Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata

[heavycream]

Probably mass reported.

It was a number of psychiatrists stating that alternate states of identity are not individuals or personalities, rather fragmented parts of a whole identity.

Thankfully this thread itself has links and discussions of reputable psychiatric articles saying the exact same thing. They can try clear their name on twitter for only so long.

 

[BScaller!]

Heat's getting too much so aiming for a suicide-bait sympathy grab? "Go hard or go home"

I was wondering the same thing. She seems likely trying to bait the audience onto thinking shes gonna off herself so everyone will forget about the Twitter shit storm. Shes keeping it vague bc she'll get more attention that way. So manipulative!

 

[heterotic]

I was wondering the same thing. She seems likely trying to bait the audience onto thinking shes gonna off herself so everyone will forget about the Twitter shit storm. Shes keeping it vague bc she'll get more attention that way. So manipulative!

We will either see an "our audience convinced us to stay" followup or some fake sob story about another split due to some obscure trauma that sounds like another suicide attempt.

 

[i forgot my password]

The account doesnt exist anymore. They deleted it? Hmm

Just remember to archive links because tweets can be deleted. Use archive.is.

 

[Godisanatheist]

So Tatiana is an alter, with Paul gang (mcstrudel) and Jessie and seekah, stemming from jessekah’s YouTube page, following onto Paul’s YouTube account to finally Tatiana’s YouTube account (they’re all referenced in Tatiana’s YouTube related channels section) where Tatiana’s support to trish led to death threats and hate and insults, which led to a video with editing on dissociadid’s meet my alters video with a mix of memes and ‘seems fake’. To me it seems like dissociadid’s fans went rabid biting everything in sight.

 

[heavycream]

Archived the critical tweet about Chloe's Pottergate diagnosis for posterity, since all the critical tweets seem to be purged by the fans. http://archive.today/NiFl2

 

[Gramh]

Is it just me or does it seem like new alters seem to pop up just to keep her content fresh? It's just so damn convenient that since she's had her channel she just sorta produces alters regularly.

So Tatiana is an alter, with Paul gang (mcstrudel) and Jessie and seekah, stemming from jessekah’s YouTube page, following onto Paul’s YouTube account to finally Tatiana’s YouTube account (they’re all referenced in Tatiana’s YouTube related channels section) where Tatiana’s support to trish led to death threats and hate and insults, which led to a video with editing on dissociadid’s meet my alters video with a mix of memes and ‘seems fake’. To me it seems like dissociadid’s fans went rabid biting everything in sight.

Pretty much. I don't know what exactly Trisha did to Chloe other than call her crazy (which got the weirdest reaction in her video, like someone had sent her a video of a puppy being beaten to death). These people are just looking for any fight they can get into. Pretty sure they went after the psych who did a quick analysis of her too?

 

[Sperghetti]

This cannot be for real. What the fuck. Is it a full moon tonight or something where the hell are you people coming from?

It actually is a full moon, funnily enough.

Anyway, sorry this is dredged up from pages back, but it really stuck out to me:

I poked through her deviantart a while back, but didn't see much of note. I took a few screenshots of things that caught my attention, but they were minor.
1. In a journal entry she mentioned that her doctor wanted her to stop drawing her art. It looked like maybe she tried to take a break for a while but came back. She said it was the only thing she liked about herself and compared it to heroin in that she finds herself doing it compulsively.

Doesn't it seem strange that a doctor would advise their patient to stop participating in a hobby that's not only harmless, but often considered therapeutic? Under what circumstances would they want somebody to stop drawing?

There's a good chance this is a total lie, but on the off-chance it isn't... does this mean her doctor knew that she was drawing bizarre sneeze fetish porn?

 

[incorrigible shit goblin]

There's a good chance this is a total lie, but on the off-chance it isn't... does this mean her doctor knew that she was drawing bizarre sneeze fetish porn?

Was this account exclusively of her sneeze fetish porn or did it include art of alters too? Maybe the doctor saw the art as a gateway to more harmful activities. Studies have shown that encouraging people to explore their dark fantasies leads to them actually doing it. Nan literally draws child porn by her own admission. I’d tell my patient to stop drawing too.

If the account also featured alter art, it could be that the doctor was trying to get her to stop indulging her delusions. This is just how I’m interpreting it, but I could be wrong.

All I know is this is whack shit.

 

[DissociaDONT]

It actually is a full moon, funnily enough.

Anyway, sorry this is dredged up from pages back, but it really stuck out to me:


Doesn't it seem strange that a doctor would advise their patient to stop participating in a hobby that's not only harmless, but often considered therapeutic? Under what circumstances would they want somebody to stop drawing?

There's a good chance this is a total lie, but on the off-chance it isn't... does this mean her doctor knew that she was drawing bizarre sneeze fetish porn?

Seeing this, I was going to go ahead and post the screenshots. I still have the pages in my internet history, though. The direct links appear to be working for me for whatever reason.

I can go through later and see if I have anything else. Still not sure there's anything worthwhile in there, but I might as well share if people are pondering on it. If the links don't work, I've still got screenshots handy.

In no particular order:

"Professionals" told her to stop.

Fursona of her and, I assume, Sam

She seems to have a weird love-hate relationship with her art, idk.

Just a really weird, unhealthy relationship with art.

Commissions and art school.

Waxing existential about her sneezing fetish.

Drawing is like heroin.

There are a lot of journal entries like this.

DA ID that lowkey makes me kind of sad, because I'm sure those bracelets are there to hide self-harm back when she still hid it.

On a related note, I honestly think she's a good artist. It's just a shame she didn't use her powers for good... or, at the very least, not underage fetish porn.

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ETA:
Checking back in on that Grandad video, things have gotten a bit interesting.

The like ratio is markedly higher than any of his previous videos on the subject. It's also attracting some big DID names. Fragmented Psyche in particular is pissed. The odd thing is that the peons in the DID community are finding it hard to side with their heroes this time. Understandably, the child porn stuff was pretty damning for them... Though, I think Multiplicity came ready to get mad, realized what was going on, and wisely bowed out.

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ADDITIONAL ETA:

Just realized the "best friend" Fragmented Psyche mentions is the one I linked to just today! What a coincidence.

Actual mother, friend of Chloe, influential figure in the DID community.
Bonus for that last one: Recently came out as being into DDLG, (tagged fragmentedpsyche) but is adamant you don't call it that because it's totally not sexual.

I feel like a lot of the DID community might not have a problem with underage fetish art.

 

[Ryanstartedthefire]

Edit: Nevermind I was really late.

 

[CumSnot]

Waxing existential about her sneezing fetish.

Ew, okay, I'm a new user, but I've been following along with this thread since it was started. I, too, came across Chloe in my YouTube recommendations and watched a few of her videos. I guess I was suspicious because I found myself Googling her real name to look up any news releases to confirm her story of going missing and found the OP. I didn't find anything substantial, but when I started looking into Nan's sneezing fetish... yikes.

The quoted link from DissociaDONT includes comments - one from someone who claims they know Nan from the SFF forums and their username is "SnowyDays"... this led me to finding the SneezeFetishForum, where I searched for "ggoldduck" and found who appears to be Nan under the username "spoider".

One Post linking to Nan's DeviantArt

Unfortunately (fortunately?), the SneezeFetishForum website is having trouble loading at the moment as it is likely overloaded with people furiously masturbating to COVID so I'm struggling to get more search results.

Edit: Does anyone else find it odd that they're Nin and Nan? Like Yin and Yan? I was thinking, like, Yin and Yang, but Yin and Yan are also apparently characters in Final Fantasy and they are siblings.

Yin is a master puppeteer able to control his puppet sister Yan by summoning her.
(to the UK)
lol

 

[feelings]

I see it in Nan's body language that she absolutely loves and adores Chloe, but I think she's incapable of finding happiness through herself, (she has 7 years of mental illness on Chloe) and is going to depend on Chloe to support her.
I don't sense that Chloe feels the same way about Nan. She is bright, young, hot and cute and could find a better partner. A partner who isn't a burden and who motivates her to want to pull herself up and out of the dark pit of mental illness. Instead, these two will enable each other and spend their days roleplaying their silly characters for youtube shekels instead of having two healthy, normal lives.

 

[DissociaDONT]

Ew, okay, I'm a new user, but I've been following along with this thread since it was started. I, too, came across Chloe in my YouTube recommendations and watched a few of her videos. I guess I was suspicious because I found myself Googling her real name to look up any news releases to confirm her story of going missing and found the OP. I didn't find anything substantial, but when I started looking into Nan's sneezing fetish... yikes.

The quoted link from DissociaDONT includes comments - one from someone who claims they know Nan from the SFF forums and their username is "SnowyDays"... this led me to finding the SneezeFetishForum, where I searched for "ggoldduck" and found who appears to be Nan under the username "spoider".

One Post linking to Nan's DeviantArt

Unfortunately (fortunately?), the SneezeFetishForum website is having trouble loading at the moment as it is likely overloaded with people furiously masturbating to COVID so I'm struggling to get more search results.

Edit: Does anyone else find it odd that they're Nin and Nan? Like Yin and Yan? I was thinking, like, Yin and Yang, but Yin and Yan are also apparently characters in Final Fantasy and they are siblings.

Yin is a master puppeteer able to control his puppet sister Yan by summoning her.
(to the UK)
lol

Okay. Yeah. I found a few of her posts. It's just... yep... That's her thing. There's this really creepy subforum about seeing people sneeze in the wild and getting off on it. Nan ADORES being sick. Apparently, sneezing arouses her in public, which wouldn't bother me too much if not for the fact that she's involving fans in the fetish, showing them videos of her sneezing and shit.

Also, she likes nosebleeds. Which was comparatively way, way better. But then I remembered she had a nosebleed in a livestream. And then my cat sneezed. And now I'm uneasy around her and she's not sure why. There was a fetish D&D campaign and-- I'd post some links, but my cat just sneezed again. It's a sign from either God or Satan that I need to go to bed. Y'all ctrl f "Spoider" and go through the 2011 posts at your own risk.

 

[comrade666]

I'd quite like to see Chloe take up her trolls in court though, just for entertainment.

I can see her pulling a Weinstein and coming to court with her cane all hunched over and frail. Morphing into her tiger alter to start growling on all fours when her case gets dismissed.

Heat's getting too much so aiming for a suicide-bait sympathy grab? "Go hard or go home"

She's going to go swimming again and tell everyone she nearly drowned herself. I still find it odd that she claims she tried to hang herself to form Omega. Hanging is so mainstream. Drowning has flair until you get hit by the boat coming to rescue you.

I was wondering the same thing. She seems likely trying to bait the audience onto thinking shes gonna off herself so everyone will forget about the Twitter shit storm. Shes keeping it vague bc she'll get more attention that way. So manipulative!

You don't see Tatiana making vague threats. You see her burning herself on camera and spiralling completely out of control. And yet her fans will call that manipulative but not a vague sounding tweet designed to feed into her martyr complex.

Pretty much. I don't know what exactly Trisha did to Chloe other than call her crazy (which got the weirdest reaction in her video, like someone had sent her a video of a puppy being beaten to death). These people are just looking for any fight they can get into. Pretty sure they went after the psych who did a quick analysis of her too?

Her reaction to being called crazy was so very obviously rehearsed. She was so proud of it she put it at the start of her video as a teaser for later. Sitting there perfectly poised, head cocked to one side, listening with her polite smile on, the slow blink, the glance up into the camera, pulling her lips in. It was all so choreographed to make it seem like she was very hurt but holding it all inside demurely like the patient saint in the face of adversity that she so desperately wants to be.

It's... hard... to sit here and... [heavy sigh] one, call me crazy! [laughter] [jump cut] And spread misinformation that's very incorrect and damaging about our community which undoes a lot of the hard for that me and a lot of other content creators in the DID community have done.

She was absolutely in her element when filming that if you go back and watch it. It was a true test of her acting ability, the first time she had ever been faced with a conflict with a bigger YouTuber and she was loving every single second.

Doesn't it seem strange that a doctor would advise their patient to stop participating in a hobby that's not only harmless, but often considered therapeutic? Under what circumstances would they want somebody to stop drawing?

There's a good chance this is a total lie, but on the off-chance it isn't... does this mean her doctor knew that she was drawing bizarre sneeze fetish porn?

I'd be willing to bet that the therapist saw the nature of the art and found the pedophilic undertones disturbing when combined with whatever Nan had shared in therapy. On that note, I think it's important to note than in recent years Nan has actually developed brain damage as a result of an accident. Doesn't brain damage lower inhibitions and make people with such inclinations more likely to act on them?

Fragmented Psyche in particular is pissed.

Fragmented Psyche is always pissed about something. Good find with the rest of the links. I don't know what it is about Nan as a duck that really fucking creeps me out but I think it's the giant beak knowing what we know about her thing for noses.

Edit: Does anyone else find it odd that they're Nin and Nan? Like Yin and Yan? I was thinking, like, Yin and Yang, but Yin and Yan are also apparently characters in Final Fantasy and they are siblings.

Apparently, Nannin means something like many people in Japanese but I really can't see them being that stupid.

Okay. Yeah. I found a few of her posts. It's just... yep... That's her thing. There's this really creepy subforum about seeing people sneeze in the wild and getting off on it. Nan ADORES being sick. Apparently, sneezing arouses her in public, which wouldn't bother me too much if not for the fact that she's involving fans in the fetish, showing them videos of her sneezing and shit.

Also, she likes nosebleeds. Which was comparatively way, way better. But then I remembered she had a nosebleed in a livestream. And then my cat sneezed. And now I'm uneasy around her and she's not sure why. There was a fetish D&D campaign and-- I'd post some links, but my cat just sneezed again. It's a sign from either God or Satan that I need to go to bed. Y'all ctrl f "Spoider" and go through the 2011 posts at your own risk.

I'll take a look through that and archive what I can. It creeps me out but you've braved it for long enough. I think it's important to archive proof that she really is getting off on doing this shit in public as it proves there's a predatory element to her exposing her fans to it.

ETA: I've archived your links from the last post but try to archive yourself in future using archive.li as they're deleting things at a rapid rate. Links won't be live for long.

my dA ID I guess...?
I'm such a silly silly child...
About drawing...
Being one of those silly folk...
*ahem*... regarding commissions....
About the words 'good enough'...
Why I AM 'good enough'...
Why 'giving up' doesn't exist...

DID Mom pretending to be a baby while her real children are presumably in bed.

Spoiler

DID Mom insisting that dressing up as a baby while dressed in full hair and make up isn't sexual.

Spoiler

 

[Gramh]

I'm curious now that the clock is ticking and people are getting more curious about Nan's inappropriate fetish, how long before Chloe will low key throw Nan under the bus to save face.

 

[comrade666]

I'm curious now that the clock is ticking and people are getting more curious about Nan's inappropriate fetish, how long before Chloe will low key throw Nan under the bus to save face.

I've been wondering the same. I think we're looking at three potential scenarios here.
The first being, she throws Nan under the bus as you say, and denies any prior knowledge of her inappropriate and predatory behaviour but fully condemns the drawings and the involvement of fans.
The second being, she doubles down on her love for Nan and makes some statement claiming that her abusers disguised as internet bullies are making something innocent seem evil, and protected by the DID community of whom a surprising amount seem fine with the fetishisation of children, they continue with life until Nan takes it a step too far and engages directly with a real child at which point everyone steps back and says they had no idea.
The third being, she ignores the situation entirely, until Nan takes it a step too far and engages directly with a real child.

Anyway, here are Chloe's various statements on Pottergate in the last few hours.

The assessment is recorded and then stamped by a psychiatrist! But maybe stamp was the wrong word to use? But it's my medical history so it's none of your business even though I advertised Pottergate and Remy and the whole process on my channel!

Being diagnosed was scary and expensive so you don't get to question me.

Actually, my university didn't require a diagnosis. They just wanted me to get six months of therapy for something unspecified but they still wouldn't let me back in! I got the diagnosis by myself because I was advised to by some new random therapists I've never mentioned before

WOW we didn't misrepresent anything and yes I'm using we pronouns again because I forgot to use them in the heat of anger and I've been saying me, my, I, up until this tweet, but the point is Remy and a psychiatrist diagnosed me. I mean... us.

Pottergate is a reputable clinic and you're just being mean! Anyway, Remy is retiring now, leave him alone.

 

[Gramh]

I love that backtracking, obfuscation and especially the handwaving of I don't owe you that information. Pottergate Center and Remy seem to be on the hot seat right now. Grandad and Twitter folk double-teaming the story and Chloe squirming. Waiting for someone to bring up that it's sketchy to not see the psychiatrist in person to get more of an assessment, even though I'm not sure if that's necessary or not in the process?

 

[Weaverwild]

I've been wondering the same. I think we're looking at three potential scenarios here.
The first being, she throws Nan under the bus as you say, and denies any prior knowledge of her inappropriate and predatory behaviour but fully condemns the drawings and the involvement of fans.
The second being, she doubles down on her love for Nan and makes some statement claiming that her abusers disguised as internet bullies are making something innocent seem evil, and protected by the DID community of whom a surprising amount seem fine with the fetishisation of children, they continue with life until Nan takes it a step too far and engages directly with a real child at which point everyone steps back and says they had no idea.
The third being, she ignores the situation entirely, until Nan takes it a step too far and engages directly with a real child.

She either ignores it, or goes for option 4, blaming the whole thing on a previously unmentioned evil persecutor alter and Nan didn't know about any of it before now because amnesia walls.

 

[BScaller!]

I love that backtracking, obfuscation and especially the handwaving of I don't owe you that information. Pottergate Center and Remy seem to be on the hot seat right now. Grandad and Twitter folk double-teaming the story and Chloe squirming. Waiting for someone to bring up that it's sketchy to not see the psychiatrist in person to get more of an assessment, even though I'm not sure if that's necessary or not in the process?

Absolutely! She is feeling the pressure. She seems to really crave attention more than anything so I'm guessing she will just flat out lie, continue to lie. She wouldn't be able to deal with this whole fake universe she's created being exposed. Her entire life is built around this false identity and clearly she doesn't have the moral compass to even feel bad. I think shes just feeling bad for herself and worried about how to get around it all. There is a plan being devised in her oh so creative mind. Get your popcorn.

Anyway, here are Chloe's various statements on Pottergate in the last few hours.

Also I love the titles you gave these links!! Lmao

Add on: I bet Nan is one of the only people on earth who's enjoying the coronavirus..too soon..nahhh!