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Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big
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They were also doing testing in the broader community last week. I have little doubt that the president could get access to this test if he wanted to.
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Do you honestly expect Italy to even humor the thought of not going along with what the EU is offering?
Also, what do people want from the EU? With all the trashtalking of the northern European states you're shelling out, I feel justified in saying that the south's definition of "solidarity" seems to always boil down to receiving free money.
I am sorry for the terrible shit that is going on in Spain and Italy, but this vitriol and hypocrisy over not getting Eurobonds is just ridiculous.
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Do you guys need a Deep Thoughts thread for plastic bags or something
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Dear god no, they can't even admit paper weighs more than plastic.
Try one called 'Why do environmentalists shit on every new technology invented in the last 50 years?'
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No need mate. I'm pretty sure it's uncontroversial to say that (((globalists))) and the Chinese banned plastic bags as part of White Genocide.
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Dame Pesos's latest video mentioned this remarkable poll
https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/1247900712027049993
https://web.archive.org/web/20200408145732/https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/1247900712027049993
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Obama would beat Trump, Trump would beat Biden.
Archive of the Politico article
https://web.archive.org/web/2020040...rump-biden-coronavirus-leadership-poll-173346
Also John Southern has video of the cops dragging someone off a bus in Philadelphia allegedly for not wearing a mask
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qXpDbuSDs0
https://archive.vn/wip/YsEkJ
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It seems like he was asked to leave the bus, police were called, he resisted and they dragged him off. The video was then shared on social media and the sight of a proud West Philadelphian man being manhandled by cruel East Philadelphian cops caused the bus company to change its policies. Now you can ride the buses in Philly without wearing a mask and The Man can't do nuffin to ya! I'm guessing we're going to be hearing that coronavirus infection rates will be particularly bad among public transport users in the future and that West Philadelphian men are most affected.
https://web.archive.org/web/2020041...e-masks-requirement-coronavirus-20200410.html
After a viral video shows a man being dragged off a bus, SEPTA reverses its coronavirus face mask requirement
The person seen in the video was not arrested or cited, according to the Philadelphia Police Department.www.inquirer.com
Do the mental midgets not remember that Obama failed to take any precautions or mandate any traveler quarantines of people traveling from fucking Ebola hot zones. Because to do so would be racist and send the wrong message.
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Ohio is now counting presumptive cases as confirmed for corona, E;G if a nursing home resident dies of suspected corona and other residents have already died of Corona, the death will be considered a Corona death to free up limited testing resources. Similarly, those showing Corona symptoms in hotspot areas will also be considered Corona positive until testing can be conducted. This is reflected on the Ohio Corona tracking site.
coronavirus.ohio.gov
COVID-19
Everything you need to know to prepare for, and protect yourself from Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
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Stephen Crowder did a version of Arthur's theme for wuflu
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Well, they did and the chinks paid damn good money. For our recyclables. The bottom dropped outta the market. They stopped buying.
When the recycle truck comes by on Thursday to empty the blue bin, I guarantee those are going to the same landfill as the general garbage green bin is going on Tuesday.
Fucked as it is, there is zero market for recyclables right now.
Anyone with a bigger brain, please feel free to prove me wrong.
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Before this all started happening, there was that huge brouhaha between Canada and the Philippines last year about trash shipments to the former being sent back by the latter.
Yeah, I too was kinda surprised that most of the stuff we """recycle""" is too cross-contaminated to be actually reclaimed into anything usable. The stuff really does just wind up being thrown out with regular household trash. And in the end it makes sense... even my own family members never bother to wash out their plastic bottles and throw their food scraps still in the containers thinking they'd be sorted out once collected. There's only really two "R"s in the process: Reduce and reuse.
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Numberphile did an episode with Hannah Fry who made a very prophetic documentary called Contagion back in 2018 about a pandemic. It's about the mathematics of modeling, the implications of an R0 of 0.62 and whether the lockdown will kill more people than the virus. Her example is maternal death spiking in Sierra Leone during the Ebola lockdown or of people deciding not to see a doctor over something which turns out to be cancer and could have been treated if they had done but will be uncurable if they delay. Also, South Africa has suspended vaccinations. She points out that it's not 'lives versus money' but 'lives versus lives'. She talks about the possibility of easing the lockdown to get an R0 between 0.62 and 2.5.
She reckons mathematicians were initially more concerned but got less concerned. If you're not concerned about dying in the next year you shouldn't be concerned about dying in an outbreak. For example, if you're over 80 and in the highest risk category, you still have an 85% chance of survival. Brady muses that if people understood the numbers better they might not social distance as much. Hannah can see the argument but she thinks that the fear is dangerous in of itself and mentions the 5G conspiracy and the effect it has. She thinks that conspiracy theories offer some comfort in that there is someone to blame whereas otherwise, it's an act of God. She thinks that if people weren't as scared they wouldn't believe in all this really dangerous stuff which makes them go out and burn 5G towers. She says people arguing about log vs linear graphs is encouraging. Brady muses that it's ironic he seems to be advocating for mathematical ignorance having made a podcast that aims to reduce it. He thinks that log graphs are unhelpful but Hannah reckons that people can still see the numbers on the axis.
They talk about privacy and how in Singapore and South Korea they can track you via your mobile and it makes contract tracking easier but in this case, it is useful. The 2018 documentary showed 'if you have access to the data you can do a lot of things'. Hannah points out it's a question of what sort of society you want to live in and that you should not make drastic changes in response to a crisis.
Incidentally, this makes me think the UK government will send D notices or something like them to the mobile companies to get the data - they are naive if they think the UK government will let rules stop it getting data it believes is necessary in a crisis and that mobile companies would use the rules as an excuse to not hand over the data. Same in the USA to be honest - the government can send companies a National Security Letter to get whatever info it wants.
She mentions Hungary as an example of the dangers of making drastic political changes which are probably bad in the long term, also that Singapore still has lockdowns despite having access to the data.
Brady mentions how people discussing herd immunity seemed to forget that it was people's Mums and Dads dying. Hannah agrees and says it is a deep philosophical question about utilitarianism and that being unemotional allows you to compare different approaches in a rational way but that seeing things as purely mathematical loses something and also mentions that the models 'are not crystal balls' and we ignore their limits at our peril. Models must be part of a suite of evidence. I couldn't agree more.
In the documentary, the number '800K' was mentioned as a possible death toll in the UK. Brady asks her about this. She thinks the number in this will be lower. She mentions 500K was based on a 1% fatality rate, based on the cruise ship. She says that until we have mass testing and know the asymptomatic case rate we don't know the case fatality rate. She says she hopes something will change to reduce the death toll. She's working on a sequel to the documentary and says since making it she became much more cautious about germs as she had a baby in the house and wouldn't let her flu-ridden parents visit. She didn't realize 'it would come this quickly'.
She thinks 'everyone will get it eventually' and that mathematicians will get a lot of blame. If the lockdown works people will wonder if the lockdown was necessary. If it doesn't people will question if the models worked. Brady reassures her that he still appreciates the models.
Brady and Hannah are both very likable people and it's a surprisingly thoughtful discussion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkqtcm3w7Vw
https://archive.vn/DJymD
Local upload of the audio as an mp3.
She reckons mathematicians were initially more concerned but got less concerned. If you're not concerned about dying in the next year you shouldn't be concerned about dying in an outbreak. For example, if you're over 80 and in the highest risk category, you still have an 85% chance of survival. Brady muses that if people understood the numbers better they might not social distance as much. Hannah can see the argument but she thinks that the fear is dangerous in of itself and mentions the 5G conspiracy and the effect it has. She thinks that conspiracy theories offer some comfort in that there is someone to blame whereas otherwise, it's an act of God. She thinks that if people weren't as scared they wouldn't believe in all this really dangerous stuff which makes them go out and burn 5G towers. She says people arguing about log vs linear graphs is encouraging. Brady muses that it's ironic he seems to be advocating for mathematical ignorance having made a podcast that aims to reduce it. He thinks that log graphs are unhelpful but Hannah reckons that people can still see the numbers on the axis.
They talk about privacy and how in Singapore and South Korea they can track you via your mobile and it makes contract tracking easier but in this case, it is useful. The 2018 documentary showed 'if you have access to the data you can do a lot of things'. Hannah points out it's a question of what sort of society you want to live in and that you should not make drastic changes in response to a crisis.
Incidentally, this makes me think the UK government will send D notices or something like them to the mobile companies to get the data - they are naive if they think the UK government will let rules stop it getting data it believes is necessary in a crisis and that mobile companies would use the rules as an excuse to not hand over the data. Same in the USA to be honest - the government can send companies a National Security Letter to get whatever info it wants.
She mentions Hungary as an example of the dangers of making drastic political changes which are probably bad in the long term, also that Singapore still has lockdowns despite having access to the data.
Brady mentions how people discussing herd immunity seemed to forget that it was people's Mums and Dads dying. Hannah agrees and says it is a deep philosophical question about utilitarianism and that being unemotional allows you to compare different approaches in a rational way but that seeing things as purely mathematical loses something and also mentions that the models 'are not crystal balls' and we ignore their limits at our peril. Models must be part of a suite of evidence. I couldn't agree more.
In the documentary, the number '800K' was mentioned as a possible death toll in the UK. Brady asks her about this. She thinks the number in this will be lower. She mentions 500K was based on a 1% fatality rate, based on the cruise ship. She says that until we have mass testing and know the asymptomatic case rate we don't know the case fatality rate. She says she hopes something will change to reduce the death toll. She's working on a sequel to the documentary and says since making it she became much more cautious about germs as she had a baby in the house and wouldn't let her flu-ridden parents visit. She didn't realize 'it would come this quickly'.
She thinks 'everyone will get it eventually' and that mathematicians will get a lot of blame. If the lockdown works people will wonder if the lockdown was necessary. If it doesn't people will question if the models worked. Brady reassures her that he still appreciates the models.
Brady and Hannah are both very likable people and it's a surprisingly thoughtful discussion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkqtcm3w7Vw
https://archive.vn/DJymD
Local upload of the audio as an mp3.
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Agreed.
It's no secret that the first world exports trash to Asia. Just because these countries fail to properly manage waste doesn't mean that the best course of action is to shrug and dump more rubbish at them.
Whatever poorly thought out system that they use there will be even more overburdened with the imported trash. It doesn't help that some first world countries have been caught carelessly exporting hazardous waste as well.
All of this trash will end up in rivers, oceans and waterbeds. Water doesn't know country lines after all. The high levels of microplastics and mercury have been found in the western side of the planet too.
Truth be told, paper and wood are actually more sustainable than the plastic and concrete alternatives. People got so caught up on the idea of protecting forests that they forgot that recycled wood and bamboo exist.
Paper is easily biodegradable and can be recycled but only a few types of plastic are truly recyclable.
I wonder if this pandemic will open people's eyes to the importance of local business especially organic farms. Things like community farming and victory gardens should be way more common.
Most cheap plastic stuff from China can be made locally and with better materials.
The problem has always been consumerism and globalism. You can't do sustainable policy in this sort of environment.
Because of how modern human society is structured it's inevitable that some degree of pollution will always occur. You can't have people traveling all over the world, eating whatever food they want at whatever season, switching smartphones and cars each year, buying unnecessary amounts of clothing and using electricity 24/7; while asking for limited waste.
It's impossible.
The unspoken truth is that our understanding of developed society would have to change. 3rd world countries would have to halt their development goals.
1st world countries would have to policy each other out and use clean energy (be it solar, eolian or nuclear). Cruise ships and private jets couldn't exist. International travel would have to be limited somehow.
Same goes for cars —maybe invest in trains or something. Keep jobs close by and have self sufficient cities. Reduce video quality for streaming and design energy efficient websites and electronic gadgets.
No more planned obsolescence rather we should have modular tech...something that can be fixed or expanded without throwing the whole gadget out.
Modular houses with recycled materials? Modern architecture could do well with less concrete.
3D printed synthetic meat? I'm sure that the technology is available. A specific calendar for agriculture so people can get creative with their food choices and avoid eating food that is out of season? Vertical farming?
Anyway, I digress.
Nobody cares about this Captain Power save the earth shit right now. We are all here to talk about the virus that melts your lungs and most definitely not dissertations on plastic bags. Kindly cease and desist talking about fucking plastic bags here.
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So you have fuck-all to say about this for all of this time, and when you finally open your mouth it's because you want to give Iran money. You know, when this is all said and done we really need to sit down and figure out if there's even anyone left in the Congress and the Senate who isn't deepthroating hostile, foreign cock.
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"Dear Orange Man,
Please give all of the money to a brutal totalitarian regime that has threatened war against this country, covered up the epidemic for the sake of a sham election, deliberately kept the shrines open further spreading the disease, and are lying about the overall toll on the virus in their country just as badly as China is.
Iran will totally not use this money to line their own coffers and use it as an excuse to crack down on their people. You're not a racist, are you?
Sincerely,
Karen of Congress"
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Beshear: Kentuckians who attend mass gatherings this weekend will be ordered to quarantine
https://www.wcpo.com/news/coronavirus/gov-andy-beshear-closes-out-week-with-covid-19-update-friday (https://archive.vn/uqczY)
https://www.wcpo.com/news/coronavirus/gov-andy-beshear-closes-out-week-with-covid-19-update-friday (https://archive.vn/uqczY)
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After the current crisis lifts, I reckon there needs to be reckoning with the EU. Ideally before the next crisis hits. So far we've had the Eurozone crisis, the migrant crisis and now the coronavirus crisis and in each case the EU has made a bad situation worse.
I picture Feinstein, the member for Hollywood, sitting in a room with a bunch of (((Hollywood types))) looking at that poll where Trump beats Biden on coronavirus management and saying: "You know Mr. Shekelbergstein, I know how we'll beat out Trump on coronavirus management and in polling with our (((Chosen People)))! Let's say we're going help Iran get five billion dollars from the IMF because we all know the Iranian government will spend it on helping its people and definitely not buying more centrifuges so it can incinerate your family in Tel Aviv with nuclear weapons" and Mr. Shekelbergstein just staring at her utterly dumbfounded.
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Apparently Obama warned us about coronavirus back in 2014:
The author claims this based on this video:
If Obama supposedly knew better, then why didn't he do anything during his last two years to prepare for an event like this?
The author claims this based on this video:
If Obama supposedly knew better, then why didn't he do anything during his last two years to prepare for an event like this?
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