily hungry any more. How many tens of billions would that cost per year? Versus trillions now?

We've been trying out damnest to get africa on the right track for half a century now. China's wealth has exploded over the last 30 years. These are human problems. You could give these countries all the food they could ever want and they will STILL eat bat/baboon/rat/whatever because short of military occupation you can ensure the local governments will never comply with what you want them to do, and the locals will either worship the fancy new toilet you installed or throw all the western food away because "black voodoo magiks".

Cheaper option is to pull out altogether and tell these countries to sink or swim. Stop providing all this aid, stop giving them all our money and trade secrets.

 

[Smug Cat]

I want to make a hard line distinction between being a legit criticism and a mouthpiece of Xi Xinping. Too much of our media seems to want to be the latter rather then the former. Criticism of government is fine. Being a tool of the Chinese Communist Party is not.

They're playing the retarded racism angle because 1) they're fucktarded and 2) their fucktarded overprivileged turdpile of a readership eats that shit up. That's not actual chinese propaganda. I don't think these people are actually taking marching orders from Winnie the Poo. This particular article doesn't even say anything positive about the chinks, it's just a garden variety "drumphthhdgpppbbbbbbbbbb did it so its bad" article.

The espionage act is specifically about military engagements so I think it has fuck-all to do with any of this. Freedom of the press is profoundly important, even if the press is dumber than a bag of hair.

 

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This MSNBC piece touches on a bunch of random shit, but the thing that should interest most of is the fact that:

Apparently not only did the CCP buy up all the fucking masks, but they made contracts with ventilator companies to buy up all their stock through June way back in the beginning of February when they were downplaying the severity of the crisis to the world.

When this is all said and done, I want Xi's head on a fucking platter. China MUST be punished for this. Economic sanctions until they collapse is the LEAST we can do to the polution goblins.

 

[Considered HARMful]

I wonder if in hindsight, given the damage to the global economy from all this, it would have just been cheaper to guarantee a nutrition supply to every human on the planet so they don't have to eat shit like bats and monkeys. Add up all the money and lost growth and this'll end up costing trillions right? And killing millions? I think I'd rather have spent that money feeding everyone. Literally just giving away food everywhere until nobodies involuntarily hungry any more. How many tens of billions would that cost per year? Versus trillions now?

Sure, as soon as you manage to pacify the warlords intercepting and profiting from selling the food (and other aid) while the unarmed populace starves - as it has always been.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

I think they're slimey mindless faggots but aggressively criticizing the ruling government is not treason. The media poking the government in the face and calling them shitty is a fundamental American value. Just cause they're being exceptional this time doesn't mean the whole thing should be thrown out.

It is if it's done at the behest and/or to benefit a foreign power, especially if it's a hostile foreign power. If the ChiComs deliberately allowed the virus to escape, infect our citizens and then deny us medicine and parts for ventilators then it's pretty much a casus belli for war.