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Sweetpeaa said:
I'll tell you what guys, I have a sore throat. Went to the grocery store 3 days ago for some essentials. I'll just say: FUCK.
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Don't be scared. In your case it might "just" be a sore throat. Keep in contact with someone you know IRL and check in with them twice a day. Check your temperature and call 911 if you have trouble breathing or feel like you need urgent medical attention. Actually, just like any other day. Call your GP or a nurse's hotline.
 
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Drain Todger said:
India is fucking doomed. Bat SARS sheds in feces. Widespread open defecation means they're FUCKED.

If your tap water has high coliform counts from other people's shit, and you drink it, and it has SARS-CoV-2 in it, you're FUCKED.

jamanetwork.com

Detection of SARS-CoV-2 in Different Types of Clinical Specimens

This study describes results of PCR and viral RNA testing for SARS-CoV-2 in bronchoalveolar fluid, sputum, feces, blood, and urine specimens from patients with COVID-19 infection in China to identify possible means of non-respiratory transmission.
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Explains the lack of 'Microsoft' security calls telling me my computer has a virus.
 
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Drain Todger said:
Not. Even. Close.

Yes, it causes pneumonia, ARDS, and lung fibrosis.

You know what else it causes?

Myocarditis and pericarditis:

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Cardiac Involvement in a Patient With Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

This case report describes the presentation of acute myocardial inflammation in a patient with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) who recovered from influenzalike syndrome and developed fatigue and signs and symptoms of heart failure a week after upper respiratory tract symptoms.
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Abnormal liver levels:


Acute kidney injury:

www.nephjc.com

ACUTE KIDNEY INJURY — NephJC

As with all the other pages on COVID-19 here on NephJC, this page on AKI & the discussion are not meant to be treatment recommendations based on sound evidence. The data we have so far is mostly anecdotal: stories, a few case series and the occasional published study (sometimes not peer re
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Cytokine storm:


Bacterial co-infection:

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Outbreak of novel coronavirus (COVID-19): What is the role of radiologists?

• Novel coronavirus (COVID-19)-infected pneumonia usually manifests as bilateral ground-glass opacities in the lung periphery on chest CT scans. • Role of radiologists includes not only early detection of lung abnormality, but also suggestion of disease severity, potential progression to acute...
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And neurological issues:

www.psychologytoday.com

The Surprising Neuroscience of COVID-19

Effects on the central nervous system might contribute to respiratory failure.
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The idea that COVID-19 is "just a respiratory virus" is a deadly misconception.

Do not underestimate the pathological complexity of betacoronaviruses.
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Personally I believe you. But at this stage in the game, what is most relevant to our collective process of moving forward, is focusing on who it KILLS, who it DOES NOT KILL, and who it sort of kills.

And with that, how can we balance the need to keep countries economically stable and the workforce alive and healthy, and the need to quarantine?

If the condition interferes with the involuntary breathing reflexes in some, that is a nice tidbit of information, but for now, just count them among the dead.

I believe you that this virus can cause long term damage. But the data is not in on any of this stuff.
 
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Interestingly the UK new cases looks like it might have hit the peak of the normal curve

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https://archive.vn/o7S5H


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Looks bad, right? Well turn off everything but new cases and you get this

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We'll have to wait a few days because it might just be noise in the data but it might also be we've already hit Peak Corona and it's all downhill from here.
 
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Rudy Russo said:
Yeah, screw that. Watch services from home. It sucks for the older people because for alot of them church services is all the have but its a deathtrap now.
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"Yeah you could stay home and watch it on your computer or you can come to church and you get the chance to meet all your friends and maybe meet God in person in a couple of weeks."
 
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Sweetpeaa said:
I'll tell you what guys, I have a sore throat. Went to the grocery store 3 days ago for some essentials. I'll just say: FUCK.
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To what has already been said, it's also a very common side effect of too dry air or acidic reflux. Even coughing is of the latter. As long as you don't get a fever or develop other stuff, it's probably nothing.

Also consider you're probably psyching yourself up into having something right now. If you were careful at the stores and aren't usually a party animal or something, you won't have this.

E: Also many people are wearing masks or makeshift masks right now. If you don't wash them out often or wear them for a while, you get a lot of nasty shit in them that thrives on the warmth and moisture in front of your nose and mouth. Growing your own little culture there is quite possible so always cook them out.
 
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RodgerDodger said:
the big tip-off seems to be sudden loss of sense of smell and taste.
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Yup. My doctor was telling me this morning about someone he knew in Southern California. She had exactly those symptoms at the start. Her case wasn't too bad but her husband had it much rougher. Said he felt like all his bones were breaking. Was given opoids, pain was so bad.


Added: A very interesting article about the failure of China's system for tracking contagious diseases. A Dr. Ai Fen is mentioned. She has disappeared after criticizing the way Beijing has handled the virus.


Archive (I did it!): https://archive.vn/6xD5b
 
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One of my friends was going to run a couple errands and asked if I needed anything from the grocery. On the way back he called me and said that just as he got the car loaded he started seeing spots and sweating, and asked if I still wanted my groceries. Of course I still wanted the food, I can't binge from stress without it, but aaaaaaaaaarrrgh! 😭 Dammit Universe! Nothing is allowed to happen to that lil' shit. We're practically siblings!
 
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AmpleApricots said:
When I was so sick beginning of March when I started getting better after about a week and a half the first thing I noticed is how things are smelling, I still remember my confusion about this. I don't really remember losing my sense of smell and taste though but I was so sick that I might've simply not noticed.
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I couldn't smell very well either but I thought it was due to a sinus infection.
 
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For everyone freaking out about this, please remember that for the vast majority of people, this virus runs it's course like a common flu and you end up being just as fine afterwards. Lots of people don't even have any symptoms and basically every specialist on the matter says right now that there's likely a huge number of unknown cases that'll likely always stay unknown because it bothered them so little and passed with as little as a sniffle if anything. It's very easy to think this is captain trips from the media and the death numbers, and it is serious and bad but even if you catch it, you're very, very, very likely to survive. There are a lot more dangerous things you are also likely to catch. You're mostly afraid of the unknown right now and that's understandable, but remember that this shall pass. Also don't listen to the doomers either that tell you that having the clothing store down the street closed for a week or three is basically the end of civilized society. I remember "experts" over here in germany speaking about apocalyptic recession numbers in the double digits, now they're down to a bit lower than the global recession at the end of the 00s. A lot of people with power and money are also taking advantage of the fear right now for their own purposes to reshuffle the deck. Never forget that.
 
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