Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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This is what bugs me most about a lot of these ultra-religious types, the megachurch, big bucks crowd specifically: they'll preach this and that and the other all day, but only from a church. The concept of "a church is not a building" is anathema to them. If you can't get everyone together, how will you hit them up for money? You can't do service through an internet stream, how will you get the money!‽?
They're very unimaginative.

"And that concludes the Lord's Prayer, Amen everyone.

Now let's pound through some superchats:

RighteousGuy69 says 'Peace be with you' for two dollars. And also with you, Righteous.

For ten NavySeal1488 would like to remind us that new SARS is God's punishment for liberalism. That's a little spicy, Seal, but not to worry, God loves every penny."
 
I agree. HIPAA is very serious business in the US. If you so much as look up at a monitor at a nursing station because you were bored, the staff at most hospitals will shoo you away. "Oh no, you can't look at that! That has other patients' private health info!"

I'm not surprised there's no footage coming out of US hospitals.
Even seeing other patients' names when scrolling through to find your patient (for instance, if your patient has the last name starting with S, seeing all the other patients in the filing cabinet with S [if they aren't yours]) is considered violating HIPPA. Oddly, however, you can't sue someone for violating it, at least ime.
 
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So we got a fucking retard from madrid that after being told he needed to be hospitalized decided to run for it like crazy and managed to get to fucking MALAGA before being detained. No one fucking knows why, he's getting sued and certainly fined. People from malaga are doing all sorts of jokes about it. Honestly you might think he was trying to escape the community out of fear, which would be stupid but can't be ruled out, but he got to MALAGA, like, that's a long fucking way away mate. He had plenty of closer choices, he even passed many on the way there, cops just tracked his car and sent news to each other till he stoped and then they detained him, so they took it calmly, he wasn't persecuted or anything.

We also got a total Karen in Navarra that decided to get into fights with everyone on the supermarket 8 days in a row and the 8th day the employees decided to call the cops. And it turned out closest patrol was the army, so she got tackled to the floor by two motherfuckikg marines. Kek.

On sadder note, first active armyman to die in spain (some reservists had died already but this is the first in active.) Twas a matter of time, really, but still sucks.

Also, we got 2 concejales (local political charges) that decided to party, against regulations and got caught. I haven't found where they were so I don't know what their political party is but they seemed lefties, either way people are clamoring for their resignation and with good reason, you can't ask people to stay home then act like you got a priviledge, they need to go, period.

Also Vox just tried to call for spain to be dissolved and give them (who let's remember are a minor party that doesn't have even a quarter of the votes) all the power, like Orban. Yeah... That's fucking retarded. They're basically being laughed at. Ehm... What did they just smoke?! Either way it won't work but wtf kinda nonesense is that Vox mah dude you were doing it better than the PP all you had to do is NOT FUCK IT UP! Oh wait there it is again, asking spanish politicians not to fuck it up.

And after what I explained @Male Idiot of why Spain is... different. Let me ellaborate.

The thing with spain is, it was unified mostly due to the Catholic Kings knowing the only way to survive foreign powers was unification. It is less of a country and more of a feudal defensive pact. Every region has its tradition, every region has its culture, every region has its language, and our regions have spent their entire existence fighting each other.

Cadiz for example was founded by the phoenicians, and has strong roots in traiding and naval construction, it's always been the least religious area of spain and indeed Carnaval, our most priced tradition, is devoted to Momo, GREEK god of sarcasm, but not even the inquisition could stop it. Cadiz was the most progresive area in republican times, and is the most open always.

Seville, our close neighbors and community capital, is the most RELIGIOUS bent. They were the capital of castille in the early days, before which thet were the capital of al andalus, they had the america's port, and as such they always had the missionaries running around, they're strong catholics and yet, in fact the church they have the most in common with is the orthodox, as their missionaries were lowly men and they shared a lot of culture with the colonies and they are the strongest penitents. So while they claim to be catholics they have little to do with the vaticans, and many would consider them heretical.

Yet Burgos is the real catholic capital of spain, that's where the chief bishop is. It is also where the most strong monarchic tradition exists, they're basically feudalists even today, and are so heretical their bishops have a tendency to critizice the vatican for being too soft, and at multiple points consider becoming a second pope.

Then we have catalonia, the area that had the most jews, and the strongest french roots (indeed their language is just the bastard son of spanish and french), they're a slimy, commerce minded, anarcho capitalistic region with heavy industrial focus and no regard for workers rights since most of their workers are andalusian.

Meanwhile their neighbors in basque country are hiperreligious, hypernationalistic mostly rural scottish-like brutes with no mind to progress and their own tradition, they were the last bastion of european paganism and they damned remember it.

And then we have the two castilles, castille-leon and castille-la mancha, they're actually very similar, being semi-rural and suburban areas, with a guild-focused past and strong architecture and metalurgy, and that's why their entire existance is basically a giant dick measuring contest as to which is the best castille. I'm not even kidding here.

Meanwhile Galicia is just a forested area with plenty of fishing and horrid weather and mountains most similar to norway in general culture. Mostly wanting to be left alone in their little corner.

And Murcia is where the most openly fascistic culture lives, being in the odd spot of being the only mediterranean coastal area of spain with little commerce, they're fully rural, set in their ways, extreme right wing and indeed most similar to hungary.

Granada, their direct neighbors, is where the moors stuck the most. And while the inquisition took care of the muslims, it left them the weird mannerisms, fruit based agricultural mindset, weird architecture, and tendency towards moorish culture, specially in the arts.

Do you see where this is going?! Spain ain't a country. It's the geographical equivalent of frankenstein's monster! It shouldn't exist! ... so why does it? Well it's simple really. Just look at the catalonian's plight. Recently they tried to break away. What happened? Spain told them if they did they would have a border like everyone else (meaning customs) and Merkel basically told them they would be her slaves. Which spain is but thanks to poorer regions they don't fuck us as much as they'd fuck them individually. So they had to reconsider.

Every time spain's thought of breaking, it's found france and germany fucking SALIVATING at the thought. If spain doesn't stick together, it dies, it's that simple. And that's the duct tape that's founded our brotherhood, survival.

Now. Combine this with our strong bend towards individual action and against centralization, and you can see how spaniards simply cannot and will not agree. Fuck, most of our regions were founded by knights that disagreed with their nobles and decided to take action on their own, most famously the Cid, and indeed the Cid best defines spanish spirit, he rebelled against his own king, but never against his country. And so despite our lack of agreement, that's not to say we won't help each other.

I think our actions in this crisis proves we'll happily give our lives for each other, our medics are doing just that right now. Tell cadiz catalonia is getting invaded and we'll be there knife in hand with no plan of action ready to help.

But centralization though? Nah. You don't give spaniards an organized standardized plan, you tell them what's going on and they'll figure what to do. I think the letters by hitler about the blue shirst best define this. Read the "legacy" segment on this wikipedia article: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Division
And you can see similar sentiment expressed by the russians about our partisans and forces in exile, and even by the brits, just not as clearly put in official manner. Because that's just how spain is. Spaniards can't really follow orders blindly to save their lifes, not in the long term, bark orders and they'll follow you until they start making questions, but once they do, they'll find alternatives. And so long as you learn to accept that, not a single inch of ground will be given. Not a single loss will be accepted. But don't tell us to do it "your way", that just doesn't work.
 
France reports 7,578 new cases of coronavirus and a record of 499 new deaths, raising total to 52,128 cases and 3,523 dead
 
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Charlie Kirk has a ton of dumb takes in general but this is especially stupid. And I'm speaking from the perspective of a Catholic, an actual person of faith, btw.
  • It sucks that people can't go to church, but it's just not safe. I feel like God would very much understand the present circumstances and wouldn't want people recklessly endangering themselves in His name.
  • There are already way too many dumbfucks, especially megachurches, who are making Christians look bad and recklessly endangering their parishes by flaunting social distancing rules. Nobody should be having large gatherings now, churches are not exempt from this rule. Faith will not protect you from a virus.
  • Lmfao at this dude thinking that we can do "socially distanced" Easter. Has he ever been to an Easter service? That's when all of the twice a year Christians come out of the woodwork and the churches get fucking packed. At my church (which is pretty large) there are several Easter services spaced an hour apart and we still have to use the school's gym as a makeshift church to fit everyone. And even then it's still jam-packed in both the main church and the gym. Social distancing is simply impossible, even for regular church services.
  • I know some places are offering streaming of church services, which while it isn't as effective as the real deal is still a good solution. Obviously there are parts you miss out on (like the Eucharist in Catholic Mass) but it's still worth it. Also, I heard that my pastor is doing one-on-one meetings with people who want Reconciliation or other sacraments. I'm sure other priests and pastors are offering their own services on a one-on-one basis too.
  • Also I'd love to see a potential lolsuit go to court. What makes him think churches are exempt from social distancing orders?

I agree with you in all ways. But the problem is he likely will win in court. Freedom to practice religion and Freedom of Association and Assembly are enshrined as our highest laws. The laws directed at the government, not the people. “The Government Shall Not Do...!” A lot of the Governors are assuming authoritarian powers that they have never been granted nor would they be so granted. Wildly unconstitutional powers. While an argument can be made that in the face of global emergency some sacrifices must be made, at the end of the day those books must be squared. The Governors who exceeded their authority must be punished, to prevent the creeping totalitarianism.
 
Number of deaths worldwide due to coronavirus reaches 40,000

 
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Sensing the time of humans is coming to a close and the age of the goat is dawning, mountain goats have started to roam the streets in Wales




https://web.archive.org/web/2020033...es-goats-video-llandudno-uk-lockdown-covid-19

Goat video, because mountain goats are awesome

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USA

Curious how much your state and county is social distancing? How you compare with others? This massive location-tracking project company claims to have that data for the entire USA, and to rank locations based on how much movement has declined since the Wu-Flu hit. The nation as a whole has decreased mobility more than 40%. (archive)

Top 5
1: Washington DC
2: Nevada
3: Massachusetts
4: New Jersey
5: New York

Bottom 5
47: Hawaii
48: Iowa
49: Montana
50: Arkansas
51: Wyoming


Oh boy, I'm soo happy that at the end of this we're gonna have slave trackers for all of us "citizens" because people can't fucking stop themselves from rubbing their faces onto public sufaces and have the manners of chimpanzees.

I can't wait for 2 to 3 years down the line where we look at all the "solutions" being implemented the same way we did the 9/11 responses circa 2006.
 
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They're very unimaginative.

"And that concludes the Lord's Prayer, Amen everyone.

Now let's pound through some superchats:

RighteousGuy69 says 'Peace be with you' for two dollars. And also with you, Righteous.

For ten NavySeal1488 would like to remind us that new SARS is God's punishment for liberalism. That's a little spicy, Seal, but not to worry, God loves every penny."
Baked Alaska comeback (part five) when??
 
At least 9/11 was over quicker and didn't result in this insane level of shutdown and "social distancing." This seems endless.

We will see an end to this, or ar least an acclimatization. This seems very much like a war, and historically speaking wars are not quick.
I like to cope with incredibly uncertain times such as these by reminding myself that humanity has persisted through much, much worse than this. We still live in a time where we are better-equipped for this than any time before. Doesn't necessarily mean we're well off, but staying indoors is preferable to having your gangrenous limbs being sawed off with no anesthetic ala the Civil War or literally drowning in stinking mud in a field in France. I'd rather live now than through the Black Death or when untreatable, wasting tuberculosis came knocking. This isn't fun and people are suffering but we who are not sick can benefit from a little perspective. Helps me, at least.
 
Four zookeepers have decided to self-isolate on the grounds of a wildlife sanctuary to make sure the animals are properly cared for during the coronavirus crisis.

That’s really cool, good for them. According to the article there 1,200 birds and mammals who reside in the sanctuary so it’s certainly a big job to take care of all them. It must be really rewarding work, though. I’d love to take care of animals.
It's completely off-topic so I'll keep it brief (for my paragraph-typing ass anyways), but if you're genuinely interested in doing something like that, look up wildlife sanctuaries in your area and offer to volunteer helping take care of the animals. If they're a facility that makes use of volunteers (which most of them do) then you'll get a call to come down to the offices within a few days, if even. Fair bit of warning, though: The majority of the work you'll do is refilling water and cleaning up animal shit / removing half-eaten carcasses. Eagles also have a tendency to bite the top of your head if you walk too close, so wear a hat.

If you want to get a foot in the door, though, volunteering at wildlife sanctuaries is a good place to start.
 
CNN: Some ultra-Orthodox Jews are ignoring Israel's coronavirus rules, despite a warning to 'wake up!' / http://archive.li/XepfO
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Police stand guard as ultra-Orthodox Jews protest against coronavirus restrictions on Monday.
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As Virus Spikes Among Ultra-Orthodox, Israel Deploys Security Forces To Make Them Stay Home
Headline from the Washington Post. Can't archive.
 
Interesting Reason.com video on the challenges of making masks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pT0l7ewptI



It seems like we'd be better off trying to mass manufacture masks to reduce the infection rate (Archive) than trying to mass-produce ventilators to try to shave 10-20% off the death rate in the most serious cases.

E.g. from
https://web.archive.org/web/2020032...on.com/article/S0195-6701(20)30097-9/fulltext

Among the 493 medical staff, none of 278 (56 doctors and 222 nurses) in the N95 group became infected, compared with 10 of 213 (77 doctors and 136 nurses) from the no-mask group were confirmed infected (Table I). Regardless of their lower risk of exposure, the 2019-nCoV infection rate for medical staff was significantly increased in the no-mask group compared with the N95 respirator group (difference: 4.65%, [95% CI: 1.75%-infinite]; P<2.2e-16) (adjusted odds ratio (OR): 464.82, [95% CI: 97.73-infinite]; P<2.2e-16).
 
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Wow fuck me LOL

it would seem we are all seeing things from different perspectives here. I know for sure Seattle, LA, Miami and New York have ZERO flights because these are all places I have been in the last 6 months and moved from one to another but I won't reveal that information here because the neg rate assholes will use it against me later.

Amazing. I wonder if flights outbound from Austin Texas are all a huge go. Jesus that is some crazy shit. So it would seem some are much more locked down then others. Trump is talking mad shit daily about how "he does not plan to release us from this lockdown." I guess he is mainly addressing New York? He always acts like he is talking to the world.

Wow wtf. Well if the total world isn't on total lockdown then what is the need for $2 trillion? Big party and everyone is invited?

you realize tons of Cargo moves by air, right? Amazon, Walmart, all the online services that are still delivering needed supplies. FedEx, UPS USPS, all travels by air.
 
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