Yeah absolutely. The DID community online is fucking disgusting and essentially just the same people from "kin" tumblr. People who actually have DID likely will never make it public like these idiots- it's caused by trauma, so most people even if they have been diagnosed and are being treated for it wouldn't speak about it in detail, just like any other mental disorder. Idk?????
It's very unlikely they would make it a public thing like she and others on youtube do. It's a disorder in a way built to create function in dysfunction. Touting out alters and spewing out the abuse stories doesn't fit in a disorder that supposedly is created to hide abuse and protect the "host" from knowledge of its existence as well as putting on a healthy face for society.
Chloe without a doubt plays into Nan's sneeze fetish shit by trying to sneeze cutely. Nan was busy pretending to dissociate but the sneeze got her dick chemically inflated clit too hard to keep playing up to it.
Also find this video pretty laughable. Nan treats her alters like characters in a shitty visual novel. Who the fuck has time to draw and subtitle their mental illness? And to no ones surprise she's a weeb.
Switch, as in go into a different character, no. She didn't start pretending to be a bloke or belt out a shit accent. Her personality flopped, although it wasn't instantaneous like in her videos, more mood-swing-like. That little distant stare she does, however, happened frequently. Nothing came of it though, it just looked like she was zoning out.
If she's bipolar or has depression the dissociating you saw could be just daydreaming. She could also have a dissociative disorder, but be creating the theatrical "switch" part of it for the attention.
The thing is, even with bipolar disorder, you don't just generally tell people you have it other than very specific circumstances. Like DID, this is a part of the disorder. When you're manic, you think you're healthy, no one could convince you otherwise. When you're spiraling down into depression, you might seek help by admitting you have a problem and finding support or getting prescriptions that you tossed during mania.
Also from her stories, it seems like she sought this diagnosis out. I can tell you first-hand that anything I've ever been diagnosed with my response internally and to the doctor was "You're wrong, I don't have that."
Chloe without a doubt plays into Nan's sneeze fetish shit by trying to sneeze cutely. Nan was busy pretending to dissociate but the sneeze got her dick chemically inflated clit too hard to keep playing up to it.
No one pointed it out in this thread, but not only does Nan has a sneezing fetish, her alters are based on her sneezing fetish ocs. Shasta and Jeremy in particular.
And Jeremy. (Archive 1, 2). These was drawn before her first video about him. Jeremy wasn't her oc, but he was based on a 'real life' person (so a friend she made up). Pictures were drawn in May 2017 and her first video on Jeremy was created in October of the same year.
No one pointed it out in this thread, but not only does Nan has a sneezing fetish, her alters are based on her sneezing fetish ocs. Shasta and Jeremy in particular.
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And Jeremy. (Archive 1, 2). These was drawn before her first video about him. Jeremy wasn't her oc, but he was based on a 'real life' person (so a friend she made up). Pictures were drawn in May 2017 and her first video on Jeremy was created in October of the same year.
I find the sneezing thing too gross to really dig into deeply so I'm glad someone else can. There seems to be a lot of 'cub' shit with Nan too and I draw the line at digging through images with pedo undertones. Really not surprised to see her alters are literal OCs though. She's insufferable.
Something about her art, sneezing and other eyebrow-raisers aside, makes me grimace just by skimming past it.
They say you can tell an artist's fetishes from just looking at a mundane piece by them, and you can see it in how Nan draws those ungodly noses on those goblin mother fuckers.
Why do all of Nan's characters look like Schmendrick the Magician?
It's a really out there fetish. Then again the idea of being sick feeds into their whole small/weak/sickly/am baby deal they have going on rather nicely, I can't think of otherwise why it would be a thing. Unless Nan is reeeeeally into snot.
I'm so happy to find I'm not alone in this. I started looking into her a long time ago and found many things you guys have, along with a couple more I haven't seen mentioned. The thing on spotify isn't all that incriminating I don't guess, but it made me really start to doubt her. You can see on the playlists that she has for the 4 different alters that all the songs on all the playlists are added on the same days and times, like she just sat down and made the whole thing at once and added more songs to each later on the same days. I would think if she were real the alters would at least come out and add on their own sometimes. Still, not great but with everything else. . . The only other thing I have is an edition to her online begging. She mentions in an Instagram post a few days ago that she almost became homeless recently. Even if it was just from a move gone wrong, according to sites like social blade she makes anywhere between 40k to 100k a MONTH. Not including all other revenue sources. Each live stream gets her tens of thousands of dollars a stream. She still needs to post about homelessness and donations for a 7k visa though. That money hungry attitude alone makes her a shit person. I was homeless for almost 10 years and anyone who could say things like that and make that kind of money would have their throat cut on the street. That's all I can think of for now. I will dig harder. We can take her down. Also, I forgot the Dr.Grande video all but calls her a fake. That's not how her minions in the comments see it, but it's the reality of it.
It looks like Chloe just posted a new video this afternoon. All About Alters: Part 1
I haven’t watched the whole thing, just the first minute maybe and it reminded me something I’ve noticed before and I just had to come and mention it. All the books she carefully has lined up and displayed on psychology and various psych related topics look brand new and like they never been touched. Every single one. Not a scuff or a blemish or so much as a visible crinkle in the spine. Either she’s the most delicate reader in the world, or she hasn’t even opened one so much as to give it quick flip through.
Obviously, my money is on the later. They’ve clearly been purchased and strategically positioned as “set pieces” so the viewer will believe she’s very dedicated and well read and psychology and mental health education. I’ve noticed this in other videos; carefully, lovingly placed books that she takes long, lingering shots of or are placed right behind wherever she’s positioned herself to film. Almost always looking very much new and untouched.
Ah, yes, the old taking yourself hostage under threat of suicide unless everyone else complies with everything you say, completely unexamined or unquestioned routine.
That little tactic is wearing so thin. But they’ll keep using it because it works.
Doubtful she's behind it since the petition is like a year old and Chloe has only recently gotten her own thread. It gave me a chuckle anyway, whichever sped it is.
I've noticed quite a lot of new forum users appearing in this thread with brand new accounts, only posting in this thread - care to share where you all have come from? Has Chloe or her 'fans' started sperging about the farms somewhere? Share the milk.
The new video:
I'm only 7 mins through, but she mentions that she's deleted her original 'All about alters' video - I don't suppose anyone here has here shit archived? If she's starting to delete stuff then no doubt there are inconsistencies she's looking to hide. So far this video is clearly overcompensating for being called out for faking. She says "if you're worried that you're faking - then you're probably not faking because people who know they're faking know they're doing it and so aren't worried about it". U fockin wat m8? Also the black lipstick is fucking atrocious - its awful at the best of times but if you don't have super white teeth then please just toss that shit. It looks like she's matching her eye shadow colour to her teeth.
The petition is years old and Chloe is far from the first person to cry about the farms.
I've archived but can't upload with the site in the state it is so I'll just link for now.
The first minute is Chloe rambling about her channel anniversary and can be skipped.
She goes on to talk about her littles and seems to be backtracking to her protective stance after her performance with Anthony. She claims she's deleted an old video where she named her littles now that she's faced criticism. The fans who have been warning her she'd let names slip for months didn't count.
She talks for a while about 'ego states' and repeats her 'personality forms at seven to nine' spiel. She also states that alters are fragmented pieces of consciousness which would lead one to think that alters should be very similar rather than having different races, religions, ages, etc. I've covered that in a longer section under the spoilers.
Interestingly, she claims that three factors are required for DID to develop:
1. Repeated trauma before age seven
2. The ability to dissociate to a high level
3. Disorganised attachment to primary caregivers
I already doubt her trauma based on her Tumblr posts where she says she was never assaulted. At 03:27 she states "There needs to be repeated trauma. This trauma does not have to be abuse but in a lot of cases it is."
She grew up in fucking Colchester not Syria. If not abuse, what other repeated trauma has she had?
I can't comment on her ability to dissociate to a high level.
She has a pretty solid connection with her parents based on her social media. Her Mother is very supportive of her and has taken her in every time she has been kicked out of university or had problems with landlords. She comes from a fairly privileged background and seems to have good family support.
Based on her own definition of what three factors are required for DID to develop, she doesn't qualify.
She then talks about why alters are different from each other in terms of age, race, religion. Her explanation is that alters are just as real as any other person and should be treated as individuals. Which contradicts with her earlier statement that alters are 'ego states' and fragmented parts of a singular personality. Doesn't seem conducive to therapy led integration either. Allowing alters to have their own lives isn't going to lead to integration.
She also claims that alters come from what the child was watching on TV. So don't worry, she isn't racist. She's allowed to dress up and reenact Red Man Red because she saw it on TV once.
She also claims that alters are made by the subconscious not the conscious brain. Makes you wonder why Nan was able to design her own alters as OCs months before they showed up in her system.
She talks about amnesia and confirms that when one alter is fronting you won't have any memory of what has happened while another alter has been fronting. Yet she has hundreds of videos where she has perfect memory after a switch as discussed earlier in thread.
She also talks about how alters are there to protect the child through childhood and into adulthood. She essentially confirms that she can't remember any trauma having happened to her. She talks about how people who are diagnosed with DID often think they're faking the condition because they can't remember the abuse which just screams of the 1980s DID scandal.
Her therapist has 100% convinced her she was abused to make a profit as far as I'm concerned at this point. We already know The Pottergate Centre is a money making scheme.
At 09:46 when talking about sexual abuse she puts up "trying not to trigger myself" on screen hinting again that she was sexually abused despite all the other hints that she was not.
12:07 "DID is not a personality disorder." I'm guessing she's pissed off we've been speculating about HPD.
12:14 "These voices are kind of like you hearing your inner voice..." so like thinking? Like having thoughts? She is just having thoughts?
13:08 "A lot of systems have lists of baby names that alters can go through until they find a name that they feel like that's the name that I identify with most. [...]You don't name your alters. They're not characters. They're not a roleplaying fantasy. Alters are fragmented parts of a traumatised child's mind."
She states that she knows people with DID in high ranking positions. She claims that people with DID are lawyers, doctors, surgeons. What happens if an alter switches mid-surgery? Or does she mean that their alters are surgeons in the inner world? DID is debilitating, Chloe. You can't be a surgeon if you think Lapis Lazuli lives in your head and controls your body. Is that oppression?
She wraps up by crying about WuFlu. At 17:22 she includes a random clip of her dissociating and says she'll 'sign off' because she jumped back into filming before she was ready. She recovers quickly and does her sign out in a perfectly normal voice again. Could have quite easily done without the 'dissociating' clip but that's Chloe.
She said she had a new fave YouTuber and said it was Chloe then went on to describe her videos and DID. What made me lol was when she went into Chile's non human alter and how she was "hovering in a forest repeating a phrase over and over." Before she realized who she was. I think he's friend and boyfriend felt like it was stupid and unbelievable.
I've noticed quite a lot of new forum users appearing in this thread with brand new accounts, only posting in this thread - care to share where you all have come from? Has Chloe or her 'fans' started sperging about the farms somewhere? Share the tard cum.
I'm curious as well. She doesn't seem like the type to have an autistic "hatedom" like Enter or Wings, so it's kind of jarring to see that half the people in this thread are newfags.
I can't believe anyone believes this. I've known about her for 6 months. I can say that it's very clear she's acting. It's very clear she's inconsistent with details. It's very clear she's chasing views by being as extreme as possible.
22 alters? Not congruent with established case studies? A fucking new alter because of a YouTube video? Give me a fucking break. This isn't a criminal court of law. Nobody needs to prove she's faking beyond a reasonable doubt. Preponderance of evidence? Yes, it is certainly more likely than not she's faking it. Clear and convincing evidence? Yes, there's enough to reasonably conclude she's full of shit.
Anyone defending her and people like her as "educating" are either so far up their inclusive, oh-so-special asses that they could no longer be called a reasonable person or mentally ill themselves engaging in faux solidarity or are low IQ simps.
I hate seeing people give these idiotic attention-seeking liars the benefit of the doubt.
I'm curious as well. She doesn't seem like the type to have an autistic "hatedom" like Enter or Wings, so it's kind of jarring to see that half the people in this thread are newfags.
People have been waiting for this thread. Chloe's channel got thrown into recommended and shoved in front of an audience that, for some insane reason, believe her stories. It's been festering for a while. It was eventually going to turn some heads and get people to join the farms, and I know that there are people who are lurking on this thread in particular. Plus, in comparison to the rest of the beauty parlor she's far more interesting right now, why bother getting in on stale munchie malk when there's fresh shit right here?
People have been waiting for this thread. Chloe's channel got thrown into recommended and shoved in front of an audience that, for some insane reason, believe her stories. It's been festering for a while. It was eventually going to turn some heads and get people to join the farms, and I know that there are people who are lurking on this thread in particular. Plus, in comparison to the rest of the beauty parlor she's far more interesting right now, why bother getting in on stale munchie malk when there's fresh shit right here?
That, and if you question Chloe's DID or call her a fake on, say, Twitter, you'll get attacked by her stans, politically correct white girls, and other DID larpers. KF, LC, GG, and the more gossipy parts of reddit are the only places to have the conversation. And a lot of people were introduced to Chloe through her drama with Trish.
I'm curious as well. She doesn't seem like the type to have an autistic "hatedom" like Enter or Wings, so it's kind of jarring to see that half the people in this thread are newfags.
A guess a few people, like myself, have been waiting for an active thread on her. I’ve not exactly had a reason to make an account before now but it seems like a good time, given that it’s probably more active than threads on the other sites.