Snowflake Chloe Wilkinson / DissociaDID and Nanette Zuniga / Nan / TeamPinata

[Ryanstartedthefire]

Most recent comments to Grandad include a lot of hurr-durring and the type of 'bullying' language the community alleges to hate so much. A few people say they no longer like Nin/Nan now that this has come to light.

Sucks he’s getting hated on for telling the truth, but he should be happy. As long as that video stays up he’s going to get a huge check from YouTube.

 

[heterotic]

I agree that it shouldn’t be shameful to talk about suicide and attempts

I don't think that was the point any of the criticism was about, it was about the fact that it's dangerous, as suicidal behavior is contagious. She's basically denying decades of scientific research on cluster suicidality.

I do believe that she was evaluated for DID and was told she has it

Not told she has it, she received a recommendation that she "probably" has it, that 57% of visitors to Pottergate receive. This means she should have gone to a psychiatrist for confirmation, where she would have been advised it was something else, because there is no evidence of childhood abuse or other trauma.

I do believe that she truly thinks she has it

There's no way. She adjusts way too much based on criticism to seem more believable. She wouldn't make up lies and storylines.

It's possible she believed it initially, but I don't think so. She was specifically looking for this diagnosis. Clinicians overwhelmingly state that patients who get diagnosed with it go in for everything OTHER THAN DID.

Sucks he’s getting hated on for telling the truth, but he should be happy. As long as that video stays up he’s going to get a huge check from YouTube.

Bingo. Plus, he brought it on himself, even if I'm happy someone did it. He's still rather spergy.

She has NSFW artwork of her minor characters on furaffinity. Kingsley is 17. I'm not sure how old Bobbi (the blonde) is.

I fucked up and didn't highlight the part I wanted to quote

But yea, even trying to sense that her excuses are legitimate in her own mind, it's all clearly just bullshit.

 

[pd2jzutg2]

I don't think that was the point any of the criticism was about, it was about the fact that it's dangerous, as suicidal behavior is contagious. She's basically denying decades of scientific research on cluster suicidality.

Yeah, that’s what I was trying to get at by saying if she really wanted to talk about it then she should have waited until she has “recovered” from the attempt, 13 hours later wasn’t the right moment as it comes off way too manipulative and absolutely shoves the idea into people’s heads. She’s defending herself by saying “well I shouldn’t be ashamed of it” but no one is saying she should be, just that it wasn’t the right wording and she shouldn’t have said that to her hundreds of thousands of followers. Hell honestly even the way she’s talked about her forest attempt is not a good way to go about that — oh sorry I should be criticizing Omega on that one

 

[crankytomas]

The CP and their argument against it reminds of me of a Brass eye episode (07)

Skip to 17:30 to lighten the mood

(Might not work if you're in the US)

 

[Cooking Mama]

Just checked in and apparently she didn't know what the word porn meant. Incredible. Also arrived in time for a shout out to us and the suggestion that no one here has ever suffered from trauma because we're Mean. Personally, I'd rather become Mean On The Internet as a result of trauma than become A Fucking Pedophile, so I think we're winning.

Hey now, that’s not very nice of you to make assumptions on our mental health as a mental health advocate, Nan. I mean, you said it yourself in your video about Trisha, you don’t have the authority to diagnose anyone, yet you said we don’t suffer any kind of illnesses or trauma...

I thought making assumptions about people and their mental health were what you, Chloe, and your community were actively fighting against. Shit, I guess that goes out the window when someone starts questioning you or pointing out the weird shit you’ve done.

 

[DissociaDONT]

Love how so many people just assume no one criticizing Chloe and Nan struggle with mental illness. Everyone has to pull out their trauma credentials to step up the podium and talk. I know powerleveling is a bad idea here, but I feel like a lot of these two's detractors could take home a medal or two in the oppression Olympics. Chloe is like the Jamaican bobsled team of trauma.

 

[Cooking Mama]

Love how so many people just assume no one criticizing Chloe and Nan struggle with mental illness. Everyone has to pull out their trauma credentials to step up the podium and talk. I know powerleveling is a bad idea here, but I feel like a lot of these two's detractors could take home a medal or two in the oppression Olympics. Chloe is like the Jamaican bobsled team of trauma.

I’ve been noticing that, too, while I was browsing through the tags on twitter the other day. Many of their fans and “mental health community members” were outright bullying others or saying that the dissenter doesn’t have any trauma/mental illness so they don’t understand in various ways. One in particular felt forced to explain her defense and go into her own mental illness since she was being hounded by Chloe and Nan WKs, which was ironic to me. Chloe, Nan, and their fans are always so quick to say, “you shouldn’t make assumptions about mental health! End the stigma!” and then turn around and say, “well, you’re not a mental health professional” or “you don’t have any trauma or mental health issues” to anyone questioning or dissenting against their Glorious Leaders. Though they preach that Chloe doesn’t have to talk about her trauma or disorder if she doesn’t want to, they’re quick to turn around and question and make assumptions of others. The level of hypocrisy is staggering and just further continues to spotlight how unhealthy the community surrounding these two really is.

 

[Shrryph1]

Love how so many people just assume no one criticizing Chloe and Nan struggle with mental illness. Everyone has to pull out their trauma credentials to step up the podium and talk. I know powerleveling is a bad idea here, but I feel like a lot of these two's detractors could take home a medal or two in the oppression Olympics. Chloe is like the Jamaican bobsled team of trauma.

Could not agree more. Obviously, TMI’ing here is against the rules and earns a bitchslapping for doing it. Which is absolutely fair and understandable given the pragmatic reasons and culture of the site. But many posters here, myself included, have done it anyway. Precisely for the reason that their antics are seen as dangerous and offensive to those who have struggled with serious issues either themselves or with loved ones. People who are dragging these two over the coals aren’t all just doing it because they’re a bunch of heartless meanies who take pleasure in picking on easy targets like the mentally ill and marginalized.

 

[comrade666]

Another statement from Fragmented Psyche. Seemingly a follow up from her statement that she would continue to expose her children to Nan despite her obvious pedophilia. Timezone censored to protect source once again.

In other news, Nan's livestream will be posted tomorrow. It's full of downplaying, blatant lies, and simps.

 

[DissociaDONT]

Another statement from Fragmented Psyche. Seemingly a follow up from her statement that she would continue to expose her children to Nan despite her obvious pedophilia. Timezone censored to protect source once again.
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I assume the "Riv" they have the caregiver relationship with is DID Mom. I'm glad they cleared up that it's non sexual. Now that I'm looking again, I can totally see it's not sexualized. It doesn't look like DDLG material at all.

 

[heterotic]

Love how so many people just assume no one criticizing Chloe and Nan struggle with mental illness. Everyone has to pull out their trauma credentials to step up the podium and talk.

This is because they think they are special snowflakes, and everyone who is obsessing over them is a mental health fetishist, not an advocate.

You can't have mental health issues or trauma unless you tell everyone about it and also agree with everything that the people they worship say and do.

I assume the "Riv" they have the caregiver relationship with is DID Mom. I'm glad they cleared up that it's non sexual. Now that I'm looking again, I can totally see it's not sexualized. It doesn't look like DDLG material at all.

Small children I've heard ask someone to be their "daddy": 0

Adults roleplaying as small children I've heard ask someone to be their "daddy": 1 ***

Adults I've heard ask someone to be their "daddy": A FUCK TON

*** This is surely out of pure avoidance

 

[AmbiTron]

I assume the "Riv" they have the caregiver relationship with is DID Mom. I'm glad they cleared up that it's non sexual. Now that I'm looking again, I can totally see it's not sexualized. It doesn't look like DDLG material at all.

God damn that's disturbing. What's with the way all these people pretending to be kids rock side-to-side or back-and-forth? I know a good number of kids and only the super autistic ones do anything resembling that.

 

[Twinkie]

Archive: Instagram Live 04/11/20 for @jeremeerplus (TeamPinata / Nan)

This is the entire stream start to finish, courtesy of @notpasta45

 

[heterotic]

Archive: Instagram Live 04/11/20 for @jeremeerplus (TeamPinata / Nan)
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This is the entire stream start to finish, courtesy of @notpasta45

She has NSFW artwork of her minor characters on furaffinity. Kingsley is 17. I'm not sure how old Bobbi (the blonde) is.

What is she going to say to downplay this?

and what the fuck is this macro/micro shit??

It's so spergy that they call each other by their brand names. "I love you, too, DissociaDID". EW

 

[DissociaDONT]

Archive: Instagram Live 04/11/20 for @jeremeerplus (TeamPinata / Nan)
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This is the entire stream start to finish, courtesy of @notpasta45

God, I hope people aren't swayed by the idea that she "didn't know what porn meant."

Looks like Chloe is still supporting her based on the comments. This video wasn't so much an explanation or apology as it was Nan getting mad people found out in the first place. The fetish itself isn't the problem, and surely she knows that. Also, a fetish isn't an "affinity." A fetish isn't a sexual preference or a kink, it's a fetish.

fetish

a form of sexual desire in which gratification is linked to an abnormal degree to a particular object, item of clothing, part of the body, etc.

The support in the comments is horrifying.

 

[Shrryph1]

Man, I just finished watching the livestream. I have empathy, probably more than I should and I used to think I was a good judge of character, but I’ve decided in the last several months that may not be as true as I thought. But watching that, it is difficult for me personally not to believe she really is humiliated and upset by all this stuff coming to light. And we all made dumb, dumb mistakes in our past. And as others her have pointed out, of goddamn course being sexually abused as a child will fuck you up sexually for life.

All that said, Nan was still an adult, albeit a younger adult when she drew these things. And it’s hard to believe she really didn’t know she was making kiddie porn for perverts. How much crossover was there between the fetish community she was active in and the people who commissioned her work with cartoon characters? I’m a bit older than Nan, but I don’t know any of these characters except Rainbow Brite because I used to play with the dolls and watch the cartoons at, like, six-years-old. When people want you to draw children’s cartoon characters for them, sexualized in any way, or with the artist’s own fetish imposed on the work, how could she not know what was going on? She wasn’t raised under a rock.

Furthermore, people who engage in stuff like this, it often can escalate into worse and more daring situations unless they’re finally exposed, held strictly accountable and urged to get all the help they desperately need. Before they actually do go to far one day and do hurt someone or cause someone to get hurt with their actions. So, I can feel empathy for someone, logically understand how something might have put them on a scary path, but also not feel bad they got found out and forced to own up. Even if it is humiliating and painful.

Also, the fact we’re all under fucking lockdown right now should be enough to understand having something like a communicable disease fetish isn’t entirely personal. It’s potentially quite dangerous to people around you when your kink happens to be catching and acting in a way that could spread illness.

 

[Pontiac Dumpsterfire]

Archive: Instagram Live 04/11/20 for @jeremeerplus (TeamPinata / Nan)
This is the entire stream start to finish, courtesy of

I was hoping for more of a Paula Deen apology but I guess we have to deal with the televangelist style "explaining away" technique.

 

[heterotic]

it is difficult for me personally not to believe she really is humiliated and upset by all this stuff coming to light. And we all made dumb, dumb mistakes in our past.

She probably is humiliated. So are many child abusers. It's not a pass. I cannot empathize with someone who downplays minors depicted in pornography, no matter what fetish or cartoon type they choose. It's all defined as child pornography in the US for a reason. Her drawings are not that old. If she had drawn them when she was a child, this would be a different story. She was an adult. I don't care if it was from when she was 20 25 or 30. An adult.

And as others her have pointed out, of goddamn course being sexually abused as a child will fuck you up sexually for life.

I am still confused as to where exactly this is coming from. I have not seen CSA mentioned once prior to the discovery of her sneezing porn. Is there any mention of her DID being due to CSA prior to Pete's videos?

When people want you to draw children’s cartoon characters for them, sexualized in any way, or with the artist’s own fetish imposed on the work, how could she not know what was going on?

She did know. There was fetishist artwork on her blog that was clearly her own with minors being depicted in obviously sexual ways.

 

[Shrryph1]

I am still confused as to where exactly this is coming from. I have not seen CSA mentioned once prior to the discovery of her sneezing porn. Is there any mention of her DID being due to CSA prior to Pete's videos?

I remember an older video of, I think, the alter Riven talking about being a trauma holder saying he now knew things and hated one of Nan’s relatives because of what she endured. I’d go find it, but she took all her videos down, so, can’t.

This isn’t still to say it isn’t all bullshit, people can work on elaborate backstories for some years and it’ll evolve over time as they flesh it out. But there was some vague allusion to childhood sexual abuse by a family member. Maybe a funny uncle, who knows?

 

[heterotic]

I remember an older video of, I think, the alter Riven talking about being a trauma holder saying he now knew things and hated one of Nan’s relatives because of what she endured. I’d go find it, but she took all her videos down, so, can’t.

This isn’t still to say it isn’t all bullshit, people can work on elaborate backstories for some years and it’ll evolve over time as they flesh it out. But there was some vague allusion to childhood sexual abuse by a family member. Maybe a funny uncle, who knows?

Ah, okay, so another vague accusation that contains plausible deniability while still creating a space for her viewers to fill in the holes with a backstory. Not unlike Chloe does.

These people really are the fucking worst.