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A reporter was asking Cuomo what Trump meant by saying that they'd "Found ventilators in a storage facility." and Cuomo said that information was "Incorrect and grossly uninformed." After that, he goes on to clarify that the ventilators are in stockpile, because the hospitals don't need them yet. Now... I'm not a fancy wordsmith and all, but what exactly is the difference between a storage and a stockpile?

You know, the easiest answer might be that Cuomo was lying this entire time.

The ass had someone from his office call and complain to Tucker Carlsons show about him reporting on it last night.
 
I don't believe I've seen it on the farms yet, but I will stand corrected if someone else did indeed post it first.

God, just shut up already, you dumb cunt. The democrats really do seem to have given up completely on winning elections for the next decade if this is the kind of shit they get up to in calm circumstances.

Though I'm looking forward to seeing Congress devolve into fistfights like they once did in this country long ago. Someone should have cold-cocked her and dragged her out of the chamber to wake up in a hallway half an hour later wondering what day it is and where the headache came from.
 

> eating disease infested animals
> casual animal torture
> increasing animal extinction
> buh mah cultural diversity!!!


The nerve of some people.

What is the difficulty in eating fish like a normal person? There's plenty of fish in China and the possible dose of mercury is way less dangerous for humans than bat flu.

Not a vegan (love me some burgers lol) but I am always uncomfortable eating beef/poutry. Honestly, the only animal that really seems like it should be eaten is fish —regular fish. None of that poison fish nonsense.

Add on that eggs and melk and there won't be any reason for anyone to bother eating exotic stuff that can literally kill you.

Soy is a decent source of protein (inb4 soyboy) too. Also, plentiful in China.

Other cheap sources of protein: beans and mushrooms. Again, plentiful in China.

Don't activist types care about environmental justice or is that only important when they criticize the first world?

In non-food related news: my relative [confirmed wuflu case in relative's workplace and said relative also experienced all symptoms of wuflu] in frogland had shortness of breath and called frogland version of 911.

Relative is young, without preexisting conditions, has healthy BMI, exercises regularly, etc.

Relative was taken to...somewhere (not sure if it was a hospital) and tested for two different types of flu viruses. If both tests results are negative then relative will finally be officially tested for wuflu.

Frogland is being extremely stingy with testing.
 
I can almost guarantee they won't and they'll cite the "seasonal" nature of the China Aids. Once they have power they won't want to let go of it easily.
Then they will have to be forced to give up that power.in minecraft, plz no partyvan FBI Tyranny happens in increments and it must be stopped before it can spread too far and too wide.
 
Some new news from Iran:
Holy shit, Iran, what are you doing? Nearly 300 fucking people dead due to methanol poisoning...
Who the fuck drinks methanol? That being lethally toxic is literally one of the first things they tell you in any gen chem course. Though I rather doubt Iran has the ethanol on hand to treat it considering their laws.
 
God, just shut up already, you dumb cunt. The democrats really do seem to have given up completely on winning elections for the next decade if this is the kind of shit they get up to in calm circumstances.

It's not just the Democrats. The left in the West has this odd idea that in order to prove you're virtuous you need to be angry about bad things. It's a completely pernicious notion that leads to outbursts like this that people who are outside of the left regard as being ridiculous. Inside the left's bubble, however, it's seen as being genuine and caring. You can see it in the UK. You can see it in Sweden where Greta Thunberg would sperg out at stuff and be laughed at by most people but regarded as a sort of child saint by left-wing types because her anger was a sign of virtue. The fundamental problem is that it alienates people who are on the fence about an issue much more than a calm and measured argument would.

Reason TV had an interesting discussion about Coronavirus, albeit with a dumb clickbait title

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCRRio17HQY

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Story about the Czech Republic that got into the news last week has some more details come out. Just gonna plug them into a quote.




Sounds a lot like the 'aid' China is doing for Europe is fake, in the sense that it isn't really meant for Europeans, but rather for the Chinese in Europe and/or those connected to those connected to the Chinese party. Possibly a portion even done to just help with selling emergency goods for inflated prices in a typical corrupt Chinese fashion, saying that the goods are 'aid' when really they're just hoping to sell the goods at exaggerated prices while being allowed to bring in the goods without any sort of taxes because it was initially labeled as aid (an explanation for saying the goods were stolen).

Also it's probably worth noting the Chinese Red Cross is not affiliated with the international organization.

Edit: As a sidenote, China is banning people on its social media (Weibo) for supporting the US.

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The Chinese Red Cross has been well-known for being corrupt for more than a decade. They re-sell donations for money on the black market all the time. Hell, the Wuhan authorities were caught doing this during the pandemic lockdown. It took public outrage and a small private company intervening to deliver the masks to actual hospitals that needed them.

Despite the propaganda, the CCP is not a well-coordinated, unified entity, It's entirely possible the diplomats intended the donations to be real, and the middlemen got money-signs in their eyes (and worms in their heart).
 
Let's focus -- your underlying argument seems to be that there may be many unknown cases due to lack of data/testing. Countries performing more tests still have a low positive rate, even in countries only performing symptomatic or trace testing. Countries performing random/sentinel testing have even lower positive rates than that. South Korea is doing both and they're only testing 2% positive. Yes, the lack of data sucks, but the data we do have does not support anything you're saying.
So the lack of data somehow supports your point of "most people are not infected, millions will soon die as the disease spreads"? You got that from 0.1% of the population being tested over 3 months?

The testing does, in part, support my theory, based on how diseases spread, for coronavirus to have touched so many parts of a country as large as the US, it must have a large number of background cases. Again, short of being able to teleport, this disease will have infected many along the way due to its infectiousness. One county reports two people are diagnosed with Corona. Both returned two weeks ago from international travel, and self quarantined immediately. Didnt leave their house for 2 weeks. Not two days after these two were diagnosed, 6 other people int he county were diagnosed. None had international travel, none had left the county for the past month. So how did they get it?

Unless the disease teleported from a couple in quarantine to the other side of the county, it must have passed through the community. The more of these community cases pop up, the more evidence there is that Coronavirus has achieved widespread community spread. The testing data supports your theory just as much as it does mine. The difference is my theory is also supported by pre existing knowledge the medical community has gathered from decades of studying coronaviruses, flus, and other infectious diseases.

This virus cannot travel 50-100 miles, strike a handful of people, then travel another 50-100 miles to another county and strike more random people, without also infecting the local community. If these cases appear, the most logical method would be a chain of transmission from one person to another from town to town, county to county. In the absence of testing, we can look at the behavior of similar diseases to establish an educational guess of how far this disease has spread. You are free to disagree, but if you insist on coronavirus somehow barely infecting anybody, then how do you explain it spreading so sporadically, and how can we justify further quarantine if this type of insanely high demand is going to collapse the medical system anyway, and will continue for some time? Why bother quarantining then?

I refuse to believe that Coronavirus can randomly skip through a population when we know how infectious it is until someone posts proof that it can infect people without infecting its surroundings consistently. The best evidence supporting that is south korean testing, which equates to testing 0.25% of the country's population per month, a pathetic sample size. And that is the BEST weve got. Given the disease can be transmitted weeks before symptoms appear, it can survive on hard surfaces, is aerolized, is airborne, can be transmitted by fecal matter, ece, we can assume anyone who has touched a surface or been near any active patient up to 2 weeks before symptoms presented as exposed to infection. That is a LOT of people. I just cant buy that a disease more infectious then the flu and seemingly survives better then almost any other virus is being this picky on the number of infections, that goes against all infectious disease logic.
 
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Though I'm looking forward to seeing Congress devolve into fistfights like they once did in this country long ago. Someone should have cold-cocked her and dragged her out of the chamber to wake up in a hallway half an hour later wondering what day it is and where the headache came from.

If congress would go back to things like the caning of Charles Sumner, C-Span would be positively epic.
 
We could argue than the difference between otterly and me is one of theory vs practice. I am used to thinking of viri in the abstract, clasification way. But some of those groups are ginormous and make up well over 90% of what we see in the west, whereas most of those groups either don't even afect humans or are tropical superviri, they don't matter.

So. I'm used to viri that have a preferred target due to the proteins they attack but who still transmit through media a lot more easily, ALL media
Do you have a theory on why there hasn't been a vaccine to any coronavirus before this?
Do they mutate more easily than other types or has there never been one bad enough to spend money on research?
 
Puppeteer claims "Wuhan virus" Perak cloth bag show was reportedly terminated independently by Taiwan
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The Perak puppet show has recently been caught in the storm of Chinese netizens reporting Taiwan independence. The picture is the photo of this magazine.
The Perak puppet show has recently been caught in the storm of Chinese netizens reporting Taiwan independence. The picture is the photo of this magazine.

Ding Zhenqing (Uncle Cat), a national treasure-level puppet master of the Perak puppet show, mentioned "Wuhan virus" in a Facebook post in February this year. The screenshot was reported by Chinese netizens to report Taiwan independence, causing a stir. .
"Taiwan independence" incidents one by one

According to "New Head Shell" and "Lianhe Bao", the puppet teacher Ding Zhenqing posted on Facebook early in the year: "Every time I see a like face friend, the name" Crown "will think of" New Crown Virus "," still It ’s called "Wuhan virus", and was screened by Chinese netizens to report "Taiwan independence."

Its parent company, Perak International Multimedia Co., Ltd., also suffered a bottom out. In the past, company conference briefings and chairman Huang Qianghua mentioned in an interview that "Taiwan itself is a country of diversified integration" and was also reported in screenshots.

In addition, when DJ Little Di, who has been the host of "Super Thunder" for 18 years, recently hosted Taiwan and Singapore as epidemic prevention "countries", they were also regarded as Taiwan independence speech by Chinese netizens. Passed crazy.
Fan second cutting agency terminates cooperation

A series of incidents caused an uproar. The Perak puppet show was launched by a fan of mainland China. The Weibo "Snow Puffing Sugar Office" immediately issued a statement saying that it "resolutely safeguards the territorial sovereignty of the motherland and cannot be divided." Postponed or cancelled, follow up "depending on the official statement and treatment of Perak."

Not only that, the Chinese game company "Folded Paper Games" issued a statement on the official Weibo game of its "Sparkling Warmth" game, saying that "Folded Paper Games, as a Chinese company, we always adhere to the" One China "principle and resolutely oppose splitting the two sides of the strait. , Resolutely safeguard the territorial integrity of the country, "therefore announced the termination of cooperation with the Perak puppet show.
Weibo apologizes and hopes to stop bleeding

In the face of the continuation of the storm, the parties involved in the storm publicly apologized. The puppet teacher Ding Zhenqing deleted the Facebook post and apologized via Weibo. The host "DJ Xiaodi" stated on his personal Facebook that "my improper remarks hurt Many of my friends who have always loved the Perak puppet show have also hurt the feelings of compatriots on both sides of the Taiwan Straits that are in the epidemic. "" We are compatriots of the same origin and family. In the meantime, I will also deeply reflect on my mistakes. I have failed. Everyone's support along the way, apologize again, I'm sorry, "and resigned to be responsible.

Perak ’s official Weibo post publicly apologized yesterday (24th), saying “Perak sincerely apologizes to fans who support us for failing to properly review the content of the show. Super Perak shows will also be suspended and follow-up efforts will be strengthened. Requirements and job inspections. "
The official Weibo Puppet Show official Weibo publicly apologized yesterday (24th) evening. (Recaptured from the thunderbolt puppet show Weibo)
The official Weibo Puppet Show official Weibo publicly apologized yesterday (24th) evening. (Recaptured from the thunderbolt puppet show Weibo)
MAC approves Chinese "Cultural Revolution witch hunting"

"Taro Media" pointed out that the MAC stated in writing that China had suppressed Taiwanese artistic and cultural figures, and it was evident that censorship of artistic and cultural figures had not been relaxed. Deepen Taiwan people's resentment against the CCP regime. "Called on China to stop certain political ideologies from interfering with cultural and artistic exchanges across the Taiwan Straits, and to give artists and artists free space for development.

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apparently long running puppet WuXia-ish thing Pili is dead because somebody involved said the virus was from WuHan
 
TorBo shopping report:

The coronapanic insanity is worse. Panic-buying continues. More people are wearing masks, some are even wearing bandanas as masks. Open stores are now actively enforcing "social distancing" with prominent signs and floor markers. Interactive demos have been disabled, whereas before they just wiped them down regularly. Also I recently got a postcard from the government with guidelines on how to handle the coronavirus threat.

I am so sick and tired of this Clown World "invisible enemy" chaos, and I'm sure we all miss the pre-corona world already.
 
Outside China:

511394 confirmed / 24028 dead / 56286 recovered

447809 / 20679 / 47969 yesterday

Iran:

32332 confirmed / 2378 dead / 11133 recovered

29406 / 2234 / 10457 yesterday

USA:

103942 confirmed / 1689 dead / 870 recovered JohnHopkins
104074 confirmed / 1698 dead / 870 recovered Infection2020

83836 / 1029 / 681 yesterday JohnHopkins
88579 / 1288 / 771 yesterday Infection2020

Italy:

86498 confirmed / 9134 dead / 10950 recovered

Spain:

65719 confirmed / 5138 dead / 9357 recovered
 
It gets better. Apparently the state HAS PPE on hand, but is saving it for the expected surge. They're going to wait until it gets bad before they do anything. Bold strategy.


 
Well, not a bad day over here. 168 new cases detected today is two fewer than yesterday, this despite the daily number of tests surging past 4500 (it was barely past 3000 just a couple days ago). The percentage of positive samples vs all samples tested actually decreased for the first time. And most importantly, nobody died.

Good news is, the Mazovian voivodeship (the central, most populous region of Poland where the capital is located,) seems to be slowing down, the worse news is that a few others are picking up the pace. There are also reports incoming of people testing negative twice and being discharged from hospitals after 2-3 weeks, but the ministry refuses to declare them recovered. They are all required to stay in quarantine for two more weeks now, so I can only assume they will be tested again afterwards and only then officially announced as recovered.

Everyone's staying inside and so am I. Fuck the sunny, warm weather and chirping birds.
My 2 cents on why there's no reason to be optimistic. We're getting new hotspots for cases, and these are the worst places possible. Consider the following.
Summary of the article goes here:
>there was a nurse who worked in a hospital and a nursing home with 67 people + staff of 14
>she gets tested positive
>according to the media 60 people in the nursing home are positive now, full data should be available on Monday
>around 80k people live in nursing homes in Poland, mostly old, and unhealthy
>the staff of nursing homes does not really know how to handle the situation and lacks means of protection
>which will, of course, be even worse in private nursing homes and people are afraid that we'll see the scenes from Spain repeating

Basically, a ticking bomb. Take care of your (grand)parents Kiwis, and don't leave them to die like this.
 
I don't believe I've seen it on the farms yet, but I will stand corrected if someone else did indeed post it first.


Fucking embarrassing. It's always a certain type of women and gay dudes who have to try to make everything about getting attention for themselves like this. I know a couple of the kind who have basically tried to make "performative grief and concern over coronavirus" into a personality trait.
 
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