Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[#zzz]

This website has a cool virus world map animation

auspice

nextstrain.org

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

Here's a video that describes that people in Wuhan complained that the quarantine is too long:

 

[Non-Expert!]

You damn fool! fomites are one of the transmission method of the wuflu!

It is not a fomite if it is home-made, cheesy, bubbly and bursting with yumminess.

 

[New & Improved Username]

Over 10,000 in Italy and Catholics aren't supposed to be cremated. Where will they all go?

 

[Otterly]

Look at this. This is the daily mail, the mid market tabloid which is generally considered the voice of the average Joe. People slag off the mail but when they start running with an issue that’s previously been ignored it means that this is now an issue that government are Ok with discussing. The fact a paper will or will not report, and their spin on an issue, are often more important that the actual story itself. Now look at these headlines:

Fury at China efforts to blame Covid-19 on US army delegation to Wuhan

Ministers demand a review of Britain's relationship with the Communist super-state and president Xi Jinping, pictured, as Boris Johnson faces renewed pressure to block 5G deal with Huawei.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Archive: http://archive.is/8bvAb

Chinese markets are still selling bats

Terrified dogs and cats crammed into rusty cages. Bats and scorpions offered for sale as traditional medicine. Markets in China are operating as usual.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Archive: http://archive.is/jfE6X

Downing Street says China faces a 'reckoning' over the coronavirus

Ministers and senior Downing Street officials said the Communist state now faces a 'reckoning' over its handling of the outbreak and risks becoming a 'pariah state'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Archive http://archive.is/JLpgh

Absolutely remarkable. Open criticism of the Chinese regime, plus an added ‘look at these disgusting pet eaters’ headline (the Brits like their pets.) first article openly states that China may have under reported by 15-40 times
The tide is going to turn against China. Here is the press setting the stage for it.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

You damn fool! fomites are one of the transmission method of the wuflu!

It is not a fomite if it is home-made, cheesy, bubbly and bursting with yumminess.

She's as bad as me, she's staying in and any cooties I might have caught I would have already, her and her clan are always running around the hallway and I live next door. I'll have lasagna for lunch tomorrow.

 

[No. 7 cat]

This is my favourite Covid related tweet today.
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https://archive.li/1sKhR

Benjamin Dreyfuss (1986-06-14), who touts his endorsement by his sister as a 'blogger' on his LinkedIn profile, is apparently the Editorial Director at Mother Jones. He lives at Apartment 5B, 15 Bridge Park Drive, Brooklyn NY.

We should cheer up Ben. Send him Maga hats and pizza.

 

[heathercho]

So Australia is seeing very little community transfer, despite having active cases longer then north america and euopre.

Hey, remember when I was saying that hot summer weather would put a severe crimp in Coronavirus' spread? I'm starting to think I was right...

Australia's first case was on Jan 25, I think. Our rules for "recovered" are stricter than elsewhere, so we have 170 "recovered" and 16 deaths. All those 16 deaths have been older or sick people (like a 98 year old lady etc).

We've also had major shut downs and social distancing for a while and people who were coming in had to self isolate - that happened by Jan 31.
Community transmissions (tho NSW has traced most of the community transmissions to the source) have only been in wealthier suburbs, were those people think they're above rules. We've also tested more people per capita than anywhere in the world, we're only slightly behind South Korea. They have nearly double our population (I think their pop is 60mil, ours is 28mil).

By the 20th March, we'd tested 113,615 people vs by the same date, the US had only tested 103,945 people.

As of the other day, all returning people have to be isolated in hotels for 14 days.

I actually think it's probably more a case of stricter track and trace, stricter measurements for deeming people "recovered", more testing and then, warmer weather. Plus a smaller population.

SK has managed to slow their rates and it's not warmer there yet, so it is an interesting thing, I just think that it could be down to a lot of things.

 

[Barnard]

Don't despair if they grow. Poland is entering phase 2, that is when contention measures simply stop being sufficient, so, soon the curve will start growing, and every residence it gets will be a tragedy. If your government does great it'll minimize the tragedies, but south korea really is as close to a best case as you can hope for. You still held out for far longer than expected and are in a position to reach that best case, no one could've asked for more, but phase 2 always hurts.

I told y'all from the start. The most fucked up part about biology is you know sometimes you lost before you started, all you can do is minimize losses. It doesn't matter how good you do sometimes some are lost as soon as a vein in their skull explodes and it doesn't matter how fast or efficiently you act nothing will bring them back. That's a lesson one can only learn the hard way. Corona was always one of those cases. You're doing great, don't let the unavoidable hits push you to do something stupid.

Thanks. Don't worry, I'm not going to panic.

I still think we're holding out OK, considering. The Czech Republic is at a similar stage and they had something like 400 new detections yesterday. Stuff like that nursing home or infected hospital personnel will be coming in now. The important thing is that we're buying ourselves precious time necessary to prepare, purchase supplies, convert hospitals, get more labs going, mobilize more personnel, prevent the healthcare from getting overloaded. There was a forecast predicting a peak of 9-10k active infections mid April. We can handle that.

I'm still getting mixed messages concerning the efficiency of the current lockdown. As expected, it's not enforced very strictly. It's no curfew, there's still a good deal of responsibility on people's own shoulders. So there are photos and reports of empty streets on one hand, and of people crowding in supermarkets and walking/biking in parks on another. Not being there, I have no way to verify them, can only say that where I live, normally active places are empty and shops are anything but crowded. A lot of the concerning information comes from Warsaw. Certain people in Warsaw are, I think, our closest equivalent of spoiled, hysterical yet self-important and entitled twats common in American cities. I hope the place doesn't become a shitshow.

 

[Adamska]

Oh yeah, went on a chicken run yesterday morning (since we've not had the fresh stuff in over a week). I finally get what dead means given that I did not have to wait to get out of my development and there were basically no cars out on the road.

Traffic though is still seminormal after about 9 AM though.

 

[remiem]

Australia's first case was on Jan 25, I think. Our rules for "recovered" are stricter than elsewhere, so we have 170 "recovered" and 16 deaths. All those 16 deaths have been older or sick people (like a 98 year old lady etc).

We've also had major shut downs and social distancing for a while and people who were coming in had to self isolate - that happened by Jan 31.
Community transmissions (tho NSW has traced most of the community transmissions to the source) have only been in wealthier suburbs, were those people think they're above rules. We've also tested more people per capita than anywhere in the world, we're only slightly behind South Korea. They have nearly double our population (I think their pop is 60mil, ours is 28mil).

By the 20th March, we'd tested 113,615 people vs by the same date, the US had only tested 103,945 people.

As of the other day, all returning people have to be isolated in hotels for 14 days.

I actually think it's probably more a case of stricter track and trace, stricter measurements for deeming people "recovered", more testing and then, warmer weather. Plus a smaller population.

SK has managed to slow their rates and it's not warmer there yet, so it is an interesting thing, I just think that it could be down to a lot of things.

I wonder if it's sun contributing. All the tests talk about the heat and humidity but we haven't seen anything about how UV affects it. Especially in cases where it's droplet or aerosol. As the colder places warm up and go into summer what else happens? we get longer days and more sun and if the sun nukes the virus then there's a very good chance that it will help slow it down because instead of lingering in cooler air it's getting deep fried by that sweet sweet radiation that gives people sun burns, which will hopefully render it slightly less deadly at the very least.

Winter in Canada and the States means people stay inside more- be it snow, rain, or colder temps and there's a lot more indoor events. Which might explain why it skyrockets further in places it's still cold. The weather contributes to people cluster together and meeting indoors.

I guess California and Florida might fly in the face of that but that could be related to population density in those states.

I reiterate. It's truly perplexing that we've been looking at this for months now and yet it seems like all the info is unknowns, maybes or contradictions.

 

[Judge Holden]

The tide is going to turn against China. Here is the press setting the stage for it.

Ever heard of the Jack London novella The Unparalleled Invasion?

Its an old timey speculative future story from the pre-WW1 era in which an ascendant china begins threatening other world powers, and after they defeat the french army and kick the shit out of the japanese so hard the entire nation retires from world politics to focus on creating anime* the USA, British Empire, Germans, Russians, Italians, Austro-Hungarians, Turks and for some reason the Greeks meet together and resolve that the only logical and moral conclusion is to straight up murder every chinaman on the face of the planet.

To this end they march their armies to central asia and siberia to seal off the border, have their navies blockade china from the sea.....then bombard every square inch of china with biological weapons, and afterwards have the assembled armies go full einsatzgrupen on any survivors. Then China is settled by europeans and becomes Burgerland 2. Then WW1 happens in the 1990s.

Reason I bring it up, other than the novelty of a book which unironically has mass genocide by biological weapons as a happy ending, is because I wonder whether various world leaders from drumpf to putin are at this stage considering the cost-benefit ratios of jointly pulling out of china and cutting them off from the world economy, while bombarding their infrastructure with every plausably deniable cyberhaxxing effort they have in their arsenal until the government collapses.

* I am not even joking. This is explicitly spelled out in the text

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

Yes, the original peddler of the half million dead revised his tally twice, down to 20,000, then down to 5000, Competing biologists have also criticized his original study, and calling out the media for hysteria peddling. The question is, why didn't the media and the governments go crazy when SARS hit? There would have been one crazy biologist out there who would probably say millions would die. Why didn't all the media outlets listen to the crazy guy then?

It's still deadlier than Swine Flu. That totted out at around 300 dead over 18 months. We're on a thousand dead in just 2.

The original study did model on us doing absolutely nothing. We usually get around 540,000 deaths a year and the modelling did not really determine how many of them would be replacement deaths. But such a large number likely means it'd have been quite a bit bigger.

The second study was the initial social distancing measures undertaken but again, no suggestion on them being replacement deaths of around 250,000.

Third study was 20,000 or so, with the lockdown.

And the new study is 5,700 which hasn't had any modelling done on it. It's just a prediction.

 

[Big Nasty]

Went to the local supermarket. The following items were not to be found:

Spaghetti
Rice
Flour
Yeast
Cooking oil
Heinz baked beans.

 

[EmuWarsVeteran]

Hey hey hey! Spain news here! There is... no news really. Tonight I studied till late and this morning I was let sleep till 11 o clock. My union contact had no need to call me. Which so far's been almost every day at like 8 or so. I asked them if there were any news while I gouged more coffe than people would find reasonable. Nothing. The cops haven't even come by called by neither of the parties, there was no new outbreak, the inspectors have stoped being fucktards after we made a chat for non-associates so I guess they know the union's decided to fight them on EVERYONE and decided to take their losses. There was no massive fuckup. We're seriously not just back to normal but better than normal. Guess god saw my mental breakdown from yesterday. So, thanks, god. Shit this feels weird. You know, in a book or film this is when they would talk about the "calm before the storm", but fuck those fatalist fucks, I plan on enjoying the rest of the day with my loved ones and some computer games and more Poirot reruns. We're getting good at guessing who will be the killer.

 

[AltisticRight]

Hoarders BTFO Eternally.
(Well can't people just go to multiple stores, or use the self-checkout... if that thing is smart enough to recognise two copies, just do it one by one?)

 

[MrBlueSocks]

I noticed something when I looked at the map of cases in the United States. More of the Midwest and Eastern states are completely covered up. Amazingly, the western spots are also hit but not as covered. California has a lot of cases too of course. But from videos I've seen, photos and things I've seen- more people are taking the social distancing seriously and California cities basically look like ghost towns and there are less cars on the streets.
Los Angeles and San Francisco still have it bad, but it's interesting.
I do know that more numbers will pop up and things will change. But I'm glad that people in California are actually following the rules in the cities. I'm also seeing a lot more people in masks at stores.

Is it population density and mass transit?

Not American, but (on TV and Films) LA always seems like a spread out car city, the poor still live in houses with small gardens, but New York is older, denser with lots of taxis and subway , the poor live in crowded apartments.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population_density

 

[AltisticRight]

https://archive.is/wip/s6it4

TN man breaks quarantine, runs naked, bites woman to death

A young man under home quarantine for coronavirus after return from Sri Lanka suddenly ran out of his house and fatally bit a 80-year old woman in his neighbourhood in a village near here, police said on Saturday.

www.oneindia.com

Chennai, Mar 29: A young man under home quarantine for coronavirus after return from Sri Lanka suddenly ran out of his house and fatally bit a 80-year old woman in his neighbourhood in a village near here, police said on Saturday.

The woman with injuries in her neck was hospitalised late Friday after the incident but died on Saturday without responding to treatment, they said.

The man, a resident of Jakkamanayakanpatti and engaged in seasonal business in clothing, was overpowered and handed over to police, who arrested him and investigations were on.

He had recently returned from Sri Lanka and directed to remain under quarantine by health authorities as per the protocol for foreign returnees to check coronavirus spread.

He came out of his house on Friday evening and all of a sudden, denuded himself and began running through the street.

Shocked family members including his father gave a chase even as he caught hold of Nachiyammal, seated on her house's front yard and bit hard her neck.

The man's kin overpowered him and admitted the woman to nearby Bodi Government Hospital where doctors on Saturday said she succumbed to her injuries, not responding to treatment. Health authorities were unavailable for comments immediately.

Coronachan is just softcore. Streetshitters are biting the elderly to death.

 

[Exbein]

https://archive.li/wip/s6it4

TN man breaks quarantine, runs naked, bites woman to death

A young man under home quarantine for coronavirus after return from Sri Lanka suddenly ran out of his house and fatally bit a 80-year old woman in his neighbourhood in a village near here, police said on Saturday.

www.oneindia.com

Chennai, Mar 29: A young man under home quarantine for coronavirus after return from Sri Lanka suddenly ran out of his house and fatally bit a 80-year old woman in his neighbourhood in a village near here, police said on Saturday.

The woman with injuries in her neck was hospitalised late Friday after the incident but died on Saturday without responding to treatment, they said.

The man, a resident of Jakkamanayakanpatti and engaged in seasonal business in clothing, was overpowered and handed over to police, who arrested him and investigations were on.

He had recently returned from Sri Lanka and directed to remain under quarantine by health authorities as per the protocol for foreign returnees to check coronavirus spread.

He came out of his house on Friday evening and all of a sudden, denuded himself and began running through the street.

Shocked family members including his father gave a chase even as he caught hold of Nachiyammal, seated on her house's front yard and bit hard her neck.

The man's kin overpowered him and admitted the woman to nearby Bodi Government Hospital where doctors on Saturday said she succumbed to her injuries, not responding to treatment. Health authorities were unavailable for comments immediately.

Coronachan is just softcore. Streetshitters are biting the elderly to death.

when can we expect news of the dead coming back to life?

 

[Super-Chevy454]

Thanks to Corona-chan, homeschool is more popular and that made the guys of the Washington Post aka Washington Compost angry. Styx and some Youtubers talked about this.

Nostra Fn Damus
"Teaching your kids yourself and not allowing us to poison their minds with propaganda is totally racist or something" - WaPo, probably

h347h
If you dig deeper they already poisoned that well. They try and associate homeschooling with white nationalists and far right Christians.