Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[JosephStalin]

My first new car was a chevy cavalier, hope to christ they do a better job on the respirators.

Had a 1987 Cavalier Z24. It was pretty good. But I agree GM had better do a good job on the respirators.

Wonder how GM can build respirators on such short notice. Didn't believe they could do much of anything on short notice except raise prices and beg for government bailouts.

Don't see much difference in the Chiraq weekend death toll. Figure plenty of people in that area will be out and about. Not like they pay any attention to laws or authority.

 

[Mr. Manchester]

So what do you think the weekend shooting number will be like for Chicago? No drop off , better or worse?

The state has politely asked its citizens to stop shooting each other in this time of crisis to free up hospital beds.

This is another effort by the white man to keep our beautiful black brothers and sisters oppressed and must be ignored.

It's a nice sunny 50 degree day.

It'll be a blood bath.

 

[JosephStalin]

Why would there be food shortages anyways? The disease isn't spread enough in any western countries to interrupt the supply chain by making the involved workers sick. If people just would keep buying food as normal, the stores would be filled just like usual. This panic buying is making everything just worse for everyone, especially if the supply chains do actually end up getting interrupted by worker shortages.
I've heard of people over here who did things like buying 40 pounds of sugar. Why the fuck would you do this? Under ANY circumstance?

That being said, I did a lot of research into this topic and read a lot of similar news pieces like the one above from several countries, inteviewing long lists of specialists. Food isn't really in danger to run out anywhere (especially essential food) so it's pretty likely people will just exhaust what they can buy and the stores will just end up stocking as normal. That's also probably why you see all western governments pretty much just ignoring the hoarding. Some kids from now some decades down the road will end up inheriting all that toilet paper their parents bought back in 2020 tho.

There's one problem though - Ethanol is running low.

In other news, the german government decreed that starting next month, nobody can be evicted from his home until at least september, no matter what. Also you can apply for unemployment money starting next month without the government doing any check into your finances. For those not knowing, applying for benefits is a long and very bureaucratic process where you have to give the government insight into all your finances. There was a lot of discussion and conflict over the years about this absolutely gargantulan apparatus and how expensive and red-tape covered it is. The government was always very set about not touching it and could only be barely kept from making it even more complicated. They just suspended that entire system overnight. They know shit is about to hit the fan economically.

The action of the locusts is that of fear and ignorance. Most people still at the "The sky is falling!" stage. Have seen signs at least one store saying they will not give refunds to anyone who bought overly large amounts of items and wants to bring them back later. Good. Fuck the locusts.

 

[iterator]

There's one problem though - Ethanol is running low.

Yes, it's entirely possible to live without food for several weeks, more if you are obese.

As long as you have running water, whether it's drinkable or not, you don't need toilet paper.

Potable liquid to drink is far more important. I recommend looking around for homebrewing 'starter kits' that give you the essentials- a fermenter, some bottles, and a bunch of other stuff if you want to get all scientific about it.

You don't need to think about this too hard. Just use the sterilizing powder in decently high concentrations to clean out your fermenter, then get canned malt with yeast to get you going. Heat the malt cans in boiling water to get it flowing easily, don't let it bulge and explode or anything, but heat them up and pour them in. Clean them out with boiling water poured on and filled with a bit of cold to get the most out of them, then fill up the rest of the fermenter up to 20L with cold water.

Make sure your airlock has enough water (with a little sterilizer added) to stop stuff getting in from outside, but not too much water that it washes back, and leave things until you don't hear a bubble more than once every minute or two. You can use a hydrometer if you want to be all flash.

Make sure you have sugar- ideally, special sugar drops, for maximum laziness- ready to add for that time. You can use small bottles or 2.25L Coke bottles if you want more of a session-sized drinking container. They need to be sterilized before adding the beer and the sugar for the secondary fermentation. It's all in the pouring.

As long as Anglosphere governments aren't serious about dealing with this problem, we may have to do a lot of drinking at home. It's important to be ready.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

Looks like i still didn't understood correctly... it's the fucking ELECTRICITY she shut down ... Oo that's 1000 time worse i would freak the f out if anyone cut the electricity in the middle of this !!!

Cutting the electricity could also kill people using stuff like oxygen tanks. This happened when a Californian electric company did the same thing awhile back.

 

[Dave.]

I

Seeing a lot of rural people starting to get pissed on Facebook groups.

They're starting to really call suburbanites and city dwellers "bug-people" and "locusts" and "parasites."

Lots of people leaving bigger cities to scour the countryside stores to buy up bread and the like and getting pissy if they're told that they can only have 1 per family or 1 per person. They've tried the "go out to the car and come back" shit and demand to talk to a managed when told no, then threaten to call the cops/lawyer if they're refused by the manager.

Know that a few towns around me are asking the cops to do something to stop these assholes from just descending on local stores like a fucking horde of locusts.

It's breeding a LOT of hatred and disdain toward city dwellers.

Guess eating bugs and living in the pod sounds good when you're consigning the lower class to doing it, but Karen isn't happy having to live in her bugkingdom while others get to go to the grocery store like a human.

On the plus side, hearing more trains. Saw a couple with "NO MED" and "NO FOOD" spraypainted on the cars.

I can confirm this. As a former rural Oregonian I fucking hate portlanders with a passion.

 

[CeleryStalks]

Re: Chicago, this is a website dedicated to tracking Chicago crime.

Chicago Crime, Murder & Mayhem | Criminal Infographics | HeyJackass!

Illustrating the Chicago Values of Crime, Murder & Mayhem with comprehensive charts, precise graphs and exhaustive data sets of Chicago stupidity.

heyjackass.com

Doesn't look like the last two weekends were much less violent than they usually are.

With Governor One-man Mass Gathering declaring a “stay-at-home” order to start this Saturday at 5pm, the usual assortment of jagoffs and ne’er-do-wells will continue to practice safe social distancing by shooting each other from at least six feet away.

 

[ultimate_racoon]

The media is letting the mask slip once again.

Meanwhile you get stuff like this from Rolling Stone
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Wrong thread for this question, sorry, but has anyone figured out why the media is like this? I feel like I missed something. It's like any news story, water found on mars, virus wipes out humanity, whatever, some journalist sits at home, does zero research or... journalism, and turns it into a blog on white nationalism is a serious threat, we need open borders, and we need communism. I just read that michael chrichton "media churns out speculation because it's cheap" article. I only have 2 guesses. One is that serious news got destroyed because zero research speculation is more profitable and this is the kind of stuff that gets the clicks. (so it's our fault?) Or journalists entered a career that got destroyed by this nonsense and they're pissed at people with real jobs so they dedicate their careers to tearing them down? I keep reading threads around here and other places and I listed to a couple "mad at the internets" and I keep thinking I'm gonna find the answer but I'm still baffled.

 

[JosephStalin]

Tlaib suggesting two $1 trillion coins be minted to finance a pretty far-reaching support plan.

Tlaib proposes minting two $1 trillion platinum coins to finance monthly coronavirus debit cards

This isn't the first time minting trillion-dollar coins has elicited serious discussion.

Trillion-dollar coin - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[eternal dog mongler]

For the first time in my life, I have been told by a doctor, "if you are sick, stay at home .... please .... do NOT go to my office or the hospital, unless you are running a fever and can not breathe."

That's the same advice I would give you too.

If you are short of breath, go to the hospital. If you are not short of breath God stay away.

Your symptoms may or may not be COVID-19. If you bumrush the emergency department right now then you probably will end up with worse stuff. Hospitals are insane germ factories.

I know you know this, but it's just what we're dealing with right now.

Also, PSA for people in this thread: please talk to your elderly family members about advance directives and DNRs. Being on a ventilator is not a fun experience. It feels like having a knife shoved down your throat.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

UK's doing plenty by this point and we're nowhere near italian levels of stupidity thanks to their "hug a chink" campaign.

I'm hoping that the UK's current very extreme lockdown will mean that in 7-14 days the number of new cases will peak and start to fall off.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

OTOH

March 21 (GMT)
alert 1035 new cases and 56 new deaths in the United Kingdom [source]

Add that in the graph and it hasn't peaked yet. Still there's a 7 to 14 day incubation period before the current lockdown ends. E.g. restaurants only closed on Friday. All those people stocking up now are working on the assumption they need to go into Deep NEET mode for a couple of weeks by which point the new cases will have peaked. Also I've got high hopes for hydroxychloroquinone, mentioned earlier. One problem is look at this shit

This is bad. The risk from Corona is that you end up with a situation where the number of people going into hospital with severe pneumonia and needing a ventillator spikes and the death rates go up. Happened in Italy and it looks to me like it's happening in the UK. The US healthcare system seems to be fighting a desperate battle too, but it's 60:40 instead of 75:25

Meanwhile Italy's healthcare system seems to have fought the virus to a standstill. Things got very bad but death and recovery rates seem to be converging on 50% plus or mins 5%

Having written all that it occurs to me that case outcomes might not be the same as your odds of surviving because case outcomes are at the end of the process and the recover:die ratio can change drastically from day to day.

Still you can see when Italy's healthcare system was overwhelmed worst, around February 25 there death:recover was 87%:12% and since then things have improved. Of course it might be that the mix of patients changed because more younger people got it.

 

[AmpleApricots]

hey're pulling a China. Go into the hospital with heart disease and COVID19? Die from your lungs filling with fluid and blood? "Oh, the poor thing died from heart disease." In other words, the German numbers are otherwise healthy people that died from Wu Flu without any other condition they could blame it on.

It's actually probably more widespread testing than other countries. If you compare the confirmed cases of germany with the confirmed cases of other countries and how many of these people are in a condition requiring hospitalization, you'll notice that in areas like many parts of the US and Spain/Italy/France many of the people that appear as confirmed are also hospitalized, meaning tests are only done on serious cases. NY now caught up with the testing also and has more than 10k confirmed but also less than 60 dead. I'm not saying this isn't very serious but you also have to remember that the virus is not super-deadly. There are orders of magnitude more people who'll literally shrug this virus off without ever seeing a doctor than there are people who will die from it.

 

[Shield Breaker]

Seeing a lot of rural people starting to get pissed on Facebook groups.

They're starting to really call suburbanites and city dwellers "bug-people" and "locusts" and "parasites."

Lots of people leaving bigger cities to scour the countryside stores to buy up bread and the like and getting pissy if they're told that they can only have 1 per family or 1 per person. They've tried the "go out to the car and come back" shit and demand to talk to a managed when told no, then threaten to call the cops/lawyer if they're refused by the manager.

Know that a few towns around me are asking the cops to do something to stop these assholes from just descending on local stores like a fucking horde of locusts.

It's breeding a LOT of hatred and disdain toward city dwellers.

Guess eating bugs and living in the pod sounds good when you're consigning the lower class to doing it, but Karen isn't happy having to live in her bugkingdom while others get to go to the grocery store like a human.

On the plus side, hearing more trains. Saw a couple with "NO MED" and "NO FOOD" spraypainted on the cars.

This is why I have repeatedly told people who talk about 'escaping the city' to not do it unless they have someone to stay with. By the time that happens, those in the countryside are going to be very resentful of the city dwellers.

 

[Dave.]

Ap

Seeing a lot of rural people starting to get pissed on Facebook groups.

They're starting to really call suburbanites and city dwellers "bug-people" and "locusts" and "parasites."

Lots of people leaving bigger cities to scour the countryside stores to buy up bread and the like and getting pissy if they're told that they can only have 1 per family or 1 per person. They've tried the "go out to the car and come back" shit and demand to talk to a managed when told no, then threaten to call the cops/lawyer if they're refused by the manager.

Know that a few towns around me are asking the cops to do something to stop these assholes from just descending on local stores like a fucking horde of locusts.

It's breeding a LOT of hatred and disdain toward city dwellers.

Guess eating bugs and living in the pod sounds good when you're consigning the lower class to doing it, but Karen isn't happy having to live in her bugkingdom while others get to go to the grocery store like a human.

On the plus side, hearing more trains. Saw a couple with "NO MED" and "NO FOOD" spraypainted on the cars.

Also can you share some of these posts? I could use some drama right now lol

 

[JosephStalin]

In the "Well, fuck me to tears" department...

Just put some eyedrops in the eyes. Recommended by optometrist this week. Looked at the bottle (Blink lubricating eye drops). Stuff is made in...China. Then I checked a bottle of Zaditor antihistamine eye drops. Using both these days. Zaditor is made in....Italy.

You can't make this shit up.

Fuck me to tears.

 

[wokelizard]

Yes, it's entirely possible to live without food for several weeks, more if you are obese.

As long as you have running water, whether it's drinkable or not, you don't need toilet paper.

Potable liquid to drink is far more important. I recommend looking around for homebrewing 'starter kits' that give you the essentials- a fermenter, some bottles, and a bunch of other stuff if you want to get all scientific about it.

You don't need to think about this too hard. Just use the sterilizing powder in decently high concentrations to clean out your fermenter, then get canned malt with yeast to get you going. Heat the malt cans in boiling water to get it flowing easily, don't let it bulge and explode or anything, but heat them up and pour them in. Clean them out with boiling water poured on and filled with a bit of cold to get the most out of them, then fill up the rest of the fermenter up to 20L with cold water.

Make sure your airlock has enough water (with a little sterilizer added) to stop stuff getting in from outside, but not too much water that it washes back, and leave things until you don't hear a bubble more than once every minute or two. You can use a hydrometer if you want to be all flash.

Make sure you have sugar- ideally, special sugar drops, for maximum laziness- ready to add for that time. You can use small bottles or 2.25L Coke bottles if you want more of a session-sized drinking container. They need to be sterilized before adding the beer and the sugar for the secondary fermentation. It's all in the pouring.

As long as Anglosphere governments aren't serious about dealing with this problem, we may have to do a lot of drinking at home. It's important to be ready.

I love brewing so I hope you don't mind if I add a few points to this. Oxygen is your FRIEND to start with, because the yeast need it to multiply to start working, so once it's in your sterile fermentation vessel, give it a *really* good shake for a while, get as much air mixed in as you can, get it proper frothy. Don't add yeast til it's cooled right down, or they'll be very unhappy about it. Once it's sealed up and started fermenting though, oxygen is your ENEMY, so try to be careful when bottling/syphoning later on not to splash it all over the place. Hops add bitterness the longer you boil them, but they lose complexity and aroma so save some to chuck in after you've finished the boil and it'll smell and taste much better!

 

[large_farva]

*fuck it i'll make a part 2, posted before i was done. oops

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[mr.moon1488]

USA has stormed into third place in the total infections category, overtaking Spain with 6,513 new cases. 41st for cases per 1 million population though, so could be worse.

Who's actually leading per capita? That number would be kind of telling as to who is getting hit the worst.

 

[remiem]

Is Corona-Chan doing her lap dance in Saskatchewan?

It's lab back-up, supply issues, and lack of testing facilities. That's why Canada is jumping in cases. I think we're getting more labs being able to label cases as confirmed instead of just presumptive and more provinces are opening up testing facilities in other areas. Canada is basically city or rural so there's some logistic issues with getting testing done in more remote places.

It's why on this tracker you'll see the bulk of the cases are in the major cities. Easier access to testing.

SK also has a swab shortage.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Peru's government is refusing to let thousands of Americans to leave, effectively taking them hostage. They are demanding the US facilitate the return of their citizens first. They are also demanding the US organize and pay for the repatriation of Perus citizens in the US. if the US does not comply no aircraft wi be allowed to land.

Peru spars with U.S. over letting stranded Americans fly home during coronavirus outbreak

The South American nation wants assurances that its citizens will be given safe passage back from the U.S. before Americans are allowed to leave, sources close to the situation say.

www.politico.com