Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Incidentally, as regards Boris

Coronavirus: What do the figures tell us about Boris Johnson's chance…

archived 7 Apr 2020 20:39:04 UTC

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But anyone wondering specifically about Mr Johnson can find hope in another statistic.

According to his official spokesperson, the prime minister has not been placed on a mechanical ventilator, instead receiving "standard oxygen treatment", most likely using a device which blows air into the lungs.

Patients who don't go on a ventilator in the first 24 hours in an ICU survive 83% of the time.

Those who are put on a ventilator in that period have a much lower survival rate - just 32%.

It seems like it's based on the ICNARC figures

These are

Figures are slightly different but that could just be journalistic innumeracy

If you Google it the media are reporting this 'If he doesn't need a ventilator in the first 24 hours his chances go from [low] to [high]" factoid and not citing a source and often coming up with slightly different figures

E.g.

ventilator first 24 hours - Google Search

https://archive.vn/wip/qSe6n

Look at this

Boris Johnson: What coronavirus hospital data says about ICU patients…

archived 7 Apr 2020 20:51:44 UTC

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Half of Covid-19 patients moved to the ICU survived in a recent report from the U.K.’s Intensive Care National Audit and Research Centre, but the survival rate rose to 70% if they didn’t require mechanical ventilation in the first 24 hours.

There's something seriously wrong if people working as journalists can't get this sort of thing right. It's from 33.7% to 80.3% if you just change the 'needed advanced ventilation in the first 24 hours' variable. Sure you can round to the nearest percent if you want but it's depressing how many journos are quoting different figures and not citing their source, especially when many of them are doing it on the web. If people don't cite, you might as well assume they heard it from one of their buddies who probably remembered it incorrectly.

Also as a few people have alluded to in this thread the UK, being the UK, it may very well be that if Boris is on a ventilator we would not be told immediately because the UK's political system is not perfectly transparent about things which have national security implications like a sick PM in a crisis. Historically UK governments have covered this situation up. And honestly, looking at the state of the media do you blame them?

 

[Cosmos]

I'm not particularly concerned at all because I'm not in the position of believing the media, especially not within the first 24 hours of some headline-hunting "Trump is evil" sort of story. I'm just going to kick my feet up, keep an eye on the story and see how it develops because going into an arm-flailing rage about this stuff always seems to completely break down when it's examined for any length of time. It doesn't pay to be a reactionary in this day and age, especially not when the media's trying to make you panic.

If it's a completely honest story and he's firing the person who's looking at the checkbook purely because he got buttmad about something, yeah I'd find it concerning. I don't for a second believe that they're telling the truth, though. Always seems like this stuff pans out to be a lie or they're omitting some incredibly crucial information.

I agree it’s a good idea to wait for the facts to come out, but the fact remains that Trump has repeatedly fired people from independent federal watchdog groups and doesn’t seem to be taking the importance of having an overseer seriously.

I also do not have faith in Trump’s choices for his own candidates, given his track record. That’s why I want the overseer of this relief fund to be someone with a good track record who doesn’t have ties to the current administration.

 

[Not Really Here]

I agree it’s a good idea to wait for the facts to come out, but the fact remains that Trump has repeatedly fired people from independent federal watchdog groups and doesn’t seem to be taking the importance of having an overseer seriously.

I also do not have faith in Trump’s choices for his own candidates, given his track record. That’s why I want the overseer of this relief fund to be someone with a good track record who doesn’t have ties to the current administration.

It's one guy on a board.
Executive branch, Chief Executive is the boss and gets to fire people. Stop hating our form of government.

 

[large_farva]

Another nurse died, another nurse chickens out and quits:

But THAT particular nurse is a full of shit lolcow.
I posted this previously, archive

Jussie Smollett in Scrubs: CBS Story of Crying Nurse Who Claimed No COVID-19 Protection Just Crumbled

CBS pushes unvetted fake news that just happens to make the government look bad as it fights the COVID-19 pandemic.

pjmedia.com

 

[Ellesse_warrior]

Video Archives for April 6

A video on what exactly Tesla is making regarding ventilators:

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Here's a whole funny video about that:

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Ohio's mom, is still posting recipes. Getting bored of that homemade play-doh? There's a recipe for finger paint. No mask making tutorials yet.

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No, the finger paint isn't edible. Neither is the play-doh.

Homemade masks are being recommended for civilians. DeWine claims he'll also wear a homemade mask. Since he's a politician, X to doubt.

Ohioans Advised To Wear Homemade Masks - And DeWine Will Too

Gov. Mike DeWine and Ohio's top health leader say Ohioans should to wear homemade and non-medical grade masks when they go out in public.But wearing a

www.wyso.org

Ohioans Advised To Wear Homemade Masks - And DeWine Will Too | WYSO

archived 6 Apr 2020 06:57:39 UTC

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Seen lions get a quick pet from keepers before. That'd be close enough to transmit it.

Zoom routed some calls to China by mistake. SomeOrdinaryGamers uploaded a decent video looking deeper into the program. Might be worth a listen if you're into that sort of thing. Too lazy to archive the video.

Zoom admits some calls were routed through China by mistake | TechCru…

archived 4 Apr 2020 00:53:52 UTC

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Zoom’s Flawed Encryption Linked to China

archived 5 Apr 2020 01:15:12 UTC

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Spoiler: SomeOrdinaryGamers video

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In the case of China, I wonder if it happen too often?

Styx and others Youtubers commented about Corona-chan.

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And are big cities even really getting screwed outside of NYC? I watched this and it seems...well, not that bad:

Is it possible that NYC, like Italy and Spain, simply has more unique circumstances and characteristics to make such a virus a maelstrom of shit? Aside from churchgoers or gross spring breakers/Mardi Gras revelers, I don't think most people, not even in other major cities, are as up close and personal in everyday life like NYers are.

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Look at these people. They look terrified.

Good god, if people think it's safe to go out with this thing out there, it isn't. It totally isn't. If you get sick, you're just putting more stress and a bigger caseload on our healthcare workers.

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My take?

Yes. This is correct in many countries about their mindset, belief, and the old age con of ambulance chasing more money.

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Here a double feature presentation where Timcast in these 2 vlogs NYC will bury Corona-chan deaths in parks and the leftist ideology eating itself thanks to Corona-chan.

One Youtuber posted that interesting info.

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NOTORIOUS MSG - CHINATOWN HUSTLER [OFFICIAL MUSIC VIDEO HD]

Forget the other versions on YouTube and iTunes. This is the one, motherdickers. MSG on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/notoriousmsg Twitter: http://twitte...

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Most people in most major cities avoided Chinatown and their local Asian market - this includes Chinese people. I went to Chinatown at the beginning of the outbreak and it was empty.

NYC had hug a Chinamen day and a bunch of white people flooded into Chinatown for parades.

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Gus Johnson, a popular Youtuber, just made a video making fun of Kenneth Copeland. He's a rich televangelist who claimed he could use the power of God to blow Corona-chan away.

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and remember

 

[F_Break]

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If anyone still dismisses this as "just the flu", show them these videos to scare them straight:

"Montefiore Hospital Nurses Say They Feel Like 'Sheep Going To Slaughter'"

My heart goes out to these nurses:

Another nurse died, another nurse chickens out and quits:

More videos below:

Spoiler: Videos of interest please do not archive

This is what happens when most of your economy is black economy:

Economic impact of Covid-19 pandemic:

LMAO, everyone in NYC has now adopted the Antifa look:

This is almost like a new form of performance art:

This Italian doctor does home visits in person, very brave:

How a pandemic changes grieving:

The third video from GMA turned out to be a misleading ploy for attention from a part time nurse/wannabe Instathot. She apparently got into a tiff with management over policy regarding wearing PPE when not in contact with patients and made it sound worse than it was. There's also a screen cap floating around implying she was quitting because turbo bat aids itself was too "triggering" to deal with.

 

[New & Improved Username]

There is a video posted in this thread showing a Japanese study of how the aerosolized particles travel. It's a lot farther that I would have thought, since I thought anything having saliva attached to it would have enough weight for gravity to bring it down somewhat quickly. That wasn't the case. It did depend on being in a still (slowly moving or non moving air) closed room.

I tried search but can't come up with the words that will bring it up.

 

[XYZpdq]

I do not know what models "my sources" are using.

basically the entire panic in a nutshell

"Montefiore Hospital Nurses Say They Feel Like 'Sheep Going To Slaughter'"

lol that fucking hair if she was really scared she'd have at least pulled it back
might as well have a germ-catching net strapped to your head with that mane

 

[Cosmos]

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You’re awesome for doing all this archiving. I try to be better about doing that myself but I usually make these posts from my phone where archiving is a bitch.

 

[Ellesse_warrior]

You’re awesome for doing all this archiving. I try to be better about doing that myself but I usually make these posts from my phone where archiving is a bitch.

No worries, I need them anyway for the github. These two sites are handy for phone video archiving http://twittervideodownloader.com/ and https://www.y2mate.com/en42 . It's still annoying flicking through the windows on a phone but I use them a lot when something needs to be grabbed quickly

 

[eternal dog mongler]

For those of you following your local cases, how good have governments been about disclosing actual relevant information that could help you make decisions?
Case in point, a senior home in my county apparently just reported a number of cases, but we aren't being told which one. Out of "privacy" concerns we don't know if the other cases that came in over the weekend were the result of community spread or travel, as apparently the first confirmed cases were.
Maybe this is just me but if I caught this I'd be telling everyone who would listen where I've been and who I talked to over the last two weeks. I don't need your name, address, or SSN but for fucks sake tell me if you went to the same Walmart I did.

In South Korea they'd send you a text message if you were in the same area where a positive case came from and then recommend you get tested at one of their drive-through testing sites. This requires extensive use of GPS data and the government tracking your every move.

In the US this is obviously impossible and most county health authorities have given up on contact tracing. Also our private labs aren't reporting to my county's public health division so...uh, that ain't good.

 

[Cosmos]

I know this is anecdotal but now I’m feeling bad for all the zoo animals who are bored and lonely

I mean, I’m sure most of them don’t care but there are still some animals that are used to a lot of enrichment and interaction with people.

 

[Radical Cadre]

I see the "China Virus makes men sterile" thing popping up again for the first time in a while. Once again I see no evidence at all to back that claim up. I don't know if this is true or not, but I would very much like to see evidence in either direction. It seems like a big fucking deal if true; and if it is not true it is the kind of thing that needs to be stamped out immediately.

 

[Not Really Here]

There is a video posted in this thread showing a Japanese study of how the aerosolized particles travel. It's a lot farther that I would have thought, since I thought anything having saliva attached to it would have enough weight for gravity to bring it down somewhat quickly. That wasn't the case. It did depend on being in a still (slowly moving or non moving air) closed room.

I tried search but can't come up with the words that will bring it up.

Here's what I can find for you-

Source / Archive
The study mentioned- Source / Archive
Not the video you were asking about but good information to have.

 

[murgatroid]

Lol autistic rating. Seriously, you think I should have sex with rando girl I want to bang? I want to. Just kind of indecisive.

I think I offended one of my friends I scolded for meeting up for sex with a stranger. I normally wouldn't care but we all gotta be on thot patrol until the virus passes.

 

[Vince McMahon]

(Ukraine) Our Surgeon-General says we'll be ready for de-quarantining in two weeks, our Ministry of Health says - we're just approaching peak.


Fuck political games.

Also, fuck China.

 

[MediocreMilt]

Here's what I can find for you-
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Source / Archive
The study mentioned- Source / Archive
Not the video you were asking about but good information to have.

I'm just going to point out that there's still going to be a significant difference in infection rate at five feet from a coofer compared to twenty feet.

I think I offended one of my friends I scolded for meeting up for sex with a stranger.

You did the right thing. Absolutely degenerate.

I normally wouldn't care but we all gotta be on thot patrol until the virus passes.

Huh? Virus?

 

[ADHD]

Coronavirus Task Force briefing is airing now:

 

[Not Really Here]

I see the "China Virus makes men sterile" thing popping up again for the first time in a while. Once again I see no evidence at all to back that claim up. I don't know if this is true or not, but I would very much like to see evidence in either direction. It seems like a big fucking deal if true; and if it is not true it is the kind of thing that needs to be stamped out immediately.

Source / Archive

The Chinese study / Archive of the Chinese study

Google is handy.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

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The Chinese study / Archive of the Chinese study

Google is handy.

Chinese Study?, might as well say Entirely Made up Study.