Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[MediocreMilt]

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Nice! Pretty sure the Farms give an achievement for finding Null a wife

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

OH NO !! NOT ALL MY TOILET PAPERINO !

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This load of toilet paper got wiped out.

A tractor-trailer hauling a shipment of the hot coronavirus commodity crashed near Dallas early on Wednesday and caught fire, singeing thousands of rolls and spilling the rest all over an interstate, officials said.

The load of commercial toilet paper, typically used in stores, restaurants and other businesses, “burned extensively,” according to Dallas TV station WFAA.

The driver and his dog were not injured.

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This is clearly the end times folks, the Toilet papers preppers were right.

Massive toilet paper shipment wiped out in fiery wreck

This load of toilet paper got wiped out. A tractor-trailer hauling a shipment of the hot coronavirus commodity crashed near Dallas early on Wednesday and caught fire, singeing thousands of rolls an…

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Definitely an inside job by the bidet industry. Those monsters want the sweet, sweet burger dollas. Archived in case Big Bidet gets up to any memory holing.

Why do people smoke crack?

Why diet when crack is more effective?

 

[Silver Chariot]

According to this thread, the Philippines is going nutso:

🎈 on Twitter

“hi i just want everyone here, not just my fellow filipino mutuals, to be aware of what’s happening in the philippines right now — a thread”

twitter.com

http://archive.li/rcw5d

TL;DR:

• There are barely any relief goods. People go outside to protest, they get hammered by the military because, well, they're outside.
• Their President, Rodrigo Duterte, says some crazy stuff - "It will be an honor [for medical workers] to die for the country", "Shoot them dead" (in response to quarantine violaters)
• Doctors are being paid 500 PH Pesos/hr - an equivalency of about $10 USD/hr
• Subpoenas in response to, well, criticizing the government

In other words, shithole country experiences the consequences of being a shithole country magnified

 

[pwnest injun]

Maybe a week or two, but she goes out a winner. The CCP gets whacked again. Just a big bunch of pussies, can't handle criticism. And in this way, the CCP plants the seeds of its' own demise.

The CCP has lost the propaganda war. Hell, they are the gang that couldn't even shoot straight. Sending defective medical supplies to Europe - what genius thought that up? They didn't think those supplies would be checked? And watching Chinese police fight each other? You've got to be shitting me.

When you add the current and pending economic dislocation in China, plus foreign concerns pulling out, that's not a good thing.

The CCP is brittle. They are uniting a lot of the world against them due to this act of war against humanity. The USA, UK, France, Italy, Spain, and other countries are being hit hard but their resiliency is greater than China's.

The CCP has sown the wind, domestically and internationally. In due time, the CCP will reap the whirlwind.

Don't forget the fact that they lost such a huge amount of their food supply to swine flu and bird flu immediately leading up to this pandemic. So, their population won't be happy no matter what.

 

[Lame Entropy]

Don't forget the fact that they lost such a huge amount of their food supply to swine flu and bird flu immediately leading up to this pandemic. So, their population won't be happy no matter what.

RIP to all the dogs and bats about to be eaten.

 

[New & Improved Username]

RIP to all the dogs and bats about to be eaten.

If it's their culture to eat pets and bats, why don't they sell them cleaned gutted and packaged in their grocery stores? If regular humans had to go to a filthy street market where pigs and chickens were stuffed into filthy rusted cages and slaughtered there in the mud and disease, a lot more people would be vegetarians. I enjoy eating pigs and chickens but if I had to get them at a filth market I would just quit.

 

[Exbein]

According to this thread, the Philippines is going nutso:

🎈 on Twitter

“hi i just want everyone here, not just my fellow filipino mutuals, to be aware of what’s happening in the philippines right now — a thread”

twitter.com

http://archive.li/rcw5d

TL;DR:

• There are barely any relief goods. People go outside to protest, they get hammered by the military because, well, they're outside.
• Their President, Rodrigo Duterte, says some crazy stuff - "It will be an honor [for medical workers] to die for the country", "Shoot them dead" (in response to quarantine violaters)
• Doctors are being paid 500 PH Pesos/hr - an equivalency of about $10 USD/hr
• Subpoenas in response to, well, criticizing the government

In other words, shithole country experiences the consequences of being a shithole country magnified

To kinda clarify or white knight flipland, the protesters are riled up by Kadamay, which is a commie rebel group allied with NPA/CPP. These group infiltrate the low income urban areas and riled up the residents to protest outside. the NPA group actually have a few skirmishes with the army since the NPA is going around and extorting food and supplies in the provinces.

Like I posted in the previous posts, the medical frontliners are in high morale. As an anecdote, the medical doctor husband and wife, Dr. Helen and Dennis Tudtud died in the line of duty. In fact, Dr. Helen Tudtud was the only one supposed to go, and the family pleaded Dr. Dennis Tudtud not to go since he has an underlying condition, but chose to, and said, that he has to accompany his wife even to their deaths.

As for the payment of 500 PHP/Hr, actually it is pretty high. the minimum wage in flipland is 300 PHP per fucking day. On top of that, they will be paid 100000 PHP in they contracted corona virus mild or severe, and 1 Million will be awarded to their family if they died in the line of duty.

As for criticizing the government, I haven't heard news about it yet. The only news is that the NBI (flipland's FBI equivalent) is now investigating Senator Pimentel for breaking the quarantine rules.

 

[pwnest injun]

Someone might be making this. Since it's crowdfunded, don't expect any promises to be kept.

PlaguN95: N95 protective Plague doctor masks

Really N95 protective mask, Equipped with a Cool Flow valve.

www.indiegogo.com

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I get the feeling that this won't actually be NIOSH rated, so why not call it an N99? I guess N95 is the meme?

 

[Silver Chariot]

As for the payment of 500 PHP/Hr, actually it is pretty high. the minimum wage in flipland is 300 PHP per fucking day. On top of that, they will be paid 100000 PHP in they contracted corona virus mild or severe, and 1 Million will be awarded to their family if they died in the line of duty.

see, that was the one part I was skeptical about because I know the Philippine economy is shit and they really value the American dollar over there. I figured it was a high salary in a relative sense to the rest of the Philippines but still low when you convert it to the American dollar.

 

[Lame Entropy]

If it's their culture to eat pets and bats, why don't they sell them cleaned gutted and packaged in their grocery stores? If regular humans had to go to a filthy street market where pigs and chickens were stuffed into filthy rusted cages and slaughtered there in the mud and disease, a lot more people would be vegetarians. I enjoy eating pigs and chickens but if I had to get them at a filth market I would just quit.

Because China is a country that up until the last few decades was mostly an agrarian shit hole. They industrialized quickly and grew their economy with the inclusion of capitalist elements but their culture hasn't caught up, a good bit of people in China still act like they're in a third world country. Disgusting/unsanitary wet markets are par for the course.

 

[Angry New Ager]

Idk I just saw it on twitter https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1245178581950447617?s=20

It was posted yesterday and a couple of the shoppers were wearing nitrile gloves so I think it's corona related. Maybe she's making sure everyone would keep at least 30 feet away.

I didn't know there was a Mad Cow outbreak going on; I guess Corona-chan has been hogging all the headlines.

 

[Shaka Brah]

Hopefully there's a distinction between "wont treat all" and "wont treat any". I wonder how many long term coma vegetables there are in the world using up ventilators and hospital beds.

None, generally! They're sent out of the hospital into hospice care fairly quick. Hospitals in the first world now are designed not for holding people long-term but for intensive care and then rapid discharge to the home. Because of minimally invasive procedures and strong antibiotics people get out of surgery in a single day vs. months like before.

 

[Super Smelly Vagina]

That’s my thing too, and why I get really heated about anti-vaxxers. If it was just them who died of or were maimed by easily preventable diseases I wouldn’t give less of a shit. Let their stupidity be proof of natural selection. But what makes anti-vaxxers dangerous is that they don’t vaccinate their kids and loudly try to convince other people to not vaccinate their kids. So right off the bat, they’re putting helpless children at risk of contracting horrible diseases that should have been eradicated.

But anti-vaxxers are also a risk to the public health. Unvaccinated people can reintroduce diseases to populations that haven’t dealt with them in years (like measles). Too many unvaccinated people is also a threat to herd immunity. It actually is true that vaccines aren’t safe for everyone; there’s a very small amount of people whose bodies react badly to them for whatever reason so they genuinely can’t be vaccinated. Those people are protected by herd immunity, as for the most part having a population that’s largely vaccinated prevents diseases from spreading to those who aren’t. That’s why it’s so important that everyone who can be safely vaccinated (which is the vast majority of people) does so, so that those who can’t can still be protected. The ironic thing is that anti-vaxxers claim we don’t need vaccines because their kids don’t get sick, when in reality they’re being protected by herd immunity.

So yeah, that’s why I get pressed about anti-vaxxers. If you want to hurt yourself with your stupidity, go for it, just don’t bring innocent kids into it or endanger the public health.

Maybe the government should force the entire population to take Truvada.

 

[lottalove]

I have a question guys about your personal experience: do you start to feel like outcasts because of not wearing masks in public? Or you are wearing masks all the time?

Quite the opposite here in Germany, since no masks are to be had nowhere. There are groups sewing masks for people who really need them. Only a few people outside are wearing masks, at least in my city. It is still strange to see them. One or two cities have ordered the public to wear masks outside, but for now no nationwide order has been given.

Rate me late if this got posted already, got sent this from a friend of a friend. It appears to be a text dump from somewhere else, but I’m having a hard time finding the source - any google experts wanna lend a hand?

I am an ER MD in New Orleans. Every one of my colleagues have now seen several hundred Covid 19 patients and this is what I think I know. (...)

We had that here on friday.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/wuhan-coronavirus-megathread.65421/post-6208506

The sentence "Class of 98." in the beginning seems to have disappeared in your copy.
Not sure about the source, also. But seems legit regarding the deathrate of people being ventilated.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

Every time you think China can't make themselves look any more like a bunch of fools, there they go again. In private, Xi must be chewing the carpets. Not only has he and China lost more face than a plastic surgeon, nearly the entire rest of the world's utterly disgusted with China. Gotta work pretty hard to have that happen.

At least one formerly influential Tory, Damian Green is saying we'll have to start treating them like the soviet union after all this shit is over. If someone who's now as impudent as Green felt safe writing this article, then you know he has a lot of other Tory MPs thinking the same.

 

[Kane Lives]

Do not nag your husband. Malaysia is one of the few sane countries, with this crucial advice. Also a reminder to men - if you need do discipline the bitch during the pandemic - make sure she's dead or has no access to the phone/outside world.
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You can thank the new (unelected) government for this bit of lunacy. Apparently intelligent people are in short supply because everyone qualified got filtered out by decades of cronyism and nepotism.

FFS, this is absolutely the worst way to be famous at this time.

 

[Silver Chariot]

the "86% die from a vent" number seems to come from here:

Mortality rate of COVID-19 patients on ventilators | Physician's Weekly

Caveat of that number: study was done in Wuhan, very small sample size of vent patients

Forgive me if I am late, I tried searching for this link in the thread to no avail

I'll paste the full article here:

Spoiler: full article

Although at the time I wrote this over 33,000 people had died from COVID 19 infections worldwide, the numbers of patients dying in intensive care units and on mechanical ventilation is unknown.

We have some early published data on percentages which vary widely. A paper from China involved 710 Covid-19 patients; 52 were admitted to an ICU. Of the 22 who eventually required mechanical ventilation, 19 (86%) died. Another early study reported 31 of 32 (97%) mechanically ventilated patients died.

I posed the following question on Twitter: “What is the mortality rate for [COVID-19] patients who require mechanical ventilation?” and received answers ranging from 25% to 70% from people who have personal knowledge of outcomes in their hospitals.

Probably the best published information we have so far is from the Intensive Care National Audit and Research Center (ICNARC) in the UK. Of 165 patients admitted to ICUs, 79 (48%) died. Of the 98 patients who received advanced respiratory support—defined as invasive ventilation, BPAP or CPAP via endotracheal tube, or tracheostomy, or extracorporeal respiratory support—66% died.

Compare that to the 36% mortality rate of non-COVID patients receiving advanced respiratory support reported to ICNARC from 2017 to 2019.

An article in The Guardian said this about the ICNARC study, “The high death rate raises questions about how effective critical care will be in saving the lives of people struck down by the disease.”

We know nothing about the survival rate of COVID-19 patients who have undergone cardiopulmonary resuscitation.

Why do we need to know the mortality rate of patients who are on mechanical ventilation or suffer cardiac arrest?

If the number of critically ill patients exceeds the current supply of intensive care beds and ventilators as occurred in Italy, it would help intensivists to triage. And if CPR is ineffective in these patients, we should not be subjecting caregivers to the risks involved in resuscitation.

The possible need for ventilator triage is no longer theoretical, and the ethical issues are being discussed by hospital committees and others. For an in-depth look at the problem, I recommend this article from Undark, a non-profit digital magazine. If we run out of ventilators, “American medical teams, too, will soon face the hardest possible decisions over who lives, and who dies, when not everyone can be treated.”

Hospitals need to have policies in place before that crisis occurs.

Thanks to everyone on Twitter who contributed to the discussion. Stay safe.

Skeptical Scalpel is a retired surgeon and was a surgical department chair and residency program director for many years. He is board-certified in general surgery and a surgical sub-specialty and has re-certified in both several times.For the last 9 years, he has been blogging at SkepticalScalpel.blogspot.com and tweeting as @SkepticScalpel. His blog has had more than 3,700,000 page views, and he has over 21,000 followers on Twitter.

EDIT: clarifications

 

[Roast Chicken]

I have a question guys about your personal experience: do you start to feel like outcasts because of not wearing masks in public? Or you are wearing masks all the time?

I went to a hospital appointment wearing one and the nurses seemed a bit perplexed by it. "May I ask why you're wearing the mask? Do you have any symptoms?" Well no, I don't have any symptoms but I work in a supermarket and I don't want to get saliva droplets on you or breathe any in just in case...

 

[Clem Fandango]

Quite the opposite here in Germany, since no masks are to be had nowhere. There are groups sewing masks for people who really need them. Only a few people outside are wearing masks, at least in my city. It is still strange to see them. One or two cities have ordered the public to wear masks outside, but for now no nationwide order has been given.

In my city in the UK, I've noticed that only Chinese people have masks. Also, while this is a university town with a large number of Chinese students, it seems like Chinese people are disproportionately out and about, a lot more than everyone else (I have to drive my wife to/from work as she's "essential"). Where they got the masks, I've no idea.

 

[KI;HO]

A norwegian hospital is stopping the use of a batch of masks they bought from China because of their low quality.



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