Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[StarkRavingMad]

Just read the daily updates from my state: Looks like the first death has finally happened. After, what? Almost two weeks since the first case was reported?

It was a Boomer with multiple health issues (kidney problems and diabetic). Not unexpected, but RIP all the same.

 

[DNA_JACKED]

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It originated in China.

The myth is that it came with ww1 laborers. No evidence of that. That makes sense since you don't ship out sick people.

It likely came from people just interacting with Chinese people in China.

The version of the virus in China was milder but it gave people immunity. The evolved version in the west was a killer. China got really lucky during the Spanish Flu all things considered.

The theory was that workers being shipped from china to europe via canada suffered an outbreak of the disease in transit across the continent. This has never been confirmed, but it had to get across the ocean somehow, and there were movements of chinese laborers in late 1917 across canada, although there are no records of disease. These laborers were kept top secret to avoid angering german contingents in the chinese sphere of influence, so no official data was ever recorded. The disease was found in kansas in january 1918, and a mysterious flu had ripped through france in the winter of 1915-16. Travel between china and america was rare back then, but there were no records to point at the disease occurring anywhere between china and europe via land routes, so it had to spread somehow.

It's interesting that we didnt have a specimen of Spanish flu until 1997, when it was discovered in the body of a frozen eskimo woman whom had died ~80 years earlier.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled corona-sperging.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

(hitler TP video)

There is a more modern version of this for our current times:

Spoiler

I do hope that our Fuhrer will see us through this trouble.

 

[MrJokerRager]

 

[Actinidia]

Not caught up on thread entirely, but friends, I heard a very filtered version of fuckass's rumor early this morning from a source in Boston.

This morning I heard we'd be stuck in our houses until probably the end of April, except essential personnel, by midnight.

Now I can't get in touch with any of my friends/relatives in the region fuckass mentioned OR people I know to have security clearances, including members of my immediate family.

Rate me whatever you want and prepare your buttholes.

 

[Hummingbird]

Have you heard of this treatment called Chloroquine? It's a bit risky, but it looks like it could have promise and we don't have much to lose. I guess I just want to be optimistic about this until we get a vaccine.

Spoiler: Plenty of info

A drug that has been used to treat malaria for around 70 years, chloroquine, has been floated as a potential candidate. It appears to be able to block viruses from binding to human cells and getting inside them to replicate. It also stimulates the immune system. A letter to the editor in journal Nature on Feb. 4 showed chloroquine was effective in combating SARS-CoV-2. A Chinese study emanating from Guangdong reports chloroquine improved patient outcomes and "might improve the success rate of treatment" and "shorten hospital stay."

Elon Musk, Tesla and SpaceX CEO, and Donald Trump, president of the United States, have both touted chloroquine as a potential treatment candidate. A more recent correspondence in the journal Nature, on March 18, suggests hydroxychloroquine -- a less toxic derivative of the drug -- is effective at inhibiting SARS-CoV-2 infection. That derivative is widely available to treat disease like rheumatoid arthritis and Chinese researchers have at least seven clinical trials using hydroxychloroquine to treat infection.

The Food and Drug Administration commissioner, Stephen Hahn, discussed the investigations into chloroquine during a White House briefing on March 19. "That's a drug that the president has directed us to take a closer look at as to whether an expanded use approach to that could be done to actually see if that benefits patients," said Hahn.

Donald Trump announced the FDA approved chloroquine to be used on a "compassionate use" basis on March 19.

 

[DNA_JACKED]

Not caught up on thread entirely, but friends, I heard a very filtered version of fuckass's rumor early this morning from a source in Boston.

This morning I heard we'd be stuck in our houses until probably the end of April, except essential personnel, by midnight.

Now I can't get in touch with any of my friends/relatives in the region fuckass mentioned OR people I know to have security clearances, including members of my immediate family.

Rate me whatever you want and prepare your buttholes.

No hysteria. Bad.

I'm in one of Fuckass' regions, and work with a member of the national guard. Fuckass is talking out of his fucking ass, the info he has is from a copypasta circulating Reddit.

Have you heard of this treatment called Chloroquine? It's a bit risky, but it looks like it could have promise and we don't have much to lose. I guess I just want to be optimistic about this until we get a vaccine.

Spoiler: Plenty of info

A drug that has been used to treat malaria for around 70 years, chloroquine, has been floated as a potential candidate. It appears to be able to block viruses from binding to human cells and getting inside them to replicate. It also stimulates the immune system. A letter to the editor in journal Nature on Feb. 4 showed chloroquine was effective in combating SARS-CoV-2. A Chinese study emanating from Guangdong reports chloroquine improved patient outcomes and "might improve the success rate of treatment" and "shorten hospital stay."

Elon Musk, Tesla and SpaceX CEO, and Donald Trump, president of the United States, have both touted chloroquine as a potential treatment candidate. A more recent correspondence in the journal Nature, on March 18, suggests hydroxychloroquine -- a less toxic derivative of the drug -- is effective at inhibiting SARS-CoV-2 infection. That derivative is widely available to treat disease like rheumatoid arthritis and Chinese researchers have at least seven clinical trials using hydroxychloroquine to treat infection.

The Food and Drug Administration commissioner, Stephen Hahn, discussed the investigations into chloroquine during a White House briefing on March 19. "That's a drug that the president has directed us to take a closer look at as to whether an expanded use approach to that could be done to actually see if that benefits patients," said Hahn.

Donald Trump announced the FDA approved chloroquine to be used on a "compassionate use" basis on March 19.

It's been commented on multiple times in the last 10 pages.

 

[Green Man]

We need to talk about the fact the virus has been detected in high concentrations in the feces too... San Francisco might have a huge sanitary problem soon with the amount of poo they get in the streets every day. But that's not the only thing that might be concerning, i will sound like an idiot but, has anyone tested farts for the coronavirus yet ? It might sound dumb... But... No, i'm not even joking. That also represent a very, very high risk of aerosolization of the virus into very tiny particles in the air, maybe even smaller than the usual aerosolization from sneezing / cough and could spread much further than that, from droplets that can already make it survive up to three or four hours being airborne depending on how tiny the particles are, it can go higher in the air from being "warmed" by body temperature and being lifted / traveling very easily in the wind from the further break down aerosolization / thinner particles delivered by the maceration of the intestine gazes... Sorry for the details and i'm not an expert, but that is something i'm really wondering.

I swear, if somebody can rip ass in an elevator and take out half an apartment building, I think I might just run a hose from the exhaust to the window and get it over with.

Anyone else getting a surreal feeling that our timeline has rapidly diverged from any sense of normalcy? If you would have told me a mere month ago that most of the country's businesses would be closed, all of the big events would be postponed and 10,000 people died, all because of this thing, I would have said that's plausible but unlikely. If you'd told me that two months ago, I would have told you that next time you might want to break the Prozacs in half.

 

[Actinidia]

Good for fuckass, I guess, but we really are stuck in our houses here.

Law enforcement is still claiming they'll be "educating" people... cool.

 

[New & Improved Username]

Being an American old enough to remember 9-11 I can definitely say this feeling is far worse.

Oh hell yes. That was grief. Major major grief. I never feared for myself. The muzzies weren't going to come into my daily life and kill me slowly and ruin my way of life. This is so much worse.


eta: I read an article which said the virus was detectable in feces but feces had no active virus. It would be hard to find that particular article but maybe that finding will pop up again.

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

We need to talk about the fact the virus has been detected in high concentrations in the feces too... San Francisco might have a huge sanitary problem soon with the amount of poo they get in the streets every day. But that's not the only thing that might be concerning, i will sound like an idiot but, has anyone tested farts for the coronavirus yet ? It might sound dumb... But... No, i'm not even joking. That also represent a very, very high risk of aerosolization of the virus into very tiny particles in the air, maybe even smaller than the usual aerosolization from sneezing / cough and could spread much further than that, from droplets that can already make it survive up to three or four hours being airborne depending on how tiny the particles are, it can go higher in the air from being "warmed" by body temperature and being lifted / traveling very easily in the wind from the further break down aerosolization / thinner particles delivered by the maceration of the intestine gazes... Sorry for the details and i'm not an expert, but that is something i'm really wondering.

If we end up with Braps Of Death, I hope someone tells God that this whole Earth show has jumped the shark.

 

[Slap47]

I swear, if somebody can rip ass in an elevator and take out half an apartment building, I think I might just run a hose from the exhaust to the window and get it over with.

Anyone else getting a surreal feeling that our timeline has rapidly diverged from any sense of normalcy? If you would have told me a mere month ago that most of the country's businesses would be closed, all of the big events would be postponed and 10,000 people died, all because of this thing, I would have said that's plausible but unlikely. If you'd told me that two months ago, I would have told you that next time you might want to break the Prozacs in half.

The Chinese curse is "may you live in interesting times" afterall

Being an American old enough to remember 9-11 I can definitely say this feeling is far worse. It's not sudden enough to trigger the blinding rage that that one morning in September unleashed in anyone old enough for cognitive thought. But I can definitely sense that feeling starting to rise.

China has mismanaged this crisis from day one. They could have done two things. Dealt with it honestly when it started and mitigated the fallout. And barring that, own up to their fuck up when they failed to mitigate. On both those fronts they failed. Worse they now try to shift the blame to us Americans. And use our own media as patsies for their vile propaganda. As if they assume we are all fucking morons.

I remember the night of 9-11 angrily pacing inside my house. This feeling is very similar. Only it's more a slow burning rage rather then an incandescent fury. China has seriously fucked up and their patsies in the media had better watch out. The consequences for this are going to be far reaching.

I had to stand 6 feet away from the old lady who owns the gas station by my house. She is in her 70s and is using a fucking bandana to protect herself. A fucking bandana. But she can't close her corner store as it's her only income. This is the price of Xi Xinpings pride. A 70+ year old woman running her dead husband's corner store in Virginia fearing for her safety. It is unbelievable and absolutely infuriating.

The United States rallied around their president after 9/11.

That was probably actually a bad thing all things considered...

Perhaps this political division does some good.

 

[DDBCAE CBAADCBE]

Oh hell yes. That was grief. Major major grief. I never feared for myself. The muzzies weren't going to come into my daily life and kill me slowly and ruin my way of life. This is so much worse.

I don't know if I'd compare it to 9/11. I'd say 9/11 was much worse in my opinion. Don't forget that there were people who had to make the choice to either face the smoke and choke to death or jump and splatter of the ground. This isn't anywhere close to as gut wrenching as what happened to those people. Not by a long shot.

 

[Non-Expert!]

they need to step it up; pressure to shut it all down on government levels is the only thing that will stop people from having to risk lives for crappy jobs.

I know a lot of people in his situation. it's not his fault. your wife's boss is going to get people killed. we should start getting serious about this and people endangering others that way... it chaps me, I'll just leave it at that.

I don't even care about anyone's Grandma, really. there are younger people dying, cancer survivors, people with no reason to die right now. people over 80...eh. they've lived. I hate having to work on people in the prime of life though. they shouldn't be crossing my table with lungs like hard bread.

Bump.

So Newsom did the right thing?

Who are "all these young people" crossing your table?

Are these folks documented Corona victims, or is the govt hiding something?

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

A while back a friend and I were drunk talking about how we needed to approach life post 2016 in the following manner: Whatever is has the least likely statistical chance of occurring is that which will occur.

I think this still holds true.

But don't despair, fellow Kiwis. You will be able to look your children and grandchildren in the eye and say: "You think not being able to digitally download the 3D Printer template for your new shoes for four more hours is bad? Listen up, you little shit, I had to eat rice and beans and stare at your grandma's fat ass for 2 months because some fucking pollution goblin ate a bat. Now go get Grampa the goddamn whiskey out of the garage. The shit on the stop shelf, next to the 300 rolls of toilet paper I have."

 

[RodgerDodger]

It's official: employees choosing to go in sick to work at the Life Care nursing home in Kirkland, WA is what's rekt the lives of people living in the Seattle area. Oh, and not to mention the 35 deaths linked directly to it. Someone, an employee or an official needs to be held responsible for this, gd!
Jail time, give it to them.
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And this, this right here, is why I have come to loathe modern Journalists. Those who authoritatively report on things they know nothing about.

Public health authorities who surveyed long-term care facilities in the area found they didn’t have enough personal protective equipment or other items such as alcohol-based hand sanitizer.

Why the Fuck would a Nursing Care Facility have an abundance of Alcohol Based Hand Sanitizer? These are Nurses and Caregivers in a Nursing and Medical Environment. There are Hand Washing Stations everywhere. They are supposed to Wash their hands. Hand Sanitizer is not something Medical Professionals would typically use in a Health Care delivery environment. Because they are supposed to keep washing their fucking hands! Using the sinks that are everywhere! And the special soaps. When you see Hand Sanitizer in a Hospital or Doctors Office etc, IT'S FOR THE NORMIES! It's a quick "better than nothing" tool for those who don't routinely do the whole proper hand washing things all day every day. This is like a reporter bitching that a Fire Truck is improperly equipped because it doesn't have a roll of Garden Hose.

 

[UntimelyDhelmise]

I don't know if I'd compare it to 9/11. I'd say 9/11 was much worse in my opinion. Don't forget that there were people who had to make the choice to either face the smoke and choke to death or jump and splatter of the ground. This isn't anywhere close to as gut wrenching as what happened to those people. Not by a long shot.

Not to downplay it by any means, but that was one isolated event that affected a specific area and a specific number of people in terms of sheer physical trauma. This however is a global, ongoing issue that's already causing untold damage in every way possible, from physical and mental health to economics and societal infrastructure.

On a sheer shock and horror level 9/11 is worse, but in terms of sheer lasting repercussions and suffering, this is the biggest tragedy of our age. And we've only seen the start.

The sliver lining is the hope that unlike 9/11 which led to a bunch of bullshit, Corona-chan will bring some positive changes when her rampage is done (indeed, it could be argued we're already seeing some of them).

 

[RodgerDodger]

I think they're slimey mindless faggots but aggressively criticizing the ruling government is not treason. The media poking the government in the face and calling them shitty is a fundamental American value. Just cause they're being exceptional this time doesn't mean the whole thing should be thrown out.

They used to be held to standards of truth. Especially during times of crisis. The old time publishers that their only shield from government was truth, provable fact. This has all been abandoned in favor of "narrative". So don't be surprised when somebody gets stepped on.

 

[Non-Expert!]

Almost half of coronavirus patients have digestive symptoms, study finds

A new study suggests respiratory symptoms aren't the only thing doctors and patients should be looking out for.

www.cbsnews.com

I guess the tp hoarders get the last laugh on this one.

 

[Youthanasia]

Hi all, haven't been on the Farms for some time due to this.

Malaysia's under a 2-week Restricted Movement Order after the cases swelled to around 700+ from an Islam missionary gathering with about 10k locals and 5k foreigners attending the event.

It's Day 3/14 and I'm hunkered down at my hometown with my immediate family. We've got food for about 2 months, so that's settled. There's just a sense of foreboding that something catastrophic is gonna happen soon....

Spoiler: powerlevel

I'm a final year student at the University of London which splits its papers into Zone A for UK students and Zone B for international students. I have exams in May and the obvious choice is to prepare regardless, but after this Tweet, how likely is it that I'll be forced to take a gap year? I know there's already a deadline for the announcement, but I'd just like the odds before I bet my degree results, y'know?