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1.5 million confirmed cases of coronavirus worldwide, death toll approaching 90,000

So with China's numbers that would be a death toll of .06% right? Seems like the general response of stay at homes was the right one.
 
Yeah, lockdown will kill. Ive already seen one serious breakdown. Lockdown needs to be a final resort measure, and lifted ASAP.
Yes, a co-worker already had a client commit suicide. Guy had an older relative get it and since you can't even visit in hospital nor really get any updates. He just called her up and said he was done and shot himself during the phone call.
 
Or because there’s a lot of black people in big cities, which are powder kegs for disease as is. Detroit’s already had people whinge about this, Atlanta probably isn’t far behind, and the county in AL with the most confirmed case by far is its biggest city and is like 50% African American. Would they cry racism if a plague carried by cow feces hit Mumbai?

Its more hitting the illegal latino population around Atlanta. And really stupid Wypipple. Black cases are more inline with their percentage of the population. Atlanta is more a sprawling low density city with barely used mass transit. Even less so now. The only people on the trains are infected mentally ill hobos. (No really the city is debating shutting the trains because noone but cv positive homeless crazies are on them.)
 
Deathfat Labour Mayor and paralegal Sheila Oakes got expelled from the party and is suspended from her job for talking shit about Boris on Facebook.



I kind of feel a bit sorry for her to be honest. She's obviously a fucking idiot but all she was doing is talking shit about the Conservatives like all her friends do on Facebook and Twitter. One of her friends decide to fuck her over, sent a screenshot to the media and now she's basically lost everything - once the mob turned on her both her party and her employer have cut her loose. Brutal. If you go on Twitter there are loads of people saying much more offensive stuff than she did. She tried to virtue signal but just wasn't smart enough to sense that the mood changed as soon as Boris went into intensive care and suddenly Boris Derangement Syndrome was seen a signalling vice, not virtue.
 
Deathfat Labour Mayor and paralegal Sheila Oakes got expelled from the party and is suspended from her job for talking shit about Boris on Facebook.



I kind of feel a bit sorry for her to be honest. She's obviously a fucking idiot but all she was doing is talking shit about the Conservatives like all her friends do on Facebook and Twitter. One of her friends decide to fuck her over, sent a screenshot to the media and now she's basically lost everything - once the mob turned on her both her party and her employer have cut her loose. Brutal. If you go on Twitter there are loads of people saying much more offensive stuff than she did. She tried to virtue signal but just wasn't smart enough to sense that the mood changed as soon as Boris went into intensive care and suddenly Boris Derangement Syndrome was seen a signalling vice, not virtue.
Would it help her or hurt her if she said that she didnt mean it and was only virtue signaling?
 
New York state now has more confirmed cases than any country in the world.
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damn no wonder nyc fell so hard.

To put this fully in perspective. The New York epicenter has now shifted out onto Long Island. Suffolk County. The Eastern half of LI. How or why you may ask? Well even with his dailly press conferences, his crying and demanding every ventilator in the nation. Etc. Cuomo never bothered to shut down the trains. The LIRR runs packed trains in and out of the CV filled city. Day in day out. Most of NYPD is infected. They live out on LI. Cuomo did nothing to restrict the travel into and out of the virus areas. And he owns it 100%. The Railroads. LIRR and MTA are his. Not NYC's. Not the Counties. We've seen pictures of the insanity that is the trains in the middle of a pandemic. This is a massive failure.
 
Minor LA Suburb Update:
- Everyone is bored out of their minds. The police were called into a domestic abuse case involving family members punching each other over missing toilet paper.
- Idiots keep calling the cops on people they see outside doing stuff they feel is breaking rules. Someone was trying to get daycares (limited to kids of essential workers) shut down because the toddlers weren't wearing masks or practicing social distancing.
- Mask laws are ramping up all over the place. The paranoid people are all in favor of more laws, more masks, and nobody ever going outdoors again.
- Apparently this is the worst week to go grocery shopping so we should all not go out. Two weeks ago they told us to only stock up for two weeks, so people are fussing.
- The LA Mayor is the greatest and "doesn't he look good on camera" and he should probably run for president.
- Lots of people in LA are in an absolute panic about rent. This will increase as the end of the second month gets closer. (Our rents are crazy high and even with the eviction freeze, paying back rent is going to kill everyone.)
- My friend in NYC has left and gone home to his parents. (He's really young and just moved there and I support his decision)
- My friend in AZ says everybody there assumes the virus will die with the hot summer.

That's about it. Some more people died but overall, CA seems to be handling this well. I still don't know anybody sick, but some friends do.
 
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Would it help her or hurt her if she said that she didnt mean it and was only virtue signaling?

She actually apologized but she's fucked no matter what she says


A Derbyshire councillor has apologised for saying the prime minister “completely deserves this” after his admission to an intensive care unit.

Sheila Oakes, the mayor of Heanor, had the whip withdrawn by the Amber Valley Labour group after making the comments in response to a Facebook post about the news. While she is no longer a Labour councillor, she can sit as an independent politician.

Underneath a post asking people to say a “little prayer” for Boris Johnson on Monday night, Oakes wrote: “Sorry, he completely deserves this and he is one of the worst PMs we’ve ever had.”

On Tuesday, she told the BBC she was sorry “for upsetting people and saying it”.

“I didn’t think what I said would upset so many people. It came across as not a nice thing to say,” she said. “I’m concerned about nurses and doctors who don’t have protective equipment. I said something when I was angry without thinking about the prime minister or his family.”

The leader of Amber Valley Labour group, Chris Emmas-Williams, told the broadcaster there would be an investigation into Oakes’ conduct.

“This behaviour is totally unacceptable and not what the Labour party are about,” he said. “I’ve not made the comments, but I feel as leader of the Labour group I have to apologise as well to Boris Johnson and his family, and we wish him well because we need everyone possible to fight this disease.”

She'll stay as Mayor until the next election as an independent and then Labour will run someone against her, presumably Williams or one of his cronies, and then she'll have no job, no office, no party, and no friends. All for saying this on FB

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You can see only 4 people reacted, a mix of thumbs up, heart and angry. One of the one or two angry ones must have gone to the media and that fucked her life.
 
To put this fully in perspective. The New York epicenter has now shifted out onto Long Island. Suffolk County. The Eastern half of LI. How or why you may ask? Well even with his dailly press conferences, his crying and demanding every ventilator in the nation. Etc. Cuomo never bothered to shut down the trains. The LIRR runs packed trains in and out of the CV filled city. Day in day out. Most of NYPD is infected. They live out on LI. Cuomo did nothing to restrict the travel into and out of the virus areas. And he owns it 100%. The Railroads. LIRR and MTA are his. Not NYC's. Not the Counties. We've seen pictures of the insanity that is the trains in the middle of a pandemic. This is a massive failure.
They also didn't shut down the PATH system at all which lead to tons of people from New York coming into NJ.
 
Isn't it fishy then Fauci wants longer delays for a creation of a vaccine? https://www.americanthinker.com/blo..._of_the_problem_not_part_of_the_solution.html

April 8, 2020
Fauci now is part of the problem, not part of the solution
By Howard Richman
The South Korean solution to the COVID-19 virus (widespread testing and the hydroxychloroquine-zinc cure) is beginning to work in the United States. Americans, like South Koreans, will soon be back at work and school. But at Monday's Coronavirus Task Force press briefing, Dr. Anthony Fauci ignored the success.
Instead, he pretended that the only way the U.S. could get back to normal was through vaccines and new therapies. He was responding to a question directed to him, and him only, by reporter Jonathan Karl at the 37:37 mark of this video:

Karl: Will we truly get back to normal before there’s a vaccine available to everybody?...

Fauci: … I believe with the therapies that will be coming online, with the fact that I feel confident that over a period of time we will get a good vaccine, that we will never have to get back to where we are right now. So, if that means getting back to normal, then we’ll get back to normal.

Fauci was being disingenuous. His own organization NIAID (one of the institutes of NIH) is slow walking both therapies and vaccines. For example, NIAID is currently conducting a study on the effectiveness of Remdesivir, a drug which, along with chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, proved effective against COVID-19 in the Chinese test-tube studies. Here's NIAID's schedule for completing Phase 3 of its approval process:

  • Actual Study Start Date: February 2, 2020
  • Estimated Primary Completion Date: April 1, 2023
  • Estimated Study Completion Date: April 1, 2023
Believe it or not, that is not a misprint! Fauci was touting new therapies even while his own organization was slow walking the most promising of them so that it would not be ready until 2023!
 
1.5 million confirmed cases of coronavirus worldwide, death toll approaching 90,000




- January 19: 100 cases
- January 24: 1,000 cases
- February 12: 50,000 cases
- March 6: 100,000 cases
- March 18: 200,000 cases
- March 26: 500,000 cases
-April 2: 1,000,000 cases
-April 8: 1,500,000 cases



over/under 6 million cases by May 1st? the R0 has been cut in half thanks to quarantine; 300k deaths by May 1st.
 
I agree it’s a good idea to wait for the facts to come out, but the fact remains that Trump has repeatedly fired people from independent federal watchdog groups and doesn’t seem to be taking the importance of having an overseer seriously.

I also do not have faith in Trump’s choices for his own candidates, given his track record. That’s why I want the overseer of this relief fund to be someone with a good track record who doesn’t have ties to the current administration.
given his track record (https://archive.li/L42e5)
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I know this is anecdotal but now I’m feeling bad for all the zoo animals who are bored and lonely (:_(

I mean, I’m sure most of them don’t care but there are still some animals that are used to a lot of enrichment and interaction with people.
Archive of the reddit post: https://archive.vn/KHSGW

New article popped up on our county rag - a hospital in the area will be one of two running clinical trials for a new anti-viral COVID-19 treatment called Remdesivir that disrupts RNA replication.

We've only had two hospitalizations reported with pretty good isolation practices in place and I don't know if those people are even still hospitalized, so I'm not sure who they're supposed to be trying it out on. Guessing we're selected in part because we're easier to logisticize than the bay area - St. Joe's already owns all our medical care.
An Experimental COVID-19 Drug Has Been Cleared for Trials in Humboldt County (https://archive.vn/UPLJw#selection-593.0-593.76)
In Canada my leaders look fucking shook i think this virus is far worse then they are saying also these figures dont look good 50% of critical cases result in a fatality 5% are critical but it gets worse 15% are severe cases and without medical treatment many of them will go critical resulting in 10% fatality assuming hospitals are at full capacity which makes sense with Italy's 10% death rate which makes sense with the fact this virus is really similar to SARS 2003 that boasted a 10% death rate my guess is that the 2% death rate is under optimal hospital care which when this blows up good luck getting a hospital bed and oxygen tank furthermore 50% of patients are 50 and under that require critical care.

1.Archive of ICNARC page: https://archive.vn/TcMq9
2.Link to ICNARC'S 4th April 2020 report: https://www.icnarc.org/DataServices/Attachments/Download/76a7364b-4b76-ea11-9124-00505601089b
exactly why politicians and (failed) businessmen need to keep their mouths shut about all of it.
let medical professionals speak-epidemiologists, pharmacists, etc and keep the trust-find babies' opinion off the airwaves.



thank you for helping prevent the 2022 Great Resistant Gonorrhea Wave



don't order anything from overseas right now.



on the discussion of trump "doing a good job closing the border with JIiina" again: regardless of who they were, anyone who had traveled to an affected region needed to be put into monitored quarantine immediately. white, yellow, American, British, I don't give a fuuuck. into the bottle they needed to go.




we got REALLY FUCKING LUCKY before. you can only get lucky so many times.
1.Archive of CNBC news article: https://archive.vn/Bek7c
2.Archive of Wikipedia page: http://archive.li/67DAI
so I got my answer why swine flu in 2009 was such a nothingburger comparing to corona: we just passed the total number of deaths in US from H1N1 that happened over a year, and it's just first 2 months...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_swine_flu_pandemic_in_the_United_States
Swine flu pandemic in the United States (Archive)
Also what have they actually done lately other than "report" 'findings' that quite literally everyone knew already?

I mean fuck man, the CDC is actually setting up 5 minute tests everywhere and even got CVS to start free ones in three areas.

Oh also for the wuhan deadpool, I'd bet we won't actually get a definitive answer for a while and then all of a sudden at some point we find out it's on fire, and locusts have formed a symbiotic relationship with said fire, creating a flaming locust tornado.
and even got CVS to start free ones in three areas (https://archive.vn/JtZfB)
I can't help but notice that their critique never goes any deeper than that either, which always makes my eyebrow go flying up because outside of Mainland China, the rest of the world doesn't have a visceral, knee-jerk reaction to hearing "Falun Gong" because they aren't demonized anywhere else. If the Epoch Times is such a horrible newspaper then where's all the evidence of it? Where's the stories they've fucked up, where's the stories they had to retract?

Just go look at the front page right now. All of the stories that they're presenting look perfectly normal and they're not dripping with partisanship that goes one way or the other. They can even write about Trump without veering off into seething hate or boot-licking praise. It could easily be argued that a lot of the stories that they put out are particularly critical of the Chinese Government, but that's probably less to do with them being Falun Gong and more to do with that being the general opinion of anyone who isn't drinking stupid juice.

How is it that the only "criticism" ever laid at their feet is "they're Falun Gong devils reeee" as if that's supposed to be a compelling argument to anyone who isn't living in some concrete shack in the middle of Beijing?
Archive of Epoch Times frontpage: https://archive.vn/P4No4
About this optimistic "herd immunity".
More and more research points to the fact that people who recovered from WuFlu have low or non-existent antibodies.

https://www.newsweek.com/covid-19-r...s-antibodies-found-recovered-patients-1496776

In addition there were multiple reports of possible reinfection. I know the scientists reporting it were Chinese, but if I remember correctly there was also report from South Korea.

I don't want to sound like a doomer, but I'm not sure what to think about it...
Archive of Newsweek article: https://archive.vn/5lrFb
Archive is rip so here's the copy paste:

The Trump administration and the GOP would have us get sick and die while they profit off of tax dollars.

Want to know how it works?

1.) Eliminate oversight of the spending of nearly a trillion dollars of tax dollars: https://thehill.com/regulation/cour...lus-opens-new-front-in-trumps-oversight-fight

2.) Aquire the authority to command which businesses get which contracts: https://youtu.be/MlQx7Qs2ACI

3.) Have trusted people stand up companies through which the money can be funneled (3 week old company, founded through a loan approved via the Coronavirus Stimulus bill, is now the center of medical supply distribution): https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/27/republican-fundraiser-company-coronavirus-152184 “I don’t want to overstate, but we probably represent the largest global supply chain for Covid-19 supplies right now,” he said. “We are getting ready to fill 100 million-unit mask orders.”

4.) Have the federal government sell, at a reduced price, it’s strategic stockpile to the new companies, run by your buddies: https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1245841458323771393

5.) Have the states bid on the supplies, driving up the price: https://youtu.be/2zeEUs7tcpE

6.) Have the federal government spend taxpayer dollars to ship supplies purchased from China to these brand new private companies: https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...witter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_term=nprnews

7.) Eliminate the competition. Attack any company that doesn’t play ball. https://mothership.sg/2020/04/trump-3m-10-million-masks/

Edit 2: electric boogaloo

Congress and the Supreme Court aren’t going to do shit. Neither is Biden or the DNC. We need another Battle of Athens.

Fun fact: the position with the highest constitutional power is your county sheriff. They have the ability to block feds from entering and leaving the county. A few did this back during the whole “extraordinary rendition” thing whenever that was.

I would pen an email, letter and call to your county sheriff citing sources and your concerns of the feds taking your hospitals supplies. I just thought of this replying to you and I will be doing this tomorrow. We need sheriffs and deputies guarding our hospitals from the feds.

Jesus fucking Christ
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Anyone here want to try and give an opposing opinion? This made it to the top of /r/bestof
Archive of LA Times article linked in OP's thread(reddit): https://archive.vn/vFa4G
The Trump administration and the GOP would have us get sick and die while they profit off of tax dollars.

Want to know how it works?
1.) Eliminate oversight of the spending of nearly a trillion dollars of tax dollars: https://thehill.com/regulation/cour...lus-opens-new-front-in-trumps-oversight-fight (Archive)

2.) Aquire the authority to command which businesses get which contracts: https://youtu.be/MlQx7Qs2ACI (Archive)

3.) Have trusted people stand up companies through which the money can be funneled (3 week old company, founded through a loan approved via the Coronavirus Stimulus bill, is now the center of medical supply distribution): https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/27/republican-fundraiser-company-coronavirus-152184 (Archive) “I don’t want to overstate, but we probably represent the largest global supply chain for Covid-19 supplies right now,” he said. “We are getting ready to fill 100 million-unit mask orders.”

4.) Have the federal government sell, at a reduced price, it’s strategic stockpile to the new companies, run by your buddies: https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/1245841458323771393 ( Archive )

5.) Have the states bid on the supplies, driving up the price: https://youtu.be/2zeEUs7tcpE ( Archive )

6.) Have the federal government spend taxpayer dollars to ship supplies purchased from China to these brand new private companies: https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...witter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_term=nprnews (Archive)

7.) Eliminate the competition. Attack any company that doesn’t play ball. https://mothership.sg/2020/04/trump-3m-10-million-masks/ (Archive)



Congress and the Supreme Court aren’t going to do shit. Neither is Biden or the DNC. We need another Battle of Athens.

Fun fact: the position with the highest constitutional power is your county sheriff. They have the ability to block feds from entering and leaving the county. A few did this back during the whole “extraordinary rendition” thing whenever that was.

I would pen an email, letter and call to your county sheriff citing sources and your concerns of the feds taking your hospitals supplies. I just thought of this replying to you and I will be doing this tomorrow. We need sheriffs and deputies guarding our hospitals from the feds.

Jesus fucking Christ
EU fails to forge a joint response. Spain and Italy absolutely livid. This may actually turn out to be a death blow to the European experiment.
Archive of Reuters article: https://archive.vn/mjIg4
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Hmm not sure if any of the other more medically inclined Kiwi's have noticed this finding about this disease probably not being what everyone is thinking it is. An anecdotal account from a NYC doctor DOES IT CAUSE ARDS? This could somewhat explain the lack of effectiveness of the respirators, where there is that 50% failure rate when the patients are put on the respirator. So if anything we are beginning to see some creditably to some of the hydroxychloroquine treatments where there is that time window of reduction in the virus in the early stages. There is actually outside of the popular trump drug, some research being done on Ivermectin another anti-viral that has some effectiveness on reducing COVID replication 24-48 hours after the virus has been introduced. No clinical trials have been done with that finding, but some researchers in Australia have conducted this research.

Hemoglobin study if anyone would like to check it out, there could be some validity to this finding. Especially if we find out that the oxygen deprvation isn't being caused by the pneumonia, rather the pneumonia is just another side effect from what is going on actually with in the blood. Some AI tools that have been developed AI Tool that predicts COVID complications Doomer Boomer Jim shared the smoking link of a lower hospital admission of smokers in China in the early Wuhan studies. So there could be some credibility to the blood disease angle after all, that if anything ARDS is only the last effect that is had once full respiratory failure has been set in. Again, I am not a doctor only a control systems technologist student. These are just some interesting findings of the day, stay safe Kiwis!


More conspiracy theory time:


We wuz Covid....

Uptake: It's a gundam
The World Is Burning Let's MEMEsturbate: I'm self Isolating with my Wife and Her Boyfriend


My take?

Funny but true. This is a cold hard fact on who, what, and how people in society.... influencers, ignorant people are dealing with the pandemic.

And many of then given a choice. I'll use this old but true Chinese adage to vent out my frustration on the whole affair. It goes like this...

"It takes thousands of dollars and years of wasted time to put a convicted killer to death.
But in China it only takes a few hours and a 50 cent bullet to do the same."

I going to put up the mantra later on what to do about this pandemic as it seems there are new people on this topic. I have to go out to plague ville and deal with things.

Just Remember...
CHINA LIES...
CHINA STEALS...
CHINA EATS EVERYTHING...

Forgot to quote this one:
Tucker: How long will the lockdowns last?(Source)
and remember
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I went to the store yesterday and they were selling re-purposed plastic vodka bottles of 'liquid hand sanitizer' made by a local liquor distillery:

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Could they have maybe packaged it a way that doesn't encourage winos to guzzle it all and die?
>WHO formula

into the trash
 
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