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Agreement is finally in Number 10's grasp.

The text that's taken months of officials' blood, sweat and tears has been agreed, at least at a technical level.

Now a paper's being drafted to present to the Cabinet tomorrow ready for the government's hoped-for next step - political approval from Theresa May's team, even though many of them have deep reservations.

Remember in the last 24 hours some of them have been warning privately that what's on the table is just not acceptable, and will never get through Parliament. Some even believe the prime minister ought to walk away.

But the government machine is now cranking into action. With a text ready, their long-planned rollout can begin.
The BBC's chief political correspondent Vicki Young said some ministers had "deep concerns" about the shape of the likely agreement, which critics say could leave the UK trapped in a customs agreement with the EU.

She said they would have to decide whether they could support it, and if not, whether to resign from cabinet.

Leading Brexiteers have already condemned the draft agreement, Boris Johnson saying it would see the UK remain in the customs union and "large parts" of the single market.

He told the BBC it was "utterly unacceptable to anyone who believes in democracy". "Am I going to vote against it. The answer is yes," he added.

And Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said "given the shambolic nature of the negotiations, this is unlikely to be the good deal for the country".

'Failure to deliver'
Both the UK and EU want to schedule a special summit of European leaders at the end of November to sign off the reportedly 500 page withdrawal deal and the much shorter outline declaration of their future relationship.

Brussels has insisted it would only agree to put the wheels in motion for the summit if agreement can be reached on the issue of the Irish border.

Ambassadors from the remaining 27 EU states will meet in Brussels on Wednesday.

If a deal is agreed with the EU, Mrs May then needs to persuade her party - and the rest of Parliament - to support it in a key Commons vote.

Conservative Brexiteer Jacob Rees-Mogg said if details of the text reported by Irish broadcaster RTE were true, the UK would become a "vassal state" with Northern Ireland "being ruled from Dublin".

Such an agreement "failed to deliver on Brexit" and the cabinet should reject it, he told the BBC.

"I think what we know of this deal is deeply unsatisfactory," he said. "There seems to be growing opposition to these very poor proposals."

Meanwhile, following pressure from all sides of the Commons, ministers have agreed to provide MPs with a legal assessment of the implications for the UK of the Irish backstop and other controversial aspects of any deal.

Cabinet Office minister David Lidington said Attorney General Geoffrey Cox would make a statement to MPs and take questions ahead of the final vote on any Brexit deal.

MPs, he said, would get to see "a full reasoned position statement laying out the government's both political and also legal position on the proposed withdrawal agreement".

The Democratic Unionists' Westminster leader Nigel Dodds said he was pleased Parliament had "asserted its will" as it was imperative that all parties to the deal were clear in what way and for how long it would "legally bind" the UK.

Chequers minus it is. Whatever happened to no deal being better than a bad deal.

We should have been far more aggressive in negotiations with Brussels. They all but stated immediately after the referendum that they were going to bumrape us for having the temerity to leave, so we should have told them that unless and until they got serious, we'd basically go full on tax haven mode and steal all their big companies - and funnel money and support to Eurosceptics in Italy, Spain, Greece, Poland, and Hungary.
 
When is he finally stepping down as leader? I can't wait to never hear from him again.

I think leadership elections were supposed to have started by now but Kung Flu got in the way. As for Kung Flu now that Boris Johnson has it I think it’s safe to assume the rest of the cabinet will be coming down with Chinese death plague as well.
 
Jeremy Corbyn desperately tries to score political points during a crisis after the nation told him to get fucked


"We won the argument and a rampant, apolitical virus proves it"

Truly corona-chan is our punishment for having turned from the true god Corbyn. REPENT REPENT.

A week from now supposedly. He's already threatened to bounce and squeak in the backbenches.

I thought he was angling for a position in the shadow cabinet?

I think leadership elections were supposed to have started by now but Kung Flu got in the way. As for Kung Flu now that Boris Johnson has it I think it’s safe to assume the rest of the cabinet will be coming down with Chinese death plague as well.

It's only a matter of time until people are cheering on the virus to completely wipe out the tory party.
 
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I stuck my head over that parapet. Someone twatted that he should cough at Katie Hopkins and now they're all reliving the old outrage about things she's said.

K I N D E R G E N T L E R P O L I T I C S
Will these people ever wake up and realize how evil what they're saying actually is? I doubt it, but hopefully these people will get some sort of social repercussions from it.
 
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How long until extinction rebellion decides to shut down a car factory making ventilators, because longer quarantines mean less CO2 emissions?
 
Funnily enough, they have metastasized into "Pause the System" which is pretty much pushing for just that.

“Hey guiz! People obviously don’t hate us enough so I have this really crazy idea, now some of you will die but that’s a sacrifice i’m willing to make. “

Let’s be honest if they tried that on a factory it wouldn’t be police gearing up for a riot so much as rescue mission. I could genuinely see factory workers beating the idiots to death if they tried.
 
So, let's chat political. I've largely been over in the Happenings thread reporting the grim news of our rising death toll and blessing of Coronachan.

Via Geeds as always, Number Cruncher has published a poll for Bloomberg.

Tories 54%. The highest polling for a Tory Government. Ever. This Poll, even if rogue, is higher than even Baroness Thatcher at the height of her power. Largely seems to be a bounce up on people backing the PM and the government's steady introduction of measures instead of being draconian and Orwellian off of the bat. The fact they've allowed the Chief Scientific Adviser of SAGE and the Chief medical officer, reassuring looking and sounding professionals in their fields to handle a lot of the questioning certainly seems to be working.

Labour slumps to 28% as they continue to be irrelevent nobodies with complete cunts like Ian Lavery trying to score political points during the time of unprecedented national crisis. Sir Keir Stammer, the frontrunner has been nowhere to be fucking seen and Corbyn has continued to be the sore, shitty little loser of a man he's always been. His farewell interview of trying to claim credit for anything other than his abject failure is utterly pathetic, and it's a shame to see the Labour Party, once home to people like Atlee, Bevin, Heely and Smith brought so low and so utterly asinine and useless.

Nobody gives a fuck about the rest.

The main thing seems to be the rise of and making of Rishi Sunak during all of this. Quite the person to know how to at least appear competent, tell the stock market to sod off, and help the working man as opposed to the "Hahaha, money printer goes brrrrr" the US tried to take that managed to achieve nothing.

I'd certainly vote for the jug eared sensible git anyway.
 
Rishi Sunak is not exactly a self made man, the most fortunate of fortunate sons with the richest or one of the richest men in India as Dad, but it can mean a confidence needed in this time.
 
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Corbyn has continued to be the sore, shitty little loser of a man he's always been.

B-but he won the argument!

The best thing I've seen on this comes from James Ivens, a personal lolcow of mine who is an ideologue for some far-left groupuscule in London. (And is a graduate of Oxford University, because you can't be that Marxist without being a scion of privilege to begin with.)

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The mind-bending stupidity of this take has to be seen to be believed. It's giving all the money saved from austerity to prop up failing businesses in a national emergency and thus save jobs. Yet, THe MoNeY WAs aLwaYS ThERe.
 
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Rishi Sunak is not exactly a self made man, the most fortunate of fortunate sons with the richest or one of the richest men in India as Dad, but it can mean a confidence needed in this time.

Boris "DePieffel" Johnson is hardly a self made man either. Despite being toffiest of toffs he's currently enjoying a net positive approval rating of +47.

I don't really give a shit about the background of a minister or person in charge. Only if they're competent. Double points for being competent in a time of significant national crisis.

It could be very easy for Sunak to fall apart during such an unprecedented time.

Bit like how Jeremy Hunt's mind apparently did.
 
No idea if this falls under brit-politics or Corona, but damn if these cops aren't incredible retarded as usual:

At least they are getting roasted harder than bacon in a pan.
 
No idea if this falls under brit-politics or Corona, but damn if these cops aren't incredible exceptional as usual:

At least they are getting roasted harder than bacon in a pan.

It'd be nice if reform was enacted on the whole police and the NCA given actual officers and teeth in the UK after all of this.

I doubt it. This and Derbyshire's hilarious drone unit stupidity really shakes your faith in the systems looking after us.
 
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