Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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Good news! Data is promising and seems the curve is coming down. Spain might be recovering quite nicely but of course the way down is always slower than the way up in flattened curves. We're still stocking shit so the PPE situation is still worrying. But production keeps being ramped up so it seems like we'll stop depending on buying shit soon enough, and once we're back to work might be ready to start exporting a lot of ventilators and PPE. The test situation is still completelt fucked but steadly getting unfucked.

Sadly as the situation gets better the politics get worse as the right realizes it NEEDS to shit on the left before it's too late. They've gone full fascist with the rhetoric and seem desperate for even the slightest point, which makes them even more insuferable than usually. If this doesn't stop soon the pollarization might do some real damage, so far the left hasn't responded in kind and has done all it can to ensure cooperation, but much like the little kids they are the right wing's just taking the chance to poke some more and see what it takes to wake the bear. We'll see how far they go but had the president been like Rajoi many would now be in prison over "terrorist threat" and other such bollocks. The part that really disapoints me is Vox going back to being the PP's dog. They were almost good. We almost got a right that isn't neocon bullshit. But that's a pipedream now. Even if Vox overtakes the PP they'll just be the PP but louder if they keep down this path. I think the americans can relate only mirrored. Why are people like this? I swear, there's nothing I hate more than people who are LOUDLY worthless. If you won't help. At least don't bitch and act entitled.

As for the hospital. We still lack tests and PPE. And our ventilator situation is still... well at least now we got a few monkey builds and can hook up multiple beds, but you know, it's worrying. But overall it's fine. Morale could be better but it could be a lot worse. The long shifts and stress is a bit straining, but nothing too worrying so far.

lel NATO. Countries are just straight up carjacking each other’s medical equipment

And that was the next news. Turkey straight up steals equipment paid for by spain. Also seems the prior "aid" was equally paid for by spain and they only acted as glorified truckers while being propagandistic about it. Remind me again why we aren't declaring a crusade on the goatfuckers?
 
Havent posted about Finland updates in few days, honestly because no much has happened asside from restaraunt restrictions becoming official. Numbers havent risen that drastically either except for today when we got 5 deaths in one day which might not sound too big compared to other countries.

Confirmed cases: 1 882
Hospital: 187
Intensive care: 73
Deaths: 25
 
According to "China uncensored", Taiwan reported to the WHO on December 31, that its doctors had been told by doctors on the mainland that there was uncontrolled human to human spread of Covid-19.

The WHO never alerted other member nations of the report. 2 weeks later on January 14, The WHO would tweet out that there was no human to human transmission. (:_(

 
And on news that boil your blood. Certain autonomies, which just so happen to all be led by the PP and no non-PP led autonomy has done this so far... coincidence I'm sure, including Andalucia, have decided easter is not a holyday anymore.

Now you might think that's obvious. Everyone's home except those that are needed. That's not the problem. Problem is those who work on holyday are compensated, with extra pay. Now. Spanish healthcare professionals aren't getting hazard pay, or any bonus, or ANYTHING even for the long turns. They've been pulling double shifts without sufficient PPE in the middle of a logistical nightmare and a societal warzone for what feels like ages. And now they're being told they're gonna be paid even less than they normally would be.

Needless to say the unions are already telling everyone they'll handle it and escalating the fuck out of it. Last thing we need now is for morale to collapse. I swear the right's just gone full kamikaze.
 
The WHO never alerted other member nations of the report. 2 weeks later on January 14, The WHO would tweet out that there was no human to human transmission.

That was transparently bullshit regardless of what Taiwan reported

https://web.archive.org/web/2020040...0/01/23/health/china-virus-who-emergency.html

Jan. 23, 2020 The World Health Organization on Thursday decided not to declare the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak a global emergency, despite the spread of the dangerous respiratory infection from China to at least five other countries.

Although the disease has reached beyond China, the number of cases in other countries is still relatively small, and the disease does not seem to be spreading within those countries, agency officials said. Of more than 800 cases now reported, the wide majority — and all the 25 deaths — have been in China, according to Chinese officials.

“At this time, there is no evidence of human-to-human transmission outside China,” Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, the W.H.O.’s director general, said at a news conference in Geneva. “That doesn’t mean it won’t happen.”

“Make no mistake,” he added. “This is an emergency in China, but it has not yet become a global health emergency. It may yet become one.”

The committee weighing the decision was divided, its chairman, Dr. Didier Houssin, said during the briefing. Some members felt the course of the outbreak warranted an emergency declaration now, but others said it that was too soon to decide, citing the limited number of cases in countries outside China as well as the country’s efforts to contain the virus.

Emergency declarations can appear to single out one country as a threat to the rest of the world. Dr. Houssin said the committee also considered the potential impact of its decision on people in China.

So there were 800 cases in multiple countries. That must imply human to human transmission unless they all caught it from the same bat. And the WHO admitted they were divided on whether to declare an emergency but did not do so because it would appear to single out one country.

Even as late as February 3rd, when there were 17,238 confirmed infections in China including 361 deaths, as well as 151 confirmed cases in 23 countries the WHO were advising against travel bans and China's WHO delegate used this to attack countries that had issued travel bans 'seriously against the recommendation by the WHO', which meant the US.


FEBRUARY 3, 2020 China’s delegate took the floor at the WHO Executive Board and denounced measures by “some countries” that have denied entry to people holding passports issued in Hubei province - at the center of the outbreak - and to deny visas and cancel flights.

“All these measures are seriously against recommendation by the WHO,” said Li Song, who is China’s ambassador for disarmament at the United Nations in Geneva.

So singling out a country is bad when it comes to an emergency declaration. Singling out the US for a travel ban against WHO recommendation? Totally fine!

I think it's pretty clear the WHO or at least Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus were covering shit up for China. Incidentally Ghebreyesus doesn't even have a medical degree. He's got a BSc from the University of Amhara and then joined the Derg as a junior health public expert.


Tedros was born in 1965 in Asmara,[16] Eritrea, to Adhanom Gebreyesus and Melashu Weldegabir. The family originated from the Enderta awrajja of the province of Tigray and, as a child, he recalls being "fully cognizant of the needless suffering and deaths" caused by malaria.[7] In 1986 he received his Bachelor of Science (BSc) degree in Biology from the University of Asmara[17] and joined the Ministry of Health of the Derg as a junior public health expert.[18]

After the fall of Mengistu Haile Mariam, Tedros returned to university to pursue a Master of Science (MSc) degree in Immunology of Infectious Diseases from the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine[4] at the University of London. He subsequently received a PhD in community health from the University of Nottingham in 2000, for research investigating the effects of dams on the transmission of malaria in the Tigray region of Ethiopia.[19]

What was the Derg you may ask? It was a Communist junta with a pretty unsavory record in both human rights and health


The Derg was established in June 1974 as the Coordinating Committee of the Armed Forces, Police and Territorial Army, by low-ranking officers of the Ethiopian Army and police led by Chairman Aman Andom. The Derg was formally renamed the Provisional Military Administrative Council and in September 1974 overthrew the government of the Ethiopian Empire and Emperor Haile Selassie during mass protests. The Derg abolished the monarchy and embraced communism as an ideology, establishing Ethiopia as a Marxist-Leninist one-party state with itself as the vanguard party in a provisional government. The abolition of feudalism, increased literacy, nationalization, and sweeping land reform including the resettlement and villagization from the Ethiopian Highlands became priorities. Mengistu Haile Mariam became Chairman in 1977, launching the Qey Shibir to eliminate political opponents, with tens of thousands imprisoned and executed without trial.[4]

By the mid-1980s, Ethiopia was ravaged by various issues such as droughts, economic decline, the 1983–1985 famine, increasing reliance on foreign aid, mismanagement, corruption, the after-effects of failed Derg policies, the Eritrean War of Independence, and the Ethiopian Civil War between the Derg and United States-backed ethnic militias. In 1987, Mengistu abolished the Derg and formed the People's Democratic Republic of Ethiopia led by the Workers' Party of Ethiopia, with a new government dominated by surviving members of the Derg.[5]

The Derg itself estimated that there were more than one million Ethiopian deaths from famine during its time in power.[6]

Basically he got a BSc from a dodgy university probably based more on who he knew than what he knew and then joined a hellish Communist regime responsible for the mass death of its own citizens.
 
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Now if we're locked in, how will we continue to breed as a species? Wouldn't that necessitate the abandonment of the so-called monogamous sexual relationship, I mean, as far as men were concerned?
Do I get a man harem? A few big strapping six foot four chaps to finally sort the garden out and build me a pergola would be absolutely lovely. If one of them can cook as well even better.

I’m hearing ivermectin has been found to have antiviral effects. Seems like an in vitro study only but anything that’s already out there and safe should be followed up vigorously. Let me try to find a reference

Edited to add references in. Monash - not surprised, they’re a pretty good institution


Archive; https://archive.li/Qq6vp

And I shouldn’t need to say this, but for anyone hard of thinking now this thread is public , some of the dosages of this that people have around for agricultural use are not something you want to ingest as a human. Remember the tank cleaner lady? Don’t be the next idiot who does that.
 
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Russia continues sending aid all over the place, including the US -

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/04/03/russia-sends-military-coronavirus-aid-to-serbia-a69864
http://archive.li/QaxVE

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/02/politics/russia-medical-supplies-us-propaganda/index.html
http://archive.li/DumwB

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/world/europe/coronavirus-us-russia-aid.html
http://archive.li/0ZYvo

I don't doubt there is a political motive here but these think pieces sicken me a bit with how over the top they are painting this like some 4-d chess move from Putin. Like this can't just be a global power sending humanitarian aid to fellow humans in need. The US one is especially baffling. Trump could have easily said no we got it handled thanks, but didn't. Guess this gives all those Drumpf if a Russian plant people a big raging hard-on.

Same thing with the political dick waving I see in the US from what people have posted here with local governors, mayors and whatever falling over themselves to shit on Trump. This is a major crisis and is not the time for your petty politics. When all is said and done you will look like a massive tool after this.

I hope they check the DME for listening devices and spyware first.
 
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Now if we're locked in, how will we continue to breed as a species? Wouldn't that necessitate the abandonment of the so-called monogamous sexual relationship, I mean, as far as men were concerned?

Screw the trumpbux, gimme a government-issued harem. If such a thing were to happen, would that mean Trump made anime real? Bring on the big tittied, goth concubines!
 
Do I get a man harem? A few big strapping six foot four chaps to finally sort the garden out and build me a pergola would be absolutely lovely. If one of them can cook as well even better.

I’m hearing ivermectin has been found to have antiviral effects. Seems like an in vitro study only but anything that’s already out there and safe should be followed up vigorously. Let me try to find a reference
OOoo really? We have jugs of Ivermectin around the farm as a pour on for lice and worms in cattle. Better go pour myself a nice tall glass.

You know some dumb prepper is going to the hospital for dosing themselves with goat dewormer.
 
I am somewhat suspicious of these videos. It just seems so convenient that someone would be there to film it, and that the person would keep doing it while obviously being filmed.

No joke - there was a video PAGES back of a Chinese woman smearing her used tissue on a park bench. This is INCREDIBLY suspicious behavior and makes you start to believe the CCP are doing this on purpose. Spreading their fucking bioweapon.

EDIT: Here it fucking is - it's weird as shit. We need to compile more videos of this because this is just too strange

 
The next week my town will begin to provide facemasks to all the citizens, just in time to replace my last mask. At least there's something that works. Here in Italy schools won't open until September, all the students will pass to the next year and the ones who hadn't good scores will have the chance to take exams in September to improve their grades. There are still online classes, tho.

One thing I noticed is that this quarantine is really beginning to wear people down. If the problem will not be solved, or at least lessened, by June, people will start to freak out. I've spoken to a few of my colleagues, and a couple of them are showing symptoms of depression. One of my relatives is stressed out because he still works and two days ago he was brought to the police station because the officers didn't believe him when he told them he was out because he had to work. The only positive thing is that my region hasn't a widespread contagion, at least not yet, because of the measures that had been taken before we had any case of infection. Truth is, we are all very, very tired.

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This is maybe the worst idea I've seen so far during this crisis.


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Might as well just burn those hotels down now to save time. They will burn or get so trashed they have to be knocked down.
Maybe that is the real intention. The hotel owners are likely friends with the local politicians. Get paid 2x the value for buildings that where already losing money before this.
 
How's everybody doing? Found this helpful chart.

coping levels using bears.jpg


Spanish healthcare professionals aren't getting hazard pay, or any bonus, or ANYTHING even for the long turns. They've been pulling double shifts without sufficient PPE in the middle of a logistical nightmare and a societal warzone for what feels like ages. And now they're being told they're gonna be paid even less than they normally would be.
Pero cuánto hijoputa suelto. Ni con la que está cayendo dejan de joder.
 
??? Why the fuck would someone in the Pacific watching the people under his protection die care about a Democrat narrative? Not everything in the world revolves around the DNC or US domestic politics you exceptional individual.
No one "under his care" has even been hospitalized. They're all in good health because they're physically fit and not diabetic.
 
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