Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Miss Violet Beauregarde]

Gail Simone or her husband is spending quarantine fighting Just Some Guy with a sock puppet account.

I'm guessing either he's one of us or he's affiliated with the hacker known as 4chan somehow.

 

[WhimsicalTrolli]

Damn, Martina's husband about to get cucked

He's been cucked. She tried sleeping with one of the people from her failed magazine thing she tried doing. War campaign got bored with Tug's hambeast of a wife named Ashley or "Lola" and moved to Martina thotkoda. Good for them.

TUG starts wailing about how CG abandoned him to get curbstomped by fucking Comic Book Hut instead of rallying to his defense.

Comic book hut better have evidence of him being a "predator" he's just giving tug ammo for another gfm.

 

[Wise Man]

How is the Hut a threat to anyone with a pulse?

Also, Keung's got the prelaunch page up for Battle Maiden Knuckle Bomb #2

I don't know what a premiere edition is, but the first issue was full of tits and ass. My only gripe was the final cover wasn't the picture featured in the purchase tiers.

 

[Mister Dongs]

How is the Hut a threat to anyone with a pulse?

Comic Book Hut is just dumping TUG's dox openly for the world to see with all the shit some guy is spoonfeeding him for a laff, but TUG is too cowardly to even acknowledge that the person in the photo is him and just hopes Hut loses interest (bad idea given Hut's autism). Instead he's claiming the picture of Matt Lewis the TN mental clinic worker is actually "the person that made the mask" (actually some Warcampaign member who goes by 'SicSexSix').

 

[FROG]

Coronacomics collapse update:

EVS is out settling scores with rando colorists and Rich Johnston. I think, going by the somewhat unfocused and reactionary nature of his streams lately, actually achieving some sort of victory so suddenly has caught Frog a bit flatfooted,. Just like everyone else. If Comicsgate, against all odds and in spite of most of its members, actually succeeds in it's mission - the question must be asked: what happens next?

I'm open to good ideas. Most of the suggestions I get are simple (Start a ComicsGate company where everyone publishes together! Open a website!) that reflect the traditional ways of doing business in comics, in an industry that, even if it gets up off the mat after this, is just out of energy.

ComicsGate is chaotic and fun, and I think people enjoy it for those reasons.

My plans are just to continue doing CYBERFROG comics, and occasionally offer a Rainbow Fairy Barbarian comic, or a horror comic IP, or a Junkyard Voltron comic. Just keep doing what I'm doing and see what that brings me. We've captured some bottled lightning, and until something inspired occurs to me or someone else, I'm just here to make comics and videos for as long as I'm able to do so.

 

[Aqua Panda]

For the "will manga dominate" question earlier in the thread. Honestly, for now, yes. Say what you will about the standard Japanese tropes, but manga has WAY more variety and hasn't had SJW's suck out all the mature themes and/or sexual content & innuendo. That helps make stories interesting and people will flock to it when the domestic product is lacking. Seriously, when was the last time comics had a romance with actual sexual tension in the story? People like that. It really feels that a writer would be crucified for even attempting it nowadays.

Some comics just feel aimless right now. For example, what has happened to the X-Men is just inexcusable. I get that following up Claremont was a hard task, but the current X-Men are closer to being the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants than heroes. Attempts to blend them in as expies of the gay/transgender community and using them in blatant identity politics has basically made them inaccessible to anyone except from those communities. That's the exact opposite from Stan Lee's intended purposes: to be young adolescents finding their place and resisting the urge to go full Malcom X.

Edit: spelling and grammer

 

[CheezzyMach]

So joking about someone's cancer is "fun" i think daddy raped you all if you are this deranged and psychopathic Marvel and DC will never die, Cg will and you go crawling back when the igg pittybucks runs dry.

They won't die but they may stop publishing if the Direct Market completely collapses.

I stand by my statement that they're the only publishers that can survive it though but that depends if Disney/ATT decide to keep them around and reestablish their presence in grocery marts.

I don't think manga will completely dominate the entirety of US comics, but I see it taking an increasingly larger share. I can definitely see the decline of the big two, DC and Marvel, as they transition from comic book companies to corporate IP management firms. I can see the "direct market" dying, with your LGS and small comic book shops diversifying or shutting down. I'm pretty sure the only comic shop we have left in town primarily bills themselves as a "toys and collectibles" store, and the only LGS that's still open was doubling as an internet cafe last time I checked.

While I was writing that, someone made one of my points for me:



Like I said, they're IP management companies, and comic shops are dying.

What transition? Marvel has been primarily a toy company since Ike and Avi bought them back in 1996.

Why do you think all the 90s cartoons especially the late 90s were so toyetic,why Venom was shoehorned into Spider-Man 3 and why Marvel Studios was splintered from Marvel Entertainment?

 

[Twinkletard]

Marvel is a lifestyle brand according to Sana Amanat. Comics are sooooooo 20th century, ya'll.

Now, go buy a Captain Marvel shower curtain.

 

[verissimus]

Guess which project is back on IGG with a new estimated shipping date of August 2020

LADY ALCHEMY: MUTUS LIBER Graphic Novel

A NYC performer discovers her true purpose and the hidden truths of the world through Alchemy | Check out 'LADY ALCHEMY: MUTUS LIBER Graphic Novel' on Indiegogo.

www.indiegogo.com

 

[Jub-Jub]

Lion forge is dead

Spoiler: article

Polarity LTD has confirmed to Newsarama that it has closed its animation/comics development subsidiary Lion Forge Labs, with all employees laid off. "Due to rapidly changing economic conditions and the profound impact on marketing and advertising budgets globally, we made the very difficult decision to close Lion Forge Labs, our B2B creative services agency," read a statement from a Polarity representative.

According to Lion Forge Labs' website, the agency employed "over twenty people" - however Polarity didn’t specify the current total size of their now-laid-off staff. The St. Louis-based Lion Forge Labs developed comics, animation, and content for gaming to other companies including Microsoft, the United Way, and the St. Louis Cardinals. It was a sister company to Oni Press, Lion Forge Comics, Lion Forge Animation, and other businesses under the Polarity LTD umbrella.

Back in May 2019, many of the Lion Forge Comics division's staff were laid off as it merged with the newly-acquired Oni Press. Polarity acquired the comic news outlet The Beat in 2017, but the site returned to founder Heidi MacDonald's ownership in January 2020.

Newsarama | GamesRadar+

www.newsarama.com

The pie in the sky comichub app that was being championed as the saviour of the industry less than 48h ago is also not going ahead.

Unfortunately publishers who were interested in joining the platform now aren’t and we can 100% understand their decision despite the positive reception by customers and creators," Hendricks concluded. "This might not have been a long-term solution but we didn’t need it to be one. We just needed it to tide us over until the industry returns to normal. Whenever that is but hopefully soon.

Read no publisher was interested.

Newsarama | GamesRadar+

www.newsarama.com

 

[TowinKarz]

I wondered when someone was going to notice that the direct-to-consumer eSales model would mean that nobody would buy 90% of the books..... whereas the old direct-to-market model meant you could create fake sales by forcing shop owners to buy 40 pallet loads of woke junk if they wanted the 1 pallet of stuff that would actually sell.

They're caught in a logic bomb loop

Must use internet to have sales, but, internet sales mean people can decide to not buy trash..... essentially the same hill the music industry died on in the early 00's, If we go online, people will only buy the good/popular songs and not the albums.... and we can't have that!

 

[KingofNothing]

Yeah. the actors should bail out the comic shops because reasons. They don't owe the shops shit, most of the people who saw their movies never touched a comic

Cully Hamner on Twitter

“@Doncates Like if any of the main actors and/or directors of the Big Two comics movies "adopted" a comics retailer and paid their rent for 6 months to a year? Would be cool...”

twitter.com

And rip Lion Forge, not even Gail could save you from yourself. Well that's one company down, I wonder who's gonna be the next to fall

 

[Mister Dongs]

Donny Cates rn:

 

[Jub-Jub]

Yeah. the actors should bail out the comic shops because reasons. They don't owe the shops shit, most of the people who saw their movies never touched a comic

Cully Hamner on Twitter

“@Doncates Like if any of the main actors and/or directors of the Big Two comics movies "adopted" a comics retailer and paid their rent for 6 months to a year? Would be cool...”

twitter.com

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And rip Lion Forge, not even Gail could save you from yourself. Well that's one company down, I wonder who's gonna be the next to fall

I'm sure successful rich people just love to flush money down a toilet.

Saw some people mentioning IDW might be next. We've discussed the millions they've lost chasing netflix bux previously and now two of those shows have been cancelled after one season. They now have two shows; lock and key was renewed for s2, but there's no indication of when it can go into production, and Wynonna Earp which IIRC was on the chopping block after s3. Wynonna Earp has had massive production issues last year and now they can't even film the thing

On July 21, 2018, the renewal by Syfy and Space (rebranded as CTV Sci-Fi Channel in 2019) for a fourth season was announced at SDCC.[80][81] The season was scheduled to premiere in 2019 and comprise 12 episodes.[82]

In late February 2019, news broke that the start of production on the fourth season had been delayed due to financial problems at IDW Entertainment.[83][84][85] On July 2, 2019, it was announced that production would begin in late 2019 and filming starting January 2020,[86][87][88][86][89][90] with Cineflix Studios as co-producer, and Canada's Crave network as a new production partner.[88] Emily Andras thanked fans of Wynonna Earp for their loyalty, "This is an enormous testament to our passionate and fierce fans, the Earpers, who remind us every day how to fight like hell for the things you love with wit, ferocity and kindness."[88] Andras and cast were slated to appear at the 2019 San Diego Comic-Con.[86]

Filming for Season 4 began in Calgary on January 15, 2020.[91] New cast joining the series in the fourth season include Martina Ortiz-Luis as Rachel, Andrew Phung, and Ty Olsson.[92] Production was temporarily suspended on March 16 after Alberta issued a provincial order to stop all television and film productions due to concerns over the spread of coronavirus in the region and Canada

'V-Wars' and 'October Faction' Canceled at Netflix (Exclusive)

Both dramas, produced by IDW Entertainment, ran for only one season on the streamer.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

 

[KingofNothing]

Saw some people mentioning IDW might be next. We've discussed the millions they've lost chasing netflix bux previously and now two of those shows have been cancelled after one season. They now have two shows; lock and key was renewed for s2, but there's no indication of when it can go into production, and Wynonna Earp which IIRC was on the chopping block after s3. Wynonna Earp has had massive production issues last year and now they can't even film the thing

Oh right, how I could I forget about IDW? I could definitely see them on the chopping block next with these shows flopping. Their comic division definitely won't save them when anything not TMNT can barely make it to 15k units consistently. A shame that Sonic doesn't sell well. It's one of the good ones that isn't selling politics or identity and is purely about the adventure. I think I'd be legitimately sad if this managed to kill the Sonic comics for good

 

[Gee Willows Wilson!]

Lion forge is dead

Spoiler: article

Polarity LTD has confirmed to Newsarama that it has closed its animation/comics development subsidiary Lion Forge Labs, with all employees laid off. "Due to rapidly changing economic conditions and the profound impact on marketing and advertising budgets globally, we made the very difficult decision to close Lion Forge Labs, our B2B creative services agency," read a statement from a Polarity representative.

According to Lion Forge Labs' website, the agency employed "over twenty people" - however Polarity didn’t specify the current total size of their now-laid-off staff. The St. Louis-based Lion Forge Labs developed comics, animation, and content for gaming to other companies including Microsoft, the United Way, and the St. Louis Cardinals. It was a sister company to Oni Press, Lion Forge Comics, Lion Forge Animation, and other businesses under the Polarity LTD umbrella.

Back in May 2019, many of the Lion Forge Comics division's staff were laid off as it merged with the newly-acquired Oni Press. Polarity acquired the comic news outlet The Beat in 2017, but the site returned to founder Heidi MacDonald's ownership in January 2020.

Newsarama | GamesRadar+

www.newsarama.com

The pie in the sky comichub app that was being championed as the saviour of the industry less than 48h ago is also not going ahead.
Read no publisher was interested.

Newsarama | GamesRadar+

www.newsarama.com

I can't believe THE Gail Simone, inventor of females in comics, innovator of the DC vs MARVEL idea, and super successful YouTuber couldn't help bring interest to her failure of a company... This is truly, the BIGGEST shock to come out of the industry collapse.

Yeah. the actors should bail out the comic shops because reasons. They don't owe the shops shit, most of the people who saw their movies never touched a comic

Cully Hamner on Twitter

“@Doncates Like if any of the main actors and/or directors of the Big Two comics movies "adopted" a comics retailer and paid their rent for 6 months to a year? Would be cool...”

twitter.com

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And rip Lion Forge, not even Gail could save you from yourself. Well that's one company down, I wonder who's gonna be the next to fall

"Why doesn't the actor who played Hitler start a new Youth Group for Neo-Nazi? I mean, they poured their hearts into a fucking ROLE they played" That's not how this shit works you retard. You think Brie Larson knows anything about Captain Marvel? What about Chris Evans. You think Hemsworth grew up fighting crocodiles in Australia to get the newest run on Thor? People who think actors live and breathe the roles they play are incredibly ignorant. It's a very small few, but the majority? It was money.

Shut the FUCK up, Donny. You're out of your element! Comics are NOT successful to anyone outside of the industry. Movies don't need comics, comics need movies. That is why everytime a new film comes out you see a surge of that character returning to their own stories... It's not because the morons writing them actually care about telling their story. Actors in Hollywood don't owe anything to funny books. All these idiot comicbook writers/artists thinking they are fucking superstars because a small minority of people like their shit makes them influential. I'm so sick of seeing these Twitter people getting their dicks stroked on a posting website means they are something bigger than they are not. Your comics at best sell to 100k - AT BEST. Normies know about Black Panther because of the film, and you think they went out and bought Ta-Nehisi's three failed runs after it? No.

 

[Detrogen]

Oh right, how I could I forget about IDW? I could definitely see them on the chopping block next with these shows flopping. Their comic division definitely won't save them when anything not TMNT can barely make it to 15k units consistently. A shame that Sonic doesn't sell well. It's one of the good ones that isn't selling politics or identity and is purely about the adventure. I think I'd be legitimately sad if this managed to kill the Sonic comics for good

To be fair, IDW manages to fuck up Sonic as well (albeit in a more mild way than they have, say, Transformers). They have a handful of artists on the series, only one of whom is of a higher caliber. The writer, who’s been writing books for the series for over a decade, is dead-set on imposing his own personal headcanon onto the series. They then gave said writer a 5 issue miniseries to shill his shitty Do-Not-Steal original characters. They veered a bit off the beaten path with the Team Sonic Racing one-shot, but the actual ongoing series has basically devolved into “Sonic Zombies” when not retreading old plot elements from the games, and it hasn’t even hit issue 30.

 

[Smug Freiza]

And rip Lion Forge, not even Gail could save you from yourself. Well that's one company down, I wonder who's gonna be the next to fall

IDW, Dark Horse, Boom, Valiant possibly even Dynamite. Theres so many options to choose from.

My money would be on IDW, Valiant or Dark Horse though. IDW is bleeding money year over year, Valiant has gone full woke-shit and their sales are in the toilet and Dark Horse has lost the Star Wars brand which was their only real money maker. Any one of those three would be my guess.

 

[Detrogen]

IDW, Dark Horse, Boom, Valiant possibly even Dynamite. Theres so many options to choose from.

My money would be on IDW, Valiant or Dark Horse though. IDW is bleeding money year over year, Valiant has gone full woke-shit and their sales are in the toilet and Dark Horse has lost the Star Wars brand which was their only real money maker. Any one of those three would be my guess.

Definitely not Dynamite. While they make most of their money on licenses like IDW, they’ve proven to be willing to focus on what sells (i.e. quality and sex appeal). Even going so far as to let EVS, Billy Tucci, and Dan Fraga make overpriced variants for their books. Of all the indies out there Dynamite is ready and willing to adapt, and I hope they get the support they deserve for it.

 

[Uranus Pink]

İsn't Dark Horse one of the largest manga publishers in North Amsrica or they did something stupid again?