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Sadly it died down nobody is talking about this thread on our forum anymore.

I understood your deconstruction because it was based on age. David Gandy still has killer looks though. It would have been better if we'd used examples of attractive men who are still in their prime:

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I just really want to achieve this :( Only ~50% for reasons related to picking up women. I'm starting orthodontic treatment soon to widen my smile. I'll probably also run a mild Test cycle. I need a few other minor things. I just hate waiting...

What makes you think looking attractive is all it takes to get women?
 
Sadly it died down nobody is talking about this thread on our forum anymore.

I understood your deconstruction because it was based on age. David Gandy still has killer looks though. It would have been better if we'd used examples of attractive men who are still in their prime:

Chad-White-the-model-wall-ftape-001.jpg


I just really want to achieve this :( Only ~50% for reasons related to picking up women. I'm starting orthodontic treatment soon to widen my smile. I'll probably also run a mild Test cycle. I need a few other minor things. I just hate waiting...

Glad to see you back. Do you understand Gestalt?

Gestalt is the concept in art that the combination of aspects creates something greater than the sum of its parts.
 
Yes the ego boost is also a nice effect. Feel like Bateman from American Psycho on your way home after being with a 6+ girl.
You know Bateman is a psychopath don't you? Hell it's even in the book's title!

Uh I dunno... Honestly I don't really enjoy sex THAT much... It's okay... It's mostly the adrenaline rush for me, the girl gets boring quickly unless she's out of my league but I'm guessing on that point as I've not really been with girls out of my league by much. The effort for me is worth it though for reasons other than just the women.
So would you say that sex is little more than a self-esteem boost for you? Women (and men in case you're actually gay) doesn't take too kindly being used this way. It's not sexy.
 
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See, when you look for flaws by removing the gestalt, you are going to find them. Also I notice gingers and blonds are a significant minority of the people that your site users aspire to be.

Male models these days are often brunetts simply because of the desire to have ads that can be displayed in global campaigns. It has nothing to do with what is considered perfect, it is more about economy and localization costs. Basically ad agencies pick people that can be used in multiple locations for their campaigns and media.

Do you really like ad agencies telling you if you are good looking or not? People are affected by their mediascape, but why are you letting it affect you so much?
 
Uh I dunno... Honestly I don't really enjoy sex THAT much... It's okay... It's mostly the adrenaline rush for me, the girl gets boring quickly unless she's out of my league but I'm guessing on that point as I've not really been with girls out of my league by much. The effort for me is worth it though for reasons other than just the women.
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See, when you look for flaws by removing the gestalt, you are going to find them. Also I notice gingers and blonds are a significant minority of the people that your site users aspire to be.

Male models these days are often brunetts simply because of the desire to have ads that can be displayed in global campaigns. It has nothing to do with what is considered perfect, it is more about economy and localization costs. Basically ad agencies pick people that can be used in multiple locations for their campaigns and media.

Do you really like ad agencies telling you if you are good looking or not? People are affected by their mediascape, but why are you letting it affect you so much?

I don't mind having flaws if overall I look as handsome as that guy. I already know what I need to do to get there it's just that it takes so much time... I can't even get a hair transplant until I'm ~25 because nobody reputable will do it on people under 25. Plus saving the money for each thing can take time. By the end of this year I should be partway through orthodontic treatment, have a minor local anaesthetic surgery and have leaned out my face more and improved my physique further... Which is about halfway through the journey.
 
I don't mind having flaws if overall I look as handsome as that guy. I already know what I need to do to get there it's just that it takes so much time... I can't even get a hair transplant until I'm ~25 because nobody reputable will do it on people under 25. Plus saving the money for each thing can take time. By the end of this year I should be partway through orthodontic treatment, have a minor local anaesthetic surgery and have leaned out my face more and improved my physique further... Which is about halfway through the journey.

So you have a plan. I take it you are balding. Surgery is usually the last straw. I would guess if it has come to that point you are out of options for your hair at the moment.

Again, you missed my last questions. Beauty for models theses days is less about actual perfection and more about what sells/makes money for the companies.

Do you really like ad agencies telling you if you are good looking or not? People are affected by their mediascape, but why are you letting it affect you so much?
 
I don't mind having flaws if overall I look as handsome as that guy. I already know what I need to do to get there it's just that it takes so much time... I can't even get a hair transplant until I'm ~25 because nobody reputable will do it on people under 25. Plus saving the money for each thing can take time. By the end of this year I should be partway through orthodontic treatment, have a minor local anaesthetic surgery and have leaned out my face more and improved my physique further... Which is about halfway through the journey.

Why are you so willing to use surgery despite it being a expensive option to look more attractive?
Why is getting laid such a priority for you?

These are simple questions. Shouldn't take you any time at all to answer them.
 
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So you have a plan. I take it you are balding. Surgery is usually the last straw. I would guess if it has come to that point you are out of options for your hair at the moment.

Again, you missed my last questions. Beauty for models theses days is less about actual perfection and more about what sells/makes money for the companies.

Do you really like ad agencies telling you if you are good looking or not? People are affected by their mediascape, but why are you letting it affect you so much?
Yep, I'm following my dad's hair loss pattern, which means I will end up about Norwood 3. I can't recover temple hair to Norwood 1 or 0.5 without a transplant as far as I know. Meds could make me completely impotent and are mostly for maintaining. I have a pretty solid plan in my head of where I am now and where I want to be.

I did see what you said. Not really sure how to answer. I want to achieve a look that is considered attractive by modern day standards, I have no problems conforming.

Why are you so willing to use surgery despite it being a expensive option to look more attractive?
Why is getting laid such a priority for you?

These are simple questions. Shouldn't take you any time at all to answer them.

Don't know I've always been pretty driven to women from my very first day in high school I wanted to be a player and from even earlier I cared a lot about my physical appearance. I was into PUA even before I was 13 believe it or not. I have no issues spending the money or putting in the effort to achieve what I want.
 
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Yep, I'm following my dad's hair loss pattern, which means I will end up about Norwood 3. I can't recover temple hair to Norwood 1 or 0.5 without a transplant as far as I know. Meds could make me completely impotent and are mostly for maintaining. I have a pretty solid plan in my head of where I am now and where I want to be.

I did see what you said. Not really sure how to answer. I want to achieve a look that is considered attractive by modern day standards, I have no problems conforming.
You already have it. Just leave the house.

Don't know I've always been pretty driven to women from my very first day in high school I wanted to be a player and from even earlier I cared a lot about my physical appearance. I was into PUA even before I was 13 believe it or not. I have no issues spending the money or putting in the effort to achieve what I want.

Lemme guess, then you got "friendzoned" and had a breakdown.

As a woman that mistakenly dated a player for a few years, all you have to be is somewhat handsome (you already pass this criteria with flying colors) and extroverted so you can meet tons and tons of girls. You also have to be willing to lie to girls and cheat.

Can you do the other three? Do you have what it takes to be a dirt bag?
 
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I did see what you said. Not really sure how to answer. I want to achieve a look that is considered attractive by modern day standards, I have no problems conforming.

That is where you and I differ.

It means that rather than always conforming, I choose to break the system or bend it, not through nihilism or anger; but through a stronger vision, artistic ability, and willingness to be open to the system - altering it by being a participant.

Why is it the more I talk with you all the more I find that rather than trying to positively change reality, you are really just all trying to conform to a false realilty?

You take yourselves out of the game of life.

The Character I use for my Avatar - Neku Sakuraba - his story is exactly what I am referring to. Your world ends with you, it is as big or as small as you make it. When you take yourself out of the game of life, you are left with very small warped world to live in.

I chose this avatar because a trait I see in most cows is their narrow vision of the world.
 
Lemme guess, then you got "friendzoned" and had a breakdown.
I never got friendzoned until I was ~18 after I had put on a lot of weight. I did go pretty crazy about that. I retreated for a long time to work on myself. I did a 24+ mile walk the day after that girl turned me down. It was rough... And then one other time I got zoned and then worked out even more and tweaked myself. But that's the only times I experienced such a thing.
 
That is where you and I differ.

It means that rather than always conforming, I choose to break the system or bend it, not through nihilism or anger; but through a stronger vision, artistic ability, and willingness to be open to the system - altering it by being a participant.

Why is it the more I talk with you all the more I find that rather than trying to positively change reality, you are really just all trying to conform to a false realilty?

You take yourselves out of the game of life.

The Character I use for my Avatar - Neku Sakuraba - his story is exactly what I am referring to. Your world ends with you, it is as big or as small as you make it. When you take yourself out of the game of life, you are left with very small warped world to live in.

I chose this avatar because a trait I see in most cows is their narrow vision of the world.

Well done.
 
Don't know I've always been pretty driven to women from my very first day in high school I wanted to be a player and from even earlier I cared a lot about my physical appearance. I was into PUA even before I was 13 believe it or not. I have no issues spending the money or putting in the effort to achieve what I want.

So basically you see women as tools for your perverse fantasies that you believe will allow you full access to their vaginas when you blow all of your money on cosmetic surgery.

You're a goddamn idiot.

Why is it the more I talk with you all the more I find that rather than trying to positively change reality, you are really just all trying to conform to a false realilty?

I'm gonna steal that quote if you don't mind. It describes these guys perfectly.
 
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