Wuhan Coronavirus - COVID-19 Analysis & Summary - This is not just fucking pneumonia. It is everything but the kitchen sink. Lungs, heart, kidneys, liver, brain, blood vessels, testes. It affects them all.

Good luck with reworking your document. I’m interested to see the finished product.
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Just in case pt1 of his tweet history

  • @MLocker01 @MichaelCoudrey This is a very old version of this document. My latest version can be found at: https://t.co/3yx672YYfu I'm currently working on something of a thesis on this virus, using this pseudo-bibliography as a basis. This thing is extremely complex. Apr 10, 2020
  • @PhdParody Yet another moron who shouldn't be driving a Carrera GT. Those cars are scary, unforgiving, and dangerous as hell. They have their fuel tank molded into the seats for ideal center-of-gravity. That's why Paul Walker burned to death after wrecking one. A human barbecue with wheels. Apr 10, 2020
  • @nickmmark @nuclearball @yishan LOL at Richard Kollen's reading comprehension fail. That's not what Dr. Mark said at all. What Dr. Mark is proposing is a mechanical constriction of the blood vessels leading to hypoxemia. Also see Angiotensin II's hypertensive effect. This virus makes Ang II back up. Apr 07, 2020
  • RT @nickmmark: Lots of talk about funny hemoglobin and ‘happy hypoxic’ people with #COVID19. I think we can explain everything using plain… Apr 07, 2020
  • @nickmmark This is absolutely excellent. Well done. Apr 07, 2020
  • @Johnincarlisle https://t.co/IURUfCeEuR https://t.co/3yx672YYfu Apr 07, 2020
  • @darakass https://t.co/3yx672YYfu Apr 06, 2020
  • @meganranney https://t.co/3yx672YYfu Apr 06, 2020
  • @KiraNewmanMDPhD https://t.co/IURUfCeEuR Apr 06, 2020
  • @UWVirology https://t.co/IURUfCeEuR Apr 06, 2020
  • You want to know what COVID-19 really is?https://t.co/IURUfCeEuR Apr 06, 2020
  • @cameronks I've compiled an extensive document on this virus: https://t.co/3yx672YYfu Apr 06, 2020
  • @airwaycam @nickmmark We aren't being told the truth about this virus. Check patients for pulmonary vasculitis and/or pulmonary hypertension. https://t.co/5M1OnOMPzn Apr 06, 2020
  • @cameronks COVID-19 could also be causing systemic or localized vasculitis, which may affect oxygen exchange. I recorded a big long talk about it: https://t.co/5M1OnOMPzn Apr 06, 2020
  • @cameronks If no pulmonary hypertension is present, we need to be looking into the possibility that this could also be a form of vasculitis. The blood vessels have ACE2 receptors. https://t.co/9cPlNxLLo6 Apr 05, 2020
  • @cameronks The virus can rise up into the vagus nerve and into the brain stem and cause dysautonomia, depressed breathing, seizures, collapse, and abnormal posturing, as well as personality and mood changes. This is a disease capable of causing hemorrhagic encephalopathy. Apr 05, 2020
  • @cameronks COVID-19 can cause lung fibrosis, myocarditis, pericarditis, liver issues, acute kidney injury, bacterial co-infections, cytokine storms, damage to the testes, low blood potassium, low lymphocytes/WBC/platelets, elevated ferritin, and brain stem damage. Apr 05, 2020
  • @cameronks Excessive pulmonary vasoconstriction. That’s the problem with COVID. ACE2 receptors are used up, Angiotensin II builds up, it causes local inflammation (cytokine storm) and runaway vasoconstriction. That’s how you get hypoxemia without dyspnea. Use vasodilators. Apr 05, 2020
  • @ElectricChub @jason_kint Yes. That's right. I was banned. For suggesting that China was cremating far more people than they said they were. Because China cremated far more people than they said they did. https://t.co/4AUaa9A5CM Apr 04, 2020
  • @slainte39 @MichaelCoudrey I do, in fact, exist. Something happened and I was tracked down and stalked. I had to go dark for a bit. The version of my file that Michael Coudrey posted is actually long out of date. I have continued updating it with new information. https://t.co/1paGnTQ5lo Apr 02, 2020
  • @MarketIsOpen @jason_kint Here's the Lancet, proving you wrong: https://t.co/A8opQOACh2 Time-delay-adjusted mortality in Wuhan may have been as high as 20%. Betacoronaviruses are not to be messed around with: Mar 26, 2020
  • @MarketIsOpen @jason_kint You are the ones suggesting that all the people who were beaten and dragged from their homes by the authorities, stuffed in boxes on the back of pickup trucks, and welded inside their apartments were crisis actors. You are the conspiracy theorists. https://t.co/zw4L4iHhnF Mar 26, 2020
  • @MarketIsOpen @jason_kint You wanna see what really happened in Wuhan? Read this: https://t.co/asORg1RYL9 Mar 26, 2020
  • @MarketIsOpen @jason_kint It's not a conspiracy theory. It's pretty much an unavoidable fact that 50,000+ people died in Wuhan. With their population density, with their lack of warning, and how they commandeered dozens of public buildings to house the sick, do you really think they did better than Italy? Mar 25, 2020
  • RT @SurreyChiefExec: Let’s be clear. Again. 1. The virus does not spread. You spread it. Stay at home. 2. Hospitals are not the solution. T… Mar 23, 2020
  • @PhdParody Ahh, yes. I was missing this one. Now, I must save it. Mar 23, 2020
  • @Cuttiebunny1 I just updated my document with a whole lot more info. We need to be spreading this like wildfire. This virus is so much worse than people think, it’s unbelievable. https://t.co/gcfBAiM7qx Mar 22, 2020
  • @Cuttiebunny1 I started to really freak in early February when I realized what was happening in Wuhan. Then, from mid-to-late February, I studied SARS-CoV-2 and compiled a document on it. I work in public transportation. All my friends and co-workers are at risk and I'm worried sick for them. Mar 22, 2020
  • RT @BlakeHakala: Italy is registering 1 death to the Corona Virus every 4 minutes. Let that sink in. Now let this sink in: California alon… Mar 17, 2020
  • RT @PhdParody: Normally I am against sharing this image out of respect for the late doctor's family but this is real artistic and poetic #… Mar 17, 2020
  • RT @PhdParody: It is no shame to admit that you are the source country! Which country has not experienced a natural disaster? However, it… Mar 16, 2020
  • RT @PhdParody: Now I'm worried... https://t.co/wJfdreESEk Mar 16, 2020
  • RT @pulte: I just spoke to a 32 year old CoronaVirus Patient (who is a medical professional and not an alarmist) says the virus is worse th… Mar 09, 2020
  • @EltonGuardia @MichaelCoudrey The papers I cited are all publicly-available information. The key is putting that information into a complete picture. Lungs, Heart, Kidneys, Brain, Blood Vessels. COVID-19 attacks all of them. Every tissue with ACE2. Mar 09, 2020
  • @lisa_studiom80 @MichaelCoudrey The Spanish Flu also had a mortality rate of about 2 to 3%, and it killed 20 to 50 million people worldwide. The mortality rate isn't the problem. The sheer virulence is. Mar 08, 2020
  • @sethbiehn @MichaelCoudrey There is very high gene sequence homology between SARS-CoV and SARS-CoV-2, enough that it makes sense to examine what SARS-CoV could historically do in terms of pathology and then determine if the same applies to SARS-CoV-2, as well. Mar 08, 2020
  • @NHHome12 @MichaelCoudrey That’s not necessarily the case. The complications can be bad, but many of them seem thankfully rare. It’s important to recognize all the different types of complications that can occur, however. It aids in diagnosis and treatment. Mar 08, 2020
  • @MysterySolvent This is completely false. There are hundreds of people in the US under observation to see if symptoms emerge. There has also been an uptick in influenza-like illness and people coming down with unexplained pneumonia and dying in some towns. COVID-19 masquerades as lesser flus. Feb 29, 2020
  • @PhdParody The farce I have witnessed is absolutely insane in its scope. They are covering up death on an unimaginable scale with... dancing. This is Pythonesque. Reality has become a satire of itself. Feb 28, 2020
  • RT @SenBlumenthal: This morning’s classified coronavirus briefing should have been made fully open to the American people—they would be as… Feb 26, 2020
  • @ProbablyTooMuch @DocRuddy @avengers000111 @jenniferatntd @dajiyuan It didn't have any real toxicity in mice. Heh, famous last words, right? That must be up there with "it works in Kerbal Space Program". I'm still curious about what it does when injected into people. I mean, I hope it would be beneficial and have no negative side effects. Feb 24, 2020
  • @DJSHIRE The CIA literally engaged in human experimentation. The declassified MKUltra docs showed that they dosed unwitting people with LSD. They also raped and humiliated people in gitmo by inserting feeding tubes into their rectums for no discernible medical purpose. Feb 24, 2020
  • @IsChinar I am shocked beyond words. This is horrifying. Feb 23, 2020
  • @AFP @arthurmacmillan @shauntandon Jesus Christ. I wish my country would quit embarrassing itself with this shameful Neo-McCarthyism. Russia didn’t do jack. Citizen journalists, leakers, and independent investigators determined that the outbreak was far more severe than the authorities are saying. Feb 22, 2020
  • @ProbablyTooMuch @DocRuddy @avengers000111 @jenniferatntd @dajiyuan SARS-CoV-2 is causing reinfection and ADE with the same serotype. You develop weak antibodies and ADE and relapse almost immediately. Please look into Dr. Todd Rider and the Rider Institute. Spread the word. There’s a broad-spectrum antiviral that could stop this. Feb 22, 2020
  • @tenzin_tsenpey @RepealAb5 @IsChinar Ohhhhh they’re gonna be pissed Feb 21, 2020
  • @IsChinar I used Google’s OCR translator, and that’s exactly what those characters mean. “Anyone who goes out is an enemy”. “Break legs, beat their teeth”. Holy shit. Feb 21, 2020
  • @Rich12687944 @IsChinar CytoSorb could help with cytokine storms, but there is an antiviral called DRACO invented by Todd Rider, an MIT guy, that can cure almost all viruses. Look it up. Rider Institute. Spread the word. Feb 21, 2020
  • @IsChinar MIT already developed a cure for all viruses years ago. It's called DRACO, and it was developed by Dr. Todd Rider. He was never able to secure funding for his invention, but it's essentially a universal, broad-spectrum antivirus that kills infected cells. Feb 18, 2020
  • @jenniferatntd I've been trying to help people raise awareness. MIT already developed a cure for all viruses 20 years ago, but it never received funding for continued research. Please look up the Rider Institute, Dr. Todd Rider, and DRACO. Feb 18, 2020
  • @jenniferatntd This is disgusting. These people are going to starve. 😰 Feb 18, 2020
  • @90_saqib @MarxistSoccer @RichardDawkins This is patently wrong. Evolutionary pressure is akin to a natural form of eugenics because it selects breeding specimens by means of exposing them to adverse conditions like disease, food shortages, inclement weather, etc. There is nothing ideological about genes. Feb 17, 2020
  • @MarxistSoccer @RichardDawkins They missed the point entirely. He's not saying Eugenics is good. He's saying facts about the natural world are amoral. It's 100% true. Feb 16, 2020
  • @jenniferatntd Have they gone from cremating the bodies to alkaline hydrolysis and saponification instead? That would produce a lot less smoke. And it would also endow the citizens of Wuhan with many crates of wonderful human soap. *vomits* 🤮 Feb 16, 2020
  • @STP48315 @Dutch_Daytrader I predict something like another 2008 depression might emerge from this. Not solely from the virus, but from the fault lines that it exposes. They'll try QE to prop it up, but the strain will be too much. Feb 16, 2020
  • @IsChinar I wonder how many corpses they'll find, of people who died at home? What a complete disaster. Feb 16, 2020
  • @Dutch_Daytrader I bought stock in Gilead and 3M when I heard about Remdesivir and the run on masks, but now, I'm having my doubts. If people knew how bad all this was, there'd be a market crash and I'd have to sell immediately. Feb 15, 2020
  • @CallingOutYour4 @IsChinar I've been attacked by a goose as a child. This was 100% warranted and he pimpsmacked that goose. Feb 15, 2020
  • @IsChinar This is incredibly tragic. Standing water inside the building can increase disease transmission by a lot. :( Feb 15, 2020
  • @19283746five @IsChinar This is history being made right before our eyes. If humanity survives the next few years, people will write books and film documentaries on this disaster. The truth will be known. Feb 14, 2020
  • @jasperatAT @IsChinar It's a circumvention trick, so it doesn't get caught in the dragnet. This is the only way for us to get any information at all, by people cloaking their video descriptions in false optimism. An Orwellian nightmare. Feb 13, 2020
  • @giant_snorlax @RoaringFlappers @lesdawsonsmile @IsChinar They are screaming Wuhan jiayou. But at the same time, if you listen closely, you can hear that not all of the screams are happy cheers. Some are terrified, panicked cries. It's a mixture of both. Feb 12, 2020
  • @bcsunflower @IsChinar I am suffering mentally from all this. You could not find one drop of serotonin in my brain. And yet, when it comes to what is potentially the end of civilization as we know it, I would rather be informed than not. Feb 06, 2020
  • @lionel_jon @realDonaldTrump If he’s smart, he’d be telling his kids when to buy and when to sell before he tweets stuff like this. Anyway, my equity went up by $700 while I was asleep. Thanks, Trump, for making the markets predictably volatile. My brokerage account loves you. Dec 12, 2019
  • @realjuliasong Missionary in the dark for the sole purpose of procreation? Unspeakably vile! Don’t you know the only acceptable method of impregnation in the eyes of God is to use a turkey baster on Thanksgiving? Nov 28, 2019
  • @LisaSu @AMDRyzen @IanCutress Among the current crop of tech CEOs, you're uniquely talented. You have expert knowledge of the product and what it takes to make world-beating semiconductors. You also have a strong will to succeed. Under your leadership, AMD will go very, very far. Nov 25, 2019
  • @CorrectAndrew @AOC Capitalists hardly work. I made $1300 off stocks this year just tapping my thumb on my phone with an online brokerage. I made the equivalent of 86 hours of back-breaking labor in an Amazon warehouse just by tapping my thumb on my phone a couple times. Nov 25, 2019
 
pt 2

  • @nowthisnews The eighties never really ended for Trump, did they? Jun 25, 2019
  • @MattWalshBlog Too bad we don't have rayguns that can turn "theocratic fascists" into pregnant 12-year-old girls. Maybe then, they'd learn a little empathy for the opposite sex. I mean, seriously. Picture someone shoving their meat into you and your gut slowly bloating up with their spawn. May 16, 2019
  • @realDonaldTrump It's a good thought, but it won't work. Structural fires are a completely different animal from forest fires. You need constant, solid streams to cool down the materials. Chemical aerial retardants create a fire break, reducing the flammability of trees not already on fire. Apr 15, 2019
  • @Rafaeslomejor @jackjonesbabe @TulsiGabbard The mainstream narrative: Assad murdered hundreds with chemical weapons and is a power-mad dictator who must be ousted. The reality: the US funneled arms to terrorist lunatics and foreign fighters in Syria with CIA expertise and Saudi money. Timber Sycamore. Google it. Apr 12, 2019
  • @TulsiGabbard If someone's against Assange, they're against the truth, and the truth is that military adventurism doesn't work, the DNC files were an internal leak, not an external hack, and our politicians would rather reignite the Cold War than take responsibility for their wrongdoings. Apr 12, 2019
  • @MartyTheElder Bungie/Activision = Faust/Mephistopheles. Only a moron would replace your work with Led Zeppelin. You're my hero, always. Oct 30, 2017
  • @MKeyboards I have to be careful to restrain my urges. I could very easily end up with $1000 of keyboard swag in my shopping cart. 😂 Aug 29, 2017
  • @WeWantPlates @LilMissCakes I am completely dumbstruck. It took a few moments for me to process what I was seeing, and then, laughter. Deep, spontaneous belly laughter. Aug 29, 2017
  • @alain_hardy @The_Extrange Look up Makeup and Vanity Set's Bandcamp page. We Shadowrun now, chummer. Aug 14, 2017
  • RT @punkzillaa: im sad for the ppl who are genuinely upset about this because u clearly haven't reached this level of comfort in ur life an… Apr 25, 2017
  • @GeneralissimoUK @AngusChowder @jgrebes @TheGatMan I'm part-Scottish, and I say Oliver Cromwell was a dickhead! :P Aug 19, 2016
  • @SJWsnoke Gally/Alita from GUNNM is a good example. Skilled martial artist? Check. Unwittingly responsible for 500,000 deaths? Also check. Jul 10, 2016
  • @SJWsnoke I actually like female characters to have some depth and originality to them. I like them to be compelling in their own right. Jul 10, 2016
  • @SJWsnoke Their ideal female character is someone like Rey from SW. A forgettable 2D cardboard standup with no flaws or traits whatsoever. Jul 10, 2016
  • @SJWsnoke They equate traditional women's empowerment - leadership, strength, capacity for violence - with a "patriarchal framework". Jul 10, 2016
  • @SJWsnoke If they are too girly or too manly, if they cry at the drop of a hat or if they are stoic and emotionless, it's all "sexist". Jul 10, 2016
  • @SJWsnoke Read Anita Sarkeesian's thesis. It becomes quite clear after a couple dozen pages that there is literally no pleasing her. Jul 10, 2016
  • @GaryAStott @BlackIceSheep We're not asking for the SJ-based criticism to stop. We're challenging it with counter-arguments. Difference. Jul 09, 2016
  • @GaryAStott SJWs are illiberal people who go around dismissing things they find offensive. Not all feminists are SJWs. Jul 09, 2016
  • @SJWsnoke I specifically look for and play games with female protagonists in them. SJWs hate deep/flawed female characters. Galbrush, etc. Jun 27, 2016
  • @natashavc @derktornork I've been saying for years and years that feminism needs less talk, more action. For this, I was called a sexist. Jun 17, 2016
  • @Bitehattori @shoe0nhead DRINK. FECK. ARSE. GIRLS. Mar 28, 2016
  • @LukePlunkett Remember when the thumbnails at the bottom of articles from most outlets actually led to other articles? I miss that. Mar 07, 2016
  • @shanley Humans in general are gross. Ever hear of Unit 731, or the Tuskegee Experiment? Ever wonder where to buy tickets off this planet? Feb 26, 2016
  • RT @LazaroNyalandu: RIP Capt Roger. You loved our country and I knew you on many flights we took together in defence of our wildlife herita… Jan 31, 2016
  • @RockstarGames I only have one question. Soft-body physics on clothes and hair in multiplayer. Is the hardware still too weak to do it? Oct 29, 2014
  • RT @TyZonPhazon: @tslard At this time, I'm still working on this album. Once I've finished, the songs should be uploaded to a site for d ... Apr 30, 2010
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  • @Spizarelli I was actually on Kotaku this morning when they gave out 25 codes. If only I had kept checking their front page. Apr 30, 2010
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MATHS MATHS MATHS MATHS MATHS

FUCK I LOVE MATPLOTLIB AND MATLAB

Huh. You know, that's interesting.

I don't disagree with you. I actually see your point. If he just kept adjusting his function to account for changes in the variance in the data, then wasn't he basically trying to mislead everyone?

And, for that matter, if that shit Barron's dragged up is just bullshit, then why did they publish it? Don't they care about their reputation? What the hell is up with that? Is it all just propaganda? Was I completely misled?

Dude, I think you're onto something, here. I think you better call Melody Goodman and figure out what she was smoking when she came up with that R-squared of 0.99. Come on, let's get this cage match going. I'd pay good money to see that:


God. Half of these news articles about this thing are just pure clickbait bullshit.

Anyway, what I'm trying to do here is far more of a workload than one person can reasonably handle on their own. You'd need a whole team to unravel this thing.

I was discussing all this with my own doctor this morning, and he said I needed a break, that I'd already taken on too much work, that I'd been losing sleep, that my cortisol levels were too high, et cetera, et cetera.

However, I didn't want to just wallow in defeat. I wanted to keep going. See where I ended up. Hopefully not in a nut ward.

This.... is like teaching Chinese postgrads, and whoever handles induction for freshmen at your college should be assblasted for failing to insist on a mandatory course on citations and academic writing. That’s their fault, not yours. I will lead you through the basics and then you can Google-fu yourself a few basic guides from other colleges to keep as a reference.

It is setting students up to fail to assume that they all know how to write an academic paper, and it annoys me when institutions take your money and don’t give you the skills you need to succeed.

The first thing every academic paper has is a thesis. Yes, even your first year essays. If you approach your work from the beginning of your academic career correctly, the skills will quickly become second nature. All a thesis is, really, is a sentence or two outlining the proposition that your paper intends to prove (or disprove, but the negative thesis is best avoided in humanities if you can).

You then arrange about three to five main strands of argument that will support your thesis. You will discuss each of these in a seperate sub heading, or chapter. It isnt that important how you divide them, but as your reader I should be able to easily distinguish one argument from another. As you discuss each one, you should also pick up the major arguments against it, the major known issues with the analysis, and any areas of doubt/lack of info, and deal with each one. You aim to rebut any material that says “your argument is wrong”, and you aim to illustrate what information is missing and how it may be gathered in response to material that says “you just don’t have enough evidence to support this argument”.

If there seems to be a shitload of material that says you are wrong or that there’s no information to support your argument and you are just pulling it out of your ass, this is a strong signal to sit down, go back carefully through all the material you have, and reconsider your assumptions and the conclusions you’ve drawn from those. It’s absolutely fine to be wrong. But if you submit wrong stuff to me, I have to mark you accordingly. It’s fine to take a couple of hours to recheck your thinking.

Now, in order to support each of your arguments, you need academic work. (In medical sciences, you will need data unless you’re doing a Cochrane review. I haven’t written a science paper since high school, so I will leave it to the better educated than me in this thread to talk you through data handling skills.) You need what a much missed professor of mine used to call in fruity tones “ssscholarly aaaaarticles”. Some sources, as we all remember from our first ever history lesson at school, are better than others. This is because they are written by people who are more authoritative in the field; they were published in a leading journal that has stricter peer review standards; the authors don’t have obvious or declared notable conflicts of interest; the paper emits from academics appointed to a prestigious institution. These on their own are not infallible and none on their own will be enough. It is however true to say that the better ‘score’ an article gets by these metrics, the less complete bullshit it is likely to be compared to the work of I.M. Clown self published on his Wordpress site.

More and more journals are going open source or digitising. This is marvellous because it’s a real pain in the ass to go to the library, and your friends will distract you if they show up there too. But I will check your sources when I mark your work. I will without fail check any source I am not already academically familiar with, and if it smells like shit, I will feed back that the source was not compelling enough to support your argument. This is not “academik boolying“, this is my actual job. Not all sources are equally good. Quite a lot of shit gets vanity published, and a thing you need to know is which journals are the vanity journals in your field, and avoid ever relying on them. (Also don‘t submit your work to them for publication, it makes you look like a spastic who couldn‘t get published anywhere else).

You should refer to specific parts of the sources that support your argument. Don’t just throw a footnote in or say “As Chandler argues, blah blah blah”. Because then I will go and read Chandler like a Pharisee to see if they supoort your argument, and if they don’t I will be pissed at your laziness and your attempt to smokescreen me with a source that doesn’t support your argument, and I will take my feelings out on your grade. In fact I am required to ding you for that shit.

Once you have written all this shit up, you have to write a conclusion about whether or not the stuff you just wrote supports your thesis. If it doesn’t you better have a damn good reason why and be able to analyse why not.

The last thing you write is your introduction, because that tells me what you are you going to tell me in the rest of the paper, so it’s easiest to write this last because by then, you know what’s actually in the paper.

So, in recap, the first thing you need in your corona epic is a thesis. I think from all I have read of your train of thought, the thesis you are trying to prove is that coof is a neurotrophic virus. So focus on that and sources that prove that, and the individual strands of argument that will support that. Don’t fire hose links and tweets (you have to be ultra careful using fucking tweets as a source, okay?) without explaining how they supoort your thesis. Don’t get sidetracked.

You are familiar with popular science books. Try and aim for that informational but readily digestible tone in your writing.

Good luck with reworking your document. I’m interested to see the finished product.

I... dear god, you're right.

My "thesis" is junk. I didn't actually make an argument. I just firehosed papers with little to support it and without inline citations. I need to go back to the drawing board and cull it down to just the important bits.

I've never actually written a term paper or a research paper in my life. I've never been to college. I don't have access to any college portals or anything like that, so any research I do gather would basically have to be from open journals (paywall removers, maybe?). I suppose I was trying to do something I'm not particularly qualified to do.

There is something dreadfully wrong with the picture I've assembled of this virus. It's a scattershot mess that relies on scant data. Lots of papers with positive hits, but the sample sizes aren't particularly large, and the data on the prevalence of each individual complication is lacking.

Many of the complications associated with COVID-19 can also occur with influenza, but they seem more common and more severe with this virus. Basically, what I'm trying to prove is that COVID-19 can cause a sort of widespread vascular syndrome that affects all the vital organs, in addition to a neurological syndrome that causes encephalitis and/or medullary dysfunction. The virus could be entering the bloodstream, causing systemic viremia, and then, from there, it may attempt to infiltrate many of the other highly-vascularized organs, such as the brain, lungs, kidneys, et cetera. It could even be attacking the blood-brain barrier directly, given the presence of ACE2 receptors in those tissues. Meanwhile, it also seems to be able to enter the nerves and infect them. There are a number of papers that point to this.

This conflicts with the mainstream account of the virus as, essentially, a respiratory disease first and foremost. Again, some doctors are very confused by the silent hypoxemia caused by this thing. It behaves less like a respiratory disease and more like a blood disease.



But there needs to be ample proof. "Seems" and "maybe" and "perhaps" aren't good enough. I'm in a disadvantaged position, here. I have no access to confidential information, nor do I have any direct access to any laboratories working with the pathogen or with tissue samples. Frankly, anyone who's handling that stuff has brass balls that clack together and shoot lightning out their ass. If someone offered me a vial of live SARS-CoV-2, it doesn't matter how much gear I'm wearing or if it's under a fume hood or whatever. I would run screaming in the opposite direction.

It was mostly desperation and germaphobia and a desire to protect people close to me that drove me to this point to begin with, otherwise, I wouldn't have given much of a damn.

However, at some point, I must confess that I developed a very real fascination with the topic. I mean, enough to buy $500 in biology and virology textbooks, anyway. I had very little knowledge of viruses about 2 months ago. All I knew was that, y'know, they went into your cells and did bad stuff and replicated a whole lot.

However, I started catching on quickly. Viruses use entry receptors for endocytosis. Those receptors are found on the outside of human and animal cells. They often perform normal biological functions like hormone regulation and chemical signaling. You know, just like the "fun" receptors, like dopamine receptors and opioid receptors and whatnot. The virus can block them in the process of using them, almost like a receptor-blocking drug. Once it gets inside a cell, it breaks down, releases its payload, and then, the process of transcription begins, essentially like sending a set of tool paths to a CNC mill, ordering the cell to produce more virions. The viral particles thus produced can undergo exocytosis and leave gently, or they can pull a chestburster and cause the cell to lyse violently like a Flood Carrier Form from Halo going poof and releasing a bunch of infection forms.

The thing about SARS-CoV-2 is that it has furin cleavage sites on the spike glycoproteins that SARS-CoV lacks, because of its slightly different genetics. Furin is a protein that reaches out and cuts other proteins to activate them. You can think of a cleavage site on a coronavirus spike protein as almost being like a perfect video game ledge for a grappling hook (the Furin) to latch onto. It tricks your own furin into cleaving it and activating it.


This makes it highly infectious because it allows for HIV-like high-efficiency cell-to-cell fusion, and it's why that one scientist in that one retracted paper said "Hey, this spike looks like HIV gp120". It's not actually gp120, by the way. Just a lookalike.

Spike proteins on coronaviruses are trimeric and look like a great big caveman club, or a cartoon chicken drumstick. The end that sticks into the lipid membrane is tiny. The exposed end is huge and studded with glycosylation sites.


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Anyway, what I hypothesized is that this may make the virus more active and invasive in the human body than SARS-CoV was. As in, what I suspected was that the spike of SARS-CoV-2 is essentially more bioactive than the spike of SARS-CoV, resulting in deeper infiltration of the tissues of individual virions (one wonders at how this thing could be less lethal than SARS, if that were the case). In other words, rather than thinking of this solely as enhanced human-to-human transmission, we might also think of it as enhanced cell-to-cell transmission inside the body, which might explain the possible neurotropism.

There are admittedly things about all this that I don't understand. The finding of possible heme metabolism interruption is bizarre. They didn't actually examine the virus doing this in vitro or in vivo or anything. They found the relationship with a computer model, it seems. This came completely out of left field for me.


The novel coronavirus pneumonia (COVID-19) is an infectious acute respiratory infection caused by the novel coronavirus. The virus is a positive-strand RNA virus with high homology to bat coronavirus. In this study, conserved domain analysis, homology modeling, and molecular docking were used to compare the biological roles of certain proteins of the novel coronavirus. The results showed the ORF8 and surface glycoprotein could bind to the porphyrin, respectively. At the same time, orf1ab, ORF10, and ORF3a proteins could coordinate attack the heme on the 1-beta chain of hemoglobin to dissociate the iron to form the porphyrin. The attack will cause less and less hemoglobin that can carry oxygen and carbon dioxide. The lung cells have extremely intense poisoning and inflammatory due to the inability to exchange carbon dioxide and oxygen frequently, which eventually results in ground-glass-like lung images. The mechanism also interfered with the normal heme anabolic pathway of the human body, is expected to result in human disease. According to the validation analysis of these finds, chloroquine could prevent orf1ab, ORF3a, and ORF10 to attack the heme to form the porphyrin, and inhibit the binding of ORF8 and surface glycoproteins to porphyrins to a certain extent, effectively relieve the symptoms of respiratory distress. Since the ability of chloroquine to inhibit structural proteins is not particularly obvious, the therapeutic effect on different people may be different. Favipiravir could inhibit the envelope protein and ORF7a protein bind to porphyrin, prevent the virus from entering host cells, and catching free porphyrins. This paper is only for academic discussion, the correctness needs to be confirmed by other laboratories. Due to the side effects and allergic reactions of drugs such as chloroquine, please consult a qualified doctor for treatment details, and do not take the medicine yourself.

What they're trying to say is that the ORF8 and the spike of the virus can potentially bind porphyrin, leaving it unavailable for hemoglobin production. Okay. That sounds to me like they're proposing this thing can cause a form of anemia. Where are the blood labs showing anemia in COVID-19 patients? Where is the proof? So patients have been consistently found with elevated ferritin. So what? Did they look at the RBCs to see if they really were dysfunctional or not? Did they confirm it?


I just found another very interesting preliminary document:


In it, they claim that splenic shrinkage in autopsies of COVID-19 victims indicates erythrocyte depletion. Okay. Where are the peer-reviewed papers showing this?

I can't just keep shadow-boxing with myself on this. I'm trying to make a point, and that point is that the mainstream focus on the respiratory manifestations of this disease is wrong. Dead wrong. I don't think the lungs are even the primary site of infection. I'm starting to think the blood vessels and bloodstream are.

If you're looking for some form of pneumonia with this thing, you're basically looking for pneumonia that is secondary to viremia, porphyria, vasculitis, and/or encephalitis before the disease infiltrates the vital organs, like the heart, lungs, and kidneys. My new theory is that this virus causes sepsis in the blood and damage to blood vessels above all else, and from there, it enters the organs, causing inflammation and cytokine release syndrome while simultaneously promoting clot formation and infiltrating nervous tissue. The multi-organ manifestations are a simple consequence of the fact that this virus touches the blood and the nerves first, and from there, it spreads to every corner of the body with ACE2 receptors and infects those tissues. The pneumonia, the renal tubular damage, and the cardiomyopathy are all because the viremia touches every one of those organs by entering them through the bloodstream, while also causing sepsis, bacterial co-infections, and cytokine release syndrome.

Recently, we've been hearing that this thing has killed a lot of African-Americans in Chicago. A proportionately huge number, actually. 30% of the population, but 70% of the deaths. Why is that? Well, black people have higher rates of hypertension. It's just a fact.


Hypertension primes the body for COVID-19 infection. The body undergoes polymorphic changes in genetic expression that result in higher populations of ACE2 receptors on the outside of cells. Why is this? Well, it's simple. ACE2 converts Ang II to Ang 1-7, and it balances out the high blood pressure by converting a vasopressor hormone to the opposite, a vasodilator.


This is why people with comorbidities like obesity, diabetes, hypertension, and so forth, are dying in droves. It's not because their conditions have weakened their bodies. It's because their conditions have primed their bodies for the virus with polymorphic changes.

The human body is very plastic and adaptable. See this Chubbyemu vid, for instance:


This guy drank 50 beers a day as his only "nutrition" and had chronically low sodium as a result. His brain tissue actually underwent polymorphic changes to compensate for the electrolytic imbalance, so when they treated it with sodium, whoops, now he's fucked because his body's received a jolt of sodium it wasn't expecting.

High blood pressure and diabetes and all these other conditions do something similar with the RAAS. Over the long-term, they cause changes to the body. Namely, they promote more ACE2 proliferation.


There's something that ties this all together. Something.

What am I missing, here? What an infuriating puzzle.

This is an extremely complicated pathology. This ain't your grandma's flu. This is something completely different.

I'm going to do something I've never done in my life. I am going to attempt to write an actual paper. And I'm going to have Kiwi Farms review it.

Heh, the random.txts are writing themselves.

I need to go do some more research. And a whole lot more writing. This is going to take a while.

I see the truth, now. The shit I've put out so far is basically trash. Useless. Sure, a scientist might find it handy to have all those papers in one place, but no one else will be able to make use of it.

Let's see if I can come up with something that meets a more rigorous standard.

Honestly after the full on career ending demolition you got by @AltisticRight and the fact you're silently fuming and reading this thread based on activity, you should just lick your doorknobs dude.

He pushed my shit in so hard, those doorknobs are actually looking pretty tasty right now, I must confess.

Bravo for the post on technical writing, @Fareal! You pretty much nailed it, but I want to add a few things:


@Drain Todger has never gone to college, and has at best a high-school education (depending on whether he actually learned anything useful from his uneducated cultist parents when they were half-assedly homeschooling him).

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Here's a pretty useful resource for everyone that doesn't have university access to journal subscriptions for research articles (i.e. present for you, @Drain Todger!). Works pretty well for many articles that are otherwise paywalled, but of course some newer papers might not be immediately available if they haven't ripped them yet:

I think I posted this one too earlier, but I'll post it again. Pretty much everyone I knew at university used this, because fuck spending $200+ on a textbook.


This will actually come in handy. Thank you.

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Yes, I'm writing a paper right now. It's at 995 words (including the 207-word abstract) and 22 citations so far.

One of the PhDs I was in touch with on Discord, an immunologist who uses the handle WesternBlotter, recommended I use Zotero to manage the papers and the cites, which makes everything a whole lot easier. I'm going to draft a rough outline, and then, I'm going to go back over it in detail a couple times to see if there was anything I missed. I also need to go around and basically just keep gathering papers, like as many of the relevant ones as I can, digging through the various publisher portals and stuff. Some publishers are making their COVID-19-related stuff free right now, which is nice.

Rather than just tossing crap out there, I'm going to be very careful with this thing. The goal is to show how COVID-19 relates both to SARS and autoimmune disorders, which organs it affects, and what mechanisms it uses. I'm probably going to have well over 100 papers cited by the time this thing is done.
 
Days of lurking and you think you can just autistically come back in.

lol.

The problem was never the methodology it was just a fun side.
This isn't osmosis Cloppino you won't magically absorb knowledge, at least go to fucking college.
I mean we certainly didn't add some false information in all our shit just as an in joke between people in academia as a signal you're a fucking peasant.

Also I assume no one found this tidbit, don't ever let David tell you he's doing this to be altruistic, he wants to be doomer right, not to help.
 
The problem was never the methodology it was just a fun side.
This isn't osmosis Cloppino you won't magically absorb knowledge, at least go to fucking college.
I mean we certainly didn't add some false information in all our shit just as an in joke between people in academia as a signal you're a fucking peasant.

I'm not impressed by elitism, shibboleths, or ivory towers.

Either help me, or stay out of my way.
 
Or, get the fuck out.

You really think regrowing your dick after chopping it off is ALSO a unique and totally SPECIAL strat that nobody has seen before?

Bitch boy you are in the clown library, don't forget it.

What I'm writing is a review, of sorts. What it needs is an abstract at the beginning and a bibliography at the end. Simple. How hard could it be?
 
What I'm writing is a review, of sorts. What it needs is an abstract at the beginning and a bibliography at the end. Simple. How hard could it be?
:story: Are you aware that some of us actually earned degrees in relevant or adjacent subjects and what you're saying here is pretty fuckin disrespectful in addition to being incredibly stupid? (I've deliberately not argued medical issues with you, and instead kicked the autistic, for the same reason that I kind of think that making medical articles available to deranged autistic meta-hypochondriacs such as yourselves was a big mistake. Plus, your shit is deadly to read.)
 
In my analysis of this whole subject, the largest problem is that most people are trying to utilize a SIR model of understanding; With actually the predicate basis of the derived R0 being from the official CDC/WHO stats that where complied earlier on. We all can realize that the early China numbers are still vague, and their real handling is questionable. Though again there are probably kernels of truth beneath the surface, either way the hysteria around the transmittable nature of this disease freaks people out. I guess it's a whole proponent of trying to illustrate that differential lag is difficult to justify, without having a set R-factor, that essentially shocks all of the data points because the true transmittable nature cannot be understood without ie) antibody tests widely distributed. Therefore their current models have failed, and if any indication from the early Wuhan analysis is understood to be true; Then New York is our perfect case study on how to handle it in the rest of the country. On top of that the SIR model only is based on the assumption of a defined R(t), which unfortunately that differential is very poorly defined. Seeing guys like Thunderf00t for instance trying to collaborate a model in excel to try to justify his model is pretty ridiculous to me, considering the c00f has been around longer than January from more anecdotes I've read over the last couple of weeks. Of course a good researcher never basis his model on anecdotal data, but the way testing was conducted before middle of March I find to have been very unreliable.

Recovery rates unfortunately lag infection rates by great factors of time, much greater magnitudes than any influenza virus we have seen before. I think our current understanding of trying to model COVID as an influenza type model is probably our basis for error to begin with, because of the lag time being so varied among people. This is the consequence of models, it's very difficult outside of a controlled setting to actually make a model, with out the various woo in the mathematical paradigm. At least we are now starting to have some studies come out in the West, if anyone has any to cite, I would be interesting in pursuing through it in adjusting my own model. I like @AltisticRight modelling methodologies, I am not much of a statistician myself, but the perspective you have illustrated in your data is a lot more coherent.

Clopping pony lover on the other hand isn't focusing on actually contriving data, rather than basing his thesis on already speculated data. A good researcher cites sources, but in order to have solid data you need to have data that can be replicated. If you lack this, then your model fails, and your hypothesis automatically comes to being inconclusive. Give me some formulas and some actual math and I'll take your assertion a bit more serious, and even if you want to toss some simple numbers out there it's fine. Though if you are going to try to do a binomial expansion that has no fucking coherence, then I have no use for your numbers, and it's good as junk data to me. IF you are going to produce some equations, please use proper notion. Maybe @Drain Todger instead of writing essays that go no where, give me some numbers, and then we'll see how much of a real DOOMER sperg you really are.
 
Are you aware that some of us actually earned degrees in adjacent or relevant subjects and what you're saying here is pretty fuckin disrespectful? (I've deliberately not argued medical issues with you for the same reason that I kind of think that making medical articles available to deranged autistic hypochondriacs such as yourselves was a big mistake.)

I showed my work, in numerous places. The proof of my understanding of this topic is contained in literally everything I've written about it. I received endorsements from PhD biologists, immunologists, et al., and I also asked them to review my work and make sure I was on the right track. I did not push experts aside. I deferred to experts.

Everyone with a biology-related degree that I've passed my information to has reacted with something along the lines of, "Wow, this is amazing, thank you!"

Everyone with a non-biology-related degree that I've passed my information to has reacted like, "You're not a doctor or an expert, how dare you?!"

So, yeah. There's a substantial disparity there, in that actual experts in the topic in question have lauded my work.

I completed a basic draft of my review of the papers, by the way. It ended up being shorter than I thought it would be. A couple pages, but a good 51 citations.

Here it is. The first draft of my “thesis”. 🤣


Huh, well. That’s interesting. COVID-19 pathology is basically a dead ringer for SARS, with a couple exceptions.

Now, why aren’t more studies examining the possibility of systemic vasculitis? That one passage that @Spedestrian quoted was not a specific finding of vasculitis independent of lung parenchymal damage; it was secondary to it.

In other words, they noted that the lung tissue was damaged and the blood vessels inside happened to be damaged as well. They didn’t actually go “Hey, this is vasculitis. Where else is the vasculitis?”

Systemic vasculitis can cause hypoxemia, dry cough, and pneumonia. I drew a comparison with polymyalgia rheumatica, an autoimmune disorder which produces very SARS-like symptoms.

In short, there needs to be more examination of blood and blood vessels with this thing. Way more.

In my analysis of this whole subject, the largest problem is that most people are trying to utilize a SIR model of understanding; With actually the predicate basis of the derived R0 being from the official CDC/WHO stats that where complied earlier on. We all can realize that the early China numbers are still vague, and their real handling is questionable. Though again there are probably kernels of truth beneath the surface, either way the hysteria around the transmittable nature of this disease freaks people out. I guess it's a whole proponent of trying to illustrate that differential lag is difficult to justify, without having a set R-factor, that essentially shocks all of the data points because the true transmittable nature cannot be understood without ie) antibody tests widely distributed. Therefore their current models have failed, and if any indication from the early Wuhan analysis is understood to be true; Then New York is our perfect case study on how to handle it in the rest of the country. On top of that the SIR model only is based on the assumption of a defined R(t), which unfortunately that differential is very poorly defined. Seeing guys like Thunderf00t for instance trying to collaborate a model in excel to try to justify his model is pretty ridiculous to me, considering the c00f has been around longer than January from more anecdotes I've read over the last couple of weeks. Of course a good researcher never basis his model on anecdotal data, but the way testing was conducted before middle of March I find to have been very unreliable.

Recovery rates unfortunately lag infection rates by great factors of time, much greater magnitudes than any influenza virus we have seen before. I think our current understanding of trying to model COVID as an influenza type model is probably our basis for error to begin with, because of the lag time being so varied among people. This is the consequence of models, it's very difficult outside of a controlled setting to actually make a model, with out the various woo in the mathematical paradigm. At least we are now starting to have some studies come out in the West, if anyone has any to cite, I would be interesting in pursuing through it in adjusting my own model. I like @AltisticRight modelling methodologies, I am not much of a statistician myself, but the perspective you have illustrated in your data is a lot more coherent.

Clopping pony lover on the other hand isn't focusing on actually contriving data, rather than basing his thesis on already speculated data. A good researcher cites sources, but in order to have solid data you need to have data that can be replicated. If you lack this, then your model fails, and your hypothesis automatically comes to being inconclusive. Give me some formulas and some actual math and I'll take your assertion a bit more serious, and even if you want to toss some simple numbers out there it's fine. Though if you are going to try to do a binomial expansion that has no fucking coherence, then I have no use for your numbers, and it's good as junk data to me. IF you are going to produce some equations, please use proper notion. Maybe @Drain Todger instead of writing essays that go no where, give me some numbers, and then we'll see how much of a real DOOMER sperg you really are.

There’s an article I think you should see. They already ran the numbers.


The delay-adjusted mortality of this thing is basically the same as SARS. It starts off at about 5 to 7 percent and skyrockets to 20% if hospitals get overwhelmed.

This means that of the 425,000 cases in the US, 20k to 80k will probably die.

The time lag between infection and death is, indeed, massive. This makes it difficult to estimate anything like a final mortality rate. All I know is that this thing is way, way deadlier than the flu, by far.
 
Your work amounts to tabloid journal citations.

Congratulations on spending what amounts to years on "your life's work" that amounts to glorified used toilet paper with doodles on it.

Is that why there was a TP shortage? Needed more doodling canvas for your "research?" Or did you panic that your cavernous ass couldn't handle the bullshit coming out of you, because it's coming out the wrong orifice.
 
I showed my work, in numerous places. The proof of my understanding of this topic is contained in literally everything I've written about it. I received endorsements from PhD biologists, immunologists, et al., and I also asked them to review my work and make sure I was on the right track. I did not push experts aside. I deferred to experts.

You do understand that people humoring you and saying your work was good for a layman doesn't qualify you to preach doom, right?
 
Your work amounts to tabloid journal citations.

Congratulations on spending what amounts to years on "your life's work" that amounts to glorified used toilet paper with doodles on it.

Is that why there was a TP shortage? Needed more doodling canvas for your "research?" Or did you panic that your cavernous ass couldn't handle the bullshit coming out of you, because it's coming out the wrong orifice.

The vast majority of those are peer-reviewed, and the ones that aren’t are explicitly described as such, with a note that more research is needed.

I showed my work, and I cited my sources. What you're engaging in is essentially a refutation without the substance of a refutation.


Argumentum ad lapidem (English: "appeal to the stone") is a logical fallacy that consists in dismissing a statement as absurd, invalid, or incorrect, without giving proof of its absurdity.[1][2][3]

Ad lapidem statements are fallacious because they fail to address the merits of the claim in dispute. The same applies to proof by assertion, where an unproved or disproved claim is asserted as true on no ground other than that of its truth having been asserted.


Bulverism is a logical fallacy. The method of Bulverism is to "assume that your opponent is wrong, and explain his error." The Bulverist assumes a speaker's argument is invalid or false and then explains why the speaker came to make that mistake, attacking the speaker or the speaker's motive. The term Bulverism was coined by C. S. Lewis[1] to poke fun at a very serious error in thinking that, he alleges, recurs often in a variety of religious, political, and philosophical debates.

Similar to Antony Flew's "subject/motive shift", Bulverism is a fallacy of irrelevance. One accuses an argument of being wrong on the basis of the arguer's identity or motive, but these are strictly speaking irrelevant to the argument's validity or truth.

If you just say "That's absurd, you're absurd" every time someone satisfies the burden of proof, you're not actually arguing anything.

You do understand that people humoring you and saying your work was good for a layman doesn't qualify you to preach doom, right?

I'm not the one preaching doom. I am just repeating what I've seen elswhere.





Take Neil Ferguson's model of the pandemic, for instance. His model indicated that if nothing was done in the US, at least 2.2 million people would die of COVID-19. These figures were roundly attacked from all quarters. People on 4chan said Neil Ferguson was a "doomer", completely ignoring his actual credentials as an epidemiologist who uses AI to make predictions. When he revised his figures downward to account for the social distancing, the media said he "walked back" his estimates:







The reality is that he didn't actually "walk back" a single thing. He revised his prediction to account for the fact that everyone and their grandmother was staying indoors. If we all go back to business as usual, his original prediction still holds true.

China just sent people back to work in mid-March. Because of the long incubation time and the lag effects, it takes about 6 to 8 weeks before this virus actually forms a noticeable outbreak in an area that it's been introduced to. It's going to be about 2 to 4 weeks before they start isolating everyone again.

We're trapped. We're literally trapped in our houses with this virus out there.
 
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