Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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I was in a zoom focus group last night-- this was a cross-section of people 18 to 49 from all over the USA. They were asking us about marketing movies direct to home viewing. The last thing they asked us about was going back to theaters after corona-chan is over. Everyone else said that they would be going right back as soon as it was over in May or June.

I said we don't know if this will mutate and come back in the fall, or if a new virus will come along after this one, or how long this one will keep on going. I have people I am responsible for, so I didn't know if or when I would be going back to theaters. I could get them sick, and with one of them, I could get an entire nursing home sick.

I could see the faces of the other participants, and they all instantly got this look of horror. It was clear that none of them had ever thought about this lasting more than a couple of weeks, or about another virus happening. Maybe I need to make more of an effort to hang around more stupid people, but I was a little taken aback that none of them had anticipated that the world might not go back to the way it was after this.
There will ALWAYS be a new plague, an aggressive strain of flu, a possible terrorist attack, plane crash, fire, ece. You, presumably, went back to the theaters after the swine flu outbreak of 2009. Why didnt you stop then? How did you know that H1N1 wouldnt mutate into a deadlier strain?

You think of others before yourself, and while commendable, there is another way to interpret your thoughts - fear. Paralyzing fear. No different then the people who refused to ever fly or travel out of state in 2002 because "WHAT IF THERES A TERRORIST!!!?!?!?".

If you want to live in a shelter-in-place capacity until the risk of pandemic is over, you'll spend the rest of your life in fear of catching the coof. Not wanting to cower in the corner over the possibility of catching a virus for the rest of your life is hardly stupidity.
 
Taiwan's CDC seems to be nailing this, but what is the deal with Taiwan and WHO?



Up until 2016 Taiwan was a member of the WHO. China stomps on anyone or any NGO or UN organization that treats Taiwan as a Nation, and not merely a Chinese Province. The WHO is not allowed to deal with Taiwan because China demands any and all dealings regarding Taiwan go through China. The next time you see some miserable SJW Leftist moaning about the Palestinians, remember this. Taiwan is a fully functioning First World Industrialized Democracy. One of the strongest and wealthiest economies in the world. Their GDP puts them somewhere between #20 and 25 worldwide. Yet they are refused any international representation. They are refused a seat at the UN that the same people refusing them demand the Palestinians, who have never had a functional government, nation or economy ever be granted as a moral imperative.
 
No joke - there was a video PAGES back of a Chinese woman smearing her used tissue on a park bench. This is INCREDIBLY suspicious behavior and makes you start to believe the CCP are doing this on purpose. Spreading their fucking bioweapon.

EDIT: Here it fucking is - it's weird as shit. We need to compile more videos of this because this is just too strange

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Why aren't there more videos of them doing stuff like this? I've seen them doing stuff like spitting on the ground and I know their hygiene is terrible, but footage of them just spreading snot around like this ought to be more plentiful if it's a deliberate thing.

This strikes me as more of a cheapskate thing than a deliberate virus spreader. I know because I come from a family that wasn't poor, but they always made up for it by pretending that we were. I think she wiped the tissue on the bench because she wanted to use the tissue again later.
 
Why aren't there more videos of them doing stuff like this? I've seen them doing stuff like spitting on the ground and I know their hygiene is terrible, but footage of them just spreading snot around like this ought to be more plentiful if it's a deliberate thing.

This strikes me as more of a cheapskate thing than a deliberate virus spreader. I know because I come from a family that wasn't poor, but they always made up for it by pretending that we were. I think she wiped the tissue on the bench because she wanted to use the tissue again later.

Yeah I'm having trouble seeing the CCP managing to recruit many Middle Aged or Older Chinese Grannies to spread disease via spreading snot on foreign park benches. More likely some insanely stupid ethnic old people practice such as you say "attempting to clean the tissue for reuse."
 
Yeah I'm having trouble seeing the CCP managing to recruit many Middle Aged or Older Chinese Grannies to spread disease via spreading snot on foreign park benches. More likely some insanely stupid ethnic old people practice such as you say "attempting to clean the tissue for reuse."
They're not being paid, they're just vile people who hate everyone around them. You see this attitude inside China a lot. They don't respect anyone.
 
Not seen this posted yet: if you are bored, faintly alarmed by CDC advice, have a sewing machine or patience to hand sew, and some craft cotton on hand, this is a very straightforward pattern with a video too for fabric face masks. Obviously this are not PPE standard but... if you want something to cover your face with, this is something.

I’ve made a few for family etc and put them in with food deliveries. It might well be useless but it feels like doing something, you know?

 
There will ALWAYS be a new plague, an aggressive strain of flu, a possible terrorist attack, plane crash, fire, ece. You, presumably, went back to the theaters after the swine flu outbreak of 2009. Why didnt you stop then? How did you know that H1N1 wouldnt mutate into a deadlier strain?

You think of others before yourself, and while commendable, there is another way to interpret your thoughts - fear. Paralyzing fear. No different then the people who refused to ever fly or travel out of state in 2002 because "WHAT IF THERES A TERRORIST!!!‽‽?".

If you want to live in a shelter-in-place capacity until the risk of pandemic is over, you'll spend the rest of your life in fear of catching the coof. Not wanting to cower in the corner over the possibility of catching a virus for the rest of your life is hardly stupidity.

When I give a shit about your interpretations, I'll let you know.
 
You know some dumb prepper is going to the hospital for dosing themselves with goat dewormer.
You know it’s going to happen, I know it’s going to happen, the only thing is where and when ...

One thing I noticed is that this quarantine is really beginning to wear people down. If the problem will not be solved, or at least lessened, by June, people will start to freak out. I've spoken with a few of my colleagues, and a couple of them are showing symptoms of depression.
People won’t stay locked up. The fine denizens of this forum are rather skewed towards people who would be just fine staying in, but most people can’t handle it. I’m fine staying in, but staying in with kids is hard - they need to be out and playing. Most people cannot stay away from each other, and they do get depressed when isolated.
En mass, you can’t have a lockdown for more than a few weeks because people just won’t obey, and it only takes a few interactions to make it pointless. We dont have many governments which are both ruthless enough and capable enough to keep ALL people home. Plenty of ruthless ones but not many are efficient enough to actually police it.
It’s going to be warm this coming week and over Easter in the UK - people won’t stay in. In places where it’s really hot, and no air conditioning, not a hope in hell.
So where now? Economies fucked, people rioting, and disease everywhere. Countries will end up doing an uneasy dance of recurring lockdowns, and each time people will comply less. Or they will go the Swedish route and have a halfway house, and hope that works enough to get everyone, or enough people, immune by the autumn.
 
Coronavirus patients delivered to hospital ship Comfort in New York by mistake: US officials
https://www.foxnews.com/us/coronavirus-patients-delivered-comfort-ship-new-york-mistake (http://archive.vn/dlWLd)

Fuck me, deliberate or not?

I’m hearing ivermectin has been found to have antiviral effects. Seems like an in vitro study only but anything that’s already out there and safe should be followed up vigorously. Let me try to find a reference

I'm using F10SC, wonder how it compares?
 
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Not seen this posted yet: if you are bored, faintly alarmed by CDC advice, have a sewing machine or patience to hand sew, and some craft cotton on hand, this is a very straightforward pattern with a video too for fabric face masks. Obviously this are not PPE standard but... if you want something to cover your face with, this is something.

I’ve made a few for family etc and put them in with food deliveries. It might well be useless but it feels like doing something, you know?


My Wife's been doing this. Here are a few other tips regarding materials


The big takeaway. Two Layers of good quilters cotton plus an inner layer of flannel seems to be rated at about 79% effectiveness. Which is damn close to a non-respirator n95's 80%. And will probably make a huge difference in spread if everybody is wearing as it reduces both incoming and outgoing Kung Flu. So if both the unknowing asymptomatic CV positive person and the person next to them are wearing masks the chances of person to person airborne spread are vastly reduced. And they are launderable. As opposed to using paper filter inserts in them. Not good enough for health care workers who are in direct contact with known infected people in various levels of respiratory distress. But a huge bonus for the normies alongside social distancing.
 
I was in a zoom focus group last night-- this was a cross-section of people 18 to 49 from all over the USA. They were asking us about marketing movies direct to home viewing. The last thing they asked us about was going back to theaters after corona-chan is over. Everyone else said that they would be going right back as soon as it was over in May or June.

I said we don't know if this will mutate and come back in the fall, or if a new virus will come along after this one, or how long this one will keep on going. I have people I am responsible for, so I didn't know if or when I would be going back to theaters. I could get them sick, and with one of them, I could get an entire nursing home sick.

I could see the faces of the other participants, and they all instantly got this look of horror. It was clear that none of them had ever thought about this lasting more than a couple of weeks, or about another virus happening. Maybe I need to make more of an effort to hang around more stupid people, but I was a little taken aback that none of them had anticipated that the world might not go back to the way it was after this.

People think it's going to end soon because this is what TPTB want them to think. If people realized where this may be going--lockdown for 3-6 more months, total home restriction besides govt mandated shopping days at designated stores for food only, complete shutdown of general merchandise production/shopping/delivery, bank closures, and harsh military/police enforecement, they would riot. Even if some things were reopened, we could see major restrictions on work/shopping and travel for a year, and a permenant erosion of civil liberties. Not to mention the resulting major Depression and mass unemployment.

What I see going on in certain states and countries leads me to believe more and more this is the trend, and it has been the endgame for some time. I think they smartly eased us into it, rolling out closures and restrictions piecemeal, because if they'd locked us down fully a month ago, it would have been anarchy.

Remember, in the US, we are still days or weeks away from the peak. By the middle of the month we could see thousands dying every day and hospitals as overwhelmed as those early Wuhan leaked videos. When we get to that point, expect more restrictions, and expect them to go on a long time.
 
You know it’s going to happen, I know it’s going to happen, the only thing is where and when ...


People won’t stay locked up. The fine denizens of this forum are rather skewed towards people who would be just fine staying in, but most people can’t handle it. I’m fine staying in, but staying in with kids is hard - they need to be out and playing. Most people cannot stay away from each other, and they do get depressed when isolated.
En mass, you can’t have a lockdown for more than a few weeks because people just won’t obey, and it only takes a few interactions to make it pointless. We dont have many governments which are both ruthless enough and capable enough to keep ALL people home. Plenty of ruthless ones but not many are efficient enough to actually police it.
It’s going to be warm this coming week and over Easter in the UK - people won’t stay in. In places where it’s really hot, and no air conditioning, not a hope in hell.
So where now? Economies fucked, people rioting, and disease everywhere. Countries will end up doing an uneasy dance of recurring lockdowns, and each time people will comply less. Or they will go the Swedish route and have a halfway house, and hope that works enough to get everyone, or enough people, immune by the autumn.

Speaking of temperatures ....

Can we sanitize masks by putting them in the freezer or the oven? Or the microwave?

(accounting for plastic, rubber or metal parts ...)

I remember a while back, one of my room mates put a wet sponge in the microwave for a minute to sanitize it and it seemed to work. Sponge came out with less odors.

Also how about a UV light wand?
 
Can we please have a "Chinese Content" rating, akin to the "Islamic content"?

It should be a coronavirus!

@Null

And perhaps a mini corona-shaped germ rating for corona-related paranoia? Like a spikey circle thing?

There's a great Corona icon here

https://emojipedia.org/microbe/

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