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This is going to sound like a mad doomer post, and I accept I’m some random anon on the internet.

But I know this affects a few of you, and I feel I need to pass it on. No, I don’t have a copy of sauce to show you, but I have this from a direct source who I trust 100%.

The instruction has gone out quietly from central govt to the NHS trusts/health boards that anyone who is on the list of the ‘shielded’ group is not to be ventilated if they present to hospital.

If you or anyone close to you is in the shielded group, take every fucking precaution you can at least until we seem to be on the downswing of the peak.

I cannot show you the source communications, and I know I sound like a lunatic. This absolutely will not be announced to the public. But those of you who might be affected by this need to know: you have already been triaged out of care.

for the love of God, stay home and stay away from others.

addendum - the shielding guidance and criteria are here. https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...ng-extremely-vulnerable-persons-from-covid-19

So these group of people are on the "Do not treat, Let Die" list?

People falling into this extremely vulnerable group include:

  1. Solid organ transplant recipients.
  2. People with specific cancers:
    • people with cancer who are undergoing active chemotherapy or radical radiotherapy for lung cancer
    • people with cancers of the blood or bone marrow such as leukaemia, lymphoma or myeloma who are at any stage of treatment
    • people having immunotherapy or other continuing antibody treatments for cancer
    • people having other targeted cancer treatments which can affect the immune system, such as protein kinase inhibitors or PARP inhibitors
    • people who have had bone marrow or stem cell transplants in the last 6 months, or who are still taking immunosuppression drugs
  3. People with severe respiratory conditions including all cystic fibrosis, severe asthma and severe COPD.
  4. People with rare diseases and inborn errors of metabolism that significantly increase the risk of infections (such as SCID, homozygous sickle cell).
  5. People on immunosuppression therapies sufficient to significantly increase risk of infection.
  6. Women who are pregnant with significant heart disease, congenital or acquired.
 
Happenins:

People do not understand how anything works:

(archive) rental properties don't qualify for FHA loans, they are still subject to foreclosure.

Popular chain craft store lies about supplying mask kits so they can stay open:
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Sanitas, private healthcare, is starting a message campaign on the healthcare groups to recruit people due to their personnel having of their own volition joined the public against the pandemic. What they're not saying is the reason they need people is so they don't have to push back the ELECTIVE surgeries. They're literally trying to get public healthcare workers to drop everything to go cut dicks and plaster silicone boobs claiming it's life saving.

Meanwhile I've been told unless the situation changes tomorrow I'm back on the first line. It's not even organization they need I'm being sent to tell people to work without PPE, bark orders, and get in fights with directives. I'm a glorfied fucking commisar from 40k at this point. While the private fucking healthcare worries about the economic impact of not being able to fill babies with estrogen fast enough and bitching about muh communism and muh nazionalization the public's devolved into actual soviet era tactics.

But don't worry. As always, in the end. The planet will break before the guard does.
 
Very salry kek news coming in once again!

Turns out the new testing method (quicktests by antibodies) involved materials (the antibodies in question) bought from china. Said materials were of the quality expected from china, and as a result the test is only right 30% of the time. That btw is 30% including false positives AND false negatives. Do please note that having some crazy fuck say "yes" or "no" randomly on a room with no info on the patient would give you a 50% efficiency. That's right! This shit is worse than random chance. On the better news Decathlon, yes that Decathlon, has donated a buncha snorkel masks to try and stop the lack of masks temporarily. Yes, snorkel masks, yes, it works. Kek.
News on this, sadly after the first batch of 300k came in they realized quickly that they were faulty, not before ordering another 5.5 million that are already on the way. This isn't China quality control's fault for once, your country's government couldn't even look into if the company they ordered these from were licensed and were looking to save a buck at the cost of the public. You're actually wrong on your 30% of the time claim, it's that they have a sensitivity of 30% instead of 80%, literally none of the 5.8 million tests work.

China confirms that Spain bought the failed tests from a company without a license
 
Every government has such lists and triage protocol is old and gets applied regularly. You hear horror stories of old people on ventilators being put down and think the government has applied the law of the jungle but the truth is, people beyond any chance of recovering from "ordinary" pneumonia etc. being let go happens all the time. ICU stuff is incredibly invasive and ugly. Modern medicine has a lot of ways to keep a body warm in violent ways for a while, and the truth is it's not always worth it. These lists make sense. A 32 year old mother of two shouldn't have to die because of lack of supplies because a 82 year old alzheimers patient with terminal cancer (not a rare combination at all in a nursing home) is using them instead. As long as there are supplies for both groups, they'll be used for both I am sure.

Also I would recommend to some people who are panicking over this to just look away for a while and just do something else. (if your life isn't going in a way you have to deal with this and you're sitting at home) Things won't happen as fast as that you do need to be on top of things every ten minutes and you can't do anything anyways. It's good for your mental health to take a break, this 24/7 news circle isn't good, especially if you're already sitting somewhere with nothing else to do. I too have read some news now and posted here, now I'm going to watch some old star trek:TNG.
 
News on this, sadly after the first batch of 300k came in they realized quickly that they were faulty, not before ordering another 5.5 million that are already on the way. This isn't China quality control's fault for once, your country's government couldn't even look into if the company they ordered these from were licensed and were looking to save a buck at the cost of the public. You're actually wrong on your 30% of the time claim, it's that they have a sensitivity of 30% instead of 80%, literally none of the 5.8 million tests work.

China confirms that Spain bought the failed tests from a company without a license

Before the tests were checked they had a licence. Afterwards we were always at war with Eurasia. Question is if the chinks are trying to save face or if this is a deliberate ploy because our government didn't break like the french.
 
Styx points of that Trump's approval rating is up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d8tHP2vPU8

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Even CNN admit it


https://web.archive.org/web/2020032...nald-trump-gallup-approval-polling/index.html

It seems like the Democrats' dumb response to the pandemic has benefited Trump just like the Dems dumb response to most things recently has benefited Trump. Even if, like me, you hate the Democrats don't crow too much about this. It's not healthy for a country with first past the post and hence only two viable parties at most (Archive) to have one of those parties be non-viable. In the long run that will cause the other party to deteriorate due to a lack of competition and the Republican party has always been pretty crappy at the best of times.

Most people see President Trump is putting the American people first and doing his best. Don't believe Obama would have pushed a stimulus package at all. Trump has pushed it as hard as possible. He's also called out the Chinese on this - well deserved. As usual, President Trump says what a lot of people think.

Biden can barely keep from drooling all over himself.
 
This is going to sound like a mad doomer post, and I accept I’m some random anon on the internet.

But I know this affects a few of you, and I feel I need to pass it on. No, I don’t have a copy of sauce to show you, but I have this from a direct source who I trust 100%.

The instruction has gone out quietly from central govt to the NHS trusts/health boards that anyone who is on the list of the ‘shielded’ group is not to be ventilated if they present to hospital.

If you or anyone close to you is in the shielded group, take every fucking precaution you can at least until we seem to be on the downswing of the peak.

I cannot show you the source communications, and I know I sound like a lunatic. This absolutely will not be announced to the public. But those of you who might be affected by this need to know: you have already been triaged out of care.

for the love of God, stay home and stay away from others.

addendum - the shielding guidance and criteria are here. https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...ng-extremely-vulnerable-persons-from-covid-19
You know its one thing saying to yourself you are expendable, its a whole other thing to see written in print by the very people who swore oaths to protect you and do no harm
 
Every government has such lists and triage protocol is old and gets applied regularly. You hear horror stories of old people on ventilators being put down and think the government has applied the law of the jungle but the truth is, people beyond any chance of recovering from "ordinary" pneumonia etc. being let go happens all the time. ICU stuff is incredibly invasive and ugly. Modern medicine has a lot of ways to keep a body warm in violent ways for a while, and the truth is it's not always worth it. These lists make sense. A 32 year old mother of two shouldn't have to die because of lack of supplies because a 82 year old alzheimers patient with terminal cancer (not a rare combination at all in a nursing home) is using them instead. As long as there are supplies for both groups, they'll be used for both I am sure.

Also I would recommend to some people who are panicking over this to just look away for a while and just do something else. (if your life isn't going in a way you have to deal with this and you're sitting at home) Things won't happen as fast as that you do need to be on top of things every ten minutes and you can't do anything anyways. It's good for your mental health to take a break, this 24/7 news circle isn't good, especially if you're already sitting somewhere with nothing else to do. I too have read some news now and posted here, now I'm going to watch some old star trek:TNG.

Agree. Also keep in mind that over 50,000 Americans will die from heart problems this month, and about another 50,000 from cancer this month - and every month.

 
Before the tests were checked they had a licence. Afterwards we were always at war with Eurasia. Question is if the chinks are trying to save face or if this is a deliberate ploy because our government didn't break like the french.

I'm confused here. Espana bought the tests from the company that claimed they had a license for the tests and were certified. I take it the company had a small batch of tests that showed they were capable of using?

Then when the tests got here in bulk the tests were shown to be shit and now the Chinese are saying the company in question (What is the company?) didn't have a license to make the tests in the first place?

Since when does China give a fuckall about licensing?
 
I had no idea who that asian person was until you told me it was Madonna. Amazing how all that money for plastic surgery and you end up looking like the person who caused the plague.

I say one thing for her - she doesn't look like she's 61.

You know its one thing saying to yourself you are expendable, its a whole other thing to see written in print by the very people who swore oaths to protect you and do no harm

Well we're all individually expendable and triaging is inevitable in a crisis, but it's creepy when you have a health service that everyone is forced to fund and for people is the only choice deciding not to treat a chunk of the population.

If things get really bad it wouldn't surprise me if the NHS decided that people with obvious preexisting health issues, aka fatties and smokers, don't get a vent either.

Dr. John Campbell has a video out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sy3gtORANw

Here's the audio as an mp3 direct upload
 

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so apparently there's this total chad french med professor/microbiologist/infectious-disease-man named didier raoult (if anyone wants to translate some of his tweets de la francais for extra info) who has been talking about chloroquine/azithromycin combination, but has yet to really post a study about it. he has done at least 1 interview on youtube about his experiences treating his patients with respiratory disease (english subs):


i don't know if this is worthy of archival or not, if someone wants to then go ahead

might be interesting for you medfags out there.
 
We've been left stranded and alone and every time an "ally" ship comes its to steal more of our gear.
Blood Ravens ARGH!

We've literally got NO tests and NO masks.
well basic masks and faceshields are easy to make.
for the tests, well you need alot of primer, but those shouldnt be a big problem somebody in charge just have to call the company.
I doubt the police took the Thermos and the chemicals to prep the RNA.


I'm confused here. Espana bought the tests from the company that claimed they had a license for the tests and were certified. I take it the company had a small batch of tests that showed they were capable of using?
I realy dont get why everybody is trying to buy test kits. germany has a test script and sends out the parts that a special for corona.
 
so apparently there's this total chad french med professor/microbiologist/infectious-disease-man named didier raoult (if anyone wants to translate some of his tweets de la francais for extra info) who has been talking about chloroquine/azithromycin combination, but has yet to really post a study about it. he has done at least 1 interview on youtube about his experiences treating his patients with respiratory disease (english subs):


i don't know if this is worthy of archival or not, if someone wants to then go ahead

might be interesting for you medfags out there.
Haven’t watched the video but he is old school amd well respected. He’s also used the plaquenil /doxycycline combo before on the bacteria that cause whipples disease. Think he was the guy who discovered the giant viruses as well?
 
Are you wondering why the US has a mask shortage?
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news report: 45

that's my ground report from shift.

knowing epidemiology; stop defending trump. he fucked up. own it.

yes biden is a drooling moron.

You have no idea how bad it can really get. Numbers are late all the time. Literally all countries were late in reporting. It's just normal bureaucracy shit.

I'm confused here. Espana bought the tests from the company that claimed they had a license for the tests and were certified. I take it the company had a small batch of tests that showed they were capable of using?

Then when the tests got here in bulk the tests were shown to be shit and now the Chinese are saying the company in question (What is the company?) didn't have a license to make the tests in the first place?

Since when does China give a fuckall about licensing?

Happened all the time in the past. Chinese licences disappear a lot. Difference is now it's a government they fucked over instead of a lab, and it's their embassy having to claim it instead of the business.
 
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