Disaster The US is losing its world superpower status due to its failure to lead on the Covid-19 crisis – and this time, it might not recover - China? This was always America's Chernobyl, citizen!

https://www.independent.co.uk/voice...ne-coronavirus-brazil-bolsonaro-a9430566.html

The US is losing its world superpower status due to its failure to lead on the Covid-19 crisis – and this time, it might not recover

As exemplified by the coronavirus pandemic, the end of US hegemony is less to do with economics and military strength and everything to do with Trump’s inability to cope with a real global crisis

The US may be reaching its “Chernobyl moment” as it fails to lead in combating the coronavirus epidemic. As with the nuclear accident in the Soviet Union in 1986, a cataclysm is exposing systemic failings that have already weakened US hegemony in the world. Whatever the outcome of the pandemic, nobody is today looking to Washington for a solution to the crisis.

The fall in US influence was visible this week at virtual meetings of world leaders where the main US diplomatic effort was devoted to an abortive attempt to persuade the others to sign a statement referring to the “Wuhan virus”, as part of a campaign to blame China for the coronavirus epidemic. Demonising others as a diversion from one’s own shortcomings is a central feature of President Trump’s political tactics. Arkansas Republican senator Tom Cotton took up the same theme, saying that “China unleashed this plague on the world, and China has to be held accountable”.

US failure goes far beyond Trump’s toxic political style: American supremacy in the world since the Second World War has been rooted in its unique capacity to get things done internationally by persuasion or by the threat or use of force. But the inability of Washington to respond adequately to Covid-19 shows that this is no longer the case and crystallises a perception that American competence is vanishing. The change in attitude is important because superpowers, such as the British Empire, the Soviet Union in the recent past or the US today, depend on a degree of bluff. They cannot afford to put their all-powerful image to the test too often because they cannot be seen to fail: an exaggerated picture of British strength was shattered by the Suez Crisis in 1956, as was that of the Soviet Union by the war in Afghanistan in the 1980s.

The coronavirus crisis is the equivalent of Suez and Afghanistan for Trump’s America. Indeed, these crises seem minor compared to the Covid-19 pandemic, which will have far greater impact because everybody on the planet is a potential victim and feels threatened. Faced with such a mega-crisis, the failure of the Trump administration to lead responsibly is proving extraordinarily destructive to the US position in the world.

The decline of the US is usually seen as the counterpart to the rise of China – and China has, at least for the moment, successfully got a grip on its own epidemic. It is the Chinese who are sending ventilators and medical teams to Italy and face masks to Africa. Italians note that the other EU states all ignored Italy’s desperate appeal for medical equipment and only China responded. A Chinese charity sent 300,000 face masks to Belgium in a container on which was written the slogan “Unity Makes Strength” in French, Flemish and Chinese.

Such exercises in “soft power” may have limited influence once the crisis is over, though this is likely to be a long time coming. But, while it does so, the message is going out that China can provide essential equipment and expertise at a critical moment and the US cannot. These changes in perception are not going to disappear overnight.

Prophecies that the US is in a state of decline have been two a penny almost as long as the US emerged from the Second World War as the greatest superpower. Yet the much-heralded downfall of the American empire has kept being postponed or has seen others decline even faster, notably the Soviet Union. Critics of “US decline-ism” explain that, while the US may no longer dominate the world economy to the degree it once did, it still has 800 bases around the world and a military budget of $748bn.

Yet the inability of the US military to use its technical prowess to win wars in Somalia, Afghanistan and Iraq has shown how little it has got in return for its vast expenditure.

Trump has not started any wars despite his bellicose rhetoric, but he has used the power of the US Treasury rather than the Pentagon. By imposing tight economic sanctions on Iran and threatening other countries with economic warfare, he has demonstrated the degree to which the US controls the world financial system.

But these arguments about the rise or decline of the US as an economic and military power miss a more important point that should be obvious. The very real decline of the US as a global power, as exemplified by the coronavirus pandemic crisis, has less to do with guns and money than many suppose, and much more to do with Trump himself as both the symptom and cause of American decline.

Put simply, the US is no longer a country that the rest of the world wants to emulate or, if they do, the emulators tend to be authoritarian nativist demagogues or despots. Their admiration is warmly welcomed: witness Trump’s embrace of the Hindu nationalist Indian prime minister Narendra Modi and his cultivation of the younger generation of tyrants such as Kim Jung-un in North Korea and Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman in Saudi Arabia.

Democratic and despotic rulers will, at least at first, be strengthened by the pandemic, since in times of acute crisis people want to see their governments as saviours who know what they are doing.

But demagogues like Trump and his equivalents around the world are seldom much good at handling real crises, because they have risen to power by exploiting ethnic and sectarian hatreds, scapegoating their opponents and boosting their own mythical achievements.

An example of this is Brazil’s far-right president, Jair Bolsonaro, who accuses his opponents and the media of “tricking” Brazilians about the dangers of coronavirus. Such is the government’s laxity in enforcing any type of lockdown in Rio de Janeiro that in at least three slums, only the local drugs cartels have stepped in to declare and enforce an 8pm curfew.

Trump has always excelled in exploiting and exacerbating divisions in American society and producing simple-minded solutions to mythical crises, such as building the famous wall to stop the entry of Central American migrants into the US. But now he is faced with a real crisis, he is gambling that it will be of short duration and less severe than most experts predict. Polls show that his popularity has risen, probably because frightened people prefer to hear good news rather than bad. So far, the worst outbreaks of the illness have been in New York, Boston and other cities where Trump never had much support. If it spreads with the same intensity to Texas and Florida, then the loyalty of even Trump’s core supporters may evaporate.

The reason why the US is weaker as a country is because it is divided and these divisions will get deeper as long as Trump is in power. Hitherto he has avoided provoking serious crises, and his mishandling of the coronavirus epidemic shows that he was wise to do so. He is polarising an already divided country and this is the real reason for the decline of the US.

An example of this is Brazil’s far-right president, Jair Bolsonaro, who accuses his opponents and the media of “tricking” Brazilians about the dangers of coronavirus. Such is the government’s laxity in enforcing any type of lockdown in Rio de Janeiro that in at least three slums, only the local drugs cartels have stepped in to declare and enforce an 8pm curfew.

Trump has always excelled in exploiting and exacerbating divisions in American society and producing simple-minded solutions to mythical crises, such as building the famous wall to stop the entry of Central American migrants into the US. But now he is faced with a real crisis, he is gambling that it will be of short duration and less severe than most experts predict. Polls show that his popularity has risen, probably because frightened people prefer to hear good news rather than bad. So far, the worst outbreaks of the illness have been in New York, Boston and other cities where Trump never had much support. If it spreads with the same intensity to Texas and Florida, then the loyalty of even Trump’s core supporters may evaporate.

The reason why the US is weaker as a country is because it is divided and these divisions will get deeper as long as Trump is in power. Hitherto he has avoided provoking serious crises, and his mishandling of the coronavirus epidemic shows that he was wise to do so. He is polarising an already divided country and this is the real reason for the decline of the US.

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Did I call it or what? "Blaming China for the coronavirus is demagogery trying to distract from America failing"
 
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I couldn't either at first, but then I saw that our own media started making it very clear that if you so much as harbor one negative thought about China (not even Chinese people, but China as a whole, including the Chinese government) then you're a LITERAL RACIST SCUMLORD on par with Hitler and LITERAL HITLER (Trump).

I'm pretty positive that's how it's happening.

Uhh no that's because you people keep saying racist things specifically against the Chinese people. You'd know this if you ever stopped blaming other people for once in your lives.

West - Say you're sick and you get care.

East - Say you're sick and you mysteriously disappear or shame the nation.

Golly, less people sick in China and Japan.

Really, considering how much you people complain about the west in here, you'd think the west was turning into an Orwellian nightmare. Or maybe that was just more edgy teenager larping and you don't actually believe in a word you say.
 
Uhh no that's because you people keep saying racist things specifically against the Chinese people. You'd know this if you ever stopped blaming other people for once in your lives.
Excuse me but the Chinese are currently committing an active genocide based on race in their own country at the moment and have enslaved non-han chinese or have put them in death camps.

I think China needs to learn how not to be racist, they also need to not be racist towards the japanese and South koreans.
 
Excuse me but the Chinese are currently committing an active genocide based on race in their own country at the moment and have enslaved non-han chinese or have put them in death camps.

I think China needs to learn how not to be racist, they also need to not be racist towards the japanese and South koreans.

According to the same media that you hate and the same media that's telling you this, Trump is also literally Hitler and rounding Mexicans up into concentration camps. This is why we call you controlled opposition. You are exactly the same as those whiny redditors who claim they hate the corporate elite while getting all of their information from the corporate media, and that's why no one takes you seriously.
 
According to the same media that you hate and the same media that's telling you this, Trump is also literally Hitler and rounding Mexicans up into concentration camps. This is why we call you controlled opposition. You are exactly the same as those whiny redditors who claim they hate the corporate elite while getting all of their information from the corporate media, and that's why no one takes you seriously.
The detention facilities are not the same as your Organ harvesting farms. Mainly because the US deports these people alive back to their home countries.

Sending your prisoner's organs to the black market like China does is not deportation, it's Nuremberg levels of criminality.
 
Uhh no that's because you people keep saying racist things specifically against the Chinese people. You'd know this if you ever stopped blaming other people for once in your lives.



Really, considering how much you people complain about the west in here, you'd think the west was turning into an Orwellian nightmare. Or maybe that was just more edgy teenager larping and you don't actually believe in a word you say.

Lol k Martin. You're right. It was horrible of me and anyone else to even imply that the outbreak originated in China and that the Chinese government could ever possibly be capable of reporting anything but the truth about their infection numbers and containment data. Please, help me become a better, more enlightened person and get all these dirty RACIST thoughts out of my feeble mind! I want to post on the internet with integrity, just like you!
 
Anti-westerners are fucking desperate to hitch their wagon to anything that's not america, to the point where they side with a real life hitler but because he's not white they think he's innocent and can do no wrong.


At this point siding with China is retarded if you're claiming to go against america on moral grounds, no you're just being a contrarian just for the sake of because you like being told what to think and the image of being a rebel, but your mentality is empty and void of any productive thought or reasoning.
 
The detention facilities are not the same as your Organ harvesting farms. Mainly because the US deports these people alive back to their home countries.

Sending your prisoner's organs to the black market like China does is not deportation, it's Nuremberg levels of criminality.

Your cops go around breaking into people's houses and shooting them in their sleep and your government lets them get away with it. Your country is literally a police state. And your sitting president got impeached for corruption.

Anti-westerners are fucking desperate to hitch their wagon to anything that's not america, to the point where they side with a real life hitler but because he's not white they think he's innocent and can do no wrong.

I'm not the one constantly going "REEEEE UK/CANADA/SWEDEN IS TURNING INTO 1984 ANNEX/NUKE THEM NOW" and then doing a complete 180 because the media activated your trigger word. I'm not sure you can even be considered sentient given how easily the media programs you.
 
Your cops go around breaking into people's houses and shooting them in their sleep and your government lets them get away with it. Your country is literally a police state. And your sitting president got impeached for corruption.



I'm not the one constantly going "REEEEE UK/CANADA/SWEDEN IS TURNING INTO 1984 ANNEX/NUKE THEM NOW" and then doing a complete 180 because the media activated your trigger word. I'm not sure you can even be considered sentient given how easily the media programs you.
I think you're retarded or you're watching 24/7 news networks which is something that only a retard would do.

It's clear you trust the corporate media, which is a big mistake.
 
I think you're exceptional or you're watching 24/7 news networks which is something that only an exceptional individual would do.

It's clear you trust the corporate media, which is a big mistake.

I'm getting paid 6 figures to work in tech and all this virus has done to me is let me work from home all the time now. I sold all my stocks right before the crash and avoided most of the loss. If this is what being retarded looks like then I'm fine with that. Considering how angry you all are over the virus, it looks like most of you weren't intelligent enough to take preparations and instead of taking responsibility you go and lash out at everyone but yourselves like a typical narcissistic millennial. No tears will be shed for your brand of scum.
 
I couldn't either at first, but then I saw that our own media started making it very clear that if you so much as harbor one negative thought about China (not even Chinese people, but China as a whole, including the Chinese government) then you're a LITERAL RACIST SCUMLORD on par with Hitler and LITERAL HITLER (Trump).

I'm pretty positive that's how it's happening.
I said "wuflu" on the phone with a friend. Got told it's racist. Made a remark about being racist against a city and it originated there. "Doesn't matter it's still racist and people are beating up asians because Trump called it Chinese"
 
I really don't get this whole thing. How can anyone look at America right now and take the whole Wuflu thing seriously? Were I'm at we've barely been effected other than the hysteria shutting down a lot of businesses. However rather suspiciously I haven't heard of anyone actually dying of the virus anywhere near me and the people I know personally in the US who had the virus said it was just a 3 to 4 day thing that was really no big deal.
 
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I'm getting paid 6 figures to work in tech and all this virus has done to me is let me work from home all the time now. I sold all my stocks right before the crash and avoided most of the loss. If this is what being exceptional looks like then I'm fine with that. Considering how angry you all are over the virus, it looks like most of you weren't intelligent enough to take preparations and instead of taking responsibility you go and lash out at everyone but yourselves like a typical narcissistic millennial. No tears will be shed for your brand of scum.
Getting paid 6 figures in rice isn't something worth bragging about.
 
I really don't get this whole thing. How can anyone look at America right now and take the whole Wuflu thing seriously? Were I'm at we've barely been effected other than the hysteria shutting down a lot of businesses. However rather suspiciously I haven't heard of anyone actually dying of the virus anywhere near me and the people I know personally in the US who had the virus said it was just a 3 to 4 day thing that was really no big deal.
In a country of 330 million the numbers we are at now are tiny. We would like to keep it that way. Hence the measures.
 
As if those new apartment blocks in ghost cities falling over, splitting open, and showing there's no concrete inside the walls, just sand and landfill waste, wasn't enough......
Can you share some pictures of this? I've seen plenty of the giant abandoned cities but not many of the facade already falling apart.
 
China? the Wu flu is killing bug people left and right. they also have massive riots everywhere.
Yes the US will have a massive set back and riots and lose of economic power, maybe a military Junta for a couple of years, but in the end they will be okay.

the real winner of this crisis?
well 2 Nations will profit from this...
The rising sun

And the Eagle...
 
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not even a rag, strictly speaking - its sales have tanked so badly in the last 10 years it doesn't even have a print edition any more
I thought there was some freesheet derived from it, the 'i' or something, but maybe not. It's not as appalling as a tax dodging Scott Trust Grauniad. Shit but not that shit.
 
I'm getting paid 6 figures to work in tech and all this virus has done to me is let me work from home all the time now. I sold all my stocks right before the crash and avoided most of the loss. If this is what being exceptional looks like then I'm fine with that. Considering how angry you all are over the virus, it looks like most of you weren't intelligent enough to take preparations and instead of taking responsibility you go and lash out at everyone but yourselves like a typical narcissistic millennial. No tears will be shed for your brand of scum.
Considering your style of posting, what you exclusively focus on, and your oddly generic name, I get the feeling you work for a guerilla marketing agency like Shareblue or something. Kiwi Farms has plenty of people who don't like Trump that get along fine with everyone else, and can articulate their disdain in ways that don't sound like a bitchy ex-girlfriend.

Kiwi Farms doesn't work like Reddit. It's tightly knit, and impotently angry users stand out much more. A name like "martin123" doesn't stand out on Reddit, but considering the mantra of anonymity of KF, a name that sounds more like a business email address sticks out like a sore thumb.

Also, you curiously don't acknowledge any posts on your profile. Not getting paid to? Regardless, your post history times don't show any consistency, which looks like you just don't keep a schedule, let alone get a full night's sleep.
 
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