Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata

[Ryanstartedthefire]

Spoiler: Tatiana's identity reveal

Yesterday, Tatiana revealed that she is not Trisha Paytas but a young woman named Jessica suffering from many different mental illnesses. She talks about how the Trisha Paytas "Meet the Alters" video made her think she also had DID and made her own video talking about it on another channel. Chloe's tumblr DID army attacked her, saying to kill herself and they hope she gets raped.

Jessica goes into detail about her many different diagnosises, including unspecified personality disorder, ADHD, Bipolar Disorder. She is a self described "danger to society" and has been told she is a psychopath by medical professionals. Her mother has schizophrenia and Jessica has been in and out of group/foster homes.

She describes a traumatic kidnapping and gang rape as well as her experience as a cam girl/sex-worker.

Her overall purpose for creating the videos was to lash out at Chloe's destructive cult community.

This is a prime example of how the YouTube Factitious DID community is hurting people with legitimate mental illnesses. If Chloe wasn't spreading misinformation about DID, Trisha wouldn't have thought DID was the route of her own identity struggles and created her video which in turn, lead Jessica to believe that it might be an explanation for hers as well. Its also interesting to see that Chloe has transformed into some DID gatekeeper.

 

[Cooking Mama]

Spoiler: Tatiana's identity reveal

Yesterday, Tatiana revealed that she is not Trisha Paytas but a young woman named Jessica suffering from many different mental illnesses. She talks about how the Trisha Paytas "Meet the Alters" video made her think she also had DID and made her own video talking about it on another channel. Chloe's tumblr DID army attacked her, saying to kill herself and they hope she gets raped.

Jessica goes into detail about her many different diagnosises, including unspecified personality disorder, ADHD, Bipolar Disorder. She is a self described "danger to society" and has been told she is a psychopath by medical professionals. Her mother has schizophrenia and Jessica has been in and out of group/foster homes.

She describes a traumatic kidnapping and gang rape as well as her experience as a cam girl/sex-worker.

Her overall purpose for creating the videos was to lash out at Chloe's destructive cult community.

This is a prime example of how the YouTube Factitious DID community is hurting people with legitimate mental illnesses. If Chloe wasn't spreading misinformation about DID, Trisha wouldn't have thought DID was the route of her own identity struggles and created her video which in turn, lead Jessica to believe that it might be an explanation for hers as well. Its also interesting to see that Chloe has transformed into some DID gatekeeper.

Holy shit my sides are now orbiting the planet as we speak. I wonder how Chloe (and perhaps Nan) will respond, if at all. Oh, wait, I’m sure they’ll still play the victim and the fans will still yell about how Tatiana was bullying Chloe and probably even say that her illnesses/disorders aren’t an excuse despite excusing Chloe and Nan for the questionable shit they do.

ETA:



new vid should be up soon, oh boy. Also hoping someone links her to the Tatiana vid and asks her about how her fans bullied the hell out of her.

 

[comrade666]

I know I’ve said it before, but it really just baffles me how shit Chloe is at covering her tracks. At this point, it just feels brazen, but I’m sure she never thought that anyone would be able to dig up her past or that she could just cry, “omg they’re lying and bullying me by spreading false info and fake caps! They totally photoshopped that!” or some shit. Mark my words. Especially the fake screen cap part.

I honestly think she thought that by claiming vague trauma and dropping hints here and there when it suited her no one would dare examine her story. The shield of 'but muh trauma' isn't as powerful when it isn't real. The problem with lying about trauma is that once you've been discovered there really is no turning back. Real victims of abuse don't deserve to be used as a stepping stone to social media success. She's already pulled the 'haters are my abusers' card.

I do agree that we shouldn’t really involve anyone from her life that isn’t involved with her DID shenanigans. However, could you just blur out their faces to mask their identity should you choose to post pics?

I don't mind referring to her Mother by name as she has been referenced on Chloe's social medias. I don't mind referring to her friends and former partners either as they've chosen to involve themselves, been directly referenced by Chloe, or are somehow significant in her timeline. For the time being though, I don't feel there is much need to discuss her family as individuals if they've chosen to distance themselves from her behaviour. If the time comes when they step in or speak up then I'll reevaluate my stance on them. For now, they've stayed quiet, don't have a large online presence, and from what Chloe says are genuinely embarrassed by her antics so I don't feel the need to post pictures or links!

The level of trauma required to produce DID is almost always more severe than that of PTSD.

Chloe says that DID is the 'very worst form of PTSD' and as you described the kind of horrific abuse that would lead to that diagnosis is not something that would have gone unnoticed. Her parents, her teachers, her friends parents, her neighbours, her grandparents who she claims to have been close with. They would have noticed and intervened. It was England. Those things aren't swept aside.

Spoiler: Tatiana's identity reveal

Yesterday, Tatiana revealed that she is not Trisha Paytas but a young woman named Jessica suffering from many different mental illnesses. She talks about how the Trisha Paytas "Meet the Alters" video made her think she also had DID and made her own video talking about it on another channel. Chloe's tumblr DID army attacked her, saying to kill herself and they hope she gets raped.

Jessica goes into detail about her many different diagnosises, including unspecified personality disorder, ADHD, Bipolar Disorder. She is a self described "danger to society" and has been told she is a psychopath by medical professionals. Her mother has schizophrenia and Jessica has been in and out of group/foster homes.

She describes a traumatic kidnapping and gang rape as well as her experience as a cam girl/sex-worker.

Her overall purpose for creating the videos was to lash out at Chloe's destructive cult community.

This is a prime example of how the YouTube Factitious DID community is hurting people with legitimate mental illnesses. If Chloe wasn't spreading misinformation about DID, Trisha wouldn't have thought DID was the route of her own identity struggles and created her video which in turn, lead Jessica to believe that it might be an explanation for hers as well. Its also interesting to see that Chloe has transformed into some DID gatekeeper.

Wow. I can't wait to watch this. The fans who were so adamant it was Trisha must be scrambling for a new line.

 

[Bitchy Witchy]

Does anyone know which video she deleted recently? All week she’s had 119 videos, and now she just uploaded another but it’s still at 119 videos.

 

[comrade666]

Does anyone know which video she deleted recently? All week she’s had 119 videos, and now she just uploaded another but it’s still at 119 videos.

'A MAN IN A GIRLS BODY?! All About Alters: Part 1 | Debunking DID Ep:3' is missing from her channel. She claims that she re-filmed that as she named one of her littles. She uploaded 'ALL ABOUT ALTERS: Part 1 | Debunking DID Ep: 3 | Dissociative Identity Disorder' on 29 March to replace the original missing episode.
I'm not sure what else she deleted.

ETA:

New video from Nan claiming slander amongst other things.

 

[Ryanstartedthefire]

New video from Nan claiming slander amongst other things.

A vague response from Nan. "Its not an excuse to hurt people. Muh trauma, muh child abuse, muh abusers. Don't attack people even if they hurt you. I am but a simple alter. You only see what I show you. I didn't sign up for this. Dontsendhatedontsendhatedontsendhate. I'm tired now."

 

[DissociaDONT]

Apparently, Chloe has a new video up too. Haven't watched it yet, but it sounds like we're going to meet the new alter.

 

[Lieileen]

I think that's why I found it so important to lay it all out. Firstly so the newcomers can stop asking basic questions and read one post, and secondly because it really is quite clear to see what isn't adding up with her when you examine point by point.



It's another interesting example of her subtle deception. I think alone it might not be such a big deal but in the grand scheme of things when you consider the rest of her discrepancies it becomes significant. I don't think she was lying about being asked to leave university for treatment but I do think she wants us to believe she is better qualified than she is.
She talks about having gone to university for psychology as if that's significant but when you look at the timeline, she started at the very end of September and tried to kill herself in early December. She had two and a half months of that degree at maximum, and according to her she missed so many classes she was threatened with expulsion anyway. Her 'psychology undergrad' experience is barely worth mentioning yet she chose to.



Wouldn't that mean that Glass appeared before Kyle? Interesting. I'll add it to the timeline. And they called me optimistic for hoping she'd come out with some elaborate religious cult story



How unfortunate.



And yet she hints frequently on Twitter that living in her parents home was traumatic for her. We know what her trauma was. Her parents didn't buy her a Bop It. That's the only concrete thing she has ever said that I've actually believed. Whenever she addresses her parents in videos or collaborations she says they're very supportive. I've got pictures of her Mother I'm reluctant to post as they haven't asked to be involved in her bullshit and she has subtly accused them of them very damning things. I know you can never tell simply by looking at someone but her Mother is a very well put together woman. She posts mostly about her dog, Chloe, and Chloe's younger brother, who incidentally doesn't appear to suffer from any mental illness. Honestly, where is a 3 year old going for extended periods that the parents don't know about? How are they coming back with no signs of distress or injury if what happened to them was so damaging she went on to develop DID? It's a lie and I have no respect for the girl.

The fragment alters in the basement bent over barrels and chained to the walls and sitting in liquid? That sounds like something very extreme and very distressing. That sounds like ritualistic abuse or extreme abuse in the home. It makes me sick to think that she has dreamt up some of the worst things that could possibly happen to a child and claimed them as her own experience. What trauma survivor would build that kind of abuse into a game of the sims whilst talking cheerfully about the design of the basement in which they are trapped?

If she truly believes that these are real people, along with the those who are trapped in the forest still experiencing trauma flashbacks, then she is technically torturing these 'people' if we're using her logic. By not engaging with appropriate therapy and not working towards integration she is leaving these 'altars' trapped in the basement and forest suffering until 'the body ' dies. I don't believe DID works like that but if I did... what a fucking bitch.

How did you confirm it actually is Kay?

 

[comrade666]

A vague response from Nan. "Its not an excuse to hurt people. Muh trauma, muh child abuse, muh abusers. Don't attack people even if they hurt you. I am but a simple alter. You only see what I show you. I didn't sign up for this. Dontsendhatedontsendhatedontsendhate. I'm tired now."

"It is never ok to attack someone on the internet." -Nanette Zuniga, renowned child fetishising sneeze eroticist

Well that's convenient.

Apparently, Chloe has a new video up too. Haven't watched it yet, but it sounds like we're going to meet the new alter.

Haven't got the time to watch either but a quick glance at the comments references 'dark' one of her fragments. God.

How did you confirm it actually is Kay?

Because Chloe is in pictures with her and refers to her as her Mother, amongst other things.

 

[heavycream]

Here's some of the peak cognitive dissonance from the comments section on Tatiana's video:

1. Fans who assumed it was Trisha still adamant to find justification for their presumption:

2. Shaming Tatiana's bullying without once considering how vehemently and severely she was bullied, insulted and threatened by the bullies from DissociaDID's sheeple fandom.

(Plus a bonus from the same user who doesn't realize how inflammatory and insensitive this is to people with mental health conditions, and yet feels justified to point out others' 'mockery'.)

3. Another 'Your cyberbullying in my safespace was so bad that i had a conniption and split off another alter!!'

4. They're likening a couple negative videos on Chloe to 'domestic terrorism' .

 

[heterotic]

Anyone find it strange that one of the reasons Chloe gives for why DID was "sugested" as a "diagnosis" was because her therapist said she has met people who say 'sometimes you don't respond to your name'? (At 3:32)I've never heard of a therapist who has met various people in their patients lives, let alone talk to them enough to know how the patient and their acquaintances interact. Maybe in some certain circumstances but this sounds like a sit down therapist. So odd! Find something new everytime I see her videos!!

A therapist would never say this to someone. Patient confidentiality laws are incredibly strict, for one thing, but the other thing is that if this were true, telling this to your patient could be incredibly damaging.

It could've been during family therapy (also known as family systems therapy) or some sort of relationship therapy, in which the therapist often asks the family member or spouse/significant other how they notice their family member is mentally ill. Not responding to your name is a sign of autism though, not DID. However considering this was during Chloe's therapy traject and not someone else's she used as an example, this most likely isn't the result of family systems therapy, just her bad lying

Therapists will not see a patient alone and also engage in family or couples' therapy with the same patient. The therapist would be biased towards the patient they see on their own, and it would skew their ability be subjective. There is no scenario in which this topic would come up from a therapist unless those people were present, and the therapist wanted whomever said it to discuss it with Chloe.

This is just a lie.

In Chloe's defence, saying you're a psychology undergraduate doesn't mean you're saying you made it through your degree. That would make you a 'graduate'.
We all know she wants us to believe she has even a degree level qualification in psychology, though. Probably careful yet manipulative word choice on her part.

It does mean that you're a student, though, and Chloe was not a student. It's not a big deal, but it's an example of the small lies she tells that show us that she is very purposefully creative with her identity. (Like that one of her alters is a neuroscientist and microbiologist)

Bear in mind, this is also in a group chat of more than 200 members.

Attention. Seeking. Behavior.

Honestly I feel sorry for her, it's clear that there's something wrong but I can't believe it's DID. I agree with some others thoughts on the matter, that maybe she herself believes the lie which is very sad. I believe if Nan wasn't in the picture then Chloe wouldn't be getting this extreme (with the littles I mean) as she is.

There are many personality disorders in which lying are prevalent. It's hard to be sad for her about it when she's lying about having been a victim of child abuse, and alluding that it was sexual. Sexual abuse as a child is outright the most heinous thing on this planet. It destroys a person for the rest of their life. The things that Chloe says she misses about childhood, "being sooo happy and carefree, having an imagination that you could run away with" are things that children who grow up abused don't have, especially not victims of sexual abuse. Because even though there is amnesia, there's still a whole identity being built around neglect and typically other abuses as well, there is no general sense of glee and carelessness. The imagination is built around sexual organs, and it's why the signs of childhood sexual abuse often involve obsessions with sex and the bathroom.

How can I empathize with whatever Chloe is going through when she has the lack of empathy necessary to lie about having this happen to her?

Edit: Okay I got it mixed up slightly. In the video titled 'MEET OUR CHILDHOOD BEST FRIEND | Your DID Questions | Dissociative Identity Disorder' she says "A therapist had suggested it to me" and before she has stated that it was a nurse that had suggested it to her.

She has said a nurse suggested it to her, her therapist suggested it to her, and a member of the Crisis Team suggested it to her. Her story is as malleable as silly putty.

Here's a tweet from a Q&A from Glass the fairy.

So, apparently, Chloe's repeated and ritualized childhood trauma was at or before the age of 3???

Again, fucking heinous. On top of the fact that the brain doesn't start developing long-term memory until after the age of 3, making the idea that she developed DID before the brain was capable of doing so completely absurd.

DID doesn't just come from a one-off incident of sexual abuse or beating, it comes from living in an environment that is life-endangering and that brings horrific abuse regularly for a prolonged period of time. The level of trauma required to produce DID is almost always more severe than that of PTSD.
I think her parents, if they are aware of her claims, should be very appalled. Since - if they weren't the perpetrators (which would be unfeasible given that this had to happen <3 years into life) - they are at least implied as being very ignorant. The kind of neglect that would be necessary for a child to be that badly abused is the kind that could have their parental rights revoked if they have any other children.

This is why it's almost always incestuous sexual abuse, or there is other abuse and neglect (often substance abuse as well) going on in the home. For the trauma to be on-going it must be, as you said, someone in the child's life on essentially a daily basis over time. Family friends, daycare employees, babysitters, geographically close-by family members, neighbors.

This was not Chloe's childhood. Chloe's parents are beside themselves over how their child's happy, lovely childhood could have been a lie.

Spoiler: Tatiana's identity reveal

Yesterday, Tatiana revealed that she is not Trisha Paytas but a young woman named Jessica suffering from many different mental illnesses. She talks about how the Trisha Paytas "Meet the Alters" video made her think she also had DID and made her own video talking about it on another channel. Chloe's tumblr DID army attacked her, saying to kill herself and they hope she gets raped.

Jessica goes into detail about her many different diagnosises, including unspecified personality disorder, ADHD, Bipolar Disorder. She is a self described "danger to society" and has been told she is a psychopath by medical professionals. Her mother has schizophrenia and Jessica has been in and out of group/foster homes.

She describes a traumatic kidnapping and gang rape as well as her experience as a cam girl/sex-worker.

Her overall purpose for creating the videos was to lash out at Chloe's destructive cult community.

This is a prime example of how the YouTube Factitious DID community is hurting people with legitimate mental illnesses. If Chloe wasn't spreading misinformation about DID, Trisha wouldn't have thought DID was the route of her own identity struggles and created her video which in turn, lead Jessica to believe that it might be an explanation for hers as well. Its also interesting to see that Chloe has transformed into some DID gatekeeper.

Couldn't agree more. I have so much empathy for what this woman has been through and she is being cyber bullied by Chloe's mental health fetishist fan club.

Murmer (I honestly thought her name was Merma before now. NOW I hear Murmer.) is a trauma holder based on Wintertime and Halloween trauma. She lives in the river of their inner world, so I'm guessing she's not unlike Omega.

A mermaid named Murmer

 

[DissociaDONT]

Haven't got the time to watch either but a quick glance at the comments references 'dark' one of her fragments. God.

We got two new alters. Connor and DARK. Sounds like Dark might be an older persecutor. IDK. I skimmed through the video.

Ya know, when she mentioned doing a drawing video, I assumed it would be filming herself drawing. I didn't realize all the alters could use Photoshop.

 

[comrade666]

We got two new alters. Connor and DARK. Sounds like Dark might be an older persecutor. IDK. I skimmed through the video.

Ya know, when she mentioned doing a drawing video, I assumed it would be filming herself drawing. I didn't realize all the alters could use Photoshop.

I'll check it out to add Connor to the alters list. Has anyone died in the system to make way for Connor? I wonder if Dark is one of the fragments from the basement? If so, he's done well to unchain himself and learn how to use photoshop just to spite Trisha Paytas.

 

[Cooking Mama]

New video from Nan claiming slander amongst other things.

well, at least it was talked about. Too bad it’s so vague and Nan didn’t actually say who they’re addressing. Sus. You don’t wanna openly shame the WKs because you like having them run to your and Chloe’s defense, huh?

I don't mind referring to her Mother by name as she has been referenced on Chloe's social medias. I don't mind referring to her friends and former partners either as they've chosen to involve themselves, been directly referenced by Chloe, or are somehow significant in her timeline. For the time being though, I don't feel there is much need to discuss her family as individuals if they've chosen to distance themselves from her behaviour. If the time comes when they step in or speak up then I'll reevaluate my stance on them. For now, they've stayed quiet, don't have a large online presence, and from what Chloe says are genuinely embarrassed by her antics so I don't feel the need to post pictures or links!

I would also be embarrassed to be associated with her. But, yeah, I agree. No real need to post pics.

3. Another 'Your cyberbullying in my safespace was so bad that i had a conniption and split off another alter!!'

“I don’t agree with people saying these horrible things to you but I am going to reiterate what they said just so we’re clear that it’s not okay!”

 

[heterotic]

We got two new alters. Connor and DARK. Sounds like Dark might be an older persecutor. IDK. I skimmed through the video.

Ya know, when she mentioned doing a drawing video, I assumed it would be filming herself drawing. I didn't realize all the alters could use Photoshop.

She says that DARK was the first alter she knew about in the video... which is odd since she said in her interview with Toi that Kyle was the first alter she knew about.

Another thing in this video... at 11:10 she says, "We've had alters draw images of themselves with their mouths sewn shut... or their mouths taken away... the [alter] I've spoken to who has drawn themselves like that a lot is actually Mute [a supposedly locked alter]. I guess [giggling begins] the brain represented that because they were told that they couldn't talk about what happened; they weren't allowed to share what happened; they weren't allowed to tell anybody; it had to be kept a secret."

So the mute, locked alter, that you've talked to and fronts to draw themselves a lot. So glad she found another moment to infer she endured sexual abuse for years of her childhood while also finding another moment to contradict her own story. Right, got it.

 

[Cooking Mama]

We got two new alters. Connor and DARK. Sounds like Dark might be an older persecutor. IDK. I skimmed through the video.

Ya know, when she mentioned doing a drawing video, I assumed it would be filming herself drawing. I didn't realize all the alters could use Photoshop.

She says that DARK was the first alter she knew about in the video... which is odd since she said in her interview with Toi that Kyle was the first alter she knew about.

And used it better than most beginners even though it was “their first time using a tablet and drawing in photoshop.” And, as predicted, all the drawing styles look similar, though she tried hard to obfuscate that with Dark. Pretty convenient to have an alter that has no corporeal form that has never been mentioned until now when doing a video to compare drawing styles. That is my tinfoil hat theory for the day.

 

[Tomie Da Homie]

She explains at 5:00 that Connor is the new alter that appeared because of the whole Trisha Paytas drama. Connor is a name she liked as a child because of its "symmetry" and says it's "interesting" he would chose that name because it "was familiar to and reassuring to Chloe" when she was younger. She also mentions she "incorporated him into stories" so basically an old OC she brought out as a new alter. She describes him as having curly brown hair.

 

[comrade666]

She says that DARK was the first alter she knew about in the video... which is odd since she said in her interview with Toi that Kyle was the first alter she knew about.

And Glass showed up when she was three. And Kyle showed up when she was four. Or five. Or six. And she first dissociated when she was eight. But Dark came first. But she doesn't remember any of this because her alters were made to protect her so they keep all of this secret so she isn't exposed to her trauma. But her alters share their information in Twitter Q&As... on Chloe's account... that Chloe has access to... defeating the purpose of having alters to protect her from memories...

 

[DissociaDONT]

And used it better than most beginners even though it was “their first time using a tablet and drawing in photoshop.” And, as predicted, all the drawing styles look similar, though she tried hard to obfuscate that with Dark. Pretty convenient to have an alter that has no corporeal form that has never been mentioned until now when doing a video to compare drawing styles. That is my tinfoil hat theory for the day.

I'm still of the opinion that she has more or less convinced herself she has DID Final Fantasy House style. I doubt Dark was purposely invented for this video in particular or anything.

But, yeah, none of the drawing styles look different, and they're all the same level of competent with Photoshop. Was this just a stream of consciousness drawing session where alters conviniently came out on cue? Just kinda hit shuffle on the playlist?

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And fans are already stanning Dark. Mmm, a sexy void. A persecutor and manifestation of ritualized childhood trauma. The ultimate bad boy.

 

[Hankypanko]

I bust out laughing when Chloe went to draw tits and then scribbled them out when pretending to be a bloke. It’s so childish, like her new boy alter’s a petulant toddler that thinks girls will give him icky diseases.

I wonder if Dark has taken an art class, who would have thought a blob of gas would be so good at drawing