Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[captkrisma]

The lack of testing is a huge issue, because without testing, all the models are lacking. All we are doing is inferring number of cases from the number of people needing treatment. We need to rest for current AND past infection because without that we simply do not know what the fuck is happening. In the last few days we’ve seen all the horrific models, then a study from a group at oxford which uses the key assumption that 0.1% of cases need hospitalisation. It’s embedded in this article

http://archive.li/wip/TbID1

“ In the most extreme scenario they estimate that if the virus had started being transmitted 38 days before the first confirmed death then 68 per cent of the UK population would have been infected by March 19.”

Please could someone archive the actual pdf of this study? It’s on this article on the archive link above, under the hyperlink text ‘Oxford study’

All the models vary widely, because they using Flawed assumptions as input. We need to know a. How many currently have the disease and b. How many have HAD it and recovered. Once we know that, we can combine with the actual clinical data and have a far more accurate picture of what’s happening. Testing is expensive on that scale, but it’s vital and compared to the cost to the economy as lives it’s pocket money.

Another issue are the groups that refuse to test outright. I've been told that the military's response to this is a 14 day quarantine and then immediate treatment if symptoms persist. They won't even bother testing because all it would do is add a tick mark to the statistics and use up a test that could be of better use to the general public. The only ones I've seen tested were guys coming in from NYC off leave and that's only about 4.

Deaths would be added to statistics, but that's after the fact. Of course, military docs being military, they prescribed one of my bubbas mucinex and aspirin.

 

[DewsLit]

Please could someone archive the actual pdf of this study? It’s on this article on the archive link above, under the hyperlink text ‘Oxford study’

This one?

 

[SparklyFetuses]

(Articles are in spanish.)

Third death case in Chile. In the nursing home the guy lived in, most of its residents are under quarantine: https://www.cooperativa.cl/noticias...-82-anos-en-concepcion/2020-03-25/112441.html
Archive: http://archive.is/72aVT

One of ONEMI's regional directors got the Wu Flu: http://lanacion.cl/2020/03/25/direc...des-contagiadas-por-covid-19-en-la-araucania/
Archive: http://archive.is/9Gh5i

 

[AmpleApricots]

I feel most western governments right now (germany which I'm in included) will just try to get society used to the reality that people will die from this and that there's nothing to be done about it for a while, as you can't just shut down countries for a few months. That's how you get mad max. You don't want mad max. That's also why the Chinese declare the crisis "over". They don't have any other choice. And remember that the chinese are a population that are used to hardship and being shoved around by big government. We are not. I don't have anything against the common chinese guy (besides that he's a dirty fucker) but I sure hope we as the west learn our lesson from this and stop trying to one-up one another and learn what "free world countries" are again. I hope we'll see increased cooperation and the western societes sticking closely together against inhumane states like comchina. Rate me optimistic if you must.

This will shape the world forever. Remember how it was before it all happened. We as a species went through worse, we in the west just won't have that cozy "modern medicine people get a hundred years old" thing anymore and will probably very well lose some other luxuries. There's some very dear friends and family members I have I think I might lose. I just don't see what else can be done besides hoping the most catastrophic models are wrong.

 

[Cure Milquetoast]

 

[New & Improved Username]

With regard to freeing prisoners, there are still lots of people in jail in this country over marijuana. Any drug crimes that didn't involve guns or violence should be allowed to gtfo.

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

Any bets on who will be the Lehman Brothers of this economic clusterfuck?

 

[mindlessobserver]

Any bets on who will be the Lehman Brothers of this economic clusterfuck?

My money is on big retail and department stores like JC Penney and the like. They were already on life support. This is probably the kill shot.

 

[A Proud Black Woman]

With regard to freeing prisoners, there are still lots of people in jail in this country over marijuana. Any drug crimes that didn't involve guns or violence should be allowed to gtfo.

We will need their organs though. If they are free it will be harder to harvest them.

 

[Reverend]

Any bets on who will be the Lehman Brothers of this economic clusterfuck?

Telecom companies for soaking the US Public for billions and having netflix, youtube, and the internet be slower than a golden girls episode.

The internet backbone/backhaul companies are going to be pointing fingers as to why there is a steady decline of service after all the GEEBEES of tubes were promised to the american people.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

Piping hot take: Matt Hancock’s having a dreadful war but Rishi Sunak is playing a blinder. Britfags, discuss

I think both of them are doing very well under the immense pressure (to the point any vaguely mainstream Labour bod won't attack). Anyone seen trying to play politics is being shouted down, just like that twat Ian Lavery.

Hancock's been given such a bum role in this as he's got a system that was still only ever really half reformed and still needed a lot of tinkering and then given a nigh on impossible task of steering a disparate health system through an unprecedented crisis. That being said, he's being relentlessly attacked by the MSM, which means he must be doing something right. He was meant to be a quiet, safe pair of hands to replace Jeremy Hunt only to find himself trying to be Field Marshall in a huge war.

He's been mocked repeatedly by the media for his calls to arms, only for the british public to stick their hands up and hear the call repeatedly.

From 1400 companies switching to making CPAP machines to 170,000 in just 15 hours volunteering to call the vulnerable and do shopping for them to over 10,000 retired NHS workers putting themselves at risk to hit the front line in an unprecedented time of crisis.

Sunak however, is someone thrown into the deep end only to shoot up like a cork. Measures are being introduced when they need to be, he's making good, impactful short speeches that are just too long to be a proper soundbite. He's gone from "could make a good Chancellor 10 years down the line" to some corners whispering he'd make a good successor to BoJo when he finally bows out.

Northern, immigrant descended, down to earth Yorkshire lad with a seemingly good head for numbers and business as well as a big fan of the Free Ports which will see a great rebalancing of the economy. It'd stick in the craw of the human zoo fetishists in Labour who've continued to fail to elect women or minorities to any positions of significance or Leadership.

Oh how I'd laugh given the chance to vote for him as leader....

EDIT: Got to remember, the NHS is a slow, lumbering beast but can be eventually coaxed into moving quickly. The logistical nightmare of moving 15 million masks in just 48 hours has just been completed according to Health and Social Care's Twitter.

 

[C. Cactus]

The comic book industry was already falling apart. Between the corona shutdown and the bullshit "New Warriors" Marvel just released, comic shops will soon be a thing of the past.

 

[Slap47]

He's sent four other people home sick, with pay, and hopes that they get better.

A kind soul. Most employers are trying to force people to work and some people like Rush L. have been saying that we should sacrifice the boomers for the sake of the economy.

Still, throwing tantrums at people who follow the norm of work culture of going in when sick is just dumb.

 

[Coolio55]

I completely expected the end of society as we know it but I sure didn't expect it to be as crap and unfun as it's turning out to be.

London woman dies of suspected Covid-19 after being told she was 'not priority'

Kayla Williams, 36, from Peckham, south London, died a day after calling 999 Coronavirus – all updates

www.theguardian.com

According to hysterical redditors, this woman was left to die by an awful huwhite paramedic because she's black and female. Paragraphs and paragraphs on racism and sexism and then

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>Death panel declares woman not eligable for continued life
>She dies

Hmm. I wonder what could have caused this... ? Some sort of massive unfit for purpose embezzlement entity perhaps?
Whitey of course!

Ps.
Why did a good royal have to get it? Why couldn't it have been Harry or Andrew?

 

[simulated goat]

Any bets on who will be the Lehman Brothers of this economic clusterfuck?

This will likely nuke a lot of discount and overstock places. Dollar Stores. Anyone who relied on a shitton of cheap inventory on a weekly basis.

 

[New & Improved Username]

I wonder if, after this is done, the government would pay people to get medical degrees. I would sign up for a few years of indentured servitude in exchange for a free ride through nursing school.

 

[ConfederateIrishman]

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That's interesting. Sean Davis is doing a dive into the prediction models that Covid Act Now was pushing on local governments and officials, and none of the data is lining up. All of the states where they were anticipating that we'd be up in the several hundreds or thousands by this date are still overwhelmingly in the double digits. For New York they're off by more than 10,000 cases.

Until this is all said and done, how will we know? There is a shortage of tests that are still being rectified so it is not like official cases will match with actual cases for the time being.

 

[DubbleBubble]

The number of deaths of the below 29 age groups are microscopic. Even in italy the deaths of 49 and under were below 20 when the total death toll was approaching 3000, and all of them were obese, either diabetic or suffering high blood pressure, ece. None were healthy.

There are young people with compromised immune systems and underlying conditions, I speak from personal experience, but this isnt spanish flu 2 chink bogaloo. If you do not have a compromised immune system then you have a 99.9% chance of being fine, about the same odds as regular flu seasons.

It's the western world, everyone is either fucking fat, a smoker, diabetic, asthmatic, eating shit that'll kill them, or otherwise not 100% peak human fitness. Most people today just aren't made of the same strong cloth as they used to be, and the death toll is showing that. No panic bro, but everyone... just do the things your being told to do, stay the fuck inside, stop touching everything, keep the kids away from grandma and accept that spring break 2020 is cancelled.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Italy is always on the brink of collapse and their strict stay at home rules arent helping with that.

Our stay at home rules are just as strict. As for being on the brink of collapse. In the Harem Anime of Europe when someone asked Spain-chan when was the last time she wasn't depressed, she had a mental breakdown.

Can someone translate? Only word I understood was "fooking"

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

So... Yet again, Media/Lefty Twitter falling on their fucking faces.

The Govt/Health Minister Matt Hancock asked for 250,000 Volunteers. In 24 hours over 400,000 have signed up instead, and now the NHS is extending the target to 750,000 to try and cope with the demand.