Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

"These women chose to side with a serial sexual assaulter and sexual predator! Vic most likely in his cheating rampage gave these gullible ladies some sex and gifts years ago so they'd help hide his heinous sexual crimes and support him in his SLAPP suit! They know he's guilty and just wanted botox chud dick and to pander to alt-right MRA incels like the gullible harlots they are. No wonder they support a known MRA like Nick, a misogynist pig who insults Vic's victims in the middle of the night!" - Martin Bettik, elite male feminist paladin
I genuinely thought Martin Bettik made it to the forums and I was going to warmly greet him.

Fuck you for getting my hopes up... I shall now proceed to become an hero.
 
Why should we surprised that a worm who uses a gay Twitter avatar like Bettik would make sexist remarks about a couple of women? We're talking about a side that thinks a hug constitutes as sexual assault, but child pornography, domestic abuse and casting couch rumors are somehow not a big deal.
"Sabat's casting couch and Ron's abuse of his wives is whataboutism that white nationalist trash Kiwi Farms dug up, because they knew their pathetic teenage girl grooming and sexually assaulting court documented predator Vic Mignogna was gonna lose his case! The sex pest worshipping chuds always try to deflect Vic's casting couch to Sabat because they can't handle the fact their hero assaulted underaged girls like the fake Christian he is!"

"That one lady VA's pedophile brother at least never touched kids or propositioned five year olds on video! The failings of that VA's brother has less than zero meaning! Just pointless whataboutism to defend a worthless sex pest fake Christian!"

"The MRA chuds always deflect to Ron's past, believing that Ron doing bad things means his accusations towards Vic aren't credible! Ron being a bad person doesn't stop Vic from being a skeevy grooming plastic surgery abusing pedophile assaulter; it's meaningless whataboutism to blindly defend a washed-up jobless sex pest who has rightfully purged from the industry! Sabat and Ron can disembowel children and it wouldn't change the fact Vic sexually assaulted hundreds of women, and cons covered it up out of greed until #MeToo exposed his debauchery/fake Christianity to everyone, and now the only cons now that would take him in are desperate greedy toy stores and rape apologist cons the racist MRA disgraced lawyer Nick bribes with his trust fund!" - Martin Bettik, transcending the 280 character limit with his respect for Vic's many underaged victims, 2020.
 
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Casting couches tend to be borderline rape, as it's usually 'have sex with me or don't get into the industry/get thrown out' (aka what happens with Sabat, where an entire career or worse hinges on taking dick) and are the reason things like sexual harassment in the workplace laws exist. "I'm having sex with this girl and so I favor her" is simple nepotism, even if that's what happened. Accusing Vic of casting couching Erin and Svetlana and then making fun of them for it is basically accusing them of being victims or rape or severe sexual harassment (despite their word otherwise) and then mocking them for that.

Maybe Kathy's just mad no one harasses her.
 
Casting couches tend to be borderline rape, as it's usually 'have sex with me or don't get into the industry/get thrown out'
Thats BS. Its prostitution.

"I'm having sex with this girl and so I favor her" is simple nepotism, even if that's what happened.
getting paid for giving out a position is nepotism yes, but thats something he has answer to his boss for.
 
Hate to be THAT guy but hear me out for a minute. Sen's an idiot. I tell him that a lot & he's cool with it. Ultimately what it comes down to is that TUG knew what kind of internet persona Sen was becoming & it looks like he pushed him towards that "drama" route.
If y'all watched the video & see where Sen is told that he "doesn't have to be nice." What is essentially happening there is Sen being kept around & groomed to be some kind of lap dog or means to say and start shit that TUG wanted no public part of.
So they'd be cool behind the scenes but Sen got little to no play when it came to collaborations. Is it TUGs fault entirely? No. <SNIP>
Under the heading of "everyone's got one":

I truly like HH, he reminds me of my grandson and he makes an effort at "journalistic integrity ". I have enjoyed getting to know him. Another point in his "plus" column is he refuses to take umbrage with others that support Vic, regardless of their various and annoying departures.

Nick is exceptionally entertaining while he can be abrasive. That said, he has put his actions up where most have just words. His streams are typically very informative and he is truly a guilty pleasure of mine, especially when he and Drexel spin off into some depravity.

YF is truly funny, especially when you're just reading his communications. I have enjoyed many of his videos while I am indifferent about others. But that's just preference and has nothing to do with whether I disagree or whatever.

I really don't hold any issue with TUG though he has gotten kind of spastic and it pains me he has created such schisms and burned many of his allies. All that said, it's not my offense to pick up and I may even listen to a video in the future... especially (only?) if we continue our lock down much longer.

I've got all of 90 seconds or so of Sen under my belt. That's the limit of my sperging tolerance.

But here's where I appreciate @spirit of e m o s h. I'm a pragmatist, analytically inclined and I don't suffer liars/idiots. Emosh has been consistent from the first time I heard or read anything from him. He consistently lays out his reasoning, he's articulate and he's intellectually honest. I can't overstate how much that is important to me. While I generally give people like TUG the benefit of the doubt, Emosh backs up his conclusions with reason, logic and references.

Thanks for being here Emosh and thank you to the Farms for keeping the synapses firing even if they are short circuiting.

Added in Edit: Are the avatars disabled now?
 
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A) Theres a difference between casting couches and hiring/recommending a friend. Sure, you can say Michele only got the gig on Vics Star Trek show because of nepotism, but nobody has proof of anything above that.

B) How many more people are y'all going to drag into this lawsuit? Do you realize that everytime you throw someone in, you might get another Stan Dahlin or @EriMin titanics your fucking argument because you assumed they'd roll with your lie just because?

C) Its always kind of funny when people that profess gender equality or feminism say shit like this without thinking. Congrats, you just implied those women are too shit at their jobs to get it naturally and had to rely on sucking dick to move up in the world. Talentless whores, amirite?
 
Thats BS. Its prostitution.


getting paid for giving out a position is nepotism yes, but thats something he has answer to his boss for.

Tell that to Stephanie Nadolny who said 'no' and got fired from all Funimation projects, then thrown out of the industry forcibly - replaced in unrelated, non anime roles written specifically for her, and deprived of most convention invites - and then slandered and smeared for years being called an alcoholic with problems by her supposed friends. Casting couches are not prostitution. Prostitution is voluntary (ostensibly) and its own career path. Casting couches is abusing authority to obtain sex under the threat of not just 'not getting the part' but total ruin. It's a world of difference from 'I'm banging or otherwise in a relationship with someone, so I give them undue favor'.
 
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Tell that to Stephanie Nadolny who said 'no' and got fired from all Funimation projects, then thrown out of the industry forcibly - replaced in unrelated, non anime roles written specifically for her, and deprived of most convention invites - and then slandered and smeared for years being called an alcoholic with problems by her supposed friends. Casting couches are not prostitution. Prostitution is voluntary (ostensibly) and its own career path. Casting couches is abusing authority to obtain sex under the threat of not just 'not getting the part' but total ruin. It's a world of difference from 'I'm banging or otherwise in a relationship with someone, so I give them undue favor'.

I don't know about Stephanie because I don't have the motivation to read and watch all the stuff to fully understand her situation. But, if you put yourself in a casting couch situation I have a hard time feeling bad for you if you cry about the experience after engaging in it unless you were physically forced to.
 
I don't know about Stephanie because I don't have the motivation to read and watch all the stuff to fully understand her situation. But, if you put yourself in a casting couch situation I have a hard time feeling bad for you if you cry about the experience after engaging in it unless you were physically forced to.

Then you should really read up on the situation, not just Stephanie but Huber's affidavit describing Sabat's casting couch. The point of a casting couch is that the victims generally don't 'put themselves' in a casting couch situation. They either apply for a position (or in some cases if they're young their parents do it) and are then told they can either go along with it and get the job or refuse and be black balled forever, or they're already in the industry and someone with influence over them (like Sabat to Nadolny) tells them they need to get on that couch or they'll be booted out and black balled. There's a difference between women offering their body for parts - ie; gold diggers like Michelle Specht - and those in power demanding sex as a part of employment or an unrelated career. It's kind of ridiculous to be like "Eh, I don't feel bad for you that you lost out on your career because you wouldn't suck dick. If you really wanted the position you'd have done it, but if you did do it I don't feel bad for you because it's not like you were physically forced to do it."
 
Then you should really read up on the situation, not just Stephanie but Huber's affidavit describing Sabat's casting couch. The point of a casting couch is that the victims generally don't 'put themselves' in a casting couch situation. They either apply for a position (or in some cases if they're young their parents do it) and are then told they can either go along with it and get the job or refuse and be black balled forever, or they're already in the industry and someone with influence over them (like Sabat to Nadolny) tells them they need to get on that couch or they'll be booted out and black balled. There's a difference between women offering their body for parts - ie; gold diggers like Michelle Specht - and those in power demanding sex as a part of employment or an unrelated career. It's kind of ridiculous to be like "Eh, I don't feel bad for you that you lost out on your career because you wouldn't suck dick. If you really wanted the position you'd have done it, but if you did do it I don't feel bad for you because it's not like you were physically forced to do it."
It looks more like a quid pro quo situation than her ending up on a casting couch with a known predator then feeling bad after having sex with the guy.
 
It looks more like a quid pro quo situation than her ending up on a casting couch with a known predator then feeling bad after having sex with the guy.
Let's say someone tells you to suck their dick or get fired, and getting fired would mean not only that you're out of job, but since the industry you work in is very insular you would need to move to another state to keep working in the same industry, and you would still lose the roles you had at the time.

It's not have sex with the person to advance your career, it's have sex with the person or you don't work, period. Calling that quid pro quo is very stupid in my opinion.
 
Let's say someone tells you to suck their dick or get fired, and getting fired would mean not only that you're out of job, but since the industry you work in is very insular you would need to move to another state to keep working in the same industry, and you would still lose the roles you had at the time.

It's not have sex with the person to advance your career, it's have sex with the person or you don't work, period. Calling that quid pro quo is very stupid in my opinion.
If you read my original point, I was talking about girls who go to a casting couch then cry about it after having sex with the guy.
 
One thing is being forced to do the couch with threaths and blackmail or violence and another is do it willingly only to cry about it years later (hello Weinstein "victims"!).
I recall Nadolny didn't do it and she was replaced by Sabat in all her roles and she moved away.
Anyway, I don't find strange that Vic may have suggested his friends for their jobs, it's quite normal thing to do and it's not nepotism, unless said people are his family or partners of his family, so I guess those KVers are just being ignorantly sad and stupid as always.
 
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