The only recurring theme here is you trying to make statements as facts and then when I prove you wrong you try an ad hominem attack. You tried this with the clerk's legal notes/rules of Sup. Court of Va and then you tried again with another subject. You are simply trying to project right now with an ad hominem attack.
I did not speak with you about the clerk's legal notes, Melinda. Are you confusing me with someone else?
Sexual repression is WAY MORE than "the denial of urges".
It is also shame and guilt, I said that.
Masturbation IS denial of urges toward others.
This logic does not follow. Masturbation is not a denial of urges, it is acting on those urges in a safe and healthy way. Yes, sex is amazing, but masturbation is a healthy alternative when your partner is not available. It is not repression by any stretch of the imagination.
Now, one could feel shame about masturbation, and THAT would be repression. Is that what you're thinking of? If it is, that's a you problem.
Hello, how dense could be? Bragging about masturbation as some "higher road" is like trying to brag that you live off of bread and water when a clearly more nutritional balance is gains, fruits, veggies and meat.
While this is a bizarre metaphor in general, to follow it along, eating bread and water is preferable to never eating, and should not be mistaken for anorexia or bulemia, which is honestly what your description of masturbation reminds me of.
If you have no desire to even pursue marriage for frequent sex and live off of masturbation than you are sexually repressed.
Again, no. While "living off masturbation" is not something I think anyone should do, pursuing marriage for frequent sex isn't something I think someone should do either. And that's just getting into people with standard sex drives, never mind people with lessened to none for whatever reason.
I don't expect you to agree with anything I say. I'm not here to convert you to my thinking. This is a debate, in which you continue to expose your own folly.
While this is far from a proper debate, if it were, and the strength of the argument judged according to a group of observers, I have every faith that the panel would side with my arguments over yours. I can define the words I use, for starters.
Really? You have lurked this thread non-stop and I have to start at square one again. Seriously?
I've been married twice, divorce once. I've had other Covenant partners in between. I lived in a matriarchal family set up before I got married. Now I am married and can express my sexuality in a healthy, monogamous relationship. That's far from sexual repression.
So what you are saying is you were fucking around outside of marriage but when you do it it's okay because of reasons.
Quelle surprise.
That's social programming code for "sexual repression" ...of women mostly.
Making sure you're emotionally and sexually compatible with someone before marriage is sexual repression now? Having sex outside of marriage is sexual repression? Are you seriously arguing that right now?
There is nothing wrong with divorce or raising children as a single parent. Divorce doesn't mess children up, neither does being raised by a single dad/mom. Lots of fucked up people come from two parent homes where the parents were together 25...30...55 years.
There's also nothing wrong with having sex outside of marriage, or not having sex. Divorces and sex can both be very messy and taxing, so a lot of people don't want to do one, the other, or either if they can help it.
The only "we" debating me here is a bunch of uneducated pagans who frequent this site in order to protect patriarchy and it's daughter, sexual repression of women. Hardly a cause for me to be surprised. I'm well studied on this issue.
Considering your general familiarity with the other subjects on which you have deigned to comment on in the recent past (EG: Phrenology) I strongly doubt that. Also wow the projection.
There are billions of people on this earth who don't think the way the Kiwi Farm club does. Might be time for you to expand your horizons.
I would hypothesize that more people of those billions of people would disagree with your particular views about sex and intimacy than would disagree with the views posted by the other farmers in the thread.
Because getting in a monogamous relationship to be connected to another person and express your sexuality is a completely normal healthy process. You can't control or garuntee the experience no matter how many "red flags" you look for or questions you ask.
So why do you take so much issue when other women decide to do it?
Extreme fear of relationships which causes someone to retreat into a lifestyle of masturbating is symptomatic of PTSD, which is not a sign of being in a healthy state.
This is just a word salad. PTSD and chronic masturbation have basically no causal link with each other.
Under The Torah, serial Monogamy and having multiple partners doesn't make a man or a woman a "slut".
So why have you been making a big deal about the individual you thought Redcent was sleeping with multiple partners?
Confidence and taking the path less chosen is not arrogance, it's confidence and taking the path less chosen.
This is a tautology and a distraction. You are arrogant.
You know you've been lecturing kiwi farmers on how they can't diagnose you as a narcissist because they're not qualified shrinks. What about your qualifications? How come you get to "diagnose" others but you cant be called a narcissist?
Like, fuck, I know I'm crazy in a lot of ways, but having a happy time isn't part of that.
Melinda thinks she can judge people because she's "chosen" near as I can figure. She thinks no one can judge her in return because they haven't had her specific circumstances.
It's pretty standard Narc shielding, really.