Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off


Lol oh please
Lmao and its Greg Grunberg aka Snap "Chuck" Wexley making the claim of all people.
She walked right towards me, wrapped her arms around me and grabbed my ass. And I didn’t even know her! I was thinking, ‘This is Carrie Fisher! I’m such a fan’. So, she did that, and J.J. walked up to me and goes, ‘Welcome to Star Wars‘.”
Yeah sure. But if JJ ever did say anything like that, the mere thought of it makes me cringe more than this claim and the people on Twitter claiming this is assault.
 
Lmao and its Greg Grunberg aka Snap "Chuck" Wexley making the claim of all people.

Yeah sure. But if JJ ever did say anything like that, the mere thought of it makes me cringe more than this claim and the people on Twitter claiming this is assault.
That's the same actor who whined about his character getting killed off, he's doing it for attention.
 
The more I hear about TCW Season 7, the more inclined I am to ignore it, and banish it from my mutated head-canon of TCW 1-6, Gennedy Wars, and the Clone Wars Multimedia project.

Which is even easier to do given all the alterations Season 7 has gone under Disney/Filoni, rendering it the only season of the show that was made without Lucas' supervision, and therefore illegitimate.


Well, I suppose this is why I can't be considered a good authority when it comes to what looks superior in a film, because what I look for in CGI and special effects in general isn't how "real" it looks. The realness of practical effects or CGI, and the way people interact with it, doesn't do a whole lot for me specifically, because to me I know it's all fake anyway. I know some people are caught up on what looks real to them and how actors interacting with something enhances that immersion, but that was never how my brain worked. Be it the shittiest or most dated CGI, or the most pristine puppetry or animatronics, the thing I care about most is what design either of those effects are trying to convey.

The CGI in the Prequels looks fuzzy, badly-composited, and poorly-implemented throughout several instances, but I was too enamored with the designs being conveyed through those effects to care. By contrast, modern films like the ST has some of the most realistic contemporary CGI to date, but that doesn't mean shit to someone like me when the design work is so bland and forgettable. I'm never going to remember any of the recycled, generic ship types or bland alien designs or static planetary locations in the ST, no matter how "real" they look. But the ships, planets and aliens of the PT? Those designs will stay with me forever. Even the poorly-conveyed CGI sequences that people poke holes at, like the badly-composited aliens in the Pod Race or the green screen environments like the Jedi Temple or Utapau, I'm too busy marveling at how creative all of the designs are. One of my favorite scenes in all of Star Wars is the Beast Arena Scene on Geonosis....none of it looks real or convincing in the slightest, and yet the monster designs and landscape are like something straight out of John Carter: Warlord Of Mars, and make me gush over it regardless.

When it comes to Yoda, his design is the same whether in CG or Puppet form. As stated, I care more about the design being conveyed than how real it looks. And while PT Yoda doesn't look more real, that version stays with me because of the kind of expressions that are conveyed through his model, dated as it may be.

I guess it all just comes down to the fact that I have a larger affinity for the artistic design of film than the technical aspects that allow for realism. It's one of the reasons I gravitate more towards animation than live-action film...and the PT looks wholly unrealistic, and like one big live-action cartoon. One that hasn't aged well in the technical sense at all, but like all the dated cartoons I love, convey designs and visuals that stay with me long past their expiration date.


I think you might've misinterpreted what I meant by "I don't know if you could pull those [expressions] off with the limited range of the Puppet Yoda". I didn't mean that a puppet couldn't pull off the same dynamic range of expressions. Far from it.

The 1990 TMNT Movie showcased animatronic puppet faces that were capable of a wealth of expressions, that still look fluid and varied today. Other films have showcased similar effects as well. It is certainly doable with puppetry. What I'm saying is that the puppet used for Yoda in ESB and ROTJ didn't have that kind of expressive range. His emotional reactions were kind of limited to widening his eyes or clamping his mouth into a disapproving scowl, which is fine, but the rest of his face doesn't really change, and makes him look a bit static. Puppet Yoda is still a nice piece of puppetry, but I think a better puppet could've conveyed a wider ranger of expressions....which we unfortunately, never got. We did get those with CG Yoda, not because those expressions were only possible in CG, but because we never saw a truly advanced puppet on the same level of something like TMNT, for example. Or any of the puppet effects on display at the conventions you mentioned.

One would hope that a modern attempt at Puppet Yoda would be more expressive than the one we got in the 80's, but the TLJ one looked just as static and limited as the original. They could've easily put the money into making the most dynamic and emotive Puppet Yoda to date, but Rian Johnson funneled all of that money into shit like the lactating alien manatee, and the Casino Planet.


I'm all for Yoda using a lightsaber---but that's mostly because it fits the "unassuming but secretly lethal martial arts master" archetype that I enjoy in other fiction, like Nicotine Caffeine in the Samurai Shodown games or Master Hozoin from Vagabond. It never seemed shlocky or goofy to me, except when he made those weird noises during the Dooku fight. In fact, it made logical sense to me that someone as small as Yoda would make up for his small height and short reach with his blade by performing high leaps. It's no different than Kazdan Paratus using his droid harness to make up for the same time of physical setbacks in The Force Unleashed (one of the only things I liked about that game).

The only thing I didn't like were those weird growling noises Yoda made during the Dooku fight. Glad that George had the good sense to remove that from all future incidents of Yoda fighting in ROTS and TCW.
I agree, there's a lot to be said for production design, and the prequels did a fantastic job of portraying a different period in the Star Wars timeline. It's very different from the rough and dirty of the Rebellion or Mos Eisley, while also being different from the stark and utilitarian Empire. Yet at the same time, it still feels like you're in the same universe as the original trilogy, and you can see the things to come in various designs (the obvious example here being the Venator cruisers that would evolve into the Star Destroyers). Everything really fits together into a cohesive whole, even if there are some parts that are a little out-there (Dexter Jettster's 50's diner?).

I'd still take the four-armed lumpy diner owner over anything in the Disney trilogy though. It's nothing but uninspired rehashes of original trilogy designs, everything going back to the status quo because that's all hack frauds like JJ can write. The aliens are fleshy walrus-looking fuckers, with none of the species we've come to know and love. Hell, you don't even get a lot of droids beyond the fucking soccer ball. It's all so bland, a mediocre facsimile of good designs.

My general point is that regardless of production design, it's easier to suspend disbelief when you know something on screen is real. Think of it like one less layer of abstraction: you already know you're watching a film on a screen, but seeing something real that was filmed is easier for your brain to process than seeing real characters interact with fake elements. I don't generally have a problem with suspension of disbelief when it comes to visual effects, but CGI doesn't wow me like it used to. So it's kind of a personal preference thing for me; I appreciate when classic, practical effects are used instead of taking the "easy" way out and doing a lot of it in the computer. And I'm not trying to shit on VFX artists, I know their job can be pretty damn intensive in its own right. It's just my own preference.

I also agree that the Yoda puppet in TLJ was pretty meh, and it really did look like they just pulled one from the 80's out of storage instead of creating a new one with modern methods. CGI Yoda was certainly way more expressive than the puppet ever was, but I would have been fine either way. Kid skel had no problems with puppet Yoda in TPM, nor did he have problems with CGI Yoda in AOTC/ROTS. It's only when he became a jaded cynical adult skel that he started overanalyzing shit.

Point taken about the "martial arts master in disguise" trope, I enjoy it too. I just personally don't think it fit Yoda very well. I think that could have worked with Mace Windu better if he were portrayed as more of a meditative sort in TPM. We just didn't get to see him enough for him to build up that kind of reputation only to pull the bait and switch in AOTC. Plus, it's Samuel L. Jackson, you kind of expect him to be badass. I dunno, just spitballing.
 
So we heard you all liked the Mandalorean so we're gonna now give you more but we're going to shove all this undesirable shit in it that we've been trying to force on you with 3 other failed attempts.
This is my fear, they are pissed we like the Mandalorian and not their other trash so now they will purposely sabotage the series out of spite. That is what these type of people do, they seek to destroy things that are established, traditional and successful and terrorize content and happy people. These people are mentally ill freaks and misfits that should be ridiculed out of our lives.
 
Did you see without a trace. Two black woman with literally mental illness haircuts. Its happening.

Also sounds like the rest of the episodes will be more Asohka wank. Rather than show Thrawn teaming up with Padme, Filoni has decided not to rip of Zahn this time and go it alone. So we'll get a nothing space filler sat in Mon Cal where "will Palpatine be revealed?" Spoiler no. And the invasion of Mandalore! which is supposed to cover Order 66 and cringe warning, feature rex and his squad painting asohka colors on their fucking armor.
I have no intention of watching that distorted garbage, as soon as I saw they changed the characters months ago I knew I would not have anything to do with it. This is Filonis work for all of y'all that still love him.
 
Here's the problem with Brie Larson

She's too fucking young.

Jennifer Lawrence kept playing roles that were clearly way too young for her.

Same with Brie. First, Carol Danvers (lol u expect me to believe she's in the air force in the 90s?) and now Mara Jade.
 
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Why dose Ahsoka get the half the 501st? She's not a Jedi anymore.
Dave Filoni dose not always put thought into his self serving story decisions.
That's the same actor who whined about his character getting killed off, he's doing it for attention.
Certainly, he only made the claim years after Carrie's death and when he got upset at the criticisms of Jar Jar Abrams.
 
Why dose Ahsoka get the half the 501st? She's not a Jedi anymore.

Fioloni wants her be in clone wars but at the same time she has to not be a Jedi so she can survive to Mandalorian. Remember Yoda, last Jedi is Luke. So she's a Jedi but not. It's him coping out to keep his OC alive.

I'll just say this. The Old CW cartoon had its flaws, but it left room for more to happen off screen.

Remember Revenge of the Sith? That's the endgame. The Jedi Council has to view Anakin with distrust. As unworthy of being a Master. The old cartoon didn't do that, but it left room where that could happen offscreen. New clone wars does not. Its covered the period. Yes Anakin has had brief moments. But they have all been off screen or the result of space god shit. Nothing to get us to the relationship we see in Sith. Which is fine if you leave blank spots but Filoni is literally covered everything with Season 7.

Asohka doesn't stand on her own, she was introduced as Anakin's PADWAN. That's crucial. And they just avoided. She didn't leave because of his failure, didn't fall to the dark side.
 
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Fioloni wants her be in clone wars but at the same time she has to not be a Jedi so she can survive to Mandalorian. Remember Yoda, last Jedi is Luke. So she's a Jedi but not. It's him coping out to keep his OC alive.
Dave filoni has pulled so many Asspulls to keep her alive, I like her but there are better ways to keep your chatacther alive Dave.
 
Dave filoni has pulled so many Asspulls to keep her alive, I like her but there are better ways to keep your chatacther alive Dave.
She had a perfect sendoff when she left the Jedi order feeling betrayed, but Dave Filoni couldn't follow through and had to have her be the hero of The Clone Wars.
 
Dave filoni has pulled so many Asspulls to keep her alive, I like her but there are better ways to keep your chatacther alive Dave.
The funny thing is I think she was a good character, but this was a case of the Author's Pet ruining that. A character like her had a time to go due to her nature as a prequel character who should not live through it, and he refused to let go. In fact, he continues to force her in everything for money, making her actually annoying.

It's kind of how Spongebob became nothing but the Sheldon and Eugene Show. But with more pedophilia and overbudgeted wolves.
 
The funny thing is I think she was a good character, but this was a case of the Author's Pet ruining that. A character like her had a time to go due to her nature as a prequel character who should not live through it, and he refused to let go. In fact, he continues to force her in everything for money, making her actually annoying.
shouldn't have kept my hopes up that she wouldn't appear in the Mandalorian.
 
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The thing that Filoni doesn't realize with the hoops he leaps through to keep Ahsoka alive is that it actually does a disservice to the character, especially in the eyes of people who like her. Ahoska's characterization and growth throughout TCW was very rich and well-earned, but a lot of that had to do with her interactions with Anakin. Lucas literally greenlit Ahsoka to be an emotional counter-balance to Anakin's character, another form of attachment that would further his descent towards the anxiety-ridden, over-attached mess we see him to be in ROTS. That was the entire point to Ahsoka's character, regardless of what Filoni tries to say or do in retrospect.

And when you remove Anakin from the equation, and start inserting her in purposeless, glorified filler like the Siege of Mandalore or post-ROTJ stories like the Mandalorian, after she's already fulfilled much of her narrative purpose and has virtually no growing left to do, her inclusion is little more than cheap pandering and shallow fan-service, which is a complete dump on her character. And Filoni doesn't even realize he's doing it.

Some people would posit that you could make a similar argument for Luke Skywalker in the EU, another character that had reached a satisfying arc and had completed most of his narrative purpose by ROTJ's end. Isn't having more stories with him shallow fan-service as well? And the answer is, no: the difference between Luke's continuing adventures after ROTJ (in the EU, at least), and Ahsoka popping up in shit after TCW is that Luke actually has stuff left to do: he has a Jedi Order to build, apprentices to foster and guide, romance to kindle with Mara Jade, a son to raise in Ben Skywalker, and new ethical dilemmas to face as the Head of the Jedi Order, to say nothing of family squabbles with the likes of Jacen Solo/Darth Caedus.

What does Ahsoka have left to do? She's not a member of the Jedi Order anymore. The writers seem insistent on teasing a love interest for her but never committing to it, which by proxy means that any offspring is out of the question. The only thing she really had left was to be a contributing member of the Rebel Alliance, but even that has its limitations. The stakes of Luke training as the last of the Jedi throughout the OT are actually damaged by Ahsoka being present, considering she's another Light Side Force User who could easily give the Rebellion aide against the likes of Vader, but inexplicably is missing for most of the action. This is the same problem Rebels ran into by having people like Ezra and Canan around just prior to ANH and solved by putting them out of commission right before the start of the Galactic Civil War. And then Filoni fucks that remedied situation up by resurrecting Ahsoka, to be inexplicably absent during the OT when her help was needed the most. That actively ruins the character for people who liked her, because that makes her look like a coward at best and a traitor at worst.

I say all of this as someone who loves TCW, likes Rebels okay, and has a modicum of respect for Filoni: This is where his fanfic-levels of character sheparding actively hurt the canon, and more specifically, the character herself, whether he realizes it or not. And that is why I block Rebels from my headcanon. It's an engaging show with likeable characters, and is far and away superior to the ST, but isn't compatible with what's been estanlished.

At best, it's a fun Elseworlds/Infinites storyline in my mind.
 
The thing that Filoni doesn't realize with the hoops he leaps through to keep Ahsoka alive is that it actually does a disservice to the character, especially in the eyes of people who like her. Ahoska's characterization and growth throughout TCW was very rich and well-earned, but a lot of that had to do with her interactions with Anakin. Lucas literally greenlit Ahsoka to be an emotional counter-balance to Anakin's character, another form of attachment that would further his descent towards the anxiety-ridden, over-attached mess we see him to be in ROTS. That was the entire point to Ahsoka's character, regardless of what Filoni tries to say or do in retrospect.

And when you remove Anakin from the equation, and start inserting her in purposeless, glorified filler like the Siege of Mandalore or post-ROTJ stories like the Mandalorian, after she's already fulfilled much of her narrative purpose and has virtually no growing left to do, her inclusion is little more than cheap pandering and shallow fan-service, which is a complete dump on her character. And Filoni doesn't even realize he's doing it.

Some people would posit that you could make a similar argument for Luke Skywalker in the EU, another character that had reached a satisfying arc and had completed most of his narrative purpose by ROTJ's end. Isn't having more stories with him shallow fan-service as well? And the answer is, no: the difference between Luke's continuing adventures after ROTJ (in the EU, at least), and Ahsoka popping up in shit after TCW is that Luke actually has stuff left to do: he has a Jedi Order to build, apprentices to foster and guide, romance to kindle with Mara Jade, a son to raise in Ben Skywalker, and new ethical dilemmas to face as the Head of the Jedi Order, to say nothing of family squabbles with the likes of Jacen Solo/Darth Caedus.

What does Ahsoka have left to do? She's not a member of the Jedi Order anymore. The writers seem insistent on teasing a love interest for her but never committing to it, which by proxy means that any offspring is out of the question. The only thing she really had left was to be a contributing member of the Rebel Alliance, but even that has its limitations. The stakes of Luke training as the last of the Jedi throughout the OT are actually damaged by Ahsoka being present, considering she's another Light Side Force User who could easily give the Rebellion aide against the likes of Vader, but inexplicably is missing for most of the action. This is the same problem Rebels ran into by having people like Ezra and Canan around just prior to ANH and solved by putting them out of commission right before the start of the Galactic Civil War. And then Filoni fucks that remedied situation up by resurrecting Ahsoka, to be inexplicably absent during the OT when her help was needed the most. That actively ruins the character for people who liked her, because that makes her look like a coward at best and a traitor at worst.

I say all of this as someone who loves TCW, likes Rebels okay, and has a modicum of respect for Filoni: This is where his fanfic-levels of character sheparding actively hurt the canon, and more specifically, the character herself, whether he realizes it or not. And that is why I block Rebels from my headcanon. It's an engaging show with likeable characters, and is far and away superior to the ST, but isn't compatible with what's been estanlished.

At best, it's a fun Elseworlds/Infinites storyline in my mind.
For my money, the best depiction of Anakin was Genndy's CW when he goes through the trial to rescue those alien natives who were kidnapped and enslaved by the Separatists. What made it work so well is that you could plainly see Anakin was doing a good thing (rescuing slaves) but something was wrong with how he was doing it. At the end, you can see a moment where he pulls back from the dark side - and it's easy to see how he would would fail another time in the future. George should have capitalized on that and shown in RotS not a nightmare of Padme's fate bothering Anakin, but a war-weary man who just wants to bring peace to the galaxy - even if he has to do so on a pile of bodies.

You're completely right, Ashoka should have died (heck, be killed right before e3 to further push Anakin) and given a love child for Feloni to use to carry on his waifu's legacy.

I got the first Kanan TPB and plan on reading it to see if anything improves, but it's pretty clear that Rebels should have had just the worst Jedi ever. Kanan shouldn't have been strong in the force and lose his master early, keeping him forever gimped in the ways of the force - he shouldn't even have had a lightsaber. Ezra should have never existed. But if he had existed, he should have been like Kanan as well - something of a joke, a force user with power levels barely above a stormtrooper - and it should have been clear that they were no match for Vader. The whole series should have had a running theme that demonstrating any aspect of the jedi was a death sentence as it brought down Vader's wrath wherever you are - thus showing us how important Luke is and why Obi-Wan & Yoda did things the way they did.

One thing I love about the 2d CW is that they really feel like a galaxy wide conflict. You see battles at random-ass planets with maybe 1 named character in them and the climaxes of every season are those moments where TWO named characters happen to intersect and do battle.

Unless it's changed in later seasons, what I've seen of 3d CW and Rebels gives me the opposite impression. A galaxy-wide conflict SHOULD give a writer plenty of room to run stories without screwing up canon. But no, almost every time there's an episode, several major figures of one side or the other show up; like you could never have battles at 3 different planets simultaneously.

Likewise the Rebels characters can't be helping out the rebellion in remote spots - they always seem to run into Thrawn, or Vader, or Inquisitors. Do they ever have just a random, mid-ranked Imperial officer pursue them for several episodes? Does a random bureaucrat ever give them a challenge?

I mean fucking Durge is a badass that gives Kenobi a serious challenge in the 2D show - and he's just on a planet protecting a bunch of BANKERS! From what I understand, the closest equivalent the other shows ever gave us were Cad Bane (the bounty hunter?) and that pirate (hondo?) - and they were nearly jokes.
 
Ahsoka should have died in Rebels as a hero that saved Kanan and Ezra as she was cut down by her former master. Plain and simple. Give us the ending we waited for and give her a hero's death. That would have been best for the character and a pay off to 8 seasons (6 of CW, 2 of Rebels) worth of build up.

I understand why Filoni doesn't want to kill her. She is his greatest contribution to Star Wars, and I can understand the attachment there, but Zahn's greatest contributions to Star Wars were Thrawn and Mara Jade, and, well, yeah.
 
Okay... something really weird is going on. A lot of SW chats (even ones that were infected to the brim with Disney drones) have been talking about old canon stuff for a few days now, and even Wookieepedo, one of the epicenters of Disney faggotry in the last few years, has had a tremendously strange dip/rise in traffic. There's been a tremendous dip in activity for Disney articles and old canon articles are really popular right now. Only reason I even know this is because of a friend with special rights over there, but even if you go over there and check the categories based on most popular to least popular (as well as the visible "popular pages" section on the sidebar, which is limited to 5 for regular users) all of it is Legends at the top or at least Canon articles based on Legends stuff. Even fucking Waru and the Jeby of all things are trending again despite being on the bottom of statistics for 5 years since Disney shitters took over the site. The only Canon stuff near the top is generic shit like Kylo, Rey, Porgs and Holdo.
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Right now the #1 article keeps fluctuating between Darth Nihilus and Starweirds. (Anyone whose played KOTOR2 knows who Nihilus is and the Starweirds have been discussed thoroughly in this thread as evil space drifting Dark Side specters)

Imperial Sentinels from Dark Empire keep fluctuating between 2 and 3. (They were the Emperor's new genetically altered guards on Byss during Dark Empire whose designs were based on the unused royal guard art for ROTJ and later the armor worn by Atha Prime, an old unused villain from an unused ROTJ sequel project pitched by companies in the 80s who was briefly brought back for consideration in the the sequel trilogy's conceptual phase)

At #4 is the bringer of misery and the big kahuna Sith Goddess herself, Abeloth, who hasn't held a spot like this since 2013.

And at #5 its the last surviving Sith God Mnggal-Mnggal. (Who I haven't discussed yet).

This is all shocking since outside of Mara Jade, Kyle Katarn and (until recently) Revan, no Legends article without canon counterparts have been able to reach the top 10.

This may have to do with 3 things, the continued rise in popularity for old canons stuff following Plan IX (which led to several old canon novels being sold out on Amazon), the rumor that the Starweirds and the old Sith Gods will be main characters in High Republic and that Darth Nihilus may be the "god" of the Nihl bandits (I'm skeptical about High Republic being the cause of this, otherwise the Imperial Sentinels and Atha Prime wouldn't be trending again since they have nothing to do with High Republic or rumors) or quite possibly the upcoming unofficial release of Supernatural Encounters: Expanded Edition which has seen quite a bit of traffic as of late.

Whatever the case, this is very out of the blue and there hasn't been levels of activity like this in years outside of movie releases. I would assume High Republic might be the cause of this, but its not just Sith God articles, its almost anything in the Legends category. Some old articles have even surpassed their Disney counterparts in traffic. I asked some but they just said usual crap like "maybe they finally realized Disney is shit" but that can't be the only reason (and if it is I'd hate to see how they'll current year-ify old canon), there's something odd here and I'm gonna keep asking around.

Hell even the Shi'ido are in the top 4 sentient mammals again.
And they haven't been near the top or even at the halfway point since 2014.

There have been brief boosts like this before like after TLJ or Solo, or the whole Amazon thing after IX, but never anything this big that random old articles suddenly started surpassing new ones.
 
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The thing that Filoni doesn't realize with the hoops he leaps through to keep Ahsoka alive is that it actually does a disservice to the character, especially in the eyes of people who like her. Ahoska's characterization and growth throughout TCW was very rich and well-earned, but a lot of that had to do with her interactions with Anakin. Lucas literally greenlit Ahsoka to be an emotional counter-balance to Anakin's character, another form of attachment that would further his descent towards the anxiety-ridden, over-attached mess we see him to be in ROTS. That was the entire point to Ahsoka's character, regardless of what Filoni tries to say or do in retrospect.

And when you remove Anakin from the equation, and start inserting her in purposeless, glorified filler like the Siege of Mandalore or post-ROTJ stories like the Mandalorian, after she's already fulfilled much of her narrative purpose and has virtually no growing left to do, her inclusion is little more than cheap pandering and shallow fan-service, which is a complete dump on her character. And Filoni doesn't even realize he's doing it.

Some people would posit that you could make a similar argument for Luke Skywalker in the EU, another character that had reached a satisfying arc and had completed most of his narrative purpose by ROTJ's end. Isn't having more stories with him shallow fan-service as well? And the answer is, no: the difference between Luke's continuing adventures after ROTJ (in the EU, at least), and Ahsoka popping up in shit after TCW is that Luke actually has stuff left to do: he has a Jedi Order to build, apprentices to foster and guide, romance to kindle with Mara Jade, a son to raise in Ben Skywalker, and new ethical dilemmas to face as the Head of the Jedi Order, to say nothing of family squabbles with the likes of Jacen Solo/Darth Caedus.

What does Ahsoka have left to do? She's not a member of the Jedi Order anymore. The writers seem insistent on teasing a love interest for her but never committing to it, which by proxy means that any offspring is out of the question. The only thing she really had left was to be a contributing member of the Rebel Alliance, but even that has its limitations. The stakes of Luke training as the last of the Jedi throughout the OT are actually damaged by Ahsoka being present, considering she's another Light Side Force User who could easily give the Rebellion aide against the likes of Vader, but inexplicably is missing for most of the action. This is the same problem Rebels ran into by having people like Ezra and Canan around just prior to ANH and solved by putting them out of commission right before the start of the Galactic Civil War. And then Filoni fucks that remedied situation up by resurrecting Ahsoka, to be inexplicably absent during the OT when her help was needed the most. That actively ruins the character for people who liked her, because that makes her look like a coward at best and a traitor at worst.

I say all of this as someone who loves TCW, likes Rebels okay, and has a modicum of respect for Filoni: This is where his fanfic-levels of character sheparding actively hurt the canon, and more specifically, the character herself, whether he realizes it or not. And that is why I block Rebels from my headcanon. It's an engaging show with likeable characters, and is far and away superior to the ST, but isn't compatible with what's been estanlished.

At best, it's a fun Elseworlds/Infinites storyline in my mind.
You are completely correct, Ahsoka being around during the OT makes no sense and just like the other countless force user characters they put into the Rebels show, diminishes the stakes in the OT and certainly dimenishes the importance of Luke (which appears to be the goal of everything Disney does now). It's irresponsible and selfish story telling and now they will force these same characters into the Mandalorian. It just really annoys me.
 
Don't know if this was posted already but the comic is adding new character involved with Lukes lightsaber after he lost it in Empire
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Most people are guessing this might be Verla or Ahsoka, some are guessing Shaak Ti or some new OC and that one site who started the Brie Larson is playing Mara Jade rumor is suggesting this is how she'll show up in the story (though I did some digging after hearing the rumor and most people view that site is untrustworth with rumors so that might be one silver lining).
 
Don't know if this was posted already but the comic is adding new character involved with Lukes lightsaber after he lost it in Empire
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Most people are guessing this might be Verla or Ahsoka, some are guessing Shaak Ti or some new OC and that one site who started the Brie Larson is playing Mara Jade rumor is suggesting this is how she'll show up in the story (though I did some digging after hearing the rumor and most people view that site is untrustworth with rumors so that might be one silver lining).
Its not Ahsoka or Shaak Ti from what I understand. This lady jedi's first appearance and in the page show her having a light human skin tone. So its probably some shitty OC who will serve as Luke's "true master" or enemy or this Verla character, but I doubt its the latter since this mystery donut steal clearly has a bond with Luke since Disney canon bullshit says that what she's doing can only be done by people who've Force bonded. Personally I wouldn't be surprised if this is Rey traveling back in time to help Luke through the time anus thing or an OP form of flow walking.

And you may be right about the Mara Jade rumor also being bullshit, as others I've asked including the usual sources seem to hint otherwise.

On a side note, the new Filoni Wars episode replaced one of the old aliens from its original storyboards with a Disney one (Gosh golly kids! Don't forget Disney is good!)... Not too surprising since they got rid of the episode's original main character.
 
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