Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[2021Murder]

so who takes over if Boris dies?

 

[Otrium]

Here a double feature presentation where Timcast in these 2 vlogs NYC will bury Corona-chan deaths in parks and the leftist ideology eating itself thanks to Corona-chan.

You'd be more informed after listening to a hobo under a bridge after giving him magic mushrooms and a twelve pack of Budweiser than the clown college dropout known as Timcast.

 

[Army Burger]

so who takes over if Boris dies?

Dominic Raab

 

[Fareal]

so who takes over if Boris dies?

Dominic Raab is currently in charge. He would continue in post as an emergency replacement, probably until the end of the crisis. We couldn‘t manage another Tory leadership election during a pandemic.

 

[Cosmos]

If you aren't a self-centered cow and have people you care about that are older you'd be willing to take the hit economy wise for a higher assurance of them staying safe. We can rebuild the economy, you can't bring back the dead. As someone who has mostly older family myself, it's not about the fact that I would likely survive it if I caught it. It's that the only people I really care about have a much higher likelihood of dying.

These aren't just numbers. They aren't just some 60+ people who don't mean anything. A lot of them will be a now broken family struggling through the grief of not even getting to say goodbye, not having a funeral, not being in any way prepared to let these people go. Historically most other major death events still allowed you the comfort of seeing your dead or dying, being with them to end and comforting them and yourself with your presence. Corona doesn't even allow you that because it's magically contagious to the point it's too risky to allow visitors.



If it's not airborne in some fashion how is it spreading? It's moved astoundingly quickly for a something supposedly only spread if you pick up droplets or get a full blow of the too the face.

Even if it's only in droplets you'd think that they'd really start pushing the homemade masks at the very least when out in public even more because if you cough or sneeze unexpectedly into a piece of fabric it would significantly reduce your infectious sprays range and if both you and the un/infected person were masked it would result in it being that much harder for it to get out of their mask, through yours, and into you.

I agree with you 100%. All of these idiot pundits who are like “Older people, go out and save the economy because that’s more important than your life” can get bent.

Of fucking course the economy is important. But the economy can and will take hits and come back strong. Lives that are lost will never come back. Life is infinitely more valuable and irreplaceable than money or stocks ever can be.

My dad is 60 and has underlying health problems, but fortunately he’s able to work from home. But if he did take that stupid advice and try to go out and work “for the economy,” I would tell him to sit his dumb ass down and stay inside. My dad’s life is infinitely more valuable and precious to me than money could ever hope to be; I love him and my mom more than anything and I would do anything to protect them. I‘m sure most people would put their loved ones above money and the economy, too.

I also think it’s funny that the pundits going “muh economy, think of the children” are also usually the same people who argue against student debt relief and measures to protect the environment for future generations. Think of the next generation as long as it doesn’t impact the bottom line, I guess.

 

[Otterly]

Has anyone tried blood transfusions as an approach? I’m going back to that first JAMA case series and looking at the labs. The red cells are wiped out, just nuked. These patients are having an acute crisis, over an hour or two that’s ending up with them on vents and really high pressure is being used, often to no avail.
I wonder if at least part of the issue is the blood side of the equation. Is that rapid decline an acute haemolytic crisis?

Edited to add: bung a few units of O neg into our PM please. It can’t hurt.

 

[Barnard]

Polish numbers: 311 new cases, a mere 7,6% growth, but also a huge drop in daily tests. Whatever, it's still just hiccups after that change in daily reporting. I'm guessing between 350-400 confirmed cases and 6000-7000 tests for tomorrow. But that's not the main point of interest. Everyone was talking about May today.

You see, there's a presidential election coming up. The president is not exactly the most powerful politician in our system, but it's good prestige and if your government is already struggling, he can fuck you up for good with constant vetoes. So the government really wants a quick election because their guy is well liked and most likely to win. Most opposition parties really don't want the election because they will get their asses handed to them. Regardless of intentions, having people crowded around ballot boxes is suboptimal in these conditions, so the current idea is to have a mass mail-in vote, citing Bavaria as a recent example. This promises to be a guaranteed failure; the national post office can't handle the task and many people will refuse to participate because they think holding this election is a threat to democracy. Alternatives being floated so far include proclaiming a state of natural disaster which would postpone any elections potentially indefinitely, or amending the constitution to extend the presidential term. Go figure.

Shame about BoJo, I hope he can recover but I hear prognosis is poor once you're on intensive care.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

Alright since I've had the pleasure of working in the ED again (yay)

First you have people whose cc is atypical of uris, which is why I think so many front-line workers are getting infected. Syncope head lac, tingling in extremities, fatigue, all symptoms of hypoxia w/o SOB or other s/s of uris. So no cough or runny nose or anything that might scream droplet precautions.

There was one paper I read where SARS-CoV-2 could potentially knock out heme from erythrocytes, which might be the underlying cause of hypoxic symptoms w/o SOB.

Second these patients decompensate quick as fuck and need flO2 to eventual vent. I've seen this rarely with viral pneumonia rt influenza but it's actually pretty fucking common with COVID-19 pts. It's honestly pretty fucking scary.

 

[XYZpdq]

¡Toma eso, coronavirus! El Hijo del Soberano le hace frente al Covid-19 con cubrebocas de luchadores

El luchador lagunero, 'El Hijo del Soberano', fabrica cubrebocas con la identidad de máscaras de lucha libre para hacerle frente al coronavirus

www.sopitas.com

'Hijo del Soberano' ataca al coronavirus con cubrebocas de luchadores

archived 6 Apr 2020 19:43:54 UTC

archive.vn

yo, perro, I heard you like masks so I put masks on your masks

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

I agree with you 100%. All of these idiot pundits who are like “Older people, go out and save the economy because that’s more important than your life” can get bent.

Of fucking course the economy is important. But the economy can and will take hits and come back strong. Lives that are lost will never come back. Life is infinitely more valuable and irreplaceable than money or stocks ever can be.

My dad is 60 and has underlying health problems, but fortunately he’s able to work from home. But if he did take that stupid advice and try to go out and work “for the economy,” I would tell him to sit his dumb ass down and stay inside. My dad’s life is infinitely more valuable and precious to me than money could ever hope to be; I love him and my mom more than anything and I would do anything to protect them. I‘m sure most people would put their loved ones above money and the economy, too.

I also think it’s funny that the pundits going “muh economy, think of the children” are also usually the same people who argue against student debt relief and measures to protect the environment for future generations. Think of the next generation as long as it doesn’t impact the bottom line, I guess.

Wtf is this overtly emotional tripe? While yes, money and stocks are part of the economy, so are other things. Jobs, material, production, supply. That's what most people are worried about when they say 'economy'.

The economy is tied to all aspects of life in the US. If it collapsed, we collapse. Then people die. Many more than if a virus runs its course.

Sometimes economy and life go hand in hand. Some people have to still go out and maintain it for everyone.

 

[Stasi]

Fucking BoJo is in intensive care! this is not a drill!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52192604

http://archive.li/suJ9M

Edit: late and gay

 

[DidYouJustSayThat]

ventilate the fucking tiger, it’s an endangered species unlike New Yorkers

VENTILATE. THE. DAMN. TIGER. Also DO NOT FORGET TO LIVESTREAM THIS OPERATION!

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I reject your reality and choose to continue to live in my own, where these Indian chanters were carrying toilet plungers, filled with burning poo.

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Stfu losers.

The final solution to this re.tarded gay ass disease is literally taking a paid vacation at home with your family and getting piss drunk and doing a shit ton of drugs and watching Netflix and shitposting memes online.

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I approve of this post, but only because it aligns with my own Chaotic Evil alignment.

New normal. You may now kiss the bride. Do not remove your respirator.

 

[Army Burger]

Shame about BoJo, I hope he can recover but I hear prognosis is poor once you're on intensive care.

Doesn't sound like he's been intubated yet, so it's not quite worst case scenario yet, although it's definitely concerning.

 

[Non-Expert!]

You know who I like?

White people.

Spend some time around MY family. Your opinion will probably change.

Do we actually have to like anybody?

 

[No_one]

Polish numbers: 311 new cases, a mere 7,6% growth, but also a huge drop in daily tests. Whatever, it's still just hiccups after that change in daily reporting. I'm guessing between 350-400 confirmed cases and 6000-7000 tests for tomorrow. But that's not the main point of interest. Everyone was talking about May today.

You see, there's a presidential election coming up. The president is not exactly the most powerful politician in our system, but it's good prestige and if your government is already struggling, he can fuck you up for good with constant vetoes. So the government really wants a quick election because their guy is well liked and most likely to win. Most opposition parties really don't want the election because they will get their asses handed to them. Regardless of intentions, having people crowded around ballot boxes is suboptimal in these conditions, so the current idea is to have a mass mail-in vote, citing Bavaria as a recent example. This promises to be a guaranteed failure; the national post office can't handle the task and many people will refuse to participate because they think holding this election is a threat to democracy. Alternatives being floated so far include proclaiming a state of natural disaster which would postpone any elections potentially indefinitely, or amending the constitution to extend the presidential term. Go figure.

Shame about BoJo, I hope he can recover but I hear prognosis is poor once you're on intensive care.

Add to that our PM's opinion from today that we'll hit the peak of epidemics in May or possibly June. I wish they just followed Orban's example to cut the chaos, especially since our ruling party loves to cite Hungary as a role model.

 

[CeleryStalks]

Michigan, USA

Tomorrow our state legislators go into session to decide how much longer our state of emergency will last. Various precautions will be taken to prevent the spread of coronavirus among them.

One of our state legislators, Karen Whitsett, (D-Detroit) has been confirmed positive, and has been self-isolating for some time now. She is recovering, and credits Trump and hydroxychloroquine for her recovery
[Edit to clarify: She's a state representative, not a federal one.]

Detroit rep says hydroxychloroquine, Trump helped save her life amid COVID-19 fight

Rep. Karen Whitsett, D-Detroit, said she does not believe she would have been given the drug if President Trump had not touted it.

www.freep.com

(archive)

Article on hospitals' difficulties keeping track of everything and coordinating their activities.

Beaumont CEO blasts state for lack of hospital data during coronavirus

John Fox, CEO of the state’s largest hospital system, lashed out about a lack of communication as metro Detroit struggles with a surge of patients.

www.freep.com

(archive)

Spoiler: Michigan Recap

SHUTDOWNS
Shelter-in-place order and shutdown of everything non-essential (groceries, gas stations, pharmacies, the usual) from Tuesday March 24 to Monday April 13. (archive) (executive order saved on KF). Marijuana shops are open. Tobacco shops are closed (archive). K-12 schools suspended for remainder of year, but alternate learning plans will be implemented (archive) (archive). The police cannot, at present, pull drivers over simply for being out during the shutdown (archive).
The Big Three Auto manufacturers (Ford, GM, Chrysler) are closing all factories in the USA, putting well over 150,000 workers out of work. This figure does not include workers at supplier factories, which will also be obliged to close. (archive) (archive) (archive). They will be making a small number of parts for emergency vehicles, and GM will be helping Ventec, a company that makes ventilators (archive - ventilators). Ford will be helping 3M and GE Healthcare to make respirators and ventilators (archive).

ECONOMY AND MISCELLANY
Unemployment so high that claims must be made on certain days, based on claimant's last name. (archive)
The Great Lakes are at record or near-record highs, flooding our beaches and harming our chances of tourists saving our economy this summer (archive, archive)
Big Brother is watching, and he approves. Massive phone-tracking project reveals Michigan travel down by 45%, compared to 40% nation-wide (website) (news article archive).

FREE STUFF!
Free bus rides in Detroit after drivers' strike (archive- strike) (archive - free fares)
Free access to state parks (archive)
Evictions suspended while the state of emergency lasts (archive)
Water will be turned back on for all households while the crisis lasts (archive)
State prisoners are being provided two free phone calls and two free emails a week, by the 3rd party vendors thereof (archive)

FREEDOM!
Semi-trucks carrying essential supplies can ignore seasonal road weight limits (archive)
Distilleries can make hand sanitizer without a permit (archive)
Pharmacists may prescribe 60 days of emergency medication and may substitute drugs without physicians approval in event of shortages (archive). Various other medical restrictions loosened (archive).
Driver's Ed (the classroom portion) is now available online. (archive)
All localities given more discretion to release prisoners early (archive)
Restaurants can sell food like grocery stores (archive)

HEALTH CARE
Detroit hospitals are at or near capacity and have reached the point of moving patients out to other hospitals (archive - March 30).
Detroit hospitals prepare triage plans (archive on KF)
Detroit-area nurse makes a video (archive)
The whole night shift of one Detroit hospital was fired, because they refused to accept unsafe patient load per nurse (thread post) [EDIT: According to a local newspaper, they were not fired, just asked to leave, and they intend to report back to work Monday night.]
Hydroxychloroquine banned by governor's order (archive). Nevermind LOL! Now she's asking the federal government for it and claiming the ban was a typo in the first place. (archive). Detroit-area hospitals are beginning to test the drug's effectiveness as a preventative on first responders and health-care workers (archive).
A look at how many hospital beds, ICU beds, and ventilators Michigan has, by region (archive).

LAW AND ORDER
Lansing (the capitol) police are not physically responding to minor crimes such as larceny, property damage, and break-ins to unoccupied buildings, including garages. Other police are adopting similar policies (archive) (archive).
106 Detroit police officers and staff and 24 firefighters and staff tested positive and hundreds of others are quarantined (the Detroit Police Dept. has about 2,200 officers) (archive) (archive - April 2) Three Michigan officers and police staff dead, all in the Detroit area. (archive).
Despite this, 911 calls are down 15-20% in Detroit, and Mayor Mike Duggan (D) estimates actual crime has dropped even more (archive).
Police in Muskegon report increase in vehicle break-ins, domestic break-ins and burglaries, business break-ins, and domestic violence; decrease in traffic stops (archive).
Police starting to test positive everywhere (archive - Kalamazoo). (archive - Saginaw).
Breaking the lockdown is a misdemeanor, punishable by $500 $1500 fines and 90 days jail time. Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D) has stated there will not be a "ramp up" of police enforcement (archive). The attorney general has left it to local law enforcement to close businesses, as her hands are full with price-gougers and con artists (archive). Local law enforcement is floundering and we are essentially working on an honor system (archive - Kalamazoo) (archive - Ann Arbor).

DEATH TOLL
Detroit Metro (pop. 3,860,000):*

13,809 confirmed / 631 dead
12,019 confirmed / 539 dead yesterday
(i.e. 92 new deaths, up 25 from previous day)
Normal Detroit Metro Death Rate: 104 per day.**

Other Michigan (6,120,000):

3,412 confirmed / 96 dead
3,699 confirmed / 78 dead yesterday
(i.e. 18 new deaths, up 8 from previous day)
Normal not-Detroit Death Rate: 167 per day**

All Michigan (9,990,000):

17,221 confirmed / 727 dead
15,718 confirmed / 617 dead yesterday
(i.e. 110 new deaths, up 33 from previous day)
Normal Michigan Death Rate: 271 per day.**

State Legislature (148):***

3 probable cases / 1 dead

Death toll doubled since: April 1.
We have been locked down since: March 24.

State Government site, daily - today's archive;
State Gov site, total, includes breakdowns by sex, age, race and ethnicity - today's archive.
*Here defined as the City of Detroit, and Macomb, Oakland, and Wayne Counties, minus state prisoners, who are not counted towards any county's cases, but are kept in a category of their own.
** As of 2018.
*** Including Rep. Isaac Robinson (D-Detroit) who is strongly suspected, though not confirmed as yet, to have died of the Wuflu.
Also one Ann Arbor man allegedly killed by his roommate in a Corona-related dispute (archive). The suspect has been released from custody while the investigation continues (archive).
[2nd edit; forgot the archive links]

 

[Otterly]

There was one paper I read where SARS-CoV-2 could potentially knock out heme from erythrocytes, which might be the underlying cause of hypoxic symptoms w/o SOB

Ever seen anyone with really, really bad favism? It’s rare in the states maybe? (If I’m being paranoid and raving in front of my trello board, there’s your italian connection...)
If they’re having the combination of an acute haemolytic crisis plus pneumonia, That’s a double whammy. Haemolytic crisis with less lung damage= the ones with normal lung sounds and low spO2. Both together are the ones in deep trouble.

Have you tried just shoving a few units into any of them, and following up with iron and folic acid? - could be justified if RBCs are really low.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Michigan, USA

Tomorrow our legislators go into session to decide how much longer our state of emergency will last. Various precautions will be taken to prevent the spread of coronavirus among them.

One of our legislators, Karen Whitsett, (D-Detroit) has been confirmed positive, and has been self-isolating for some time now. She is recovering, and credits Trump and hydroxychloroquine for her recovery

Detroit rep says hydroxychloroquine, Trump helped save her life amid COVID-19 fight

Rep. Karen Whitsett, D-Detroit, said she does not believe she would have been given the drug if President Trump had not touted it.

www.freep.com

(archive)

Article on hospitals' difficulties keeping track of everything and coordinating their activities.

Beaumont CEO blasts state for lack of hospital data during coronavirus

John Fox, CEO of the state’s largest hospital system, lashed out about a lack of communication as metro Detroit struggles with a surge of patients.

www.freep.com

(archive)

Spoiler: Michigan Recap

SHUTDOWNS
Shelter-in-place order and shutdown of everything non-essential (groceries, gas stations, pharmacies, the usual) from Tuesday March 24 to Monday April 13. (archive) (executive order saved on KF). Marijuana shops are open. Tobacco shops are closed (archive). K-12 schools suspended for remainder of year, but alternate learning plans will be implemented (archive) (archive). The police cannot, at present, pull drivers over simply for being out during the shutdown (archive).
The Big Three Auto manufacturers (Ford, GM, Chrysler) are closing all factories in the USA, putting well over 150,000 workers out of work. This figure does not include workers at supplier factories, which will also be obliged to close. (archive) (archive) (archive). They will be making a small number of parts for emergency vehicles, and GM will be helping Ventec, a company that makes ventilators (archive - ventilators). Ford will be helping 3M and GE Healthcare to make respirators and ventilators (archive).

ECONOMY AND MISCELLANY
Unemployment so high that claims must be made on certain days, based on claimant's last name. (archive)
The Great Lakes are at record or near-record highs, flooding our beaches and harming our chances of tourists saving our economy this summer (archive, archive)
Big Brother is watching, and he approves. Massive phone-tracking project reveals Michigan travel down by 45%, compared to 40% nation-wide (website) (news article archive).

FREE STUFF!
Free bus rides in Detroit after drivers' strike (archive- strike) (archive - free fares)
Free access to state parks (archive)
Evictions suspended while the state of emergency lasts (archive)
Water will be turned back on for all households while the crisis lasts (archive)
State prisoners are being provided two free phone calls and two free emails a week, by the 3rd party vendors thereof (archive)

FREEDOM!
Semi-trucks carrying essential supplies can ignore seasonal road weight limits (archive)
Distilleries can make hand sanitizer without a permit (archive)
Pharmacists may prescribe 60 days of emergency medication and may substitute drugs without physicians approval in event of shortages (archive). Various other medical restrictions loosened (archive).
Driver's Ed (the classroom portion) is now available online. (archive)
All localities given more discretion to release prisoners early (archive)
Restaurants can sell food like grocery stores (archive)

HEALTH CARE
Detroit hospitals are at or near capacity and have reached the point of moving patients out to other hospitals (archive - March 30).
Detroit hospitals prepare triage plans (archive on KF)
Detroit-area nurse makes a video (archive)
The whole night shift of one Detroit hospital was fired, because they refused to accept unsafe patient load per nurse (thread post)
Hydroxychloroquine banned by governor's order (archive). Nevermind LOL! Now she's asking the federal government for it and claiming the ban was a typo in the first place. (archive). Detroit-area hospitals are beginning to test the drug's effectiveness as a preventative on first responders and health-care workers (archive).
A look at how many hospital beds, ICU beds, and ventilators Michigan has, by region (archive).

LAW AND ORDER
Lansing (the capitol) police are not physically responding to minor crimes such as larceny, property damage, and break-ins to unoccupied buildings, including garages. Other police are adopting similar policies (archive) (archive).
106 Detroit police officers and staff and 24 firefighters and staff tested positive and hundreds of others are quarantined (the Detroit Police Dept. has about 2,200 officers) (archive) (archive - April 2) Three Michigan officers and police staff dead, all in the Detroit area. (archive).
Despite this, 911 calls are down 15-20% in Detroit, and Mayor Mike Duggan (D) estimates actual crime has dropped even more (archive).
Police in Muskegon report increase in vehicle break-ins, domestic break-ins and burglaries, business break-ins, and domestic violence; decrease in traffic stops (archive).
Police starting to test positive everywhere (archive - Kalamazoo). (archive - Saginaw).
Breaking the lockdown is a misdemeanor, punishable by $500 $1500 fines and 90 days jail time. Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D) has stated there will not be a "ramp up" of police enforcement (archive). The attorney general has left it to local law enforcement to close businesses, as her hands are full with price-gougers and con artists (archive). Local law enforcement is floundering and we are essentially working on an honor system (archive - Kalamazoo) (archive - Ann Arbor).

DEATH TOLL
Detroit Metro (pop. 3,860,000):*

13,809 confirmed / 631 dead
12,019 confirmed / 539 dead yesterday
(i.e. 92 new deaths, up 25 from previous day)
Normal Detroit Metro Death Rate: 104 per day.**

Other Michigan (6,120,000):

3,412 confirmed / 96 dead
3,699 confirmed / 78 dead yesterday
(i.e. 18 new deaths, up 8 from previous day)
Normal not-Detroit Death Rate: 167 per day**

All Michigan (9,990,000):

17,221 confirmed / 727 dead
15,718 confirmed / 617 dead yesterday
(i.e. 110 new deaths, up 33 from previous day)
Normal Michigan Death Rate: 271 per day.**

State Legislature (148):***

3 probable cases / 1 dead

Death toll doubled since: April 1.
We have been locked down since: March 24.

State Government site, daily - today's archive;
State Gov site, total, includes breakdowns by sex, age, race and ethnicity - today's archive.
*Here defined as the City of Detroit, and Macomb, Oakland, and Wayne Counties, minus state prisoners, who are not counted towards any county's cases, but are kept in a category of their own.
** As of 2018.
*** Including Rep. Isaac Robinson (D-Detroit) who is strongly suspected, though not confirmed as yet, to have died of the Wuflu.
Also one Ann Arbor man allegedly killed by his roommate in a Corona-related dispute (archive). The suspect has been released from custody while the investigation continues (archive).

Detroit rep not inflicted with TDS? Well I'll be damned...

 

[Extremist Frank]

Photo leaked by a matron nurse of Boris Johnson in the ICU

He's apparently having a great time

 

[Ellesse_warrior]

Video Archives April '5

In an earlier post, I mentionned how long before someone said Corona-chan is racist? Well, it's happened from a post I read on this forum.

Btw, that guy nicknamed Black Hammer, I wonder how he'll react if karma bites him back just like it did to XXXTentacion?

Spoiler: VIDEO ARCHIVE

Based and Amishpilled.

He be feeling pretty silly right now with all the praise for China in that manifesto.

For the same reason the media were going on about test kits about a week ago - it's a single factor they can latch on to. And like repeating predictions from models they don't understand, it's easy to package as "news"

Spoiler: VIDEO ARCHIVE

I haven't been here for 2 weeks and most of what I can see is doomposting.
The normie class are getting desperate. All according to plan. Soon, they'll beg us to save them.

Spoiler: VIDEO ARCHIVE

The medias begin to call a spoon a spoon and they call the Wuhan biolab, the possible origin of Corona-chan. If the MSM try to save their faces, it's a bit too little too late.

Spoiler: VIDEO ARCHIVE

and remember