Wuhan Coronavirus: Lockdowns, Quarantines, Cancellations

[RomanesEuntDomus]

To take people's minds off of this crisis, a bit of a different kind of story:

In Hamburg in northern Germany, a bar has to close its door for the first time in 70 years. That's right, the bar has been open nonstop for over 7 decades.
There's only one problem: The owner of the bar doesn't have a key for his front door, he never had to lock it after all.

New developement:
Said bar didn't close, it now serves as a soup kitchen and it hands out clothes to homeless people.

 

[Introvertigo]

Nobody has seem to mention this yet...but vidcom is cancelled. So at least it affected one thing about YouTube.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Per your idea regarding the state, no, actually, the state exists to support Society in providing what society itself will not produce, but still needs to Function. This includes law enforcement, Crisis management and socioeconomic administration within a given scope such that certain human rights are preserved. Unlike what you may like to believe regarding how callous we can be, psychologically normal, functional adults consider thousands of people dying to be a fucking crisis, surprise surprise, the state then is obliged to respond accordingly per society's mandate off governance which requires a certain level of confidence that in return for putting up with administrative gaffes, corruption and other shenanigans endemic to that aggregation of political power

You said it right here. You react to a crisis with measures that fit the crisis. This is not the literal plague, ebolapox, or whatever, thus the government should not engage in massive, unprecedented suspensions of human rights for something rather less dangerous. It's like Illinois suspending the Second Amendment after a few worse than normal weekends in Chicago and a school shooting or two, and I don't mean the retarded gun laws they pass/try to pass, I mean "all gun stores must close, ammo may not be sold, all concealed carry licenses must be turned in, anyone found with a gun will be arrested, all citizens strongly advised to turn in guns."

You know what cures a plague faster, more efficiently and without acting like a troop of shit-sniffing chimpanzees? Anti-viral agents, including Vaccines. Almost like we've been studying how to do this for centuries. Almost like to properly make such drugs such that we are sure we can inject them into people without fucking up and making things worse, we need time to formulate the agents, develop the processes for manufacture, and triple-fucking-check that we aren't poisoning people. Whoops!

Nevermind that you clearly have no fucking clue how viral mutation works and that there is no way in hell anyone who knows what they're talking about would bet that our immune systems will 100% certainly out-smart mother nature organically.

Oh, I forgot Kiwifarms is full of virologists and epidemiologists now. I must look so stupid. I'm glad this site is full of experts in all manner of professions like the experts on Texas civil law down at the Weeb Wars forum.

"I've been forced to suffer" you poor, poor thing, asked to stop running around being a vector for the contagious spread and mutation of a pandemic-level virus such that people don't die. Asked to stay in your home which you'd probably be doing anyways (as you post on Kiwi Farms) and make adjustments to your personal schedule such that you can't grace the public with your beautiful, unmistakable, 100% unique and necessary presence. The entire nation weeps. Bettter kill some elderly people so we may bask in the glory of thine divine presence once more.

You seem to be a very selfless, altruistic person. How much did you donate to charity last year? Did you vote for Bernie Sanders so the government will raise your taxes to take your money (which you don't need) to help people with more Medicare for All or programs for poor people? Come on man, put in the self-sacrifice, your money doesn't matter compared to human suffering, right? No surprise there's already the usual MSM crew going on about how this will lead to AOC crowd's ideas becoming accepted everywhere.

But unironically yes, I am worth more than elderly people, and this is confirmed by the law because if you kill me and my family wins a wrongful death claim against you, you would pay out more than if you killed my octogenarian grandmother. This is also what they are doing in crowded hospitals right now. The old people are shoved to the back of the bus.

You're seriously equating getting behind the wheel of a vehicle to becoming a live vector for the spread of a highly contagious, virulent disease? Do you understand that biological pandemics =/= car accidents? No, you probably do, but you've got a narrative to push, so push away.

Yes, yes I am, because when you take the emotional blinders off about muh infectious lethal death cough, it's literally the same thing. "I am putting others at risk by going about my daily life." Millions of people do this, and in the US alone this kills over 30,000 people and injures 2 million people (some for life) annually. If that were a disease that would be a pandemic. So let's heavily restrict/curfew the use of cars and mandate public transit to stop this, because we can't allow people to make such dangerous choices that harm others. This is not too restrictive, you can still function with such minimal use of a car, right?

What happened to Smallpox? Polio? H1N1? Seeing a theme here? I'm not sure you're capable to anymore.

H1N1 mutated into less dangerous flus and still circulates every single year. Many other seasonal flus trace their lineage to H3N2 aka the Hong Kong pandemic flu of 1968. The dangerous H1N1 flus are kept to minimum in part because of this (and because they rarely emerge anyway). And guess what happened to smallpox? I thought you were an expert on virology or something, this is like 101 level shit.

You ever consider that slowing the spread of this virus while effective countermeasures such as pharmaceutical treatments are devloped might just help with the speed that those treatments will have in bringing the pandemic measures to an end? That producing enough of said treatments to Treat 400,000 is easier, faster, and more efficient than having to do the same for 4,000,000? No? Didn't think so.

Yes, and it's not worth instituting totalitarianism for, especially the hilariously flawed version where you can take a plane to anywhere in the US and a few other countries yet can't go down to the bar for a drink with friends. Or even meet with more than one friend in some countries.

"Cause billions of people misery to save maybe 100K lives and a few million people from getting sick" is a pretty shit tradeoff. Maybe not in totalitarian dream world, I mean Greta wants billions of people to suffer misery to save some lives from climate change even though there are better ways of dealing with the problem that don't involving human-inflicted suffering by being confined to a pod.

Looks like you lost the play again. The police are literally everywhere and they're after you. They're coming for you. They got the National Guard too, with Strykers and sheeeeiiitt. They want your freedoms and your boypucci. They're everywhere and they're coming for you. But they aren't stopping riots and arson? Hm. Seems like we should all just Chimp out and kill each other. No paranoid schizophrenia here. Exactly like the British did when London was getting bombed every fucking day in 1940 and they started slaughtering each other over scraps of bread under martial law-oh wait.

Because the government totally isn't making plans house the severely ill in sports arenas, and I haven't seen anyone showing off papers from employers that are meant to be shown to the police if they stop them for traveling. And the National Guard has not been deployed anywhere, just like how the Spanish Legion is not patrolling the streets of Spain like it was the late 30s again. And there's absolutely not an increase in crime and record sales of guns ongoing.

If you seriously think people will remain peaceful for another few months I don't know what to say, and that's why the National Guard will come out to make sure people do. And they still won't since they can't be everywhere at once.

 

[Ellesse_warrior]

Boris Johnson has announced the long trailed 12 week lockdown for the most vulnerable in the UK as defined by the NHS

Government outlines isolation plans for vulnerable, as 18-year-old dies from virus

37 more people in England aged between 18 and 102 have died, bringing the UK total to 281.

www.telegraph.co.uk

https://web.archive.org/web/2020032...virus-latest-news-italy-uk-nhs-boris-johnson/



Video of the announcement here

Honolulu Mayor Kirk Caldwell has issued a stay at home/work from home order that will start tomorrow, until April 30.

Honolulu Mayor Kirk Caldwell issues stay at home, work from home order(Source)(archive)

New Zealand has moved to level 3 on the COVID19 alert scale. All schools will be closed. We will move to level 4 in 48 hours which is full lockdown.

Source | Archive

Coronavirus lockdown: NZ to hit Alert Level 4 Wednesday night(Source)(archive)

Indiana stay at home starting 03/24.

Gov. Holcomb orders Hoosiers to stay home to fight COVID-19 spread

Governor Eric Holcomb will discuss the state's latest developments in slowing the spread of COVID-19 at a press conference Monday at Noon.

www.theindychannel.com

Gov. Holcomb orders Hoosiers to stay home to fight COVID-19 spread(Source)(archive)

Wisconsin follows suit.

Gov. Tony Evers to order Wisconsinites to stay at home, will close non-essential businesses

Gov. Tony Evers on Monday said he will order Wisconsinites to stay in their homes starting this week to fend off the coronavirus outbreak that is ravaging populations worldwide.

www.jsonline.com

Gov. Tony Evers to order Wisconsinites to stay at home, will close non-essential businesses(Source)(archive)

Atlanta is considering shelter at place

Atlanta mayor announces 14-day stay at home order(Source)(archive)

After waffling on it for like a week, Oregon Governor issues 'stay at home' order. Includes mandatory 'non-essential' business closures, aside from already-restricted food/alcohol places.

Oregon stay at home order: Where can I go?(Source)(archive)

Strict new curbs on life in UK announced by PM

Gatherings of more than two people are banned, shops ordered to close and social events halted as part of rules to keep Britons at home and stop the spread of coronavirus.

www.bbc.co.uk

Coronavirus: Strict new curbs on life in UK announced by PM(Source)(archive)

Hobby Lobby open during coronavirus pandemic, even as other retailers close
Apparently his wife received a message from Jesus to stay open or something.

But apparently, they don't seem to care about following His teachings:
In leaked memo, Hobby Lobby refuses to give workers paid sick leave during coronavirus pandemic

Once again, those that scream the loudest about Christian they are prove that they're also the least likely to follow Jesus's teachings.

In leaked memo, Hobby Lobby refuses to give workers paid sick leave during coronavirus pandemic(Source)(archive)

Welp, looks like Corona-chan flashed a titty at Minnesota's governor:

Gov. Tim Walz in self-quarantine as COVID-19 hits close to state leaders

Gov. Tim Walz said Monday that he is not showing any symptoms but will be self-quarantined at home for the next two weeks after coming in contact with someone who tested positive for COVID-19.

www.startribune.com

No word on whether he's infected yet. Despite this, he's so far refused to lock down the state, saying he still "needs to do some research." He's a centrist Democrat so maybe he just doesn't want to feel like he's chasing the lockdown bandwagon like the other governors...

Gov. Tim Walz in self-quarantine as COVID-19 hits close to state leaders(Source)(archive)

 

[Papa Adolfo's Take'n'Bake]

You said it right here. You react to a crisis with measures that fit the crisis. This is not the literal plague, ebolapox, or whatever, thus the government should not engage in massive, unprecedented suspensions of human rights for something rather less dangerous. It's like Illinois suspending the Second Amendment after a few worse than normal weekends in Chicago and a school shooting or two, and I don't mean the exceptional gun laws they pass/try to pass, I mean "all gun stores must close, ammo may not be sold, all concealed carry licenses must be turned in, anyone found with a gun will be arrested, all citizens strongly advised to turn in guns."

This is a pandemic and the USA issued "Stay -at-home" orders, as stated in the comment you replied to. You are not bolted into your home, you are not being stopped from attending to your everyday needs, you are literally being told to stop acting like an idiot in the middle of a pandemic so that it does not become a massive plague in the first place. Because, if you bothered to actually consider what I wrote, a pandemic is easier to contain, respond to and deal with than a plague. You still have your freedom to purchase guns, go to essential stores, and carry on your life per normal save for the exception of gathering in public during a god damn pandemic, thus becoming hosts for the virus to both spread and mutate in. (As was again said in my previous comment.)

Oh, I forgot Kiwifarms is full of virologists and epidemiologists now. I must look so stupid. I'm glad this site is full of experts in all manner of professions like the experts on Texas civil law down at the Weeb Wars forum.

Never claimed to be a virologist, nor an epidimielogist, I'm just pointing out the bullshit being spewed by a reactionary retard with a thing for drawn child porn. It is you yourself introducing both this concept and then comparing it to Weeb Wars, which is TOTALLY relevant guise.

You seem to be a very selfless, altruistic person. How much did you donate to charity last year? Did you vote for Bernie Sanders so the government will raise your taxes to take your money (which you don't need) to help people with more Medicare for All or programs for poor people? Come on man, put in the self-sacrifice, your money doesn't matter compared to human suffering, right? No surprise there's already the usual MSM crew going on about how this will lead to AOC crowd's ideas becoming accepted everywhere.

If you hide from mockery behind tired /pol/ talking points you'll definitely get your updoots! and then you can show them off when the public gets to bask in your presence as it so clearly hungers to!

But unironically yes, I am worth more than elderly people, and this is confirmed by the law because if you kill me and my family wins a wrongful death claim against you, you would pay out more than if you killed my octogenarian grandmother. This is also what they are doing in crowded hospitals right now. The old people are shoved to the back of the bus.

Dox your job, income, and age then. Clearly you're going to be worth so much more than the various, distinguished professors, engineers, and historians in the at-risk category. Also, good job using your baseless narcissism to dismiss the value of other human lives again. The more you do it, the more endearing you become.

Yes, yes I am, because when you take the emotional blinders off about muh infectious lethal death cough, it's literally the same thing. "I am putting others at risk by going about my daily life." Millions of people do this, and in the US alone this kills over 30,000 people and injures 2 million people (some for life) annually. If that were a disease that would be a pandemic. So let's heavily restrict/curfew the use of cars and mandate public transit to stop this, because we can't allow people to make such dangerous choices that harm others. This is not too restrictive, you can still function with such minimal use of a car, right?

Not even an emotional blinder. Think of the following, what can kill more people? A contagious, Virulent disease spread by retards like you or even the worst multi-vehicle automobile accident? You can try to dismiss very clear physical differences between the two, but it really is not helping your case.

H1N1 mutated into less dangerous flus and still circulates every single year. Many other seasonal flus trace their lineage to H3N2 aka the Hong Kong pandemic flu of 1968. The dangerous H1N1 flus are kept to minimum in part because of this (and because they rarely emerge anyway). And guess what happened to smallpox? I thought you were an expert on virology or something, this is like 101 level shit.

Like smallpox, alastrim has now been totally eradicated from the globe thanks to the 1960s Global Smallpox Eradication campaign. The last case of indigenous variola minor was reported in a Somali cook, Ali Maow Maalin, in October 1977, and smallpox was officially declared eradicated worldwide in May 1980.

C'mon bor, this is Reading comprehension 101 shit, lmao. I thought you were a big brain boi. Didn't even touch the other two.
Here's more for you to read. I'm going to just assume you won't tho, lol.

Yes, and it's not worth instituting totalitarianism for, especially the hilariously flawed version where you can take a plane to anywhere in the US and a few other countries yet can't go down to the bar for a drink with friends. Or even meet with more than one friend in some countries.

Basic Quarantine measures=/=totalitarianism. You prolly didn't even have plans to leave whatever little shithole you fester in, and now you're mad you can't just spread virulent contagions as you please. How dare the entity charged with maintaining public order and dealing with crisis actually take hard steps to do so. But again, I feel SO HARD for the general public that will not be graced by your magnificent presence for all of a few months. O, the hmanity. What ever shall we do without your magnanimous contributions to all facets of everyday life.

'Cause billions of people misery to save maybe 100K lives and a few million people from getting sick" is a pretty shit tradeoff. Maybe not in totalitarian dream world, I mean Greta wants billions of people to suffer misery to save some lives from climate change even though there are better ways of dealing with the problem that don't involving human-inflicted suffering by being confined to a pod.

Continuing to screech about your "Confinement" is not particularly convincing of your worth to society, btw. They are still allowing for essential operations to continue at businesses deemed "Essential." Do you work at GameStop? Is that the problem here? Couldn't even land a gig at the Grocery store?

Greta Thunberg is retarded, I'll give you that. But addressing climate change will also require steps that if we let it get out of hand much mroe, will make Corona-Chan look like a cakewalk. Who then, do you believe should manage that crisis when the chickens really start coming home to roost? What measures do you think they will need to take? Are you going to cry about not being able to purchase HDPE products for single use bullshit?

Because the government totally isn't making plans house the severely ill in sports arenas, and I haven't seen anyone showing off papers from employers that are meant to be shown to the police if they stop them for traveling. And the National Guard has not been deployed anywhere, just like how the Spanish Legion is not patrolling the streets of Spain like it was the late 30s again. And there's absolutely not an increase in crime and record sales of guns ongoing.

If you seriously think people will remain peaceful for another few months I don't know what to say, and that's why the National Guard will come out to make sure people do. And they still won't since they can't be everywhere at once.

The National Guard also responded to Katrina, and they didn't seem to round up you special little heroes up and make you face the wall. They've also been deployed to help shovel snow during emergency snowfalls in multiple states. Almost like emergency response (which, again, is what normal, psychologically healthy adults consider an event with the possibility of killing thousands of people) is their primary domestic function.

I love un-cited schizo posting from a social maladjust that projects his own insanity on the public at large. Why wouldn't we entrust important public policy decisions to such retards?

 

[MediocreMilt]

I think my favorite threads are the ones that get shit up by people quoting each other ten times in the same post.

Meanwhile: China is putting their attempts at an unlockdown into gear

BNO Newsroom on Twitter

“BREAKING: China lifting restrictions on travel to and from Hubei province at midnight, except for Wuhan, where travel restrictions will be lifted on April 8”

twitter.com

BNO Newsroom on Twitter: "BREAKING: China lifting restrictions on tra…

archived 24 Mar 2020 17:48:51 UTC

archive.is

Hope this doesn't cause the second wave I'm pretty sure this is gonna cause.

 

[Pargon]

The old people are shoved to the back of the bus.

I can confirm firsthand that this is not the case in at least one hospital, and if it's not being done there then it's not being done in other places as well.

The elderly don't get an automatic sentence to a miserable, painful death just because you deem it so.

 

[It's HK-47]

I hate to rain on parades but isn't this thread supposed to be about lock-downs and cancellations? What's with all the massive, personal textwalls?

 

[Pargon]

I hate to rain on parades but isn't this thread supposed to be about lock-downs and cancellations? What's with all the massive, personal textwalls?

Defending/attacking the necessity thereof, but hey, you're a supervisor. Delete my posts on the subject if you deem fit. It's all shit.

 

[MediocreMilt]

Do the apparent shadowbans for being honest about what the CCP did on Twitter count toward this thread? Anyway they came for Jersh now. Previously MisterAntiBully and Breaking911, probably others.

🇮🇱 יהושע מון 🇮🇱 on Twitter

“Based! https://t.co/NYgjdpgUd4”

twitter.com

🇮🇱 יהושע מון 🇮🇱 on Twitter: "Based!… "

ארכיון ‎2020 מרץ‎ 24, 18:34:24 UTC‏

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🇮🇱 יהושע מון 🇮🇱 on Twitter

“It's virus related. I was fine for over a year until I made a tweet containing the Coof word. https://t.co/98R8EKoF7Q”

twitter.com

🇮🇱 יהושע מון 🇮🇱 on Twitter: "It's virus related. I was fine for o…

ארכיון ‎2020 מרץ‎ 24, 18:32:55 UTC‏

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[Pargon]

Do the apparent shadowbans for being honest about what the CCP did on Twitter count toward this thread? Anyway they came for Jersh now. Previously MisterAntiBully and Breaking911, probably others.
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🇮🇱 יהושע מון 🇮🇱 on Twitter

“Based! https://t.co/NYgjdpgUd4”

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🇮🇱 יהושע מון 🇮🇱 on Twitter

“It's virus related. I was fine for over a year until I made a tweet containing the Coof word. https://t.co/98R8EKoF7Q”

twitter.com

http://archive.li/2Dpxc

TFW the focus on sanitization during a pandemic is directed at the internet and not elevator buttons or wet markets.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Gotta make sure those arrogant western pigs know who is responsible. Not the communist party. I for one welcome our CCP overlords and applauds Twitter's forthright efforts to insure conformity of thought along party doctrines and Xi Xingping thought.

 

[It's HK-47]

Defending/attacking the necessity thereof, but hey, you're a supervisor. Delete my posts on the subject if you deem fit. It's all shit.

I'm not asking anyone to delete anything, I'm just trying to poke people back onto the relative topic. I don't know if there's an appropriate thread for personal Wuhan text-walling, though. There's so many threads for Wu Flu that I don't keep up with all of them.

 

[Pargon]

I'm not asking anyone to delete anything, I'm just trying to poke people back onto the relative topic. I don't know if there's an appropriate thread for personal Wuhan text-walling, though. There's so many threads for Wu Flu that I don't keep up with all of them.

Maybe there just needs to be a "debate response to/responsibility for Wuhan here" thread.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

offtopic

I'm sorry your grandma died of kung-flu. I will try and be more respectful of presenting the facts next time.

I'm not asking anyone to delete anything, I'm just trying to poke people back onto the relative topic. I don't know if there's an appropriate thread for personal Wuhan text-walling, though. There's so many threads for Wu Flu that I don't keep up with all of them.

Put it in Deep Thots, this keeps coming up every few pages and will keep coming up.

 

[Mexican_Wizard_711]

If you faggots don't stop arguing, then I will post a picture of my penis right now

 

[moocow]

Florida capital (Tallahassee) and surrounding county are closing up shop with a weaksauce stay-at-home order (archive):

"You can still go to the park. You can still walk your dog. You can still go to work," Leon County Commission Chairman Brian Desloge said. "But large groups should not gather and families should only leave homes for the essentials."

So really it's a "meh, stay home, if you feel like it, no biggie, feel free to go out though" sort of wishy-washy "must look like I'm doing something" order.

 

[Pargon]

If you faggots don't stop arguing, then I will post a picture of my penis right now

Promise?

Michigan Lockdown, Day 1
Governor on the internet and radio throughout the day talking about how it's everyone's responsibility to stay home or otherwise work to prevent viral spread (to which I agree, haters don't @ me) and that it's "patriotic" to do so (which I fail to see how it's relevant, but this state has a large conservative side to which she must appeal). Emphasizing that at least here there is no force of law behind the order for individual citizens, only for businesses. Violation is a misdemeanor that carries a fine. So no drama with cops pulling people over and asking where they're headed.

Traffic lighter than in past weeks. At work we are awash mostly with calls from people asking about testing or whether their appointments are still being kept. Mood is jovial, from gallows humor to normie memes on the office chat. Everyone is trying to stay busy, which is not hard for now but we're noticing less and less demand for medical attention outside of COVID-19 symptoms. People are beginning to stay away from the doctor, which has good and bad implications.

Do not avoid medical attention if you think you need it. It would be a giant stupid shame if that cut on your arm got infected and you didn't get it treated for fear of Corona-chan only to have some ER doc have to amputate to save your dumb ass.

Stay safe, everyone.

 

[Radical Cadre]

If you faggots don't stop arguing, then I will post a picture of my penis right now

Do it, Paco. I've already gone through all the porn on the internet and need new material.

 

[Mexican_Wizard_711]

Promise?

I give you my word.