Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

Funny I thought FMA was also in that category (I know Brotherhood is, but I haven't heard much about 2003 from a dubbing standpoint).

It is, too. TV Tropes (yes, yes, I know, but it was helpful here) has a "Superlative Dubbing" list that mentions what dubs has unanimous praise, and FMA (as a whole, though Brotherhood knocked it out of the park) is considered as such alongside others like Azumanga Daioh, Air, and Samurai Champloo. But Bebop has always been said to be the perfect dub.
 
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This video is a mess and they're reporting on some disagreement from almost a year ago.



The GoFundMe was actually under attack. Jamie Marchi's Discord had a #gofundme-evidence-nick section where they worked on trying to get the GoFundMe taken down.

She Devil = Jamie Marchi
ImThatBitch = Dominique Skye

ImThatBitch: @She Devil has gofundme gotten back to you?? When should we start reporting?
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The person who leaked these, @DBZUk_kamehouse, was only in the Discord from February-March, so they were going after the GoFundMe from it's inception.
I know we all laugh at KV for their obsessed hatred for Vic’s GFM, but reading snippets like this, it’s still amazing how butthurt they got that some hick lawyer from Minnesota was willing to help someone when the industry wasn’t willing to lend a hand and give him a chance to fight back. It has to kill these people that Vic is not only still alive but has arguably made more money and garnered more fans than these people will ever make in their lifetime.
The vid is already posted in TUG's thread, but we should address it here.
TUG apparently tried to blacklist Emosh and he wanted to create a fake GFM attack on Vic's GFM, but the idea got shot down by the other ISWV Youtuber.
I will add the DMs in a later post.
TUG is such a putz. It’s sad that a forty-something year old father and husband would do something like this. And what’s his deal with Emosh?
 
This video is a mess and they're reporting on some disagreement from almost a year ago.



The GoFundMe was actually under attack. Jamie Marchi's Discord had a #gofundme-evidence-nick section where they worked on trying to get the GoFundMe taken down.

She Devil = Jamie Marchi
ImThatBitch = Dominique Skye

ImThatBitch: @She Devil has gofundme gotten back to you?? When should we start reporting?
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The person who leaked these, @DBZUk_kamehouse, was only in the Discord from February-March, so they were going after the GoFundMe from it's inception.
TUG actually wanted to make a fake GFM attack.
You can see Hero Hei and Emosh talking about it in the DMs.
Check the video, it's timestamped

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This video is a mess and they're reporting on some disagreement from almost a year ago.



The GoFundMe was actually under attack. Jamie Marchi's Discord had a #gofundme-evidence-nick section where they worked on trying to get the GoFundMe taken down.

She Devil = Jamie Marchi
ImThatBitch = Dominique Skye

ImThatBitch: @She Devil has gofundme gotten back to you?? When should we start reporting?
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The person who leaked these, @DBZUk_kamehouse, was only in the Discord from February-March, so they were going after the GoFundMe from it's inception.
I feel like we’re taking about two different things here. The screens you’re showing are from February and the events in the video seem to be from a couple months later. It’s my understanding it was an idea born because Nick had been suspended from Twitter. Nick even came out and said the GFM wasn’t under attack at the time when Emosh and Ghostshell had their spat on Twitter. By that time I think the discord those screens are from has been disbanded.
 

Weeb wars season 4: civil war. I guess this is some response to tug's exposed video.
Ah yes, the inevitable infighting.

Guys.
Tomorrow is April 1st.
This might be a pre-emptive April Fool's joke.
 

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Seems to me TUG was just whoring the actual GFM attacks for content, not fabricating anything. Exaggerating at worst.
 
This video is a mess and they're reporting on some disagreement from almost a year ago.



The GoFundMe was actually under attack. Jamie Marchi's Discord had a #gofundme-evidence-nick section where they worked on trying to get the GoFundMe taken down.

She Devil = Jamie Marchi
ImThatBitch = Dominique Skye

ImThatBitch: @She Devil has gofundme gotten back to you?? When should we start reporting?
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The person who leaked these, @DBZUk_kamehouse, was only in the Discord from February-March, so they were going after the GoFundMe from it's inception.
Eh, it happened a year ago, but it doesn't change that it still happened. Thanks for clearing up the GFM misunderstanding.

Still though, fuck those two.

Edit: Seems like both you and Yuusha are correct from what I can see.
 
The vid is already posted in TUG's thread, but we should address it here.
TUG apparently tried to blacklist Emosh and he wanted to create a fake GFM attack on Vic's GFM, but the idea got shot down by the other ISWV Youtuber.
I will add the DMs in a later post.

Fuck that cuck ass Tennessian fucker, cody was right about these cg tubers just hoping on the bandwagon for views but trying to gayop vic's gfm? After he tried to post that he gets attacked so "vic wouldn't have to?" He deserves all the backlash he gets but I doubt YouTubers in the isvw or cg spectrum would say anything they'll brush it aside until other parts start posting damming shit.
 
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Fuck that cuck ass Tennessian fucker, cody was right about these cg tubers just hoping on the bandwagon for views but trying to gayop vic's gfm? After he tried to post that he git attacked so "vic wouldn't have to?" He deserves all the backlash he gets but I doubt YouTubers in the isvw or cg spectrum would say anything they'll brush it aside until other parts start posting damming shit.
TUG was right for the most part about a planned attack on the GFM. From what @Nontransferable posted, Jamie Marchi and Dominique Syke were gonna try to force the GFM down or they were at least brainstorming ideas on how to do that.

However, what TUG also wanted to do was lie about HOW the GFM was attacked. Something that Emosh didn't agree with and he told him upfront about it. Senpai smelled blood in the water and like a dwarf shark, swam out to fan the flames by pitting TUG and Emosh against eachother, acting like a puppetier trying to pull the strings behind closed doors by piggy backing off another ISWV idiot who saw Emosh disagree with TUG and then in a wonderful lapse in braincell count, tried to paint Emosh as a villain, despite the fact Emosh had been open and never lying before. Emosh wasn't happy that TUG, knowing WHY Emosh disagreed with him, pretended like he didn't know what Emosh was talking about and let his sycophants attack Emosh and accuse him of changing sides or just being an instigator. HeroHei's confusion was due to the fact that TUG didn't clue him on about what Emosh was possibly miffed about, further painting Emosh in a bad light.

Just a gigantic fucking gay op that TUG tried to do to rile up ISWV speds into donating but all it really did was making them cannibalize each other. Fucking melts. A rock has more intelligence than them.
 
TUG was right for the most part about a planned attack on the GFM. From what @Nontransferable posted, Jamie Marchi and Dominique Syke were gonna try to force the GFM down or they were at least brainstorming ideas on how to do that.

However, what TUG also wanted to do was lie about HOW the GFM was attacked. Something that Emosh didn't agree with and he told him upfront about it. Senpai smelled blood in the water and like a dwarf shark, swam out to fan the flames by pitting TUG and Emosh against eachother, acting like a puppetier trying to pull the strings behind closed doors by piggy backing off another ISWV idiot who saw Emosh disagree with TUG and then in a wonderful lapse in braincell count, tried to paint Emosh as a villain, despite the fact Emosh had been open and never lying before. Emosh wasn't happy that TUG, knowing WHY Emosh disagreed with him, pretended like he didn't know what Emosh was talking about and let his sycophants attack Emosh and accuse him of changing sides or just being an instigator. HeroHei's confusion was due to the fact that TUG didn't clue him on about what Emosh was possibly miffed about, further painting Emosh in a bad light.

Just a gigantic fucking gay op that TUG tried to do to rile up ISWV speds into donating but all it really did was making them cannibalize each other. Fucking melts. A rock has more intelligence than them.
You got it wrong,
@Nontransferable was talking about something from February.
I was Talking about the Vid and the DM.
This stuff happened in April.
 
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Just a gigantic fucking gay op that TUG tried to do to rile up ISWV speds into donating but all it really did was making them cannibalize each other. Fucking melts. A rock has more intelligence than them.

Damn, so that's what caused infighting with emosh? Tug trying to concern troll a gayop from kickvic and lie about it? Can't wait for more behind the scenes shit tug was involved in.
 
This video is a mess and they're reporting on some disagreement from almost a year ago.



The GoFundMe was actually under attack. Jamie Marchi's Discord had a #gofundme-evidence-nick section where they worked on trying to get the GoFundMe taken down.

She Devil = Jamie Marchi
ImThatBitch = Dominique Skye

ImThatBitch: @She Devil has gofundme gotten back to you?? When should we start reporting?
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The person who leaked these, @DBZUk_kamehouse, was only in the Discord from February-March, so they were going after the GoFundMe from it's inception.
I think most people here would agree that talking shit about a normal GFM & threatening to report it isn't the same kind of attack as talking shit about a GFM with a legalized backing.
I know for a fact it wasn't attacked. So did Nick. What Nick said about the GFM not being under attack applies to that time frame & anything before it. It's literally the reason why they gave it a legal backing.
The gist of blowing it out if proportion was so people would donate more money to the GFM if certain people said that it's under attack because Nick got suspended.
It was a lame attempt (in my opinion at least) at shilling.
What IS beautiful about this though is that months later we did in fact get to the 250K mark on Nick's stream and we shilled it HONESTLY. I'm proud of that.
So yeah, I think our understanding of what defines an attack is different.
 
You got it wrong,
@Nontransferable was talking about something from February.
I was Talking about the Vid and the DM.
This stuff happened in April.
Oh hooo...
I see.

So TUG really did want to lie about the GFM being attacked...again.
Save for me getting the time of the events wrong, was everything else more or less right or am I still missing some key things? I'm just trying to make sense of all this info.

Damn, so that's what caused infighting with emosh? Tug trying to concern troll a gayop from kickvic and lie about it? Can't wait for more behind the scenes shit tug was involved in.
Take my speculations with a grain of salt. Yuusha is helping me work out what's right and what's wrong.
 
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Oh hooo...
I see.

So TUG really did want to lie about the GFM being attacked...again.
Save for me getting the time of the events wrong, was everything else more or less right or am I still missing some key things? I'm just trying to make sense of all this info.
You're pretty spot on except HH knew about it too. My issue with him was that he held a Livestream (monetized btw) about my back and forth with Ghostshellzen. I didn't know about it, he never even asked if he could or for my input on what was going on.
A friend called me and said yo Hero's talking about you on a stream.
So I tune in & the entire time he's acting like he doesn't know why I'm upset with anyone. I show up in his live chat and he goes "oh hey emosh was just about to DM you to see if you wanted to hop on tomorrow to talk about this." I said yes.
Long story short. That never happened.

So for about a month or so I got flack while they profited. So I dropped making content on the Vic stuff. I'm just not into dealing with folks who bury other people for some subs or whatever.

I still keep tabs on what's going on and as some of you have probably seen I only come on when I'm needed.
 
The GoFundMe has always been under attack. It started in February and even into June Shane was telling people it was against the terms of service. How many thousands were refunded because of the names the donators used? They eventually stopped complaining, only because they decided all the money would be going to the defendants.

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I feel like we’re taking about two different things here. The screens you’re showing are from February and the events in the video seem to be from a couple months later. It’s my understanding it was an idea born because Nick had been suspended from Twitter. Nick even came out and said the GFM wasn’t under attack at the time when Emosh and Ghostshell had their spat on Twitter. By that time I think the discord those screens are from has been disbanded.

The Discord you're thinking of that was disbanded was Shane's.
 
The GoFundMe has always been under attack. It started in February and even into June Shane was telling people it was against the terms of service. How many thousands were refunded because of the names the donators used? They eventually stopped complaining, only because they decided all the money would be going to the defendants.

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The Discord you're thinking of that was disbanded was Shane's.
Right then you're talking about something different but again it's also why they've taken steps to ensure that it doesn't get taken down. Either way, an attack is an attack if it's effective. It wasn't & if it was it wasn't for long. Certainly not the time I disagreed with that assessment.
 
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