Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[AmpleApricots]

Just curious since I'm assuming you're German, do you recall what that issue regarding the German method of counting Corona-related deaths was all about? I have only a vague memory of reading something about that at some point. I think it was about Germany ascribing Covid-19 as the cause of death only when no other cause could be identified, even when the identifiable cause, like organ failure, was ultimately due to a Corona infection.

Could be bullshit, though. I honestly don't recall the details.

Germany started contact testing really early on and was better at identifiying sick people (because of much bigger lab capacities than say, spain) which means that germanys "confirmed infected" number contains a lot more non-critical cases than the numbers of other countries. You can also tell by the age range of people confirmed infected containing many more younger people than the ones in italy and spain, that are mainly old people and mainly people that arrived at a clinic in already bad condition. It's very likely that countries like Spain and Italy have a huge number of unidentified cases that are asympthomatic or only lightly ill. So the smaller death toll in relation to the infected numbers is basically because of how well the countries have been handling this testing. South Korea is similar to Germany in this regard. Of course this basically makes comparing these numbers useless. which again, means we really really do need a lot more of testing.

The discrepancy overall with the old and sick people might be that germany locked down the retirement homes, various care facilities and hospitals to visitors basically as soon as the virus was identified as a danger. Culturally, germans also don't tend to live with older relatives but drop them off at specialized care facilities to be forgotten about. France is somewhere in between and does a lot of at-home care.

EDIT: Germany also started to take patients from other countries since our hospitals aren't overrun by this.

 

[Stasi]

Not sure if this got posted already, thread is moving super fast

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-52041709

21 year old with no pre existing conditions dies from coronavirus. Looks like its just quoting her family and not any official report so maybe bullshit but still.

https://archive.li/60XAg

 

[Pokemonquistador2]

You're really going to pretend that only one party put their bullshit in? If the refugees and migrants are Americans fleeing American plague zones that would be great. Probably not the case though.

Don't be disingenuous. You know exactly what the bill means when it refers to "refugees..." And I'm not any more happy about Republicans using this bill as an means to pad out their retirement accounts than I am about Democrats using it as a magical wishing well...

 

[Stoneheart]

Went to Rite Aid to get milch,there was plenty. One of the employees was at the door wearing a face mask, limiting the number of people that could come in.

Milch? Nazi!

German citizens Christina F. and Thomas G. (both researchers owning a patent for hantavirus and a bunch of other viruses) are probably the first two people incarcerated in Spain in relation to the coronavirus.

very strange. why would anybody flee to spain?

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Milch? Nazi!


very strange. why would anybody flee to spain?

That particular word filter made me a Nazi though

 

[New & Improved Username]

Some more info on the Wuflu.

https://youtu.be/A1F_kWYdqUY

Earlier in the thread the phone thing was brought up saying it was 8million, this video says 21 million. I totally believe it was and still is far worse than China says but I don't believe they could cover up 8 million dead bodies unless they just left them to rot in their apartment buildings.

If they moved that much meat to incinerators there would be too much evidence to keep it a secret.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

She was having "unbearably painful" chest pains but she managed to take a selfie, post it to social media and blame Trump?

Does anyone else take a grim satisfaction that she seems to have aged about 30 years in the last few years? She's withering away.

Some more info on the Wuflu.

https://youtu.be/A1F_kWYdqUY

That is interesting. He talks about the decline in cellphone subscribers in China, 'bat virus' researchers at the Wuhan Institute for Virology and bear bile medicine. Here's a local upload in case it gets nuked

local mirror:

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Very salry kek news coming in once again!

Turns out the new testing method (quicktests by antibodies) involved materials (the antibodies in question) bought from china. Said materials were of the quality expected from china, and as a result the test is only right 30% of the time. That btw is 30% including false positives AND false negatives. Do please note that having some crazy fuck say "yes" or "no" randomly on a room with no info on the patient would give you a 50% efficiency. That's right! This shit is worse than random chance. On the better news Decathlon, yes that Decathlon, has donated a buncha snorkel masks to try and stop the lack of masks temporarily. Yes, snorkel masks, yes, it works. Kek.

Btw, do remember our government decided to shift production to that shit immediately and without plan B. As such they sent the cops to take all materials for the old test method from all provinces that aren't madrid. Btw remember how in Puerta del Mar we were trying to test our personnel due to an outbreak on the hospital itself? Well. The cops just went ahead and informed us that officially it was an unknown respiratory disease, and therefore they would not give a shit. As of this morning we have no tests, no masks, and we don't know how many of our own medical professionals will need ventilators, which if the mechanic is perfect we might have 3 of by the end of the day. Cadiz didn't die. It was murdered. And it's too far gone to not make jokes about it. The news just told us to put a sock in it. Meanwhile the catalonians are the only ones trying to send us something on the down low so madrid won't steal it. Ladies and gentlemen. Clownworld. Where the charity of the catalonians is your only chance of survival. Again btw more and more small, medium and autonomous businesses join in to aid, while the PP rees at them for communism and the PSOE thinks of ways to screw them over. I'm changing my fucking description just for this.

Meanwhile we got another outbreak in neurology. And what a hilarious one it is. Turns out some incredible fucking big brain of a nurse used a nebulizer to treat a patient that, aside from the neurological disease that required said medicine, had obvious signs of corona. Saw the signs, and didn't give a shit until another nurse came in 1 week later and realized this shit and made the test. And of fucking course it was corona. For those that don't know a nebulizer uses AEROSOL, and has HOLES FOR BREATHING. Due to which it is specifically NEVER TO BE USED IN ANY PATIENT WITH A BIOAEROSOL DISEASE AS IT GREATLY AIDS CONTAGION. We're pretty sure all of neurology. Patients and staff alike. Is infected. We would test them but we have no tests. Hooray for the Civil Guard!

Most of the public got no fucking clue what's going on, so their morale is ultrahigh. But the doctors are finally at the point where it's obvious the jokes are a coping mechanism. Like... you know when you witness someone break into tears in the middle of a joke? Yeah that's where we're at. A3 media got their press notes but they told us to suck it buttercup. This is the state of the press ladies and gentlemen.

At this point all I want to say is, as much as they bitch about Cadiz being unproductive. It took every single politician in spain backstabing us and stealing our gear from us, multiple of our nurses and patients being complete fucktards, the Guardia Civil going full Grey on us and a global pandemic to take us to the brink of collapse. And at least for now we still stand. All I can say is this ship ain't sinking if I can do anything about it. But honestly I don't even know if I can anymore. Fuck I'm still not allowed to go back to the hospital due to possible infection and I'm not stupid enough to go without a test guaranteeing I won't infect the others.

 

[AmpleApricots]

Interesting currently is also Iceland, who tested thousands of people (a lot for iceland) and found 218 cases, noting that half of them are completely asymptomatic. The other half has mild, cold-like symptoms.

They also did genetic sequencing on their tests and found already 40 mutations of the wuflu, which might mean that it will become a seasonal thing and more infectious, but less deadly. It also sadly means that it might make it difficult to develop vaccines for it.

In other good news, blood plasma transfusions from recovered people with active antibodies has shown promise in treatment.

 

[Stoneheart]

As of this morning we have no tests, no masks, and we don't know how many of our own medical professionals will need ventilators

well you just need the primer for the tests. call the university to make you a bunch. the rest of the test should be no problem for any lab.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

well you just need the primer for the tests. call the university to make you a bunch. the rest of the test should be no problem for any lab.

The universities also have no chemicals for CPR. The government straight up stole them all.

 

[wokelizard]

That's the threat. However, that is the threat if you repeatedly breach what some worthless pig tells you to do (i.e. not the first time), or if you fight them.

I agree fully. It's scary how on more mainstream forums, the majority of commenters seem to be taking an almost spiteful glee in encouraging and hoping the police 'crack down hard' on 'irresponsible flouters'. Easy to see how irrationality prevailed in the witch hunt times. It seems like a deep primal part of human nature to be this way, when fearful and authority presents a solution that purports to keep you safe, and the mob is baying for blood.

I plan to find a nice spot in a park, or perhaps the beach, to sit and read in the springtime sun. I'll be polite to any police officer challenging me, explaining that I have seen nobody, talked to nobody, and am a threat to nobody. I might even suck up a 30 pound fine for doing so. But I won't be sent back to my home, to suffer under house arrest and breathe the communal air of my housemates (which if any are asymptomatic carriers, is likely to contain a higher viral density than outdoors air), to comply with an irrational and fundamental assault on liberty.

FDIC federally insures all cash in bank accounts up to $250,000 per person.

Your money is fine.

So did Cyprus, as part of the EU all bank deposits are insured. They got around that law, by claiming what they did was a bail-IN where they give your savings a haircut to save the bank. It was all legal. Pensioners lost a chunk of their life savings. You really ought by now to know that 'I've changed the deal, pray I do not change it further' is SOP for any entity with a monopoly on the use of force.

 

[New & Improved Username]

In other good news, blood plasma transfusions from recovered people with active antibodies has shown promise in treatment.

Can the same donors keep giving? Like will they continue to produce the same concentration of antibodies in the new blood they make to replace the donated blood and if so for how long?

 

[Stoneheart]

The universities also have no chemicals for CPR. The government straight up stole them all.

what? how? normaly the stuff is in all kinds of freezers. why is the government only working well when they try to fuck you over...

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

what? how? normaly the stuff is in all kinds of freezers. why is the government only working well when they try to fuck you over...

We're on lockdown, and spain's labs are either public, or do nothing ever. Public labs were the first thing to get ransacked or enslaved by the gov. Private ones as always bitch about communism and claim to be essential while doing fuck all. Welcome to spain.

 

[Evilronald]

I agree fully. It's scary how on more mainstream forums, the majority of commenters seem to be taking an almost spiteful glee in encouraging and hoping the police 'crack down hard' on 'irresponsible flouters'. Easy to see how irrationality prevailed in the witch hunt times. It seems like a deep primal part of human nature to be this way, when fearful and authority presents a solution that purports to keep you safe, and the mob is baying for blood.

I plan to find a nice spot in a park, or perhaps the beach, to sit and read in the springtime sun. I'll be polite to any police officer challenging me, explaining that I have seen nobody, talked to nobody, and am a threat to nobody. I might even suck up a 30 pound fine for doing so. But I won't be sent back to my home, to suffer under house arrest and breathe the communal air of my housemates (which if any are asymptomatic carriers, is likely to contain a higher viral density than outdoors air), to comply with an irrational and fundamental assault on liberty.


So did Cyprus, as part of the EU all bank deposits are insured. They got around that law, by claiming what they did was a bail-IN where they give your savings a haircut to save the bank. It was all legal. Pensioners lost a chunk of their life savings. You really ought by now to know that 'I've changed the deal, pray I do not change it further' is SOP for any entity with a monopoly on the use of force.

That’s been the worst part of this for me: the courts are closed and the petty tyrants that run things have revealed that they give 0 fucks about people’s civil rights. They have every right to shut down businesses and large crowds, but how are they expecting compliance from people when they can’t see friends, family, their significant others, etc. They would get much better results if they concentrated only on the highest risk activities like large groups, beaches, parks and making sure people are keeping sufficient social distance. What they shouldn’t be doing, is stopping mom from dropping off little Timmy at a friends house so it isn’t a murder suicide.
It seems like the government cares more about “saving lives” from the corona virus than actually concerning themselves about just how shitty all our lives will be when this is over.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

what? how? normaly the stuff is in all kinds of freezers. why is the government only working well when they try to fuck you over...

You can hate Regan all you want, but when he said "The Scariest words in the English language are "I am from the Government, I am Here to help." He was on fucking point.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

From posts and infos found on 4chan (yeah i know, i know... but looks interesting)

German citizens Christina F. and Thomas G. (both researchers owning a patent for hantavirus and a bunch of other viruses) are probably the first two people incarcerated in Spain in relation to the coronavirus.

Google Traduction

Una huida con embestidas y atropellos a policías y guardias civiles provoca los primeros encarcelados por el estado de alarma

Los ciudadanos alemanes Christina F. y Thomas G. son, probablemente, las dos primeras personas encarceladas en España en relación al coronavirus La culpa la tiene un enloquecido at

www.elmundo.es

Google Traduction

archived 26 Mar 2020 02:56:58 UTC

archive.li

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The story goes back to last Friday afternoon. A BMW 325 ci convertible and registered in Germany tried to access Spain from France through the Canfranc (Huesca) border post . Suddenly, the car accelerated, ran over a National Police patrol and started a race at very high speed. Since the National Police team was unable to leave the border, they asked other colleagues and other Civil Guard crews for support.

After the town of Jaca , two bikers from the Civil Guard stationed themselves at a roundabout. The BMW dodged control, traversed the scene, and continued to flee as the two officers pursued their pursuit. A few kilometers later, two Civil Guard cars were placed at another roundabout on the road. Upon seeing them, the German couple hit one of them and continued the race while the other police vehicle and the two motorcycles were chasing her.

At that time, the scene was already crazy: a high-end car at full speed descending a mountain pass with its occupants throwing objects such as water bottles and a box against their pursuers and a patrol and two Civil Guard motorcycles stuck to He trying to stop it with the consequent danger for all the protagonists or any other driver who occupies the road. "

"
Almost at the end of the port, the Civil Guard car managed to overtake and was placed in front of the BMW while the two motorcycles were placed behind. According to Piedrafita's testimony, when the agents were making the escapes slow down, the BMW charged the patrol. "The two guards in the car got out as best they could," says the lawyer. At the time, the BMW "backtracked with the intention of running over the motorcycle officers." One of the guards jumped and his motorcycle was hit by the BMW.

Then, one of the officers fired into the air "as a deterrent" and when he saw the car continue on its way at high speed, the other civil guard fired two shots at the wheels. The BMW continued to race for a few meters until it stopped at a median and officers stopped its occupants.

They are two Germans, a woman without a record and a man who has a file for resistance to authority in Mallorca last November. "


They got a Novel Hantavirus Patent (related to wuhan):

US Patent for Polypeptides of a novel hantavirus Patent (Patent # 6,620,913 issued September 16, 2003) - Justia Patents Search

The present invention relates to the discovery of a novel Hantavirus. In particular, the present invention relates to nucleic acids of the newly discovered virus and to nucleic acid reagents and antibodies for use in methods of detection and prevention of infection by the virus.

patents.justia.com

‘Inventors: Stuart T. Nichol (Atlanta, GA), Christina F. Spiropoulou (Atlanta, GA), Thomas G. Ksiazek (Lilburn, GA), Pierre E. Rollin (Lilburn, GA)‘

Nipah virus too

Christina F Spiropoulou's lab | Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)

Principal Investigator: Christina F Spiropoulou | ResearchGate, the professional network for scientists

www.researchgate.net

For now they are facing 33 years in prison.

Meanwhile A3 media treating it as if they were just irresponsible spaniards...

Heh. Here in burger land if you try running over a cop that normally ends with a few "warning shots" to the chest.

Usually I'd say cops need to do anything they can to lower lethality. In this case, well they also needed low lethality, but only because I want them to go full Spanish Inquisition on the Krauts until they sell out their Chink overlords.

Hey can you get COVID from a dead body?

Depends on what you do to the body. But in general it's harder than with living people. Protip, don't french kiss the body. Don't eat the body. Don't fuck the body. Don't smash the body into powder and sniff it.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Protip, don't french kiss the body. Don't eat the body. Don't fuck the body. Don't smash the body into powder and sniff it.

Rero-Rero-Rero-Rero!

 

[ShadowDoc]

EDIT: I may be sucking cocks here. This could just be a bunch of blackpillers sperging over the earlier version of the bill. I will stand by my assertion that the original was full of Commie Shit, though.

Agree with you on all points mate. Blackpillers are annoying as shit. From what I gather, the really stupid shit got ditched (I.E Ballot Harvesting) but there is enough annoying shit still in the bill that will agitate people. Slightly OT, I can tell you most of TheDonald aren't too impressed with it.