2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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IMO, it could go either way depending on how Trump handles the whole coronavirus issue in the following weeks. Trump's path to reelection could literally become a gold-plated moving walkway if normalcy is quickly restored and the death count kept relatively low, or it might become considerably bumpier if things last too long. I think he should have shut up about the stock market long ago, since the stock market =/= the economy.

Twitter is a poor indicator of the general mood of ultranormie society (only 20% of all adults are on Twitter), and legacy media still has an oversized influence, unfortunately.

Biden's townhalls are unconvincing, but his greatest virtue is that he offers a return to a boring Obama-era 'Dignified Presidentialness'. Basically promising a respite from all the craziness of the last four years. Legacy media will cover for him, but Trump can make his largest impact by debates and using his accumulated warchest in Ad/GOTV drives (Bloomberg will likely cover for Biden).

Biden's presidency will likely be driven from the back seat by the State Department and the VP, and he's likely China's preferred candidate (since they were in cahoots with the Obama presidency).

Bernie can do his best by staying on like a tick and making the Democrats waste time settling the candidacy.

Pretty much this. Trumps first term has been pretty much easy mode. Historical levels of international stability, good economic growth world wide, and what few landmines were in his way he either studiously refused to even take up or in the case of the Iranian general managed to pull off a double backflip over. Corona-chan is the first real test of his Presidency, and its a doozy. This is the kind of crisis that can break ANY Presidency. referring to it as a war time situation is pretty accurate tbqh. If he manages to pull a hat trick on this the Democrats won't win, not even if they manage to reanimate the corspse of JFK and put Zombie Hoover in charge of his opposition research. If he doesn't pull it off, well we are all fucked anyway. The Stakes are pretty much that high. Its been a long time since we've had a crisis where the buy in is literally the future of the country, but this one is it I fear.
 
With Biden, everyone really has to pay attenton to who he picks as his running mate. Right now, I can actually see that person being Andrew Cuomo or Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton is simply detestable among most voters (and she's a loser-- so there's bad optics on that alone), and Andrew Cuomo would get obliterated by the Trump campaign. The health industry in New York has taken hit after hit for years under his governing. He had the chance 5 years ago to stock up the hospitals with ventilators, and he didn't do it, for starters. You have Pence say that on the debate stage, and Cuomo is fucking done-zo.

And then there's Bernie. Well, if Bernie really IS staying in it to try to win it, then Trump doesn't have to do much to obliterate him. Bernie wasn't even there to vote on the COVID-19 relief bill a few days ago. The man is a snake oil salesman, and he can't even beat a flat-out senile Joe Biden. What chance does he have against Trump? Haha.

The interesting thing is that Biden has walked himself into a corner by declaring that his VP would be a female, especially in time when none of the current VP candidates are all that great. I also found it interesting that the VP announcement essentially was a moment when you could clearly differentiate the differences between the Liberals and the Progressives- the Liberals clapping like seals about female representation, while the Progressives were pointing out that Sarah Palin was a VP choice too.

Bernie likely can't win, but I think he should at least make a stand for himself and his movement. IMO, to the Progressive movement, Biden presidency is probably going to be 'worse' than a Trump presidency in that the US's structural issues will be swept under the carpet of superficial 'niceness and compassionate government' and remain unaddressed.

If he doesn't pull it off, well we are all fucked anyway. The Stakes are pretty much that high. Its been a long time since we've had a crisis where the buy in is literally the future of the country, but this one is it I fear.

My concerns with a Biden/Dem Congress win are that the Democrats are:
1.) Looking for revenge in the pettiest manner possible;
2.) Looking to permanently cement their gains to create structural imbalances favoring Democrats, (i.e. ballot harvesting, mass amnesty, governing via judiciary, no voter ID, etc) - the stuff that permanently turned California Blue and turned Democrat-run cities into mini-fiefdoms;
3.) The US gets run via bureaucracy and consultants, resulting in less accountability, more make-work rules, less privacy, & more rigid, regulatory-captured institutions that can't respond to crises (i.e. the FDA)
4.) That the US will concede its battle against Chi-com authoritarian corporatism. Even if the US is flawed in practise, its founding ideals are 100% preferable to whatever vision China has for the world (likely a less free world rotating around the Middle Kingdom).
5.) The US gets embroiled in a permanent culture war and institutionalized equity. There will no longer be an 'American' identity- you instead get a whole bunch of labels designed to atomize your identity.

The next four years are fundamentally crucial in ensuring that the US gets away from the edge- it almost went over in 2016.
 
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Did we miss this?

Biden is being MeToo'd.

How do you archive Soundcloud?


Edit: Apparently, Time's Up, which is a SJW MeToo enforcement org, covered for Biden and refused to work with the woman. For those following Weeb Wars, Time's Up was helping one of the harpies who falsely accused Vic.

The BernieBros smell blood in the water.
I don't think you need to worry about Katie deleting the interview.

The neoliberal shills are pretty desperate to try and attack Biden's victim.

Some San Fran gook who goes by the name of 'Joanne Bryant' tried to claim that his victim was some crazy bitch who went on Dr. Phil to claim she was Putin's mistress.

There is no resemblance. What gives? Do all Americans look the same to this slanty-eyed Viet?
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She later admitted this was an outright lie but is still denying the fact that Joe Biden is a rapist.
 
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I don't think you need to worry about Katie deleting the interview.

The neoliberal shills are pretty desperate to try and attack Biden's victim.

Some gook who works for State Farm in California and goes by the name of 'Joanne Bryant' (1975-01-07) tried to claim that his victim was some crazy bitch who went on Dr. Phil to claim she was Putin's mistress.

There is no resemblance. What gives? Do all Americans look the same to this slanty-eyed Viet?
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She later admitted this was an outright lie but is still denying the fact that Joe Biden is a rapist.
She made up an outlandish lie for attention? To be fair her accusation isn't outlandish and Biden is a documented creeper.
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She made up an outlandish lie for attention? To be fair her accusation isn't outlandish and Biden is a documented creeper.
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To clarify things- lying VC gook Joanne Bryant made up this lie about Joe Biden's rape victim Tara Reade, and has since been forced to retract it. Pity her parents didn't catch more Agent Orange.
 
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To clarify things- lying VC gook Joanne Bryant made up this lie about Joe Biden's rape victim Tara Reade. Pity her parents didn't catch more Agent Orange.
Ahh, I see. I didn't click on the link and misunderstood who the she was. It sort of fit because she had a Russian friend who told her about Russia and she wrote about it quite a bit. I thought she turned into a Russiaboo.
 

Biden's trying to declare himself victor and weasel out of any further debates with Sanders.

Small wonder, too, since he's somehow gotten even less coherent.
Biden's also stopped his live streamed shadow press briefings after a week of failure and fuckups
His "happy hour" live stream round table peaked at 2,800 viewers... They also turned off live chat, but forgot the comments which are eating him alive
http://archive.is/HFNQF (Youtube comment archive)
 





 
Cuomo wonders if coronavirus quarantine may have backfired in some cases (archive)

Cuomo is second guessing himself publically on his entire strategy on combating the Coronavirus. Not a good thing to do considering New York is currently in the midst of this "war with an invisible enemy." Way to bring morale down with the people who are struggling in NY at this moment.

Yeah. Stick a fucking fork in this guy if he's being propped up as some Democrat godsend opponent against Trump (whether it be as Biden's running mate or as the nominee himself).
 
Where did all this stuff about Cuomo as nominee come from anyway? Is it just because he has a D in front of his name and can still string together coherent sentences while not simultaneously being a communist?

Because a few idiots suddenly thought : "Hey this guy is out there, and he seems to be doing a decent job handling the Corona virus in his state. Maybe we ought to look to him if something should happen to Joe." It's just that stupid.
 
Where did all this stuff about Cuomo as nominee come from anyway? Is it just because he has a D in front of his name and can still string together coherent sentences while not simultaneously being a communist?

The left has realized that Biden is... a problem. But they sure as hell ain't gonna let Bernie have it. So they're thinking forward to how they're gonna get out of this mess.
 
The left has realized that Biden is... a problem. But they sure as hell ain't gonna let Bernie have it. So they're thinking forward to how they're gonna get out of this mess.
It's a bit late for them to be switching candidates now, they need at least some of the left-wing base to vote for them in order to even have a hypothetical chance of beating Trump and that's going to be hard enough to accomplish with Biden for all sorts of reasons, it will be practically impossible if they go with Cuomo because he never even went through the primary. I can practically hear the "Selected, not elected!" chants now.
 
Guys, I think your kind of off-track here. The election isn't going to be about Biden, or if he kneels over, any of the Democrats. It's going to be about Trump and his performance as president. Right now, it seems like he could, given the rise in approval ratings. But that comes with caveats - first, the state governors have seen far larger increases, past presidents facing similar national disasters have seen larger increases (e.g. Carter in the first phase of the Iran hostiage crisis, Bush on Sept. 11th) and contemporary national leaders have seen the same larger increases*. My hypothesis is that while he is experiencing a bit of the "rally round the leader" effect, it doesn't cancel out how much liberals/leftists hate him.

So, I think that the election will boil down to this question: can the country return to some sense of normal by May the 1st? I think May is going to be absolutely limit that any of the stay-in-place/shelter order can be psychologically or economically maintained.

If it can, then he'll be able to crow on his "victory" over the virus and his detractors in the Democratic Party and the media. He can craft a campaign message on getting the country back on it feet, securing the borders and getting industry back home. While I think he has mismanaged the response, especially early on, pretty much everybody has done the same; I think he do what the CCP has done and get the relevant people to forget that inital fuckups. If so, then I think Trump had good chances to beat the Dem.

However, if one or multiple states become American Hubeis or Lombardys then I suspect that Trump and the GOP is absolutely fucked. No matter of spin can hidw the overflowing hospitals and funeral homes. It's going to be Katrina multiple times over and even the Republican's Senate majority could be in trouble.

Here's the thing - while I hope for the former to happen, the latter is become more and more likely. I doubt that the country can meet Trump's vague goal of returning to normal by Easter, and I think any moves to fill up pews and open businesses up again will only trigger new outbreaks that will require further lockdowns that will continue to the hurt the economy and require massive bailouts to repair that the GOP is desperate to avoid. Let's hope it doesn't come to that.

* EDIT: Found this article on leader ratings, and this isn't quite true. Macron in France and ALMO in Mexico have lower coronavirus approvals, with Trudeau following. The Premier of Quebec, meanwhile has a 94% positive rating.
 
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The election isn't going to be about Biden, or if he kneels over, any of the Democrats. It's going to be about Trump and his performance as president.
Nah, this election will not be a referendum on Trump. This election will be a referendum on the Democrats. It will be a referendum on their embrace of identity politics, politcal correctness, men in dresses calling themselves women, open borders, censorship, slavery reparations, antisemitism, smug condescension of everyday people, wokeness, perpetual victimhood, the media and all the other crap that comes along with them.

If people side with the President, despite his many flaws and any apprehensions they may have about him, then that is a de facto referendum on the Dems, not Trump.

However, if one or multiple states become American Hubeis or Lombardys then I suspect that Trump and the GOP is absolutely fucked.
The hot spots are mostly confined to New York, California and Washington. If you think people in Nebraska or Tennessee or Wyoming are gonna punish Trump because the people who called them deplorables are dying from Chinese Coronavirus.... then I don't know what to tell you.
 
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