Why is the United States of America specifically the target of certain kinds of globalist pseudo-altruism?

[AnOminous]

If there is a group of 1000000 people, and 5% of them are criminals, and all criminals get locked up, then 50000 people get incarcerated.

If there is a group of 5000000 people, and only 3.5% of them are criminals, and all criminals get locked up, then despite the lower relative proportion of criminality, that would still be 175000 people becoming incarcerated.

That was the general principle behind my argument. Especially since terms like "per capita" (which means "per individual") are meaningless in this context.

No they fucking aren't. And the chart specifically said per 100,000.

Per capita, by percentage, the U.S. locks up vastly more people than any other country, even runners-up like Russia.

If you are an American, you are vastly more likely to be incarcerated than anywhere else in the world.

 

[LullerDerbyRollin]

I so wanna get into this little shitting competition. I'm so done with the mind fuckingly blatant passive aggression Euros have to America. Like, even with my shitty Euro friends I have to hear about how much worse America is then their shitty countries? Even when they're from the fucking UK or Dutch?

Ya sure, I wanna get in this pissing contest, I've been waiting to blow off some steam. For how good and nice Euros are, you guys sure love to show that off as passive aggressively as you can, which makes no sense. Even this fucking thread is "Why do you Euros hate America so much you have to wank off on the internet about it?" and the sheer belligerence to any idea that you might be fucking annoying rather than try and answer it like how you say you are.
Pity? Please, your pity is to shitty immigrants that came to leech off you.
The fucking EU and the countries within it have done the absolute fucking worst to freedom of speech on the internet and the most you can say is "guns bad" or "you're all stupid, why don't you live like us?"
Oh and please, go fuck off with 9/11 jokes, every country in Europe has been hilariously fucked up and over worse than the US ever has. Euros can't even make funny jokes about it, we meme that shit better.

I am winning my top hat. Just so I can blow more steam out it!

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

And now this thread has become a debate about mass-incarceration.

No they fucking aren't. And the chart specifically said per 100,000.

So it's not a "per capita" chart then. It's a "per 100000 people" chart. Misusing terms like you just were makes them meaningless.

Beyond the semantics of this argument:

Per capita, by percentage, the U.S. locks up vastly more people than any other country, even runners-up like Russia.

If you are an American, you are vastly more likely to be incarcerated than anywhere else in the world.

I already provided an explanation for why this was the case. But let me retell it in concise form.

The US population being higher than all of the other countries in that graphic, combined with various elements of its culture (like inner city ghetto culture), creates far more criminality in proportion to population size than in any European country (although Europe may be closing the gap fast with certain policies), which creates far more criminals, which means far more people get arrested. While private prison system lobbyists do play a factor, the most important part is the sheer amount of the greater American population that engages in criminal behavior. Private prisons wouldn't have become so profitable in the first place without major criminal elements in the American population. Or maybe it's more of a chicken-and-egg thing of self-reinforcing cycles.

I see the graph of "incarceration rates per 100000" of being indicative of "amount of (caught and/or punished) criminals per 100000" (if the incarceration rate graph is accurate to begin with) not necessarily as proof of some super-repressive American prison industrial complex.

 

[AnOminous]

And now this thread has become a debate about mass-incarceration.

So it's not a "per capita" chart then. It's a "per 100000 people" chart. Misusing terms like you just were makes them meaningless.

You have no fucking clue what you're talking about. The "capita" in "per capita" is fucking plural, it means "heads." While it often is used to refer to by per single individual measurements, this is technically incorrect and that would be per CAPUT. But only an absolutely autistic lunatic would ever not understand something because of that.

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

You have no fucking clue what you're talking about. The "capita" in "per capita" is fucking plural, it means "heads." While it often is used to refer to by per single individual measurements, this is technically incorrect and that would be per CAPUT. But only an absolutely autistic lunatic would ever not understand something because of that.

The "technically correct" usage of the term per capita has no bearing here, because nobody uses or defines it in the "technically correct" manner, but in the "per individual person" manner.

You're getting yourself worked up over literal semantics right now.

 

[AnOminous]

The "technically correct" usage of the term per capita has no bearing here, because nobody uses or defines it in the "technically correct" manner, but in the "per individual person" manner.

You're getting yourself worked up over literal semantics right now.

You're being deliberately obtuse. Fuck off.

 

[mr.moon1488]

And now this thread has become a debate about mass-incarceration.

So it's not a "per capita" chart then. It's a "per 100000 people" chart. Misusing terms like you just were makes them meaningless.

Beyond the semantics of this argument:
I already provided an explanation for why this was the case. But let me retell it in concise form.

The US population being higher than all of the other countries in that graphic, combined with various elements of its culture (like inner city ghetto culture), creates far more criminality in proportion to population size than in any European country (although Europe may be closing the gap fast with certain policies), which creates far more criminals, which jeans far more people get arrested. While private prison system lobbyists do play a factor, the most important part is the sheer amount of the greater American population that engage in criminal behavior. Private prisons wouldn't have become so profitable in the first place without major criminal elements in the American population. Or maybe it's more of a chicken-and-egg thing of self-reinforcing cycles.

I see the graph of "incarceration rates per 100000" of being indicative of "amount of (caught and/or punished) criminals per 100000" (if the incarceration rate graph is accurate to begin with) not necessarily as proof of some super-repressive American prison industrial complex.

People also forget that dark-figure crime numbers in some countries are likely to be absolutely massive, and that many countries use fines, restrictions, corporal punishments, or even slavery as their primary method's of punishments.

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

You're being deliberately obtuse. Fuck off.

No, I will not, because I'm not being "deliberately obtuse" and this is my own thread that I made. If you don't like the way it's going, then you can leave, since nobody forced you to post in it in the first place.

This thread has gotten so derailed, by Yahuwah.

 

[byuu]

I didn't hate Americans before.
But I do now after reading this thread.

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

I didn't hate Americans before.
But I do now after reading this thread.

This is just a phase that you're going through. It'll pass.

 

[Turnip_Head]

And now this thread has become a debate about mass-incarceration.

So it's not a "per capita" chart then. It's a "per 100000 people" chart. Misusing terms like you just were makes them meaningless.

Beyond the semantics of this argument:
I already provided an explanation for why this was the case. But let me retell it in concise form.

The US population being higher than all of the other countries in that graphic, combined with various elements of its culture (like inner city ghetto culture), creates far more criminality in proportion to population size than in any European country (although Europe may be closing the gap fast with certain policies), which creates far more criminals, which means far more people get arrested. While private prison system lobbyists do play a factor, the most important part is the sheer amount of the greater American population that engages in criminal behavior. Private prisons wouldn't have become so profitable in the first place without major criminal elements in the American population. Or maybe it's more of a chicken-and-egg thing of self-reinforcing cycles.

I see the graph of "incarceration rates per 100000" of being indicative of "amount of (caught and/or punished) criminals per 100000" (if the incarceration rate graph is accurate to begin with) not necessarily as proof of some super-repressive American prison industrial complex.

So tl;dr you’re saying that the prison system is fair, but Americans have just have a high population of criminals.
So using incarceration per capita as proof for a “corrupt” prison system is disingenuous. Since not all countries populations are the same, in number or culture.

There, much less autistic.

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

So tl;dr you’re saying that the prison system is fair, but Americans have just have a high population of criminals.
So using incarceration per capita as proof for a “corrupt” prison system is disingenuous. Since not all countries populations are the same, in number or culture.

There, easy.

That was my point, yes.

 

[Foghot]

OP: Why do globalists hate america? Discuss.

Amercians: 'Cause we own.

Euro: lmao shart in mart

'muricans:

 

[Lurkio]

OP: Why do globalists hate america? Discuss.

Amercians: 'Cause we own.

Euro: lmao shart in mart

'muricans: View attachment 1198002

HEY! We Americans go bigger and harder at everything then any other country in the world, and you can bet your ass that includes makin retards of ourselves on the internet.

 

[Syaoran Li]

C'mon, Europe! You used to be cool and with it! What happened?

Oh, right....that whole World War I thing.

 

[biozeminadae1]

We don't hate you. We pity you.

Dude, the other half of Europe would be a shithole if it wasn't for America, or am I to suppose to believe that Western Europeans themselves could have beaten the Soviet Union?
Writing as an Eastern European.

 

[Profilmenn]

and we have fought in every stupid fucking war you started for no reason and slaughtered thousands in your name for no personal gain

*ahem*
WORLD WAR TWO

and a major barrier to these things coming to fruition in the United States is an egotistical resistance to them among many of it's citizens. I don't think it's bigoted to suggest that America can, and should, do better.

I don't want your Eurofag socialism and I don't consider it to be a good system. Disliking your massive social programs isn't egotistical. In fact it seems pretty egotistical of you to assume that we're simply morons who don't understand the glory of Eurotrash government.

I would really love for the USA to stop caring about Europe and leave NATO. These countries started the two deadliest wars in human history and I'm expected to believe they can't fucking defend themselves?

 

[Mad Asshatter]

Getting back to the original topic of the OP...

America is expected to solve the world's problems. Far-Left Liberals love 'brown people,' so they want America to be the nanny country and be open borders, give them free stuff, and excuse bad behavior because they are 'brown.' Fuck helping them improve their own country, fuck expecting them to abide by national laws of a sovereign country, and double, triple and quadruple fuck the legal immigrants from that country who spent years, money, and effort to do the right thing, yet they don't get given an ear to say their piece against these freeloaders.

 

[TaterBot]

OP asks why.
My own pet conspiracy theory is because of that poem by Emma Lazarus on the Statue of Liberty. You know the one. She wasn't interested in brown people, though. (They were off taking care of themselves somewhere at that time.) She was helping the Russian J e w s who wanted to come to America.
And then there's the Open Immigration Act of 1965. Check that out for more J E W I S H shenanigans, you goyim and shkutz.

dammit Null.

 

[Hellbound Hellhound]

I don't want your Eurofag socialism and I don't consider it to be a good system. Disliking your massive social programs isn't egotistical. In fact it seems pretty egotistical of you to assume that we're simply morons who don't understand the glory of Eurotrash government.

You might be forced to reexamine this claim when the ineffectiveness of your patchwork healthcare system to deal with the coronavirus pandemic causes millions of your fellow countrymen to needlessly suffer.

I've already brought up the fact that Europe has lower levels of incarceration but still manages to have lower levels of criminality and recidivism than the United States, but the European argument on healthcare is even stronger.

Every European country spends less per capita than the US does on healthcare, and yet, we manage to have healthcare systems that are both coordinated to maximize public health, and free at the point of use. How is that not a measurably better system in your estimation?