Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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Shield Breaker said:
I'm wondering if I am over thinking this.

My friend's job (car rentals) has day and night shifts. Since they fired a bunch of people, they had to redo the schedule and to make sure everything is 'fair' everyone has to work some day shifts and some night shifts during the week. My friend too, even though she is the senior agent or whatever.

I am pretty sure changes to people's sleep schedules negatively effects their immune system, doesn't it? Wouldn't making all of the remaining employees have these weird schedules lower their immune systems? During a pandemic and doing a job that involves interacting with people from all over the country, no less. I asked if she could quit, but she said she couldn't.
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I mean.. firing people, making them homeless and restricting their diet to processed food is probably a bigger problem.
 
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Computer Boy said:
Why is it in red?
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Whenever there's a significant new "high score" I'll mark it in red. When there was a huge spike in tests a few days ago I marked that one in red too.

Sadly this rise of a thousand confirmed cases in a day is a new high score for the UK.

Meanwhile, recently retired NHS workers are being brought back onto the front lines. Some 3, 986 nurses and 495 doctors have so far answered the call, boosting staffing figures by 4.5k. It's unclear at present what exactly their role is, could be they cover shortfalls in staff elsewhere while more current frontline staff continue to fight the Kung Flu.
 
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Interesting study on N95 masks

https://www.livescience.com/respirators-prevent-coronavirus-infection-study.html
https://archive.li/l9J1F
https://web.archive.org/web/2020022...tors-prevent-coronavirus-infection-study.html

tl;dr - N95 masks do protect from corona, despite the media incessantly telling everyone they do not. Also washing your hands is not a substitute, even though the media told you it was. I reckon the 'don't buy a mask' mantra is because the government knows that the healthcare system is desperately short of masks and it's better to use the masks on the market for health care professionals than your worthless ass.

About 280 medical staff in the hospital's Respiratory, ICU and Infectious Diseases departments wore N95 respirators and washed their hands frequently, while about 215 in the departments of Hepatobiliary Pancreatic Surgery, Trauma and Microsurgery, and Urology wore no masks and disinfected their hands less frequently. Although the respirator group encountered confirmed cases more often than the unmasked group — more than 730% more often — no one in the respirator group became infected.

In comparison, 10 people in the unmasked group contracted the novel disease, despite treating fewer infected patients.

Related: 10 deadly diseases that hopped across species

"It would appear that N95 respirators, no surprise, protect against health care acquisition of the virus," said Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious-diseases specialist at Vanderbilt University in Tennessee, who was not involved in the current study. The small study is "reassuring in that sense," although there was no reason to think that N95 respirators wouldn't block out the novel coronavirus effectively, he added.

Wang and his co-authors went on to review infection data from the Huangmei People's Hospital and the Qichun People's Hospital, which each housed more than 10 infected patients during the time surveyed. As at the Zhongnan Hospital, no medical staff who wore N95 respirators and frequently washed their hands caught COVID-19.
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As the NYT put it

www.nytimes.com

Opinion | Why Telling People They Don’t Need Masks Backfired

To help manage the shortage, the authorities sent a message that made them untrustworthy.
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Why Telling People They Don’t Need Masks Backfired

To help manage the shortage, the authorities sent a message that made them untrustworthy.
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https://archive.is/R4vpx
https://web.archive.org/web/2020031...020/03/17/opinion/coronavirus-face-masks.html
 
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Gustav Schuchardt said:
Interesting study on N95 masks

https://www.livescience.com/respirators-prevent-coronavirus-infection-study.html
https://archive.li/l9J1F
https://web.archive.org/web/2020022...tors-prevent-coronavirus-infection-study.html

tl;dr - N95 masks do protect from corona, despite the media incessantly telling everyone they do not. Also washing your hands is not a substitute, even though the media told you it was. I reckon the 'don't buy a mask' mantra is because the government knows that the healthcare system is desperately short of masks and it's better to use the masks on the market for health care professionals than your worthless ass.
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Idiotic politicians (who got screencapped in this thread) were saying how the masks totally don't work on normies... but we need to stop buying them so the healthcare professionals can have them.... which won't presumably work for them either.
 
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HonsPonzud said:
China didn't used specialized Crematories in the beginning, just typical funerarium's cremation oven, there also was a loooot of burning flats, and fires around Wuhan / China at one point, looking like they were so over burdened wiht bodies they were just burning them in pitt or in the open, shared by HArry chen phd on twiwtter. These simple ovens that just releases the fumes and gazes as soon as it burns without really "containing" the fumes at all or long enough for the gazes to be burned at a high temperature enough, just freed in the atmosphere as soon as it fucking burns, at least, in the beginning they did use these simple crematoriums all around Wuhan before the government brought specialized industrial ovens / crematoriums.
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Do we need to start looking for recorded atmospheric currents for wuhan/pacific like we did the seas for that oil rig and Japan's version of 'Let's Play who builds a dangerous nuclear facility: There, ffs'.?
 
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DerSandstrom said:
I would hope that my state agrees with this thinking, but then I look at who our secretary of health is:


A troon. Probably not happening here.



That's the part that startled me. Who the fuck does that on a whim? (Besides California, we know they're the epitome of incompetent).

This pandemic hasn't even started to cascade and they're already doing it. What's going to happen there a few weeks down the road?
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If i was drinking something right now i'd of spit it up,....uh shit you might as well just spread the word and let the public push back. These times are extremely trying and quite literally there's no breathing room for any shenanigans of the sort especially from this "astounding" individual.
 
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BanalEntropy said:
Is there any word on why men are being so disproportionately affected? I could be wrong but I always thought that women were more prone to having preexisting conditions.
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Men have bigger lungs, iirc. Since this is an airborne virus, their counts will be higher from the inhalation of droplets. Probably might be wrong.
 
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Went to the commissary today. Parking lot was more like the usual Saturday. Got there earlier than usual.

No toilet paper. Item limits on tissues/paper towels/bottled water/hamburger. No chicken, far as I could tell. Had beef and pork but no hamburger. No frozen ground beef, either. Bought a 2-pound box of frozen plain hamburger patties. Can take them out, thaw them, crumble them up Had milk. Almost no eggs, one carton to a customer. One way or another - made some substitutions - got everything needed. Commissary doing much better than last Saturday. Like to think the commissary has turned the corner. They have been increasing their orders with distributors for certain items. Garrison commander there again today. Thanked him for the great job re the no-guest policy and item limits. Energetic fellow. Can see a star in his future.

Right now crude is $19.84/barrel. Today got gas on base - cheapest around. Down twenty cents to $2.85 for a gallon of regular. In this state crude could get to nineteen cents a barrel, and those cocksuckers in the state capital would find some way to make us pay $2-3/gallon.

For the foreseeable future plan to get to the commissary when it opens at 9:00 a.m. Get there while there is still enoigh of certain things to buy.
 
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BanalEntropy said:
Is there any word on why men are being so disproportionately affected? I could be wrong but I always thought that women were more prone to having preexisting conditions.
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Men are in general more burdened by most diseases. They get more, and die more, with the exception of autoimmune stuff and a few other things.
There are a number of theories mostly to do with reproductive fitness and roles., and resource partitioning.
Women, don’t forget, have to host an immunologically foreign being (a foetus) in their body for nine months a time without rejecting it or becoming too sick so their immune systems are different to men’s. Women react differently to all sorts of immune stimuli and even their macrophages react differently.
Men and women are biologically different right down to the cellular response level (sorry, troons...) I’m sure I’ve read that men get more lower respiratory tract infections too.
Men draw the short straw on a lot of disease related stuff. Evolutionary theories can’t really be proven but they’re interesting all the same.
 
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