We can't see the timestamps on the texts, so I'd say those are up in the air. But considering we have images of her talking about it on Discord as far back as 2017, it's not like this was just her reinventing things a few years afterwards. This was something she felt whilst in the relationship. Honestly, after the whole ProJared situation I'm suspending my belief/disbelief. Assuming the texts are legit for the sake of conjecture, Stryder does make points in there about her consenting to stuff or being anxious but then enjoying herself, which obviously isn't a contradiction, but I imagine if these texts were faked they'd be more antagonistic.
There are also things in the pastebin which are unverified, for instance, the hacking incident. She claims he hacked into everything, including her discord, which she definitely has access to considering she uploaded screenshots for this pastebin. I'd like to see the IP addresses for the alleged hacking incident for sure.
As it stands, I'm not going to bat for either side until we hear more about it or get verifiable evidence. Could be that Stryder just dumps 5 years of logs to show their full relationship and we can see the nature of the relationship from there. A lot of the replies to this are skeptical or outright antagonistic, so there will be demand for this kind of evidence soon enough.
Her claim that Stryder took the first day of AGDQ off is verifiable, since we have this tweet: View attachment 1184622View attachment 1184621
As is her claim that she and Stryder took SGDQ off. View attachment 1184620
She says he stayed with her for two weeks, but during that time Stryder uploaded a video. So either he was editing at hers, or he arrived before SGDQ and his stay with her was about halfway through as SGDQ was beginning, went home and made these videos. View attachment 1184619
Naturally, this proves nothing beyond the fact the timeline she alleges could definitely have occurred.
Seems like a good example of human relationships being messy and young adults not being good at setting/respecting their own boundaries while also sucking at communicating. It is our modern lens of the #metoo consent crap that makes this seem extraordinary. When you're young and stupid and fucking around alot, these things happen. Just because you had a bad time doesn't mean you were abused. Her bringing up this messiness from the past is just opportunism even if she always disliked it. Her feelings seem genuine but why share it now except as a means of revenge or as social leverage against the guy?
Good job archiving and sharing, helps shed light on it.
Seems like a good example of human relationships being messy and young adults not being good at setting/respecting their own boundaries while also sucking at communicating. It is our modern lens of the #metoo consent crap that makes this seem extraordinary. When you're young and stupid and fucking around alot, these things happen. Just because you had a bad time doesn't mean you were abused. Her bringing up this messiness from the past is just opportunism even if she always disliked it. Her feelings seem genuine but why share it now except as a means of revenge or as social leverage against the guy?
Good job archiving and sharing, helps shed light on it.
Yeah, from these messages she showed, I'm not going to say Stryder isn't being a dick but he's clearly being honest about the thoughts he's having and the miscommunication that's going on. He's even acknowledging past fuck-ups here, and she's saying "I don't like sex, it makes me uncomfortable, but I still do it," and then "I do a whole fucking lot" - it sounds like this conversation is less about him invading her boundaries, and more about what she does for him and what he does for her. In one of the screenshots where she's telling him to "pull his head out of his fucking ass" you can see a comment below that says "because your dick aint [...]" which seems kind of out of line considering the conversation.
I mean, in one of these she even says she lied to him about being okay with sexual stuff because "he was on the verge of killing himself". If that's true, yeah, he's out of line but that's still your responsibility to tell him these things. He responds saying that he asked her to be honest about these things, so I'm definitely leaning on the side of miscommunication.
I'm also suspect of the one comment he made about guys wanting to fuck, and then falling in love and women falling in love, then wanting to fuck. It's screenshotted in a way that obscures the previous and following messages. I feel like she saw that and thought "This will make people think he's a shitlord and join my side." and deliberately omitted the additional context.
They're actually invading a lot of communities like FFXIV online, Smash, etc.
I think it's because more men than women play games. So when a woman actually joins a community, you have a bunch of simps trying to get her favor so they give her lots of attention and praise.
Mentally ill men with low self-esteem and self-worth see these girls getting all this attention and praise and become jealous / envious, and then they realize they can identify as a woman to get that attention.
The sad part is that it actually works. You have "woke" people giving them validation because they're so brave for realizing they're trans. And then you have incels who are now getting attention from these "women" and validate them further.
I miss the time before the Internet when the mentally ill weren't given a platform to spread their bs.
They're actually invading a lot of communities like FFXIV online, Smash, etc.
I think it's because more men than women play games. So when a woman actually joins a community, you have a bunch of simps trying to get her favor so they give her lots of attention and praise.
Mentally ill men with low self-esteem and self-worth see these girls getting all this attention and praise and become jealous / envious, and then they realize they can identify as a woman to get that attention.
The sad part is that it actually works. You have "woke" people giving them validation because they're so brave for realizing they're trans. And then you have incels who are now getting attention from these "women" and validate them further.
I miss the time before the Internet when the mentally ill weren't given a platform to spread their bs.
Back in the day it was enough to act flamboyant to get male attention. Guess that wasn't enough, so now they try to get the hetero crowd as well. I never see anyone point out they're female as much as trannies.
Who knew that people like women with their soft features and cute mannerisms over gruff men in dresses demanding special treatment and insisting everyone else behave a certain way.
Who knew that people like women with their soft features and cute mannerisms over gruff men in dresses demanding special treatment and insisting everyone else behave a certain way.
Update on the whole Stryder Situation - tl;dr is that he is going to be responding to it soon.
Since the whole accusations thing came about, Gab has only made one set of tweets since then basically taking a free shot at Stryder. One of his mods, mov mario paper, made a pastebin mocking her, tweeted it from his account and deleted it pretty quickly. She took this to further indict the guy.
According to someone quite fervently defending him in the comments section of his latest video - 'Mov Mario Paper says that Stryder denies the allegations, that there will be an official update, though this is TBA. But that firstly, steps must be taken to handle this professionally.'
In some of these comments, this user alludes to legal action. But I don't think there's any official support for that. A lot of the comments are mostly supportive/uncertain and waiting on his response. Some twitter women are in there bitching, but when aren't they. I think we might be getting a ProJared situation, or maybe something much cleaner.
I haven't watched the video yet, but I skimmed through it to parts where I could see she was showing her phone. There's nothing new in them, except confirmation of the dates of the messages (2017) and the fact the messenger was indeed Stryder (we see a custom gamecube controller and his silver play button.) Another thing about this video is the godawful presentation. She shows her phone to the camera, uses her fingers and a lighter to omit names, and uses a free editor that throws a watermark on the screen constantly.
I'll listen to it now, and I'll edit in a summary below the video.
01:57 - Customary 'thanks for the support' and 'I said this because I wanted to give people a space to talk about this'.
03:10 - She addresses why she didn't go to the police. She says that it took place over multiple years and over multiple states, consequently, it's not cut-and-dry. She says she has no evidence of force, but that instead she was forced through manipulation and abuse tactics.
05:20 - She addresses that some people are telling her she should be in therapy. Her response says that she is, that she's been in therapy since she was 12. She told this story to two therapists. She says if it comes down to legal action, that they would testify that she made these claims. This may be in response to the rumour that Stryder wanted to pursue legal action over this, or it may be a warning sign in case he was considering it, or it may be nothing, who knows.
06:15 - The 'big thing' she wanted to do in this video is show dates on the texts. She hasn't used the phone since 2018, hasn't messaged Stryder since October of 2017. She blocked his number after they got into 'a very, very big argument about something that is not relevant to the story'.
06:45 - She says that the other phone has no SIM so it can't send or receive texts and it can't post anything. It's of note that a phone without a SIM can connect to the internet. She has an older phone (though I don't know if there are additional texts on them) that she has no charger for.
07:10 - She says her phone stops her from going further back than May/April of 2017. I imagine this is when she got the phone or last cleared her messages. She probably could contact the phone company to get a transcript of all their texts though. But she doesn't seem the most tech-savvy.
08:00 - She says she doesn't want to involve anyone, including mutual friends. If she screenshotted the images on the phone, she could edit and then post the logs with the names omitted.
08:24 - She shows a text the night after he was threatening to take the pills. Her last message is 'answer me', his response is 'I don't remember last night, but there's no reason I should wake up to a text that says anything about how I shouldn't consider suicide.' he follows with 'what happened?' and she says 'are you fucking kidding me?' followed with 'you don't remember any of it?' Either Scott was blackout wasted or he's bullshitting. This occurred on June 30th 2017, at 1:28PM. Considering the lateness of the response, he could have been drinking. She says that he 'doesn't remember' stuff a lot, she says that he was messaging her this suicidal shit at 4:35AM, so it's possible he was just up late and not drinking too.
10:20 - She's searching through messages to show Stryder merch to prove its him. Sh addresses that she says she's gay in her bio but tweeted that she was bi in 2017. She used to identify as bi, but then realised in early 2018 that she's a lesbian.
11:30 - She wants to address mov, a Discord mod of Scott's. She says he's been speaking for Scott, and he made fun of her pastebin. She says she wasn't just looking for stuff to make Scott look bad, that she was sent the pastebin. Rants about how it makes victims feel about coming out, etc, you know the drill. She says she understands why people have their doubts, that she feels bad for people who had to read that... Then trails off and shows the Stryder controller, proving it's him she's messaging.
13:40 - She says his pastebin was in poor taste, that nothing he could say was anything he was innocent in, and that it was 'gross'. She says gross like 3 times. She says she knows for a fact he was in contact with Scott when he posted it, and hopes for Scott's sake that Scott didn't okay it.
14:45 - She says accusations that she's doing this for clout are silly, that if she wanted clout, she could have simply stayed with him since they had made a video together before and there was demand for more of that content. She says that she has no interest in being an internet celebrity, and only used to stream a bit.
17:00 - She says her other partners since Scott have had to deal with her waking up in the middle of the night in a panic or having to stop during sex. She tells a story of how she got a plastic cast of her face and that she had a panic attack because there was no distraction to keep her from having flashbacks.
18:30 - She says the relationship wasn't all bad, and that although they had some good times, she didn't realise how astronomically bad the bad stuff was until it was pointed out and that she was manipulated into believing that she had a perfect relationship with him. She makes a note that she was 16 when they got together, and that he was 21 when they broke up. She says that they weren't 'lovedrunk teens', that he was 21 years old when they broke up. I mean, sure, but he was 18 when you started dating. She says that he was a straight up adult, so he should have known right from wrong.
20:30 - She shows another text, showing his silver play button.
20:50 - She shows the text where Scott talks about men and women, saying that she cropped the messages to avoid showing names and that censoring names would make people try and find those people. Scott says that some chick 'seeks love without doing her part' which is providing sex, apparently. lol out loud
23:15 - She says she did this to come forward and show she's telling the truth and if someone else has a similar story that they're probably also telling the truth.
The rest is just the typical stuff about being a survivor, reaching out, etc.
She has an incredibly punchable face. It reminds me of Smugglypuff.
I don't think he's innocent, but she's not innocent either. They were both young and in their first relationship. The only thing of note between their situation and the thousands of situations like it from years ago is that they live in a time period where people air their crap online for people to feel sorry for them.
I haven't watched the video yet, but I skimmed through it to parts where I could see she was showing her phone. There's nothing new in them, except confirmation of the dates of the messages (2017) and the fact the messenger was indeed Stryder (we see a custom gamecube controller and his silver play button.) Another thing about this video is the godawful presentation. She shows her phone to the camera, uses her fingers and a lighter to omit names, and uses a free editor that throws a watermark on the screen constantly.
I'll listen to it now, and I'll edit in a summary below the video.
01:57 - Customary 'thanks for the support' and 'I said this because I wanted to give people a space to talk about this'.
03:10 - She addresses why she didn't go to the police. She says that it took place over multiple years and over multiple states, consequently, it's not cut-and-dry. She says she has no evidence of force, but that instead she was forced through manipulation and abuse tactics.
05:20 - She addresses that some people are telling her she should be in therapy. Her response says that she is, that she's been in therapy since she was 12. She told this story to two therapists. She says if it comes down to legal action, that they would testify that she made these claims. This may be in response to the rumour that Stryder wanted to pursue legal action over this, or it may be a warning sign in case he was considering it, or it may be nothing, who knows.
06:15 - The 'big thing' she wanted to do in this video is show dates on the texts. She hasn't used the phone since 2018, hasn't messaged Stryder since October of 2017. She blocked his number after they got into 'a very, very big argument about something that is not relevant to the story'.
06:45 - She says that the other phone has no SIM so it can't send or receive texts and it can't post anything. It's of note that a phone without a SIM can connect to the internet. She has an older phone (though I don't know if there are additional texts on them) that she has no charger for.
07:10 - She says her phone stops her from going further back than May/April of 2017. I imagine this is when she got the phone or last cleared her messages. She probably could contact the phone company to get a transcript of all their texts though. But she doesn't seem the most tech-savvy.
08:00 - She says she doesn't want to involve anyone, including mutual friends. If she screenshotted the images on the phone, she could edit and then post the logs with the names omitted.
08:24 - She shows a text the night after he was threatening to take the pills. Her last message is 'answer me', his response is 'I don't remember last night, but there's no reason I should wake up to a text that says anything about how I shouldn't consider suicide.' he follows with 'what happened?' and she says 'are you fucking kidding me?' followed with 'you don't remember any of it?' Either Scott was blackout wasted or he's bullshitting. This occurred on June 30th 2017, at 1:28PM. Considering the lateness of the response, he could have been drinking. She says that he 'doesn't remember' stuff a lot, she says that he was messaging her this suicidal shit at 4:35AM, so it's possible he was just up late and not drinking too.
10:20 - She's searching through messages to show Stryder merch to prove its him. Sh addresses that she says she's gay in her bio but tweeted that she was bi in 2017. She used to identify as bi, but then realised in early 2018 that she's a lesbian.
11:30 - She wants to address mov, a Discord mod of Scott's. She says he's been speaking for Scott, and he made fun of her pastebin. She says she wasn't just looking for stuff to make Scott look bad, that she was sent the pastebin. Rants about how it makes victims feel about coming out, etc, you know the drill. She says she understands why people have their doubts, that she feels bad for people who had to read that... Then trails off and shows the Stryder controller, proving it's him she's messaging.
13:40 - She says his pastebin was in poor taste, that nothing he could say was anything he was innocent in, and that it was 'gross'. She says gross like 3 times. She says she knows for a fact he was in contact with Scott when he posted it, and hopes for Scott's sake that Scott didn't okay it.
14:45 - She says accusations that she's doing this for clout are silly, that if she wanted clout, she could have simply stayed with him since they had made a video together before and there was demand for more of that content. She says that she has no interest in being an internet celebrity, and only used to stream a bit.
17:00 - She says her other partners since Scott have had to deal with her waking up in the middle of the night in a panic or having to stop during sex. She tells a story of how she got a plastic cast of her face and that she had a panic attack because there was no distraction to keep her from having flashbacks.
18:30 - She says the relationship wasn't all bad, and that although they had some good times, she didn't realise how astronomically bad the bad stuff was until it was pointed out and that she was manipulated into believing that she had a perfect relationship with him. She makes a note that she was 16 when they got together, and that he was 21 when they broke up. She says that they weren't 'lovedrunk teens', that he was 21 years old when they broke up. I mean, sure, but he was 18 when you started dating. She says that he was a straight up adult, so he should have known right from wrong.
20:30 - She shows another text, showing his silver play button.
20:50 - She shows the text where Scott talks about men and women, saying that she cropped the messages to avoid showing names and that censoring names would make people try and find those people. Scott says that some chick 'seeks love without doing her part' which is providing sex, apparently. lol out loud
23:15 - She says she did this to come forward and show she's telling the truth and if someone else has a similar story that they're probably also telling the truth.
The rest is just the typical stuff about being a survivor, reaching out, etc.
You are a god damn hero for summarizing this, what a pain to watch through. In the video, when she's holding the phone up with the lighter at 21:52 there's a few frames where you can see the bottom message, looks like stryder said "I (need?/have?) proof though". It's so blurry and I can't make it out real well, but I'm sure of the last two words. Sounds like a weird thing to say, but I'm probably reaching at this point. Still waiting on that response, Scott.
I've heard people claim that SmoothOperative is a genuine female, but it has such a weird fucking moon face that I'm withholding judgment until I see confirmation.
She is indeed 100% female, and shes actually one of the most genuine, hard working, beautiful (despite your mean comments), and amazing people you'll ever meet inside and out. You'd really be lucky to know someone like her.
She is indeed 100% female, and shes actually one of the most genuine, hard working, beautiful (despite your mean comments), and amazing people you'll ever meet inside and out. You'd really be lucky to know someone like her.
Stryder7x posted his response to Gabri's allegations: Imgur Album (archive)
TL;DR:
Stryder dug out messages from 2017, both handwritten and electronic, where Gabri is ecstatic that their relationship is doing so well
Messages from Gabri explicitly saying that nothing in the relationship was Stryder's fault when they broke up
Her lying about dating a mutual friend of theirs, Jeremey, right after her and Stryder broke up. She said "if he [Jeremy] gets hurt, I'll bring up hell." Jeremey was also trying to spread Gabri's allegations.
A timeline where Gab's made accusations in the past when Stryder's YouTube/Twitch career was on an upswing
I can still buy that Stryder could have had asshole moments. He admits as much and most of us do when we're under the age of 20. Barring some actual receipts from Gab in the form of something actually incriminating or actual charges being filed, the worst thing that happened is that two people who couldn't handle a relationship were in a relationship.
