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Hmmmm.... Then what is this?


I mean right here it has his name

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Also I seem to see the War Campaign logo there and your name littered throughout... So... Are you telling me that you don't support this product and that Ro ISN'T a creator within Comicsgate? Yet your name is used for promotion, you made a cover and Ro is in charge of this campaign?

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So do you now wonder why I think that you are a lying snake oil salesman and why I think that you are perfectly fine with WC actions even when it is destructive to Comicsgate itself? Honestly. I think that you know and even possible tell them who to attack and not to attack behind the scenes. Like a scheming Caesar. Except you view yourself like a Marcus Aurelius and/or an Augustus, but you are actually more like Nero. Incompetent, scheming and self destructive.

You never seem to stop waffling on positions and excuses. I think that you are a narcissist that thinks that his audience is stupid and moronic and ply your manipulations in order to make money off their outrage. You exemplify everything wrong with the comic industry in the 90's. You care about making money.... Not art and you abuse the customer with over priced garbage that you know will have no value in the future while telling them it will be valuable.

Can't wait to see your pathetic attempt to wave this off too.

I am perfectly fine with War Campaign's actions. They're internet spergs fighting other internet spergs, and both sides seem to enjoy it, because they do it EVERY SINGLE DAY. I let adults do whatever adults want to do on the internet.

One side is plotting to "take me down", the other side is defending me. I like the side that's defending me better, but the idea that I command them is retarded, and without a shred of evidence, when MOUNTAINS of evidence would be available if it were true.

There's also zero proof that it's "destructive to ComicsGate itself." Things are going really well for ComicsGaters, and not so well for those who left.

As for the 90's and CYBERFROG, that's up to you to decide. CYBERFROG: BLOODHONEY is my best work. If you think it's "garbage" then that's your opinion, but it's a fact that I put my heart and soul into it, without cynicism and with all of the skill I've acquired over 27 years of working in comics.

It's a fact that it's valuable NOW. EBay resellers are enjoying significant profits from it. I continue to sell it to interested fans.

And CYBERFROG 2: REKT PLANET just passed $400K on it's 8th day of funding. Those are facts. People really want it.

I can't predict the future. This virus demonstrates that it's pointless to anticipate anything following a straight line, but as long as I am able to continue drawing and writing CYBERFROG, I will do so. I am happier drawing this book than I've ever been.
 
I am perfectly fine with War Campaign's actions. They're internet spergs fighting other internet spergs, and both sides seem to enjoy it, because they do it EVERY SINGLE DAY. I let adults do whatever adults want to do on the internet.

One side is plotting to "take me down", the other side is defending me. I like the side that's defending me better, but the idea that I command them is exceptional, and without a shred of evidence, when MOUNTAINS of evidence would be available if it were true.

There's also zero proof that it's "destructive to ComicsGate itself." Things are going really well for ComicsGaters, and not so well for those who left.

As for the 90's and CYBERFROG, that's up to you to decide. CYBERFROG: BLOODHONEY is my best work. If you think it's "garbage" then that's your opinion, but it's a fact that I put my heart and soul into it, without cynicism and with all of the skill I've acquired over 27 years of working in comics.

It's a fact that it's valuable NOW. EBay resellers are enjoying significant profits from it. I continue to sell it to interested fans.

And CYBERFROG 2: REKT PLANET just passed $400K on it's 8th day of funding. Those are facts. People really want it.

I can't predict the future. This virus demonstrates that it's pointless to anticipate anything following a straight line, but as long as I am able to continue drawing and writing CYBERFROG, I will do so. I am happier drawing this book than I've ever been.

Just go on his stream already, he's clearly too shy to ask you out directly and you know you love the attention
 
I am perfectly fine with War Campaign's actions. They're internet spergs fighting other internet spergs, and both sides seem to enjoy it, because they do it EVERY SINGLE DAY. I let adults do whatever adults want to do on the internet.

So you're okay with Pan cyberstalking and driving to people's home and convention to start drama? I wouldn't be surprised if you are telling War Campaign to harass people.

You keep calling yourself ceaser but don't cry when war campaign throws you under the bus, who's brutus? Ro? Malin? Or Zack because he doesn't even want to be associated with the trash known as comicsgate. I guess you were okay when ro made fun of anna's sister🤔
 
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So you're okay with Pan cyberstalking and driving to people's home and convention to start drama? I wouldn't be surprised if you are telling War Campaign to harass people.

You keep calling yourself ceaser but don't cry when war campaign throws you under the bus, who's brutus? Ro? Malin? Or Zack because he doesn't even want to be associated with the trash known as comicsgate. I guess you were okay when ro made fun of anna's sister🤔
Do we actually have confirmation this happened? Or just the one guy's report? I only ask because we all were on the side of not believing TUG's stupid duct tape mailbox, but I haven't seen the evidence Pan showed up at a convention and starting shit.
Don't all these idiots cyberstalk each other?
 
Do we actually have confirmation this happened? Or just the one guy's report? I only ask because we all were on the side of not believing TUG's stupid duct tape mailbox, but I haven't seen the evidence Pan showed up at a convention and starting shit.
Don't all these idiots cyberstalk each other?
Yes on the idiots stalking part, because like Gamergate, they give way too much of a shit about gay ops and doxing.

But I bet it's another PWEASE PITY ME move like TUG cries about every second of existence of his pathetic ass life.
 
Do we actually have confirmation this happened? Or just the one guy's report? I only ask because we all were on the side of not believing TUG's stupid duct tape mailbox, but I haven't seen the evidence Pan showed up at a convention and starting shit.
Don't all these idiots cyberstalk each other?

There's proof he went to preston's book sighting to start stuff because he took a picture of him signing the book for ethan. For crypto he never deny he did. For tug it was too good to be true and he admitted oom a live stream chat with yellow flash renfamous did not attack his mailbox but he spent 2 months blaming kickvic.
 
There's proof he went to preston's book sighting to start stuff because he took a picture of him signing the book for ethan. For crypto he never deny he did. For tug it was too good to be true and he admitted oom a live stream chat with yellow flash renfamous did not attack his mailbox but he spent 2 months blaming kickvic.
Okay, so we have proof that he went to a Preston signing, got a book signed and there was shit that went down? Or not? Is this really the proof we have? 'He took a picture of him signing a book for Ethan!!' ... Who fucking cares? Did he start shit or just take a picture?
Do we have that house proof? I hear a lot about him going to the house, do we have proof or just spergs saying they did because everyone like them on the internet says 'meet me irl fag'?

Listen, I don't like WC, Cg is on thinnest fucking ice, but the people keeping their noses down and just working on books are keeping my support. But if we don't have proof of this shit, just 'I said/didn't say it' or 'I did/didn't do' then in my opinion, pussies need to just shut up and move on.

TUG was a moron who needed clout and to be a martyr, he's been exposed, I couldn't give two shits less what TUG does now, because I'm done with him. But it comes off as 'internet tough guy' bullshit without any of this proof or actual things happening - i.e. "Panboy showed up to start shit! Did he? Not really."
 
Does anybody have the court documents so we can see what the WC sped is supposedly going to superjail for?

Edit: More corona news
Diamond: not shipping starting April 1st
IDW: suspending publication between May 6th-27th
Boom: Full returnabilty till July, promoting LCS's, and Varient covers.
 
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I am perfectly fine with War Campaign's actions.

Liam Gray beat his mother so hard she got an apprehended domestic violence order out on him.

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Matt Hanson (Panboy) is awaiting trial for two counts of cyber-stalking.

Ro Kabir has a questionable past, the views Mike and Doug have expressed are pretty tame compared to your head Centurion.
 

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Liam Gray beat his mother so hard she got an apprehended domestic violence order out on him.

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Matt Hanson (Panboy) is awaiting trial for two counts of cyber-stalking.

Ro Kabir has a questionable past, the views Mike and Doug have expressed are pretty tame compared to your head Centurion.

No offense, but for completeness sake, we're going to need a little more than that for both Liam, Matt, and yes even Ro though rest assured, everyone knows he's at minimum a complete jackass.
 
I edited my last post with that info and a bit more to avoid double posting.

Has DC said anything yet? Marvel gave some bullshit discount talks, but as far as i can tell DC is still silent, Jim Lee's first test and he's really dropped the ball. Makes me think DC will be announcing their sale/closure soon.
 
No offense, but for completeness sake, we're going to need a little more than that for both Liam, Matt, and yes even Ro though rest assured, everyone knows he's at minimum a complete jackass.
Panboy admitted in the chat of the Warski and Geekthulu stream #2, that "his trial has been postponed due to the corona-virus and that his lawyer thought he had a strong case for defense." The spergcampaign have all changed their names to "FREEPAN" on their twitter bios and have passed around a paypal link to help fund his defense.

As for Liam I think it is safe to assume he is responsible for the things he is accused of.
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Grafton is a rural town in regional New South Wales, its population is quite small. The odds of their being multiple Liam Grays does exist but probably is rather small.

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On his facebook page he is listed as having two brothers, a Duanne Gray and a Zac Gray.

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Duanne has a Zac Gray on his profile, yet Liam does not. Almost as if they had a falling out over something, such as beating their mutual mother to the point she had to charge her son.

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I'll admit it is all merely speculation on my part, but at the present I'd be willing to take the bet that this Liam Gray is indeed the one being charged. If his mother had a facebook then it could probably be proven, but I can find no Fay Grays from Grafton on FB.
 
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Liam Gray beat his mother so hard she got an apprehended domestic violence order out on him.

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Matt Hanson (Panboy) is awaiting trial for two counts of cyber-stalking.

Ro Kabir has a questionable past, the views Mike and Doug have expressed are pretty tame compared to your head Centurion.
And Vic McNonosquare was accused of '100% raping thousands of girls', because he was accused of it, doesn't mean he's guilty. And what does cyberstalking actually amount to? Again, who gives a shit? These people stalk each other all day, every day, sniping, gay ops, etc...

Oh no, Ro is an uninspired edgelord... I at least agree that it's stupid for people to hold Mike and Doug's dumb views to a higher standard than the crap WC says, it's hypocritical of someone to say that 'pride is a sin' is worse than 'gas the jews' or 'kill all fags' what Mike and Doug say is their own views, and if gays or whoever is offended doesn't want to buy their book, they shouldn't and instead back who they want with whoever and get thicker skin. But then I ask the opposite, why is it cool for Mike and Doug and Edwin and whoever is on 'that side' to say and do the things they do, but WC can't? It's one big circlejerk of getting to police each other.

I think this is the crux of my issue with Geekthulu and Andy right now. I like both of them, but their current campaign of 'exposing CG' is just retarded grabbing. The shit Geek and Andy have said and Andy/Ethan Ralph's failed crowdfunded livestreaming show give them hardly any room to sit back and say 'these guys said mean things on the internet'. I might be reaching, and misremembering things, but weren't geek/Ethan/Andy okay with the shit Godspeed did during the Tonka Chronicles? They haven't produced anything substantial and it goes out to a small community who probably don't even give a shit about crowdfunded comics. Until they get some real shit, I don't get the play.

I edited my last post with that info and a bit more to avoid double posting.

Has DC said anything yet? Marvel gave some bullshit discount talks, but as far as i can tell DC is still silent, Jim Lee's first test and he's really dropped the ball. Makes me think DC will be announcing their sale/closure soon.
This is honestly the most surreal thing. What gets me though, is that CG is claiming this as a victory on their side, Ethan and Cecil earlier were on stream saying that no one should use the virus as a reason for the industry collapsing sooner.

I agree partially, as sales have been going down slowly, but the virus definitely boosted the plummet. None of these companies are making these decisions because Ethan sold a Frog book, they did it because people aren't going to be working much longer, and stores can't sell to people who aren't going to the store.
 
Panboy admitted in the chat of the Warski and Geekthulu stream #2, that "his trial has been postponed due to the corona-virus and that his lawyer thought he had a strong case for defense." The spergcampaign have all changed their names to "FREEPAN" on their twitter bios and have passed around a paypal link to help fund his defense.

As for Liam I think it is safe to assume he is responsible for the things he is accused of.
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Graftons is a rural town in regional New South Wales, its population is quite small. The odds of their being multiple Liam Grays does exist but probably is rather small.

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On his facebook face he is listed as having two brothers, a Duanne Gray and a Zac Gray.

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Duanne has a Zac Gray on his profile, yet Liam does not. Almost as if they had a falling out over something, such as beating their mutual mother to the point she had to charge her son.

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I'll admit it is all merely speculation on my part, but at the present I'd be willing to take the bet that this Liam Gray is indeed the one being charged. If his mother had a facebook then it could probably be proven, but I can find no Fay Grays from Grafton on FB.

Impressive. Most impressive.
 
I am perfectly fine with War Campaign's actions. They're internet spergs fighting other internet spergs, and both sides seem to enjoy it, because they do it EVERY SINGLE DAY. I let adults do whatever adults want to do on the internet.

One side is plotting to "take me down", the other side is defending me. I like the side that's defending me better, but the idea that I command them is exceptional, and without a shred of evidence, when MOUNTAINS of evidence would be available if it were true.

There's also zero proof that it's "destructive to ComicsGate itself." Things are going really well for ComicsGaters, and not so well for those who left.

I see more to the contrary that the other side doesn't in fact enjoy it. People being threatened with doxes. Cyberstalking and eventually leading up to a member of WarCampaign going to someone's house after making threats of physical violence (Pan, who is currently facing charges for that action) with your name in their mouth. Going to a Con and trying to intimidate and provoke a response from a creator while using your name. I'm not telling you to tell them to stop or assume that you can make them stop, but your obvious support and lack of admonishment ESPECIALLY when they use your name says a lot about your actual position on WarCampaign.

Nobody is trying to "take you down" you paranoid old man. This is why I say you are schizo. Either that or you are a pathological liar. Because I believe that you believe what you are saying, but it isn't reality. If you look at what people are saying to you especially in regards to WarCampaign. They are actually helping you, because WarCampaign is your Achilles Tendon. IF ANYTHING is gonna really hurt you and "take you down"... It's them. Either by their intended design or by people getting fed up with their actions and finally hanging you for it. IT WILL HAPPEN eventually. One thing that I have learned in this world in my 42 years.... EVERYONE loves to watch someone fall. Eventually it will be your turn and it will be hastened with your association with them.

You're right I have no hard evidence that you "command" them, but I can clearly see you "dog whistle" to them and your audience a lot. Your use of hyperbolic language in order to incite them to outrage. I am pretty sure that you do that fully knowing that they will run out and mess with people for their "Caesar" which builds no good will for you and YOUR BUSINESS. If you are trying to do what you say you are trying to do is build a business. You are doing an absolutely shit job at it. It's great now because you are banking off of the SJW outrage and angry morons will sling their money at it. I KNOW... The Skeptic community used to use that same business model... Look at them now. Broke and e begging. This will eventually happen to you. People will start to see through you and your bullshitting. I myself was quite surprised when I came here to this thread to see a lot of the users here shitting on you. I honestly thought it would be the opposite. I see your imminent downward spiral and the community waking up to your schemes.

As for the "zero proof that it's "ComicsGate itself". I have eyes. I see the damage you're doing to the "movement". You co-opted it, made it a toxic environment and are now the gatekeeper to who is and who isn't Comicsgate. Comicsgate is an ideal, not a person or group with control over others ability to say they are part of the movement. You are doing the exact same thing that BLM did and why it ultimately failed. Certain individuals co-opted it to make money off of the outrage. Now look at BLM... Nobody cares and laughs at it. It's like calling yourself an atheist. It's an ideal, not something tangible. You can't own it. You either are or aren't and someone can't say that you are or aren't. You have taken Comicsgate (a movement about consumers) and made yourself the CEO and monetized it for your benefit. You don't care about making actual changes to how the big two operate and do business. You instead opted to profit much like them off of social and political outrage and tell others who can and cannot make money off of their content. You let your personal grudges get in the way of making a good business decision and turned what could have been a positive movement for independent creators and made it a nasty spiteful business model for profit for yourself and those that choose to lick your boots.

As for the 90's and CYBERFROG, that's up to you to decide. CYBERFROG: BLOODHONEY is my best work. If you think it's "garbage" then that's your opinion, but it's a fact that I put my heart and soul into it, without cynicism and with all of the skill I've acquired over 27 years of working in comics.

It's a fact that it's valuable NOW. EBay resellers are enjoying significant profits from it. I continue to sell it to interested fans.

And CYBERFROG 2: REKT PLANET just passed $400K on it's 8th day of funding. Those are facts. People really want it.

I can't predict the future. This virus demonstrates that it's pointless to anticipate anything following a straight line, but as long as I am able to continue drawing and writing CYBERFROG, I will do so. I am happier drawing this book than I've ever been.

I have decided. I lived it... You are doing the exact same shit that Image, Marvel and DC did in the 90's. You are flooding the market with multiple variants that decrease the value of books. You concentrate on art, not story. As for Cyberfrog being your best work... I read it.... It is possibly the worst story I ever read in the history of comics. It is derivative and has no cohesive plot. I have said and will maintain your art is good, but those big splash pages in order to save time and eat up page space... Once again very 90's and part of a problem. You could have developed the story and characters more with all that wasted space. You need to hire an actual writer for Cyberfrog, because your story isn't that good. Sure my "opinion" is that... an opinion. Though there are clear things wrong with how you tell a story and I see MANY people agree with it.

If your idea of success is just money... That doesn't mean the product is worth it. The Fyre Festival made a shit ton of money... We all know how that turned out. Many business persons have had successful businesses but made shit products and used very morally bankrupt decisions to do it. I would be curious how much money you would have made IF you hadn't used the SJW outrage. I would imagine you wouldn't have made no where near the amount you did.

I don't have an issue with you making money and following a passion. Though I do have an issue with how you are doing it. With lies, slander and dirty tactics in order to build yourself up and destroy others trying to follow their passion and make some money through it.


Just go on his stream already, he's clearly too shy to ask you out directly and you know you love the attention

In all honesty. The past few days and the more research I have done on EVS. There isn't a point in bringing him on a show to talk about this with him. The guy is gonna use it for an opportunity to schmooze, lie, distort and self promote. He has already tried the "divide and conquer" approach with Andy and I lol.

We tried to invite him on the show and he blew us off and said he was busy. We have content lined up and weren't prepared to have questions ready for him answered appropriately. Even in the chat he said to me when I said it was, "Sounds Fair". Then later goes on shows (Tonkasaw's Show) when he claimed he was too busy to join us at a later date. Acting like a victim and that we weren't giving him an opportunity to talk with us.

Here is a screenshot from Adolwulf's DM with EVS where he was trying to get him on the show and he blew us off. He was so busy that the next day he went on another show...

Also note. We left it open to contact us if he wanted to come on IF his schedule allowed it. Yet... Cries that we aren't letting him on or with an opportunity to do so later.

All this asshole does is lie and misrepresent any situation to make himself the victim. So now yes... I have no interest in talking to such a disingenuous prick like himself.

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This is honestly the most surreal thing. What gets me though, is that CG is claiming this as a victory on their side, Ethan and Cecil earlier were on stream saying that no one should use the virus as a reason for the industry collapsing sooner.

I agree partially, as sales have been going down slowly, but the virus definitely boosted the plummet. None of these companies are making these decisions because Ethan sold a Frog book, they did it because people aren't going to be working much longer, and stores can't sell to people who aren't going to the store.
Kneon of clownfishTV compared it to corona mostly affecting the elderly, weak, and already dying.

Frankly @FROG is lucky he launched when he did. Money for superchats and $25+ dollar books dries up during economic downturns.
 
And Vic McNonosquare was accused of '100% raping thousands of girls', because he was accused of it, doesn't mean he's guilty. And what does cyberstalking actually amount to? Again, who gives a shit? These people stalk each other all day, every day, sniping, gay ops, etc...

Oh no, Ro is an uninspired edgelord... I at least agree that it's stupid for people to hold Mike and Doug's dumb views to a higher standard than the crap WC says, it's hypocritical of someone to say that 'pride is a sin' is worse than 'gas the Trump's Chosen People' or 'kill all fags' what Mike and Doug say is their own views, and if gays or whoever is offended doesn't want to buy their book, they shouldn't and instead back who they want with whoever and get thicker skin. But then I ask the opposite, why is it cool for Mike and Doug and Edwin and whoever is on 'that side' to say and do the things they do, but WC can't? It's one big circlejerk of getting to police each other.
I am merely pointing out the hypocrisy of Ethan and by extension Comicsgate's principles, some people are held to higher standards than others. Nobody had a problem with Doug or Mikes views when they joined CG, if fact streams were held celebrating that another DC artist and the creator of Earthworm Jim had joined validating the movement. Mike and Doug's views on the rainbow agenda were well documented before they joined CG, it was only after both left that CG has a problem with them.

You could argue (like Ethan) that Ro is just a superfan and his entitled to express his views. I'd normally agree but this is however false. Ro runs the Warcampaign youtube channel that promotes Comicsgate and its creators, he is also now a creator himself with Vestige. If a higher standard is expected from CG creators then these standards should undeniably apply to Ro. Personally I am similar to Nerkish and am a free speech absolutist, I find nothing really wrong with what Ro has said (I've probably said far worse at some point), but I am just pointing out the hypocrisy and double standard that exists within CG.

Rules for thee, but not for me.

Jon Del Arroz was baited and gaslight by Ro into arguing for the justification of Ethno-nationalism and was basically expelled from Comicsgate and treated persona non grata. Yet Ro has tweets basically calling for the same thing and he is not punished, he is encouraged.

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Okay, so we have proof that he went to a Preston signing, got a book signed and there was shit that went down? Or not? Is this really the proof we have? 'He took a picture of him signing a book for Ethan!!' ... Who fucking cares? Did he start shit or just take a picture?

I mean why else he went, he went there to start drama and went to Preston of all people at the convention.
 
I am merely pointing out the hypocrisy of Ethan and by extension Comicsgate's principles, some people are held to higher standards than others. Nobody had a problem with Doug or Mikes views when they joined CG, if fact streams were held celebrating that another DC artist and the creator of Earthworm Jim had joined validating the movement. Mike and Doug's views on the rainbow agenda were well documented before they joined CG, it was only after both left that CG has a problem with them.

You could argue (like Ethan) that Ro is just a superfan and his entitled to express his views. I'd normally agree but this is however false. Ro runs the Warcampaign youtube channel that promotes Comicsgate and its creators, he is also now a creator himself with Vestige. If a higher standard is expected from CG creators then these standards should undeniably apply to Ro. Personally I am similar to Nerkish and am a free speech absolutist, I find nothing really wrong with what Ro has said (I've probably said far worse at some point), but I am just pointing out the hypocrisy and double standard that exists within CG.

Rules for thee, but not for me.

Jon Del Arroz was baited and gaslight by Ro into arguing for the justification of Ethno-nationalism and was basically expelled from Comicsgate and treated persona non grata. Yet Ro has tweets basically calling for the same thing and he is not punished, he is encouraged.

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I agree with you on this, the CG side clutching their pearls and saying 'Mike did a nono' is fucking ridiculous and then to say the 'other side' does it is the textbook example of hypocrisy.

But again, BOTH sides of this tardfight do this. You will never convince Ethan to pull back from supporting WC, short of tricking WC to turn on him... I gave up this whole, trying to set WC straight bullshit because Ethan doesn't care enough to take people seriously. Of course, unless they are against him.

I mean why else he went, he went there to start drama and went to Preston of all people at the convention.
Again, going to start shit, does not automatically mean starting shit. If all he did was take a picture of Preston signing one of his crappy books, so that they could post it online and giggle while they suck each other off, then who fucking cares? Did they try to fight anyone? Did they try to take his shit down?

Kneon of clownfishTV compared it to corona mostly affecting the elderly, weak, and already dying.

Frankly @FROG is lucky he launched when he did. Money for superchats and $25+ dollar books dries up during economic downturns.
Right on the money. This is a victory for Corona and the failing economy, not a dirtworm comic.
 
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