Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Stoneheart]

"New patients are NOT SMOKERS, NOT OLD, NOT COMORBID. They are between 30-50 and are very sick."

Thats new and not like europe at all. also getting sick and dieing isnt the same.

A healthy 48 year old NYC nursing manager died of the virus recently. See, I am skeptical about the low kill stats now. I wasn't before but I am beginning to wonder. The rate they're dying is rather quick too, usually other flu's kill an elderly person (for example) after a three week battle and they succumb from secondary complications. Covid-19 has people dropping seemingly like flies.

something isnt right with americans, the deaths are skyrocketing much to fast and the time spend in hospitals is alot shorter than in europe or civilised asia.

 

[Non-Expert!]

And yet most of those obese flyover states you named don’t have the same rate of confirmed cases or hospitalizations that the cities with supposedly thinner people do.

I know it’s hard for some of you who live on the coasts to fathom this, but states like Wisconsin and Nebraska have thousands of cases already too because there is a fair amount of travel between these states for business. One person on my team alone has been to Madison, Omaha, Las Vegas, and Austin within the last month and a half. While the flyover states may be somewhat less exposed than the coasts, it’s not as if there‘s no business travel to increase that exposure. My city has a lot of Chinese students too. There have likely been mild cases in these states soon after the virus first appeared on the coasts.

I’m not arguing that obesity doesn’t make for worse outcomes with the virus, because being obese does make things worse with...well, everything. But let’s not act like the flyover states are so backwards and have such limited resources when we absolutely already have thousands of cases here, likely mostly mild based on the small number of hospitalizations and deaths thus far. Maybe worry about your own shithole cities...

Did I say that "flyover states" (a term that I would NEVER use) are "backwards?"

My concern is that in some cases, rural and semi-rural communities might be even worse off, than coastal ones, because aid seems to come here first.

Also, different areas have different problems. While NYC and St. Louis and some parts of LA might be equipped to deal with gunshot, per capita, rural Kansas or Oklahoma or Texarcana might be more prepared to deal with complications of obesity, per capita.

And not all states are equally funded. Do they even have universal health care, and the systems to support it, in "small government" states?

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Politico mentions a Mail article which reports on a study which is predicting 5,700 deaths, down from 20,000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YEI0221Qqs

Referenced Mail article

Could UK coronavirus deaths be lower than feared?

A new paper by Tom Pike, from Imperial College London, compares deaths for confirmed Covid-19 cases in China with eight other countries.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Archive
https://web.archive.org/web/2020032...Could-UK-coronavirus-deaths-lower-feared.html

 

[Non-Expert!]

We can't hang 'em. The hangman hasn't turned up in two weeks.

I believe that he has also been sent home, to "shelter in place."

 

[JosephStalin]

Interesting piece on how the North Korean economy is being affected by the ChiCom Flu. FYI... one US dollar equals 900 North Korean won, at the official exchange rate.

The North Korean Economy: Coronavirus Measures Causing Economic Anxiety | 38 North: Informed Analysis of North Korea

Grassroots media reporting and market price data from inside North Korea suggest there is considerable economic anxiety following the government’s…

www.38north.org

 

[Gog & Magog]

102-year-old Italian Woman Recovers From Coronavirus

"Doctors say her case impressed them so much that they decided to study it deeper.

"We got serological samples, she is the first patient we know that might have gone through the ‘Spanish flu’ since she was born in 1917," Sicbaldi explained, referring to the 1918/1919 flu pandemic that killed at least 50 million people worldwide, according to Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."

 

[Sweetpeaa]

Thats new and not like europe at all. also getting sick and dieing isnt the same.


something isnt right with americans, the deaths are skyrocketing much to fast and the time spend in hospitals is alot shorter than in europe or civilised asia.

They're being gaslighted. Government in the U.S are telling people there it isn't that serious, just ''contagious''. I'm sure the medical workers in the U.S would disagree.

 

[Swerf'n'Terf]

I suspect that the BMI distribution almost mirrors that in the general population with a slight over representation. We are a bunch of fat bastards, although still not as fat as over the pond. You don’t often see deathfats in the UK, even if most people are overweight.

Small point of clarification: the BMI distribution here roughly matches population data for underweight and healthy BMI categories, but BMI 25-29.9 is actually underrepresented in the Covid admittances (~34% vs. ~42% pop), so being mildly overweight may confer an advantage. Obesity is overrepresented and morbid obesity significantly more so. Obviously a small sample but interesting nevertheless.

 

[PittyKitty]

@Ponderous Pillock

Re our conversation about spaghetti bolognese... things are worse than we thought

Spoiler: Cockanese

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I don’t know what’s worse, the cocks or that abomination of a sauce

A cock d propably taste better than this...

 

[2021Murder]

A healthy 48 year old NYC nursing manager died of the virus recently. See, I am skeptical about the low kill stats now. I wasn't before but I am beginning to wonder. The rate they're dying is rather quick too, usually other flu's kill an elderly person (for example) after a three week battle and they succumb from secondary complications. Covid-19 has people dropping seemingly like flies. I don't know what to say.

I've heard the virus has a measles-like tendency to ''linger'' behind in the air. Not as infectious as Measles but holy fuck, is that scary to think.

If you think the US doesnt fuck with stats any chance it gets, then i assume you also believe all those electricty spikes in New Mexico back in the 40s was from a bunch of Redskins stealing electricity like they told people.

The US government has never been honest with us and few US businesses are either. And to figure out accurate stats on this we have to trust both the businesses that run the hospitals and the government officials to not feel like lying to people for some reason. If their employees knew they had only a 3/4 shot of surviving to see halloween they might not come back, and if the US population knew they had a 5% shot of not seeing Halloween they might go a bit crazier too.

(Im making those stats up obviously, but if they were accurate obviously they wouldnt let people know)

 

[large_farva]

This seems interesting: https://www.twitter.com/hash_tigre/status/1243052725778001920/photo/1

archive your shit

HashTigre🌼DayLite on Twitter: "There's always a twist... #billgates …

archived 28 Mar 2020 22:26:02 UTC

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For those of you claiming that Germany is giving a lot of free money to artists, we don't actually know right now how much of their $168 billion package is gonna go to the arts&media:



US museums are planning for the long haul:



As for those of you speculating about whether Covid19 patients are young or old, male or female, fat or skinny, here's what this doctor said about his patients: "New patients are NOT SMOKERS, NOT OLD, NOT COMORBID. They are between 30-50 and are very sick."

Here's another: "It's Biblical Hell. They are all ages. Don't delude yourself into thinking only the old will die."

NYC is basically fucked:

Spoiler: archived videos

 

[eternal dog mongler]

A healthy 48 year old NYC nursing manager died of the virus recently. See, I am skeptical about the low kill stats now. I wasn't before but I am beginning to wonder. The rate they're dying is rather quick too, usually other flu's kill an elderly person (for example) after a three week battle and they succumb from secondary complications. Covid-19 has people dropping seemingly like flies. I don't know what to say.

I saw that article. That dude was providing direct patient care while not wearing PPE AT ALL.

I don't care if you think you're immortal that's just shit patient safety.

 

[Smug Cat]

Aiight I dug back a little bit and it doesn't look like this has been posted yet. Remember Dr. Aylward, the Chinese dick-sucking WHO official?

https://twitter.com/wilfredchan/status/1243887606569590784 (https://archive.li/afksR)

I think I owe an apology to the people I was arguing with earlier in the thread who said the Chinese govt was fucking with the American mainstream media.

 

[Kornheiser]

Why have states and municipalities shit the bed so hard that they have to ask the feds? The feds can’t do everything so prepare yourself. You are elected officials you have responsibilities that come with the job, don’t rely on the feds for everything.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

I don’t know what’s worse, the cocks or that abomination of a sauce

Sauce probably came out of a tin, which means it's a bad sauce. It's probably a lot better nutritionally than just pasta or rice though - you'll probably get enough essential fatty acids/essential amino acids assuming you got a selection of sauces and it's probably a lot less bland than rice and beans. That and some vitamin pills and you could probably survive for ages on just one meal of that a day without getting malnutrition. Normally we have such a wide choice of food that we don't realize that the human body can run very lean indeed when it has to.

 

[Allanon]

A minor note from the Chinese friend I have. She lives in a rural area, somewhat near to Wuhan. According to her impression, the death toll in China was tens of thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands. Extremely higher than was reported. It's not really new information, since evidence already points to that, but I guess it's of note, since it's the same person who says life has returned to normal and no one is under the impression the virus is still around now there.

 

[Non-Expert!]

102-year-old Italian Woman Recovers From Coronavirus
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"Doctors say her case impressed them so much that they decided to study it deeper.

Always hoping for insights so yay researchers!

However my gut instinct is going to go with awesome genes. 102 years old ... still has retained a youthful vigor. Her facial expression seems to indicate that her brain is in good enough shape.

Most of the time, cellular aging does wacky and disturbing things to our bodies, and it it evident on the outside. Hands get gnarled up, facial expression grows blanker or more confused as the brain ages, backs hunch, skin gets all spotted and thin, etc.

This lady seems unusually advantaged.

 

[MechanicusAdmin]

I shouldn’t need to say this, but don’t use anything with loose asbestos in it. Mesothelioma is one of the more unpleasant ways to die, and it’s a when, not an if, if you’re breathing it in. A single fibre can set off the process that will kill you and it is quicker than fifty years. Mesothelioma or any form of asbestosis is horrifically bad.
Now non- asbestos gas masks? Go for it. It adds a fun cyberpunk aesthetic to the flupocalypse and they’re easy to disinfect.
If I hadn’t already been stricken I’d be in Tesco’s in my half face respirator

I've had to wear a respirator when I've been tasked to disassemble and destroy old masks suspected of having asbestos filters in them due to just that slim chance. Asbestos is not something to take any chance with. Even our firefighters go to drastic measures with their gear, especially their turnout clothes, after structure fires with suspected asbestos involved.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Deaths went up to over 430 in Germany, rising by more than 70 in a day, I fear this is where the turning point comes. Germany has had significantly low numbers in that regard and I think it is now going to change. Where it was mainly younger people that got the WuhanFlu, it's now going to be older people and they stand barely a chance.
There was a retirement home with 15ish senior citizens and 10 of them died within a week of being infected. God, this is terrible.

We've had so much luck with how few people died, but expect this number to rise to be closer to the "average" in the coming days.

 

[no_mad_johnny]

In non-food related news: my relative [confirmed wuflu case in relative's workplace and said relative also experienced all symptoms of wuflu] in frogland had shortness of breath and called frogland version of 911.

Relative is young, without preexisting conditions, has healthy BMI, exercises regularly, etc.

Relative was taken to...somewhere (not sure if it was a hospital) and tested for two different types of flu viruses. If both tests results are negative then relative will finally be officially tested for wuflu.

Frogland is being extremely stingy with testing.

Relative's tests for flu were all negative. Technically the next test should be for wuflu but the frogs are being stingy again and have said that my relative will only be tested for wuflu in case of another experience of shortness of breath.

Besides that my relative was encouraged to take amoxicilin.

In non-family related news, I don't get why so many people are acting as if spending time with their spouse/children is such a novelty or difficulty? So people seriously didn't spend time with/discipline their own kids? How did they managed to get married if they hate spending time with their spouse?

I am just surprised to see so many people acting as if it's such a torture to be at their own homes.

Maybe I am out of the loop and this is some normie meme