Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[EmuWarsVeteran]

@EmuWarsVeteran what do you think of this?

Spain To Roll Out Permanent Universal Basic Income ‘Soon’

Spain’s government is working on introducing a measure that will last “indefinitely,” to help those facing economic hardship because of the coronavirus crisis, Economy Minister Nadia Calvino said.

www.forbes.com

http://archive.li/xVvB8

HAH! Did they actually go ahead and propose that for real? I heard rumors but never thought they had the balls. Welp. It ain't getting past congress I can tell you that much.

Edit: article sais they didn't propose it, only told channel 6 they will. Yeah that ain't happening. Just straight up. Unless it's miniscule and includes massive cuts to pensions and unemployment to compensate the right wouldn't even consider it. And even then, I doubt it. And if the left throws pensioners under the bus I'mma laugh myself to death.

Edit 2: in case you're wondering why I'm discounting the chance of a left wing + nationalist pact. This kinda measures can only be added in another Pacto de la Moncloa, which is what they want to make, but for that they need supermajority, not just regular majority. It's not enough without the right. And they're dumb, but not THAT dumb.

 

[pwnest injun]

Ever seen anyone with really, really bad favism? It’s rare in the states maybe? (If I’m being paranoid and raving in front of my trello board, there’s your italian connection...)
If they’re having the combination of an acute haemolytic crisis plus pneumonia, That’s a double whammy. Haemolytic crisis with less lung damage= the ones with normal lung sounds and low spO2. Both together are the ones in deep trouble.

Have you tried just shoving a few units into any of them, and following up with iron and folic acid? - could be justified if RBCs are really low.

They're probably just septic. Considering late stage COVID is basically like AIDS on Chemo wrt how fucked your immune system is, I expect strep pneumo would just go hog wild in their circulatory system, eating all of their delicious blood.

Having just perused the thread where you got doxed and outed as a degenerate spastic I believe the only thing you have training in is bad Sanic fanfiction and pretending to be a black trans woman online.

Drain Todger is a paranoid weirdo. Think of him as, like, an antivirus set to the highest sensitivity settings. He's going to get a whole lot of false positives, but he's also going to flag some stuff that would otherwise go unnoticed. So, there's some utility to his malady, if you can sort through it.

 

[JosephStalin]

Switching to a credit union a decade ago was the smartest financial decision I've made in my adult life. They're not immune to bullshit (they fell right in line with all the rest of the banks & CU's when Obama's credit/debit card reforms passed in setting the highest fees allowed by the new law for overdrafts, etc., no exceptions, no waivers, ever) but they still offer a superior, less expensive (free in my case) product and faaaar better service than any for-profit bank I've ever done business with (personally or commercially). Cheaper loans, too, and they don't dick around for days deciding whether to approve or not.

Fuck the banks.


Gettin' reeeeeally tired of reminding people to archive everything.

Also, couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

Actually, I'm planning to leave a credit union. Over the years, their fees have gone up and the service down. They won't cash US Savings Bonds, but the bank down the street will, and cheerfully.

 

[Exbein]

flipland summary as of April 6 2020

 

[DNA_JACKED]

Nothing in life is 100%. What that means is sure, if you had a PAPR hood you could avoid the bat flu. Then, as you are walking out of your home in your cool anti-chink fever hood an old geezer suddenly catches a heart attack as he's driving on the street in front of your home, causing him to put all his weight on the accelerator and swerve right into your path and smash into you, your cute doom hoodie and your front door, leaving not a whole lot for the EMTs to scrape up. You avoid the bat flu but not the boomer with a bad heart.

Hysterics and panic are self-defeating because eventually every waking hour will be filled with fear. Instead of restful sleep you will have nightmares. I am beginning to think the lockdown extensions, the authoritarian decrees and restrictions of freedom of movement are worse than the virus. The same people screaming at us to stay indoors right now are the same people who berated us for not running to Chinatown to hug a chink six weeks ago. Like someone said earlier countries didn't shut down for smallpox or other contagious, deadly diseases. I'm also beginning to think Fauci is the lead doomer in all of this because this is the role of the century for him. He's also pretty cavalier about people's livelihoods disappearing and everyone's life being turned upside down. I get the WHO lulled everyone into a false sense of complacency early on but at some point an official with an understanding of pandemics and human behavior needs to devise a way to selectively quarantine the most vulnerable while allowing the immune to return to work/school. People will ignore the quarantine orders once good weather appears and NYC warms up (it already has).

You are quite optimistic in thinking an official with understanding of pandemics A) exists and B) is in a position to make these types of decisions.

I'll tell you exactly whats going to happen, the weather will continue to warm up and more people every day will break quarantine. Eventually the state governments are going to give up enforcing the rules as mass civil disobedience of the shelter orders begins. Once the infection rates in hospitals drops to normal levels they will have 0 ability to contain people and anyone that doesnt lift the restrictions by this point will be voted out in November by the pissed masses. The slow rate of NEETbux and piling bills will force more lower and middle class to return to work despite state orders, and once this happens in earnest the shopper limit at many stores is going to get ram-raided by swarms of people needing supplies. The good behavior and calm lines will grow more out of control as the weeks go by until corporate companies all decide to ditch the orders at the same time, because what is the state going to do, pull all the licenses of every multi billion business in the state at the same time?

Side note: We ( a group of non essential employees) are being told we have to come into work all week this week. Fantastic. best part, its to do something that will help 0% with the targeted problem and is almost assuredly a publicity stunt to keep morale of the public up. Waste of time if you ask me. Oh yeah, tests for Corona are still nowhere to be found and we have no idea how many people are sick statewide. Still stumbling around that field trying to hit that pinata.....

*bang head*

 

[FatalTater]

I think I have identified my least favorite type of person in the Coronapocalypse. It's the ones who virtue signal on social media about how they spotted a couple holding hands or a parent taking their child with them to the shops and were scandalized by the idiocy and nerve of some people. Then they scold their readers to obey the rules or else the quarantine will last longer!!111!!! as if the government and health officials are like an elementary school teacher waiting for the kids to be quiet before leading them down the hall to recess.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Probably holed up in a panic room and snorting hydroxychloroquine like he's Tony Montana

Never forget. He mainlines the Stem Cells of a Million Aborted Babies to maintain his immortality. That's gonna be hard for Corona-Chan to fight through.

 

[uncleShitHeel]

It is far worse than you might think for Xi. Far worse, not that I give a flying fuck for him.

Xi has put a great deal of effort into making China into a great power and future superpower. Now he knows that isn't going to happen. His glittering cities apparently have poor underground infrastructure. Can't drink the tap water. China's medical system is woefully lacking - no primary care system, so everyone runs to the hospital. Doctors who have called attention to the upcoming problem or have criticized his regime's actions re the virus have been arrested, or have just disappeared.

Xi's military has undoubtedly been affected by the ChiCom Flu. Couldn't guess the extent but bet operational and maintenance crews for all Chinese nuclear weapon delivery systems have been locked down for some time.

Xi's economy has been and is taking hits. Taking a while for production to resume. Saw something yesterday to the extent that deficiencies in certain raw material shipments from Africa are also affecting production. Xi can also see an accelerated pullout of certain foreign manufacturers from his country, meaning Chinese job losses. He can also see other countries working hard to develop additional sources for materials and goods China produces. This is on top of the ongoing housing, credit, and debt bubbles.

Speaking of debt, China holds just over one trillion dollars of US debt. Found an interesting article on this subject.

How Much Does the US Owe China?

The US owes $1.11 trillion to China, making it the largest foreign lender. It helps China's economy by keeping the yuan fixed to the dollar.

www.thebalance.com

https://archive.vn/lrGuL

If I owe you a hundred dollars, I have a problem. If I owe you a trillion dollars, you have a problem. Xi has a problem.
He may have underestimated the US economic response to the ChiCom Flu. Xi could be concerned that the printing presses will go all-out and affect the value of Chinese holdings. Or maybe we'll mint one of those trillion-dollar coins and say, "We're paying it off, dude."

This virus has and will affect, to different extents, every country in the world - economically, socially, politically, you name it. And despite Xi's and the CCP's best efforts, China can't duck their actions. They could have let other countries know sooner. They didn't. They could have kept their people from traveling abroad. They didn't. They have made a big deal about selling/supplying test kits/PPE to other countries. Much of the Chinese stuff is no good.


China is also dealing with an outbreak of avian flu, which affects poultry and egg supplies.

Bird flu spread closely linked to poultry trade, study says

The spread of bird flu types H5N1, H7N9 and H5N6 in China is closely connected to poultry trade networks rather than just wild bird migration, researchers have found.

www.scmp.com

Bird flu spread in China closely linked to poultry trade, study says …

archived 6 Apr 2020 23:02:03 UTC

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And let's not forget the ongoing outbreak of African swine flu. China STILL doesn't seem to have it under control. Pork is China's preferred meat, and the Chinese eat a lot of it. Been

Special Report: Before coronavirus, China bungled swine epidemic with secrecy

When the deadly virus was first discovered in China, authorities told the people in the know to keep quiet or else. Fearing reprisal from Beijing, local officials failed to order tests to confirm outbreaks and didn’t properly warn the public as the pathogen spread death around the country.

www.reuters.com

Special Report: Before coronavirus, China bungled swine epidemic with…

archived 6 Apr 2020 23:05:44 UTC

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Swine Fever Decimates China’s Pig Population — Leading To Doubling Of U.S. Pork Exports, One Seaport Winner

U.S. exports of pork to China have doubled this year, as President Xi Jinping tries to thread the needle between a swine flu epidemic that has decimated the nation’s pig population and a stubborn, seemingly intractable trade war.

www.forbes.com

Swine Fever Decimates China’s Pig Population — Leading To Doubling Of…

archived 6 Apr 2020 23:19:24 UTC

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And all this is on top of all the other problems - the Muslims in camps, environmental problems, demographic problems, you name it.

Face it, what China has done, intentionally or unintentionally, re this virus is no less than an act of war upon the rest of the world. Xi knows there will be retaliation of some sort, not military, but in other forms. And I would opine if Prime Minister Johnson dies of this disease, the UK will indeed be pissed. Can see them coordinating or joining the USA in certain retaliatory moves.

Xi is riding a wild tiger, and he has no idea just what will happen next. Glad I am not him.

Not that I pay much attention these days but has anyone seen the CCP top brass in the media recently? Outside the talking heads of course.

 

[Stoneheart]

Im very much in favour of Trump blocking medical exports to Canada. let the canucucks die, they are a crime against humanity anyway.

 

[derpherp2]

Nothing in life is 100%. What that means is sure, if you had a PAPR hood you could avoid the bat flu. Then, as you are walking out of your home in your cool anti-chink fever hood an old geezer suddenly catches a heart attack as he's driving on the street in front of your home, causing him to put all his weight on the accelerator and swerve right into your path and smash into you, your cute doom hoodie and your front door, leaving not a whole lot for the EMTs to scrape up. You avoid the bat flu but not the boomer with a bad heart.

Hysterics and panic are self-defeating because eventually every waking hour will be filled with fear. Instead of restful sleep you will have nightmares. I am beginning to think the lockdown extensions, the authoritarian decrees and restrictions of freedom of movement are worse than the virus. The same people screaming at us to stay indoors right now are the same people who berated us for not running to Chinatown to hug a chink six weeks ago. Like someone said earlier countries didn't shut down for smallpox or other contagious, deadly diseases. I'm also beginning to think Fauci is the lead doomer in all of this because this is the role of the century for him. He's also pretty cavalier about people's livelihoods disappearing and everyone's life being turned upside down. I get the WHO lulled everyone into a false sense of complacency early on but at some point an official with an understanding of pandemics and human behavior needs to devise a way to selectively quarantine the most vulnerable while allowing the immune to return to work/school. People will ignore the quarantine orders once good weather appears and NYC warms up (it already has).

Don't bother talking to a bad faith actor, he pretended he did a study slightly based on the virus, then when nobody gave a shit decided to make his own happening thread where he doxes himself, taunts people about not getting enough dox, spastically "argues" with people, and then doxes himself more. Totally don't care tho, he's doing this to SAVE DA WURL. Also obligatory tranny.

tldr - faggot pretended to be a black man to be right, probably pretended to be a woman to be right at some point, and is now pretending he knows how to breathe properly.

 

[Homegrown Homophobia]

I think I have identified my least favorite type of person in the Coronapocalypse. It's the ones who virtue signal on social media about how they spotted a couple holding hands or a parent taking their child with them to the shops and were scandalized by the idiocy and nerve of some people. Then they scold their readers to obey the rules or else the quarantine will last longer!!111!!! as if the government and health officials are like an elementary school teacher waiting for the kids to be quiet before leading them down the hall to recess.

In Los Angeles the quarantine has brought out everyone's Stasi informant. The local subreddit is filled to the brim of snitches and people freaking out over random people exercising or just making the best of a shit sandwich and enjoying themselves outside.

 

[737 MAX Stan Account]

Never forget. He mainlines the Stem Cells of a Million Aborted Babies to maintain his immortality. That's gonna be hard for Corona-Chan to fight through.

He's been awfully quiet though. Nurgle will eventually welcome him into the fold.

 

[Cosmos]

Look at Raab's expression in this interview. He looks seriously worried. Even the cunty journo asking him stupid questions sounds spooked. This is apocalyptic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn8H7JWmqGY

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It's fucking surreal and scary to have a world leader succumb to this disease. Not just asymptomatic, but full-on "needs to be in intensive care" levels of serious. Corona-chan spares no one.

I'm not a Brit and not a fan of Johnson's policies or beliefs, but I hope he pulls through. Nobody deserves COVID-19, it's a nasty bitch.

 

[Rudy Russo]

Outside China:

1,263,634 confirmed / 71,344 dead / 199,326 recovered

1191192 / 66086 / 182986 yesterday

Iran

60,500 confirmed / 3,739 dead / 24,236 recovered

58226 / 3603 / 19736 yesterday

USA

367,507 confirmed / 10,908 dead / 19,598 recovered JohnHopkins
368,137 confirmed / 10,937 dead / 19,828 recovered Infection2020

337,274 / 9633 / 17449 yesterday JohnHopkins
337,595 / 9651 / 17461 yesterday Infection2020

Spain

136,675 confirmed / 13,341 dead / 40,437 recovered

131646 / 12641 / 38080 yesterday

Italy
132,547 confirmed / 16,523 dead / 22,837 recovered

128948 / 15887 / 21815 recovered

France

98,984 confirmed / 8,926 dead / 17,429 recovered

93,780 / 8093 / 16354 yesterday

Germany

103,374 confirmed / 1,810 dead / 28,700 recovered

100123 / 1584 / 28700 yesterday




NYC dead past seven days:

1096 / 1374 / 1562 / 1867 / 2254 / 2472 / 3485

 

[Shaka Brah]

The real problem with Boris being in the ICU: he's had it for 10 days. It means we don't have a therapeutic regimen that halts progression of the disease.

The UK is going to ensure the best minds get together as far as the PM is concerned. If the best minds have no answer, this complicates a lot of other things, like opening the economy back up.

Let's pray for Boris. If someone can't come up with something, that's the future of the Western economy.

It appears he wasn't being treated with any therapeutic regimen at all, either because he refused it or it wasn't considered necessary. There's been no mention of him being given any treatment in the past.

 

[Ivan Shatov]

It appears he wasn't being treated with any therapeutic regimen at all, either because he refused it or it wasn't considered necessary. There's been no mention of him being given any treatment in the past.

My impression of the British is they are experts at keeping secrets, and would treat his medical care as a state secret.

If it's true, and he received no medicine, that would surprise me.

 

[plgfarts]

Just today, in my small (>10k) city in northern Wisconsin, I saw multiple vehicles with plates from California, Georgia, and Texas. No doubt these are people with second (lake) homes.

And in the last few days, we have recieved word of 3 confirmed cases.

 

[Shaka Brah]

My impression of the British is they are experts at keeping secrets, and would treat his medical care as a state secret.

If it's true, and he received no medicine, that would surprise me.

That's a good point. Still, you'd think they would have wanted to reassure the public that he was being given a certain minimum level of care versus just suddenly announcing he went into the ICU, right? The way they reacted to this overall was just incredibly bizarre from an American perspective.

 

[heathercho]

Until a vaccine is found, strict social distancing measures may be our best hope of stopping the spread of COVID-19.
“That’s probably the one model that has the least risk from a health point of view, but obviously socially that would be quite difficult,” Frazer said.
“The alternative would perhaps be the Swedish model, where those people who are of an age where the chances of them getting seriously ill with the virus are very small, could perhaps be allowed to go back to work and socialise.
“But the people who are at high-risk and who have pre-existing conditions, they would have to practise at least social distancing and possibly social isolation.”

Coronavirus update: Professor Ian Frazer explains how long the COVID-…

archived 7 Apr 2020 03:09:15 UTC

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That sounds awfully like a dictatorship. This old twat thinks people will abide by having no life for over a year.
People will put his head on a pike long before them. No one is going to live like this into eternity.
The cost of these idiotic policies are already showing to be - rise in suicides, domestic violence, sexual assault, murder.
It also comes at the cost of major health issues - Cancer screening has been stopped, cancer patients being turned away from treatments, pathologists being told to stop regular work, go home and wait to be called up if they're "needed". Oh, but you'll be sad to know, that in Australia, another 95 year old died in a nursing home of the coof today.
We're at 41 deaths. All over the age of 50 - but most in the 80-90s. It's cost us billions. I know I'm sure relieved! Maybe a 92 year old will be spared the coof and live for another 2 months before they die of something else!

*EDIT : Frazer is the HPV vaccine nut. He dismisses anyone who's died after getting it as "Sheer coincidence".


Oh, what's this?

Coronavirus Australia: SA nurses’ hours and jobs cut by COVID-19 rule…

archived 7 Apr 2020 03:09:33 UTC

archive.vn

Nurses being laid off and not asked to help? I thought this was a crisis? Is it not a crisis? But I was told that there'd be bzillions in hospital by now.

David Clark will continue as New Zealand’s Health Minister, despite labelling himself an ‘idiot” and offering to resign his position for a second blunder during the country’s lockdown.
Days after Dr Clark was caught mountain-biking near his Dunedin home in spite of the lockdown, he revealed he also took his family on a coastal walk on the previous weekend.
The first charge breaks the lockdown’s rules as a potentially dangerous activity, the second does so as the walk was not local; it was 20 kilometres away.

Coronavirus lockdown blunder costs NZ Health Minister David Clark | 7…

archived 7 Apr 2020 03:11:18 UTC

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Well, that's a relief. Mountain biking is a very dangerous activity. I'm glad that Horseface has saved her shithole from impending doom!

 

[jje100010001]

He's trying to figure out how to turn this pandemic to his advantage. Expect even more predatory lending as "aid" and insane territorial claims.

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I think the lowest-hanging territorial fruit is the South China Seas, coming from the news that they sunk a Vietnamese fishing ship.

Not really something that will alarm the international public, and really more of what they’re doing already.