Furry Fandom and Drama General

Dillard was (somehow) injured by the gunfire.

They seem to have removed it in the past half hour, but there was a screencap that explained that Dillard said she held the victim down while her boyfriend shot them.

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Why are people even concerned with the pronouns of a murderer? Typical priorities of those involved.
It's because the furry fandom is a constant battle for good PR, this is their chance to be seen as inclusive. UwU ✨

They don't care about real animals or the well-being of others, just their own asses because the fandom centres around egotism, attention whoring and masquerading as a fantasy version of themselves cos they have a shit personality.
 
Having looked at the murderers' twitter feed (archive) for a bit it's extremely fucked up, particularly in the most recent months. January and February are pretty much one prolonged cry for help, broken by occasional sketches or fursuit WIPs or photos of the dog that they would also later kill. Near the end, Jacob was constantly in and out of the hospital for suicide attempts and PTSD meltdowns and shit. He was being eaten alive by depression, and not one person among his many thousands of followers appears to have ever intervened nor sounded an alarm.

And that last part is very fucking common. Furries don't give a shit; they get on social media to jerk themselves off and hotbox each other's farts. Every furry chatroom you might wander into is guaranteed to have at least one person who's either a mental case or rapidly becoming one, somebody who spends all day desperately trying to get some attention -- any attention -- anything that will make the pain go away for a little bit. That person is always there, always raising every "this person might fucking kill themselves and/or others" red flag, and they're always treated like an epileptic whom everybody else just steps over and pretends not to notice.

I've seen it far too many times. Nobody in the fandom cares about anybody else beyond their sexytimes value. A massive proportion of furries are mentally ill, furry culture aggravates those illnesses, and one of the unspoken rules of being in the fandom is that you're not supposed to notice.
The furry fandom has a massive bystander effect and there's multiple reasons for it, but I have seen that exact thing happen on so many Discord groups and other groups. Another reason for that effect where furries will talk around the crazies is the fact that a lot of group jannies don't do their job and just ban the guy who makes a scene. As many furries want to avoid confrontations at all possible costs, nobody says anything out of fear of getting banned from the group as people slowly leave.

Then there's the fact that many of the saner furries took the lessons from people who white knight others online (including CWC) and decided to simply avoid dumpster fires like that. They have exactly zero reason to give a shit about some random furry's mental breakdown, and nobody thinks that this person is going to be the next Randy Stair. To them the worst thing that could happen is the furry who keeps shitting up the chat goes from suicide baiting to actually doing a flip and by then it's not their problem. Furries are also very non confrontational in some manners, so this results in people being ghosted without even being told to "get some help dude".

Why are people even concerned with the pronouns of a murderer? Typical priorities of those involved.
It's like when Randy Stair shot up his job. There are people out there who value identity politics as their religion to the point of worrying about misgendering a man who shot up his coworkers. Nevermind the fact that he killed some people and that his thoughts of being a girl had nothing to do with why he did it, or the fact that he was a delusional fuck mad that he couldn't live his life as a cartoon character/YouTube star. If anything those thoughts were the symptoms of that underlying problem.

The same applies to this (and to a lesser extent the STEM academy shooting, though troon shit was a direct factor in that). A dog and random person are now dead, nobody gives a flying fuck about what pronouns the killer used.
 
What's interesting is, this seems like a case of 1st Degree Murder. Which, according to Wikipedia, is a Capital Crime in Neveda:


"The murder was committed while the person was engaged, alone or with others, in the commission of, or an attempt to commit or flight after committing or attempting to commit, any robbery, arson in the first degree, burglary, invasion of the home or kidnapping in the first degree, and the person charged:
Killed or attempted to kill the person murdered; or
Knew or had reason to know that life would be taken or lethal force used."

Will we get our first furries executed by the state?
 
It's like when Randy Stair shot up his job. There are people out there who value identity politics as their religion to the point of worrying about misgendering a man who shot up his coworkers. Nevermind the fact that he killed some people and that his thoughts of being a girl had nothing to do with why he did it, or the fact that he was a delusional fuck mad that he couldn't live his life as a cartoon character/YouTube star. If anything those thoughts were the symptoms of that underlying problem.

The same applies to this (and to a lesser extent the STEM academy shooting, though troon shit was a direct factor in that). A dog and random person are now dead, nobody gives a flying fuck about what pronouns the killer used.
I've seen similar shit happen in Something Awful's transgender community. They were up in arms at one point about some guy who raped his infant son, went to jail, trooned out while in jail, started demanding special treatment and surgery and hormones and placement in a women's prison, then killed himself when those demands were turned down. The other troons thought this was a tragedy -- not the part where he raped a baby, but the part where he couldn't get to live out his pretty princess fantasies while in the slammer.
 
we got another couple from the fandom who murdered and robbed a stranger


Thank you for ruining my day.

Between this and Simba shooting up cops, at what point are people going to wake up and realize the whole furry fandom is deranged? At least they could take a page after the troons and off themselves instead of others.
 
The furry fandom has a massive bystander effect and there's multiple reasons for it, but I have seen that exact thing happen on so many Discord groups and other groups. Another reason for that effect where furries will talk around the crazies is the fact that a lot of group jannies don't do their job and just ban the guy who makes a scene. As many furries want to avoid confrontations at all possible costs, nobody says anything out of fear of getting banned from the group as people slowly leave.

I dunno, furries love confrontation and drama. There's a big target location error though in what they're mad about.

Misgendering? Attack. Zoophilia? Hit the snooze button on that one.
 
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Why are people even concerned with the pronouns of a murderer? Typical priorities of those involved.
The concept behind it is a combination of two ideas.
1. Trans people shouldn’t have to “earn” their pronouns through good behavior
2. A person being a miserable abhorrent disgusting piece of shit doesn’t make them less or not trans. Acknowledging that horrible people can be trans (using the wrong pronouns implies that they’re not) is important. Letting horrific trans people exist and not just “good ones” is preferable to disowning them.
 
The concept behind it is a combination of two ideas.
1. Trans people shouldn’t have to “earn” their pronouns through good behavior
2. A person being a miserable abhorrent disgusting piece of shit doesn’t make them less or not trans. Acknowledging that horrible people can be trans (using the wrong pronouns implies that they’re not) is important. Letting horrific trans people exist and not just “good ones” is preferable to disowning them.
This is a good rationale to have but I disagree as to why furries do it. They don't want to be seen as transphobic, even when the person has done something reprehensible. Unfortunately, furries tend to act like trans people can't do any wrong. This is going to cause a fit of mass cognitive dissonance when Alt-Furry tards start making fun of the tranny murderer. Commie furries will then tard out and try to defend their ilk while trying to figure out whether or not trans people really can be evil or not. Guarantee it.
 
The concept behind it is a combination of two ideas.
1. Trans people shouldn’t have to “earn” their pronouns through good behavior
2. A person being a miserable abhorrent disgusting piece of shit doesn’t make them less or not trans. Acknowledging that horrible people can be trans (using the wrong pronouns implies that they’re not) is important. Letting horrific trans people exist and not just “good ones” is preferable to disowning them.
With say the STEM Academy shooter I can understand why the pronouns would be a big deal there. One of the core motives that led to the mass shooting was a FtM trans teen feeling victimized by bullies, so that directly has something to do with it. But Randy Stair for example was mostly crossdressing in private when he did the shooting (and had disassociation/identity issues), and the female here who was arrested both didn't pass and was legally still female.

Still from what I've seen the trans community tends to ghost people who give the community a bad name. This was extremely evident with Chloe Sagal and Narcissa/Cosmo Wright, and it's also seen with Chris Chan. There's a reason that troons have revised Chris Chan's history to be a bullied trans woman/egg and the worst trolling victim on the internet, instead of as an incel manchild who egged on people who got a thrill out of fucking with him. They don't like Chris Chan and wish nobody would bring him up again but they also will use his history to try to dunk on the trolls. When Chloe Sagal joined the 41% they literally did just that as well and blamed the Kiwi Farms trolls on the suicide instead of mental issues. With this and some other notable troon rage incidents, they'll likely correct people who misgender them before writing an essay about how you're a transphobic bigot and not all trans people are like this.
 
The concept behind it is a combination of two ideas.
1. Trans people shouldn’t have to “earn” their pronouns through good behavior
2. A person being a miserable abhorrent disgusting piece of shit doesn’t make them less or not trans. Acknowledging that horrible people can be trans (using the wrong pronouns implies that they’re not) is important. Letting horrific trans people exist and not just “good ones” is preferable to disowning them.
Except that in the real world, nobody fucking cares about pronouns except for crazy people and fetishists. This shit isn't about "existing," it's about being coddled and controlling people.
 
Why are people even concerned with the pronouns of a murderer? Typical priorities of those involved.

Because it steers the conversation and realization away from the fact that these people befriended, liked, followed people that turned into cold blooded murderers and animal abusers.

It's a Furry Family Tradition to not deal with things in rational ways.
 
I'm pretty sure that line about pronouns is about the person who tipped the police off, not Dillard.

"my friend's pronouns are he/him"

Damn, you're right. Apologies for spreading false info. Was MATI and had tunnel-vision because I'm used to trannies and furries being one in the same. 👼 Though, since they hung around with trannies, I think it's safe to assume the murderers soaked up some of their exceptional essence.
 
This is leading to some great satire of furries and the generally deranged.

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