Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata

I only have a passing knowledge of art, but is some of the stuff she tried to pass off her own just over-painting at best or a straight-up filter slapped over a photo at worst.

That detail
Such photo-realism!
Some decent lineart... kinda fucking it up with the colors, but still pretty good, except...

...She forgot how to draw anatomy or perspective a few months later. That's sad.

Nice finds! The discrepancy between the last two pieces (one of which is a poster, while the other requires construction) suggests that it's probably the former though you can get pretty close to tracing by copying carefully.

I don't know a great deal about digital art but I'm glad someone came and said this. It really did look like she'd discovered it by mistake and we were just watching her experiment with it because it looked cool and rEpReSeNtS HiS ShAtTeReD SoUl or something.

Cheers. And you're dead on. She was scribbling over another disappointing drawing with one of the new brushes and had - as Dark's mentor Bob Ross would say - "a happy accident."

Anyway, over-hyping one's art skills and lying on a sketch vid aren't really a big deal compared to all the other shenanigans going on here. Still delightful to watch someone who low-key thinks they're amazing get a reality check on camera.
 
The 'Tatiana' channel has gone on a streak of posting response videos to Chloe's fanbase bullying and verbally abusing her in the comments. She's deteriorated to the point of sobbing hysterically on camera and possibly hurting herself.

(The comment she has in the overlay of her final video reveals one of Chloe's fans doxing her)
 
Ok so I contemplated it for a bit and I think I've found a way to articulate what bothers me about the interactions between Chloe and her fans and when it comes to advocation of mental health. So I'm sitting here reading the Julie Terryberry thread, and I've seen the Terry Davis/TempleOS Down the Rabbit Hole, and you've got these people who despite their lulzy moments were struggling to just function.

Then you have Chloe come along and not only support some bizarrely misinterpreted Tumblr version of a maybe real issue of Dissociative Identity Disorder but try and put it on this pedestal of some sort of persecution complex that this needs to be legitimized and destigmatized. She wants to essentially put her life experiences on the same platform level as Julie and Terry and demand respect when all she shows is her looking slightly sad in the camera occasionally when she wants to show off her bad days and spends the majority of her videos showing this cutesy fun creative world she's made of her supposed illness.

She doesn't want her followers to tone down the rhetoric, she enjoys the power of having a community that will lash out at the likes of Tatianna and Trisha who would dare poke at her credibility as an advocate. She actually has the audacity to make it seem tragic that her "alters" would integrate even though that is the goal of therapy. She's doing a disservice to the likes of Terry and Julie by glamorizing mental illness even going so far as to nonchalantly reference her suicide attempts as when she got more cool headmates.

Sorry for the rant.
 

Man, she's really lost some of her dramatic switch acting, hasn't she?

She actually has the audacity to make it seem tragic that her "alters" would integrate even though that is the goal of therapy. She's doing a disservice to the likes of Terry and Julie by glamorizing mental illness even going so far as to nonchalantly reference her suicide attempts as when she got more cool headmates.

It's also dangerous, if you really think about it. It's akin to someone who is pretending to have bipolar disorder reveling in fake mania saying life is so much better without their mood stabilizers so they can experience the natural high.
 
It's also dangerous, if you really think about it. It's akin to someone who is pretending to have bipolar disorder reveling in fake mania saying life is so much better without their mood stabilizers so they can experience the natural high.

Oh big time, especially her droning about self diagnosis being viable. If you come at your therapist/psychologist with a ready made diagnosis from the internet they have to restrain themselves from slapping the bitch out of your mouth. Not even to mention that you can get misdiagnosed and not get the proper treatment if you decide to fabricate a diagnosis for yourself. The supposedly informative parts of her channel are almost like the woke points version of pill seeking behavior, telling people exactly what to do and say when they meet with their professional to get their desired end result.
 
Oh big time, especially her droning about self diagnosis being viable. If you come at your therapist/psychologist with a ready made diagnosis from the internet they have to restrain themselves from slapping the bitch out of your mouth. Not even to mention that you can get misdiagnosed and not get the proper treatment if you decide to fabricate a diagnosis for yourself. The supposedly informative parts of her channel are almost like the woke points version of pill seeking behavior, telling people exactly what to do and say when they meet with their professional to get their desired end result.
It is absolutely the same as pill seeking. It seems this a trend among the younger generation that might not understand the actuality of what they’re advising people to do. I’ve seen the same with the transtrenders, they post how to guides online to obtain whatever diagnosis/treatment they desire without experiencing any legitimate symptoms.
It’s all very dangerous.
 
Where was this forced binge eating taking place? Who had access to her for an extended period? What would be their motivation for that? If her parents weren't behind it, why didn't they notice she was sick from overeating or gaining rapid weight? She might well be threading half truths through her lies but they fall apart quite easily.
Was she dating a feeder? Does Null have something he's not telling us?
 
The 'Tatiana' channel has gone on a streak of posting response videos to Chloe's fanbase bullying and verbally abusing her in the comments. She's deteriorated to the point of sobbing hysterically on camera and possibly hurting herself.

(The comment she has in the overlay of her final video reveals one of Chloe's fans doxing her)
Not gonna lie, this woman is pretty great. She exposed the hypocrisy of the DID community and the "DissociaDID cult", and she's right when she says they're hypocrites when they call themselves "mental health advocates". This woman has been professionally diagnosed and everyone tells her she's lying and making everything up, but when Chloe gets a bribed sketchy diagnosis from 90%-dx-rate-clinic it's all cool and real?
I think it's pretty great she shows herself this riled up because she has every right to be. They call themselves mental health advocates, and then they go on to doxx, harass, and threaten this girl with mental health issues and actual trauma. Absolutely ridiculous. Even more ludicrous is that Chloe didn't even make a tweet saying "Hey maybe don't literally harass people", she just responds to criticism of herself saying "oh but I never told anyone to do that".
Sadistic and vindictive.
Maybe Chloe should once again make a video as scary alter Jade with Teen Titans Go villain make-up to tell her toxic fans to stop doxxing and harassing everyone who has the slightest criticism of her.
 
Ok so I contemplated it for a bit and I think I've found a way to articulate what bothers me about the interactions between Chloe and her fans and when it comes to advocation of mental health. So I'm sitting here reading the Julie Terryberry thread, and I've seen the Terry Davis/TempleOS Down the Rabbit Hole, and you've got these people who despite their lulzy moments were struggling to just function.

Then you have Chloe come along and not only support some bizarrely misinterpreted Tumblr version of a maybe real issue of Dissociative Identity Disorder but try and put it on this pedestal of some sort of persecution complex that this needs to be legitimized and destigmatized. She wants to essentially put her life experiences on the same platform level as Julie and Terry and demand respect when all she shows is her looking slightly sad in the camera occasionally when she wants to show off her bad days and spends the majority of her videos showing this cutesy fun creative world she's made of her supposed illness.

She doesn't want her followers to tone down the rhetoric, she enjoys the power of having a community that will lash out at the likes of Tatianna and Trisha who would dare poke at her credibility as an advocate. She actually has the audacity to make it seem tragic that her "alters" would integrate even though that is the goal of therapy. She's doing a disservice to the likes of Terry and Julie by glamorizing mental illness even going so far as to nonchalantly reference her suicide attempts as when she got more cool headmates.

Sorry for the rant.

I'd agree with all of this. What also bothers me is that she uses splitting as a punishment as well as a way to entertain her fans. If someone questions her too closely or lashes out online then she'll split and make it such a tragic event. To her fans it is essentially a character death. Her fans will celebrate the new alter and welcome them with excitement but they will also round on the person who 'caused' her split and berate them relentlessly for causing her so much pain one of her imaginary friends would actually die.
Trisha? An obvious troll, though I do believe she has a personality disorder of some description. The girl behind Tatiana? Clearly someone with severe mental illness, in an actively abusive relationship. She also presents as someone with learning difficulties and a very low IQ to me.
But Chloe is arguably attractive and cosplays as cool quirky shadow men and should never be questioned as she's been through so much unspecified trauma. Double standards and such.

Not gonna lie, this woman is pretty great. She exposed the hypocrisy of the DID community and the "DissociaDID cult", and she's right when she says they're hypocrites when they call themselves "mental health advocates". This woman has been professionally diagnosed and everyone tells her she's lying and making everything up, but when Chloe gets a bribed sketchy diagnosis from 90%-dx-rate-clinic it's all cool and real?
I think it's pretty great she shows herself this riled up because she has every right to be. They call themselves mental health advocates, and then they go on to doxx, harass, and threaten this girl with mental health issues and actual trauma. Absolutely ridiculous. Even more ludicrous is that Chloe didn't even make a tweet saying "Hey maybe don't literally harass people", she just responds to criticism of herself saying "oh but I never told anyone to do that".
Sadistic and vindictive.
Maybe Chloe should once again make a video as scary alter Jade with Teen Titans Go villain make-up to tell her toxic fans to stop doxxing and harassing everyone who has the slightest criticism of her.

I agree with what this woman is saying but she's so clearly unwell that she really shouldn't be on the internet at this point.

In other news, Nan's WuFlu is developing and it was so 'not cool' that her concerned apartment manager called the emergency services, because doesn't her apartment manager know that Jeremy has medical trauma?!?!?one?!
Also what the fuck is up with that facial expression? Is that supposed to be sexy, sick, or both? On the topic, how has Nan resisted the urge to furiously masturbate 24/7 now her sickness fetish is being pandered to?
 
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In other news, Nan's WuFlu is developing and it was so 'not cool' that her concerned apartment manager called the emergency services, because doesn't her apartment manager know that Jeremy has medical trauma?!‽?one?!
Also what the fuck is up with that facial expression? Is that supposed to be sexy, sick, or both? On the topic, how has Nan resisted the urge to furiously masturbate 24/7 now her sickness fetish is being pandered to?

i find it really hard to believe that a doctor told her over the phone that she "probably had it" without referring her to a testing clinic.
 
Trisha? An obvious troll, though I do believe she has a personality disorder of some description. The girl behind Tatiana? Clearly someone with severe mental illness, in an actively abusive relationship. She also presents as someone with learning difficulties and a very low IQ to me.
But Chloe is arguably attractive and cosplays as cool quirky shadow men and should never be questioned as she's been through so much unspecified trauma. Double standards and such.
That's the thing: they're only mental health advocates when it comes to "cool" "quirky" mental illnesses. They're the same people who pretend to be bipolar or have anxiety for quirky internet points. Personality Disorders aren't cute mental illnesses, so anyone with them who actively shows symptoms is to be shunned. Especially when disrespecting The Queen Chloe.
 
Was it some type of Jamaican accent? She tried one of those once if I remember correctly and it sounded awful.
I think the reason "Amira" never really "fronts" anymore is because Chloe realized that she couldn't fake that accent well enough! The only accent with a distinguishable difference is Kyle. He had an Essex accent, go figure she has lived in Essex in the past (not sure where now). Every other alter just speaks in a different tone, like quite, soft, aggressive, spunky, childlike or most disturbing of all cringeworthy seductive. We don't have to worry about that one anymore cuz she's"integrated".
 
The 'Tatiana' channel has gone on a streak of posting response videos to Chloe's fanbase bullying and verbally abusing her in the comments. She's deteriorated to the point of sobbing hysterically on camera and possibly hurting herself.

(The comment she has in the overlay of her final video reveals one of Chloe's fans doxing her)

I just want to point out some irony here. Tatiana/Jesseekah legitimately seems to be suffering from a mental breakdown ON CAMERA. She's giving these DID fans the fodder they seek from DissociaDID's channels. An episode. And yet they are prodding, bullying and attacking her. I genuinely hope she isn't pushed over the edge by this whole thing. She seems to be manic.

And the truth is that mental illness isn't pretty, posh and perfect the way DissociaDID portrays it. It causes people to be abusive, criminal and even murderous. Tatiana's spiral here is so raw and authentic. Where is her support from this HUGE mental health community? She clearly needs it?
 
I just want to point out some irony here. Tatiana/Jesseekah legitimately seems to be suffering from a mental breakdown ON CAMERA. She's giving these DID fans the fodder they seek from DissociaDID's channels. An episode. And yet they are prodding, bullying and attacking her. I genuinely hope she isn't pushed over the edge by this whole thing. She seems to be manic.

And the truth is that mental illness isn't pretty, posh and perfect the way DissociaDID portrays it. It causes people to be abusive, criminal and even murderous. Tatiana's spiral here is so raw and authentic. Where is her support from this HUGE mental health community? She clearly needs it?

Unfortunately I don't have it archived, so you'll have to take my word for it, but she was burning her hand with a lit match in the last video whilst crying hysterically about both Chloe's fanbase and her ex, which she subsequently deleted.

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As others have said, this is another emphatic example of the ironic so-called 'mental health advocacy' going on here.

More irony is that Chloe's sheep like to throw around (much like Susan & Corey Schofield-Cabana) the 'you're not a doctor' put-down for any kind of criticism she might have for Chloe. Despite the fact that Chloe has less than even a third of an undergraduate degree in psychology. Note that the preliminary exam (first year) of all British psychology degrees is just statistics and the history of a few subfields, not including clinical psychology at all. Chloe hasn't even got that under her belt, yet they treat her words like gospel. She's the qualified spokesperson for all mental health related matters.
Also eerie is how many of the other "systems" (lol) in the comments tell her she will be attacked and ostricized from "the community". It is absolutely mob mentality and group think. For people pretending to have a disease which involves independently thinking identities, they all seem to have quite the collective hivemind.

Jesseekah/Tatiana is clearly unwell and needs support, and real advocacy - unlike Chloe, she is showing very real signs of distress. Jess explained in a few of her videos that she related to Trisha Paytas' video about alters because, like Paytas, she considers herself to have 'alter-egos' (including the titular 'Tatiana') so that she can adopt a personality (consciously) and pretend she's someone other than herself. She never claimed to have DID, what much of Chloe's fans are harassing her about ("You're not diagnosed, 'Nin' is!").
 
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Wow what a great person and advocate sends their community to attack someone who is legitimately having a mental breakdown?

Fuck you Chloe, Nin, whatever fucking character you are larping as today. So fucking gross and fake - and I know it's fake because you wouldn't do it if you were secure in your "diagnosis".

Edit: for real this is the fucking grossest shit
 
Chloe's going on an answer-spree on Twitter at the moment focusing only on supportive messages that paint her as a martyr whilst namedropping bigger YouTubers in the hopes of getting another interaction as with Anthony whilst the girl she sent her fans to 'report' is burning herself with matches. Advocacy.
 
Apologies for any missteps in general social norms of the site, aside from the Jani Schofield-Cabana case this is really one of my first times using KiwiFarms. But this thread is just too up my own ass alley for me to not keep my grubby hands out. I literally specialize in dissociative disorders and want to get a doctorate in this shit.

I know y’all don’t like long shpeels and stuff, and to be frank neither do I, so I’ll condense what I can. I’m going to assume that at this point you guys know the basics of DID so I’ll gloss over that. My point of this post is linking the behaviors of Nan and Chloe/Nin to what I actually think is going on: narcissism. Please note that this is not diagnosing either of these fakers with a disorder, just my thoughts and theories on this whole thing.

The general belief is that narcissists have developed an overly inflated sense of importance to cover up for their inner inadequacies. Essentially, these behaviors stem from wanting more power or feeling powerless. You can easily see how this reflects in these presentations of DID, especially in how they seem to represent who they want to be. I don’t like Frued, he was a pervert, but his ideas surrounding the subconscious have something to them.

Alters often have powerful inner world forms. Demons, angels, warriors, fairies… I’ve even met a prophet who gave the system these visions from above. They have important roles and duties. This allows the narc to fulfill that need to be powerful. I find protectors especially to be an interesting part. I firmly believe protectors are meant to be the projection of their own defensive nature over their fragile ego. They also serve as a scapegoat for narcissistic rage. Convenient.

Many of you have pointed out their scenarios of being kidnapped and splitting and going dormant and whatnot. Obviously attempts to feel more important and powerful by garnering concern and fear for the ‘lives’ of their alters. They don’t feel their own lives are interesting enough to be watched so they come up with this all. It’s really sad. I knew a system that had battles in their heads with their partners. Like, literal battles against good and bad alters. If one had to go, everything in their heads would freeze, and yes, they fucking battled eachother. They did it using ‘self hypnosis’ so they could have the imagery. It was just as cringy and shameful as it sounds

Oftentimes, these alters also have backstories that basically are tailor made to get what they want. That one system I dated had an angel who had to filter the sludge (bad thoughts) in the basement. Whenever he got poisoned by it, his wings would turn black. The only way to get him out of his self deprecating, suicidal state, was to have sex. This is a great example of how narcissists will manipulate a way to secure access to what they want. We haven’t really seen much, but the whole tickling kink has me wondering what else Nan has in there. I feel sorry for Chloe. The sexual narcissism in these fakers is very blatant.

Inner worlds are another place for this to pop up. Both Nan and Chloe have mansions. Funnily enough, so do many systems I know. They have grand sprawling worlds that imitate a perfect, luxurious world they wish they had. Foreboding forests, mazes, castles, etc. This is why I am extremely suspicious of systems with these elaborate worlds. One of the few people who I believe actually has DID told me his inner world was nothing but miles and miles of empty road. A sense of misdirection as opposed to grandeur and fantasy.

Essentially, DID is the perfect way for a narcissist to weasel to get their need for attention filled. They can just blame any bad behavior on another alter. They can’t be expected to be held to the same standard as others because of all their hardships. They can make up fantasy stories any time. They can create a new persona to ensnare whoever they want. Best of all (for them), because they are uwu traumatized, they can’t be questioned or blamed for their behavior.

It’s also important to note that narcissists love to cling to their own inherent specialness. Maybe they’re psychic or have past lives or DID. They’ll snatch their victims by trying to convince them that they too are special and should seek council and company with them. Creates a sense of isolation and dependent delusion.

My opinion is that Nan and Chloe have a codependent relationship that is essentially them feeding each other validation and playing into their fantasy. I don’t think this is a folie à deux because in my opinion Nan is 100% consciously faking this disorder. Chloe could be a victim of delusion, but I think deep down she knows it’s not real. That may be why she is a little more lowkey than Nan. Chloe shows traits of BPD and vulnerable/covert narcissism and Nan is significantly more grandiose/histrionic. Both have formed cults of the impressionable and fellow fakers around them. It’s going to be a shitshow when people start realizing the truth.

Anyways, no idea how this post will blow over or if anyone cares, but I’ll probably watch this thread and comment more as this unfolds.

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I just want to point out some irony here. Tatiana/Jesseekah legitimately seems to be suffering from a mental breakdown ON CAMERA. She's giving these DID fans the fodder they seek from DissociaDID's channels. An episode. And yet they are prodding, bullying and attacking her. I genuinely hope she isn't pushed over the edge by this whole thing. She seems to be manic.

And the truth is that mental illness isn't pretty, posh and perfect the way DissociaDID portrays it. It causes people to be abusive, criminal and even murderous. Tatiana's spiral here is so raw and authentic. Where is her support from this HUGE mental health community? She clearly needs it?

Her uploads and the subsequent hate in the comment section is absolutely heartbreaking. This is mental illness "CAUGHT ON CAMERA!!" Meanwhile, Chloe is getting "triggered" a couple times a video, "dissociating" every few minutes. It's all very subdued and aesthetically pleasing in the way mental illness categorically isn't. It almost seems like Chloe's fans don't realize this is what a break down looks like. They never seen an actual episode before.

And, god, her crying about how she doesn't want to take the videos down, she needs the money. That Chloe looks like she's doing fine, her career is taking off. But she doesn't want to be doing cams anymore, she wants to do something she can be proud of. I really hope she gets some help asap. (But am doubtful that she will given the look of her living situation.) The very least Chloe could do would be to implicitly tell her fans to lay off. Vague shit like the video Nan put up really doesn't cut it.
 
And the truth is that mental illness isn't pretty, posh and perfect the way DissociaDID portrays it.

Exactly. They love this reality tv version of Girl, Interrupted not actual reality, where they call people with shitty childhoods and real mental health problems trash and tweakers. They don't want to be associated with anyone with clear issues, like this Tatiana girl and Trisha Paytas (which troll or not, she clearly needs mental health treatment)

More irony is that Chloe's sheep like to throw around (much like Susan & Corey Schofield-Cabana) the 'you're not a doctor' put-down for any kind of criticism she might have for Chloe. Despite the fact that Chloe has less than even a third of an undergraduate degree in psychology.

The way they so quickly went from "Please watch Dr. Grande's video on DID" to "Dr. Grande isn't even qualified to talk about DID" when he wouldn't validate Chloe's DID is a pretty stark example of how it's a fandom, not a mental health advocacy community.
 
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